7 Things I Wish Girls Knew About Masculine Men

[Anonymous]

Masculine Men want a battle to fight. Fighting for something he believes in is at the core of what it means to be a man. This can mean being a literal warrior. Most men, however, have a more metaphorical battle to fight. That battle can be anything from volunteering or missionary work, to building his own personal business, to climbing to the top of Mount Everest. This "battle to fight' is striving towards a goal that some deem as "impossible" or "not probable"

Masculine Men want an adventure to live. The adventure is about the thrill he gets from doing. It is about the adrenaline of the moment Some men find their adventure in driving fast cars, others in closing sales, still others in thrill-seeking activities like bungee-jumping or sky-diving. These are the stories he’ll tell his grandkids — or the ones he may want to skip until they’re old enough ;)

Masculine Men desire a beauty to pursue. Of course, a beauty to pursue is a woman. Every man wants a beautiful woman in his life, and for more than just sexual reasons. Wining the heart of a beautiful woman is a challenge that gives men some sense of "yeah I'm the man" and the thrill of the chase is very exciting. Now some men claim they hate to "chase" women and those who play hard-to-get are annoying. I'm not saying they like women who purposely run away from them and play mind-games, men like high-value women who are genuinely not an easy catch.

Masculine Men are just as emotional as women. He just doesn't have hormonal mood swings and doesn't display his emotions the same way. Sometime it's hard for a guy to figure out what exactly he is feeling and to put it into words. So don't be cruel or disrespectful thinking he's a guy "he can handle it."

Sexuality gives him a sense of love and validation. He wants to be a "magician" in the bedroom (or kitchen, or bathroom, or living-room or airplane restroom etc). His skill and your reaction to it can make him feel a sense of love, acceptance, and validation.

Respect is # 1 most important thing. If he doesn't feel like you respect his decision-making or opinions, he will feel unloved. It is really that simple.

Freedom is very important to him. He must feel free in your presence or he won't be happy. You let him feel free by not trying to change him or nag him; by just accepting him where he is at in his journey.

[loveisbeautiful]

First of all, (in own my personal opinion) I don't think there's any specific qualities that make one man more masculine then the other. A man is a man and unless he's running around in a tutu singing dancing queen by ABBA, I consider all men to be masculine. And, it bugs me a little bit that people try to make labels of what makes a man manly and what doesn't, I don't think that's right.

Second of all, most of what you listed is just general basic stuff that would apply to most men.

"Masculine Men want a battle to fight." what you basically described in that one is a man who has goals and wants to achieve them. That doesn't make him masculine guy wanting to fight a battle, it's just a guy in general who's determined and has goals.

"Masculine Men want an adventure to live." This doesn't make you masculine, it just makes a guy who's adventurous. Masculinity has nothing to do with it.

"Masculine Men desire a beauty to pursue. " You said it yourself that "every man wants a beautiful woman in his life". So, this just makes him a typical guy who wants to win the heart of the one he wants. That's just normal, has nothing to do with being masculine.

"Masculine Men are just as emotional as women" What you just described, is a typical normal guy who has feelings and doesn't know how show them to people. That's not masculinity, that's just about being a guy. But, I don't dispute that men are as emotional as women. They just have a harder time showing it.

"Sexuality gives him a sense of love and validation." Don't all guys want to be "magical" in the bedroom? So, wouldn't this just be a general guy thing and not a masculine thing?

"Respect is # 1 most important thing." Wanting respect isn't a masculine thing, it's a people thing. Aretha Franklin said it best "R. E. S. P. E. C. T. find out what it means to me"

"Freedom is very important to him. " Basically what you described is a guy who wants to be accepted and not nagged by the one he loves, I'm pretty sure all guys want that.

[Genie23]

VERY well said. +1

[loveisbeautiful]

@Genie23 Thanks.

[myTake Owner]

This is basically what an alpha male wants and not typically a beta male. I just said masculine man because some people don't understand these terms. I've studied under relationship coaches for a few years now and my take was a summary of what they teach.

[loveisbeautiful]

I see.

[jjmarvin]

You did not just describe guys as alpha and beta. Gross.

[Bysshe]

"This is basically what an alpha male wants and not typically a beta male."

Surely the difference is not in what they want, but in what they get.

[myTake Owner]

@Bysshe @jjmarvin you guys sound bitter

[Bysshe]

How is that bitter sounding? It just seems more likely that most (straight) men want more or less the same things, but obviously some are more successful than others.

I'm sure every male lion would desire his own pride, it's just only the alpha males manage to achieve that - it's not that the beta males have different goals, they're just less able to get what they want.

[jjmarvin]

Um what did i say that was bitter? I think you're grouping me in with other people. What i said wasn't bitter.

[hellionthesage]

Overall I would agree with this, however I would disagree with the thrill of the chase remark. I get what your saying and don't necessarily disagree but I think that phrase puts a certain idea into womens minds that they should play hard to get. I think its more about the woman valuing herself and the man (who values himself equally as she does herself) being willing to prove his worth. So, less cat and mouse stringing him along and more upfront about what each wants. She letting him know that she won't put out for just anybody but only for some one she trust and respects and he having enough self respect to know that he is those things and being willing to prove it. I'm sure it was just symantics but I just wanted to make sure that was what you where getting at. This is also why men do not like women who sleep around, she obviously doesn't value the guy she expects to treat her special if she never required it from others thus devaluing him. So I think thats important for women to realize as well. So yeah good take.

[myTake Owner]

Yes! That is what I mean. Bravo!

[Azara]

I dont see what any of this has to do with being a man.

Fighting for something one believes in is a very ethical position and a natural human development. Taking it further Women are more revolutionary than men. Fighting for. Cause fir the greater good, more often a space occupied by women. As apposed to fighting to " feel like something"or gain individual power.

Wanting to feel life coursing through your busy is certainly not limited to men. Boredom Is considered to be the most painful experience psychologically. This is why solitary confinement is considered the worst punishment. Everyone has different ways of feeling the thrill of life. Humans naturally want to feel " alive". Bc the opposite is death.

Everyone desires going after things they find desirable or are drawn to. Some orople do it others are too shy or overwhelmed. But this is not a " man" tendency.

As a human being we all have emotional depth. Men are not exempt from hormonal shifts. Men have daily hormonsl shifts women have weekly.

Wanting to feel powerfully sexually skilled is something humans brings feel if they are into sex. Women dint go around thinking I hope I really suck in bed I feel great when my partner is bored or disappointed.

Respect us absolutely fundamentally a human requirement fir any functional relationship. Non romantic included. Without resiect a person is degraded demeaned treated as subhuman and feels like shit. There is no way Men own the corner on resiect no matter how much complaining they do about it. And a lot of guys confuse bring respected with having license to control other people.

Human beings if all sex have historically fought for their freedom and the freedom of their orople above all other consideration. Freedom is intrinsic to being a human being its not a Toy men pull out to feel like men. The opposite of freedom is slavery. Ska very is a subhuman existence. No human desires life beneath bring human.

It's interesting you're complaining that women don't get this about a ' special variety of men" when by writing this in defense of these elite men, assuming this pertains to " men" you've clearly don't get the very things you're talking about apply to human beings.

Of course it may not be a matter of misunderstanding, it could be willfulness.,.. I have noticed time and again that it is tempting for men to attribute human qualities only to themselves, but that's not actually how the world works.

[myTake Owner]

This is not strictly male desires. Read my titles. A lot of women don't understand men feel this way. This was just a broad description of what professional relationship coaches (who I have studied uner for a few years now) teach.

[pnl86]

I just want to echo what @Bandit74 said:

"men like high-value women who are genuinely not an easy catch."

I'm going to take the position that this statement doesn't make sense, as much as women continue to want to insist that it does.

If a man is "low value" and the woman is genuinely "high value," then that's a "trade" or "exchange" of value that should never happen. In other words, it's like trying to get the new iPhone 6S for $25. The woman is the iPhone 6S in this analogy, and the man is the $25. There's simply a severe disparity in value, and this trade will not happen - period. There is no, "the $25 will just have to work really hard to win over the iPhone 6S." No. It doesn't work that way. The iPhone 6S can command much greater value in exchange for what value she has to offer.

If a man is "high value" and a woman is "high value," then that's a trade or exchange that should happen. In other words, it's like the iPhone 6S initially asking for $2,500 to be sold (i. e., from buyers in the marketplace), but willing to accept $1,200 (which is okay, because that's its true fair market value). Now, if $1,200 walks along and says, "Hey, I'm $1,200, and I would like to exchange my value for yours," what is the "seller" going to do? Bargaining aside, what is the end result of that transaction? Sale or no sale? Sale!

So, when women say that "high value men like to chance" (other than that simply being an emotionally manipulative statement to get men to think, "Ah! If I like the chase, that means I'm a high value man... herf derf"), they're not looking at reality objectively, they're just trying to create a self-serving rule (yet again) because it's emotionally uncomfortable to outright say, "I'm a woman, and I love it and enjoy the feeling of attention a man gives me, and how it makes me feel to be chased and desired by a man, and validated that I'm attractive and worth it."

So, no, "high value" men don't enjoy the chase. They very much appreciate a woman who recognizes him for who he is, and acknowledges his high value (the same way he acknowledges her high value). When value is acknowledged, there is no reason for the chase, (other than to make the girl feel better about herself).

Otherwise, what "the chase" communicates to men, especially high value men, is that the girl thinks the guy is a "low value" guy. And because no man wants to endure that feeling, he abandons the situation that causes him to feel that way, especially if he's high value.

[myTake Owner]

I said "pursue" not "chase." Those are two different concepts.

[Bandit74]

I don't think whether or not a guy likes the chase has anything to do with his value. It's just if you have to wait for sex and date her for a month, the value in that is that you hope it's something special that only a select group of people have gotten.

However if you wait a month for sex and then find out that half a dozen guys got in on the first date with little to no effort, then that special feeling is gone. If anything, you'd feel pathetic. You waited and worked to get something other people got easily with no effort.

As far as high value guys and lower value girls never "trading", I disagree. Well it depends what you mean by "high value" in regards to looks and status, guys are often willing to lower their standards have sex with girls below "his legaue" as long as it's no strings attached.

[Bandit74]

For girls it's the reverse, they actually have higher standards for the guys they hookup with than they do for the guys they want a relationship with.

When guys hook up they are often LOWERING their standards. It's sort of like a trade, the guy gets easy sex without commitment but it's with a girl who he's not extremely attracted to.

The girl is doing a different trade, she's giving a guy sex without expecting any sort of commitment and in exchange she's getting sex from a more attractive guy who would have never slept with her if he was expected to make a commitment first.

So for a guy if a girl has hooked up with other guy but makes you wait, she's essentially saying...
you're not as attractive or high value as the guys I sleep with right away, but if you chase me for a month or two, then I'll give you a chance.

[myTake Owner]

@Bandit74 Guys I'm not even talking about sex!

[pnl86]

Yeah, I wasn't talking about sex either; I was just talking about the clear communication and conveyance of "interest" in the other person. I'm clearly interested in you, you're clearly interested in me - I acknowledge you're a high value male, you acknowledge I'm a high value female... now let's begin this relationship.

[myTake Owner]

@pnl86 I agree. I'm just saying the woman shouldn't be always available to answer his beckoning call or whims. She should have her own life.

[pnl86]

O. o

What does one have to do with the other?

[myTake Owner]

@Bandit74 That's what I meant by a man pursing. He takes the initiate and she responds. But she doesn't do things like drop all of her plans to go out with him. She just reschedules. She has a life outside of him.

[Bandit74]

I'm just talking specifically about the concept of a girl being hard to get

[pnl86]

The danger with a statement of "having her own life" and "not dropping plans to do XYZ," is that it's a very easy excuse and shield to hide behind... in what's really just a game of playing hard-to-get. In other words, there's a fine line.

Obviously, everyone has their own life. They don't have to be on a Celebrity A-list to "have their own life." Maybe they have a large group of friends. Maybe that have just one good friend. Maybe they like going out. Maybe they like staying in and reading or whatever. That's their life.

When you meet someone who you acknowledge is "high value," and there's an "opportunity" to get to spend time with them for the first time or early stages of dating, you have a choice to make: (a) regular day-to-day activities, or (b) spending time with this person?

By picking (a), unless (a) is like REALLY important, what you're communicating is that (a) is MORE IMPORTANT than (b) ... or, that (b) is NOT AS IMPORTANT as (a)

[pnl86]

That's the very essence of "playing hard to get."

I settle law suits every week. This game gets old. If you want to settle, then don't roll your eyes at me and pretend you're not interested which way things go or like you're doing me some favor. We're both doing each other a favor. Otherwise, if that's really how you feel, then fuck you too and we'll see each other at trial.

Both men and women want to be "respected," and part of that respect is "acknowledging" the other person's value.

So, when a girl does or says something like, "Well, I have my own life too. I mean, I have to spend time with my cat. And then I was going to go to the mall with Sally. Then I wanted to go see that movie. So, my schedule is all blocked off. But, ugh, I guess after my Zumba class next month, I can maybe squeeze in an hour for us to have a quick coffee together," she can stay single - seriously.

[myTake Owner]

@Bandit74 Again, girls know what I'm talking about. Say she had plans to go out with her girl friends but a guy of interest asks her out at the same time. A high-value woman will tell him she already has plans, give him the next times she's available, and ask when works for him. She won't just bail on her friends to be with him.

[Bandit74]

Why do you keep mentioning me?

I'm not the one who posted the last comment

[pnl86]

No. If you're trying to communicate that you've met someone that's high value and important... then act like it... communicate it and convey it... through actions - not just through words.

So, yes. That's great that a girl has her own life. But if she can't drop something that has a regular day-to-day voluntary/optional level of importance in her life to get to know a guy initially... that sends a certain message to a guy... and that message is not (try harder) or (wow, she has her own life and is so busy and full of things to do independent of me!) ... it's (she doesn't consider you that important).

Guys don't "read into bluffs." I mean, I take that back. Players do "read into bluffs," because they're interested in the game. But guys who seriously want to have a relationship with a girl will just take her actions on face value. So, if the message she's putting out is that he's not important... that's as far as most guys will read into it.

[pnl86]

"A high-value woman will tell him she already has plans, give him the next times she's available, and ask when works for him. She won't just bail on her friends to be with him." (that's an "ego bait" statement).

Very seductive for the ego to accept as true, but that's not true.

There's a dilemma and a conflict, and it's up to the woman to resolve that conflict (just as it would be up to the man to resolve that conflict if he were faced with the same conflict).

What your "rule" says is essentially, "a hard-and-fast rule that whenever there's a conflict between going out with girls or a new guy, never say 'no' to friends."

Really? So, if the friends wouldn't mind, or could easily reschedule, or it's not a big deal for them considering they know you have plans with a new guy... is that still true?

It just speaks volumes about how there isn't even a thought about potentially negotiating or navigating through this conflict, but instead just adopting an absolute rule.

[pnl86]

Or, is what a woman is "really" saying that... "it's very embarrassing to show OTHER WOMEN that 'I'm the kind of girl' who would re-schedule a meeting with friends 'just so I could meet with a new guy.'"?

[myTake Owner]

You sound bitter. Not going to lie. Now If the woman is in an exclusive relationship with the guy... that's a different story. If they're just dating, then she shouldn't just drop everything to be with him. Pretty simple and if anything, it's for the girl to remember he is just a guy she likes, he isn't the be-all, end-all and if it doesn't work out, she still has her friends and other options.

[myTake Owner]

No, my girlfriends would be like "go get him, tiger!"

[pnl86]

I'm going to ignore the personal attacks... they add nothing to the discussion.

"she shouldn't" (normative statement)

"it's for the girl to remember he is just a guy she likes, he isn't the be-all, end-all and if it doesn't work out, she still has her friends and other options." (in other words, basically justifying still playing hard-to-get and not completely acknowledging his value, because she's still in the "I don't want to put myself in a vulnerable negotiating/bargaining position" mentality).

Okay, so, basically everything I was saying. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Not exactly, at least in my case. I do strive to be capable in all things i put my hand to but I wouldn't characterize that as a 'battle'.

I went through an adventure phase in my early 20's, mostly because I could and people seemed to think it was something good to do but I didn't really get much out of it.

I haven't pursued women since I left college. There is no difference in quality that I can perceive between women who show an upfront interest in me and those who require wooing. If anything the forward ones are better.

People can't upset me very easily. I have emotions, they are the wellsprings of my character and personality but cruelty and disrespect don't hurt me at all.

Like I said, I try to do the best i can at everything I do but I don't need anyone's validation.

I do require respect from people I have to be around regularly because without it you can't get things done but I wouldn't feel 'unloved' if I didn't get it, more like frustrated.

My freedom is not in anyone's gift, no one "lets me feel free". If a woman tries to take it that will be the last she sees of me.

[PonyCar]

"Sexuality gives him a sense of love and validation."

I was under the impression that this is true for most men. Assuming their sexual partner is someone they're in a relationship with (i. e. not a prostitute, friends with benefits or other platonic individual).

[myTake Owner]

It is, I said masculine men in the titles because some men are very feminized and are more into the latest fashion trend than even sexuality. I've seen it.

[bobwallice]

I feel like this is a really good take over all. I can say that most of this is spot on. Though I would like to add that we actually like hearing a girls opinion on what we can change, as long as she respects that in the end, it's still my choice to do so. Relationships are all about change and compromise, we get that.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you :)

[magicmanX]

Great my take. This can also be retitled as Alpha Male as its true meaning in masculine men. All of the posts about alphas get obliterated with negativity as there is so much misinformation out there from the shit ass media. This is a true take on an alpha male.

[myTake Owner]

Bravo! This is what I meant by masculine! Some people haven't heard of the terms "alpha' and 'beta" that's why I just said "masculine"

[JohnScofield787]

This is very true. Including the emotion part. I am very emotional, i just know how to keep it contained now When i was younger not so much. I can handle them yes, but it took a while. And yes i am a warrior in real life and in my heart. And proud of it.

[sexyasianboi26]

This sounds like a description of the modern Beta Male who dreams of being an Alpha.

Nothing here describes the beliefs, the values, struggles in a relationship, that a masculine man does that makes him masculine.

What makes a man truly masculine and be worshipped by others is NOT by his actions alone. But its what effect his actions does, and you will be able to see as to what type of man he is.

[myTake Owner]

This is a very broad description brah, I didn't go into detail. This isn't about what makes a man a good man, just some basics to help out the clueless ladies.

[aliencreature]

So you're basically going to argue with the entire male race now, claiming to all of our faces that you know all of us better than we know ourselves

[Coffinspire]

I think you hit the nail on the head! I don't view this as sexist, but rather a vague generalization (not as a bad thing) for us to better understand our male counterparts.

[myTake Owner]

Thank you! That was my intentions :)

[SensualScribe]

I live this take!! Amazing! I like how you focused more on the personality of a masculine man and not physical attributes. Masculine men come in many forms.

[SensualScribe]

*love

[myTake Owner]

I agree! A short, skinny guy can be just as masculine as a large muscular one :)

[jjmarvin]

I always feel weird when girls try to define masculinity like this because I think i should define that for myself.

I also think validation through sexual conquest is a character flaw, and the related validation through women as well. I don't see those as positive or empowering to masculinity

[jjmarvin]

Although i think a couple paragraphs are very good gender neutral points

[RachelBrigs]

I agree

[aliencreature]

damn straight i think the most masculine thing a man can do is forge his own path. its not a battle to fight, or a beauty to pursue, its who you fucking are, who you're going to be despite what anyone else thinks about it, its not needing a woman to define yourself, cause if you always live your life relative to someone else you're basically a woman. it matters what you fight for, it matters that you are what you are not because it makes women hot or "provides a challenge" but because its what you need to be to fight for what you believe in. women--the girl who wrote this post especially--get it all wrong and think its about some bullshit testosterone, or just imagine how they'd like to be pursued and mirror it over. they see the effect but not the cause, they see the pattern but not the substance behind it. they see the fight but not what for, they see the action but not the thought behind it.

[aliencreature]

every woman needs to see this, preferably with their eyes taped open. the original video was deleted because they just dont want to believe, or even to consider this could have a grain of truth. but to truly understand our aspirations, you have to understand our struggles, our outlook in spite of it. and perhaps even comprehend that we may not even realize sometimes when we are struggling because its become such a fact of life for us. masculinity is just triumph in the face of what it truly means to live as a man youtube. com/watch? v=8nSSIBQcMGA

[jormungand]

@aliencreature Your words explained it properly indeed.

[jjmarvin]

Ehhhhhh I don't know man that video is a bit too hardcore for my taste

[Bandit74]

"men like high-value women who are genuinely not an easy catch"

keyword being genuinely.

Guys aren't going to want to chase a girl who jumped right into the net on the first date for guys she's gotten drunk with at clubs and parties.

It only feels special if you worked to get something that was actually hard to get. However if it was something a dozen or so guys got with little to no effort then the sense of acomplishment is nonexistent.

[myTake Owner]

Exactly! That's why I said she is actually high-value and not pretending.

[Anonymous]

Good take, I will add one more
#8: Just because a guy is masculine doesn't make it okay to hit him thinking "he's big and strong, he can take it." Punches still hurt. . especially after a workout.

[myTake Owner]

hahahah esspecially after a workout! Omg so true!

[Justsomeguy9814]

@aliencreature I totally agree with u, who is she to tell things about masculine men when she is a she, learnt it from friends? What you described is not a masculine man Hun it is the male equivalent of a bitch. #1 thing is respect? While respect is high thing that we believe in the number 1 thing for almost any man from a mans opinion? Family!

[nativepride73]

Very true. Except for the emotionality part, at least for me. I've always made sure my emotions stay in check at all times. I feel emotions (sometimes) but I rarely get emotional over anything.
However, the rest is spot on.

[Battooot]

i upvote the first 2 points.

and most importantly, i upvote 'RESPECT IS #1 most important thing for a man".

u don't respect me, then i will lose interest in you.

[Gommers]

Not many times I agree with nonsense like this. Women today are taught that masculinity is femininity with a dick. This is mostly true, good read.

[myTake Owner]

Yeah... I agree. Too feminized! They even feminized beards! *facepalm*

[aliencreature]

You mean those weird mustaches girls are always taking pictures with because it makes them think they look unique or eccentric

[Anonymous]

i thought this might help me get over my craziness over masculine men
but oh God it made it worse <3

i want one :( really bad
i hate these new trends and all these pretty boys

[myTake Owner]

OMG I totally agree!!!

[Anonymous]

I want to hear a mans view on this. Because you know, they are men and know how they are. You are a woman and are just assuming. Doesn't matter if you have studied under male relationship coaches. You are female. So you will never truly understand. I worship men. Everything they are and what they stand for. Their strength, adoration, mystery. But I will never try to understand one. Because I would get it wrong. Just like most men will never try to understand a women for the same reasons.

[nfigure]

"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?" Masculine men also say that too. :P