How To Tell If A Woman Sees You As An Alpha Male vs Beta Male

[BubbleBoy69]

Alpha Male

vs Beta Male

1. She values your time and opinion. A woman who sees you as an alpha male will always have time to listen to you whether it's in person or on her phone. If you ask her out on a date she will give a prompt and quick reply on whether she can make it or not. As appose to beta male who she will not care about his time and will respond whenever she feels like it. Sometimes even if they do accept, women will flake on the beta whether it's 5 minutes coming down to the end of the date only to cancel or just not show up to the date.

2. When an alpha speaks, women listen. They are locked and attentive to his words and listen to the conversation. For betas, woman (depending on how bitchy she is) will put on the false appearance of listening but she isn't really and most often will try to end the conversation as soon as possible whether with lies, being direct or showing uninterested.

3. Body languages for alpha are positive hence why they are confident with women. Most women or more accurately very frequently show positive body language to alpha males whether it's twirling their hair, biting their lips, turn her body towards you, looking at them from far away with fuck me eyes etc. A beta male can expect "friendly" body language from women at best from first encounter to straight up contempt or even looks of being seen as inferior at worst.

4. When it comes to dating and relationship. Women will put in effort to chase you even during the courting phase and make it easier, if you are an alpha. They will actually try to be women of the past and cook/clean for you and initiate sex frequently. If you cheat on them they most often than not will not only stay with you but try harder to keep you, many women have responded to their alpha boyfriend cheating on them by improving their sex game and giving them best sex they ever had on finding out. When the alpha dumps her many women will actual grovel and beg him to take her back.

As appose to the beta. Women will not put in any effort to chase you and make you do all the work to prove you are worthy. They will act more like feminist towards you and not do stuff that women did in the past such as cooking and cleaning. More often than not you will have to initiate sex and get your girl in the mood. Women are more likely to cheat on the beta with an alpha male and never tell her beta boyfriend about it. Women are more likely to dump her beta boyfriend and will not feel any regrets in losing him (unless of course he becomes rich later down or her next relationship is completely abusive and crappy)

5. Women who aren't even in relationships with you will heed alpha's advice and do things you suggest to that they wouldn't have for other men. For example, a guy I know suggested to a girl who constantly tries to get his attention that she should get vaginismus surgery. The girl in question has a rich, handsome boyfriend who acts like a beta and he was fine with just getting blowjobs/hand jobs but it took this guy's advice to pus her into getting the surgery. Not only that but when she did get it she trickled down the info through her friends to him so he could find out.

6. If a woman disrespects you right off the bat from meeting you then she perceives you as a beta male. if she does not there is good indication she sees you as an alpha.

Note: This does not apply to all women just the vast majority. The tiny percentage of women who actually don't behave like this and treat betas like they aren't inferior to them I salute you.

[Eric644]

this whole alpha vs beta nonsense is just the creation of psychopathic men that use behaviors in wolf packs to excuse their personality disorder. Pretty much a self proclaimed alpha is a man that is saying "i''m a psychopath that views myself superior to others and have no problem with hurting other people to get what I want, and I'm proud to be a psychopath". Well guess what guys, humans aren't canines, we are primates. This whole alpha vs beta rule where few males mate with all the females does not apply to primate species. in primate species most males get to mate, as noticed in our closest relative the Bonobo

[Jayson101]

It's not that. Its frustration at the duplicity of women who will fuck one guy in a day and make another guy wait a year. Of course those who know women know that its not always the dominant handsome alpha who gets some on a day. Sometimes its an ugly guy with no social skills. But the alpha/beta dichotomy is trying to get men to understand past decietfulness in women who think its okay to use people.

You should watch 'Jules et Jim' and 'La Dolce Vita' to understand decietful and dark and flaky aspect of female nature.

[WalterRadio]

The only people who think there is no such thing as alpha-beta behavior are betas.

You might want to learn more about chimps and gorillas.

[sonnysunshine]

@WalterRadio there is some hard truth to the whole alpha vs beta complex. But seriously this is going overboard. Nobody is 100% either way.

[strawberrysouffle]

I completely agree. Moreover, the behaviour isn't even actually seen in wolf packs. It was once a theory, that later got disproved. As far as we know there isn't any species that actually has the alpha-beta structure.

[sonnysunshine]

@strawberrysouffle https://youtu.be/0Ti86veZBjU

[PerAsparaAdAstra]

@strawberrysouffle Baboons do. . . . Chimps do. . . . most Apes do. . . .

[strawberrysouffle]

@PerAsparaAdAstra can you link me to a study about that?

[PerAsparaAdAstra]

@strawberrysouffle Have you taken BIO 101?

[strawberrysouffle]

@PerAsparaAdAstra I'll take that as a “no, there is no study supporting my claim“.

[TurlBirb]

@strawberrysouffle It's pretty typical for guys like that honestly. They just sit in their incel echo chambers all day and hate women for not wanting to have sex with them.

[idkwtftoputhere]

I don't need any woman to see me as anything, I already know I'm a pure certified 104% alpha male masculine man

[Vegeta01]

I agree, Idubbbz is very alpha indeed. A content cop can destroy anyone. True alpha indeed.

[TonyBologna25]

I personally that social hierarchy exist and there are individuals with alpha and beta characteristics without a doubt in my head. Having said that, people are very multidimensional in their personality and relationship dynamic.

For instance, when I first met my fiancé, she looked at me in all the ways that you listed and that lasted a while. But at one point for example, she thought I was cheating (which i wasnt) and all of those things went to shit. She built resentment, distracted herself on her phone while I talked to her, and was mouthing off a lot. Was I a beta male because of this? No, her personal insecurity caused tension in our relationship that i was unaware of.

My point is that this shit isn’t really as black as white as you think. It shouldn’t be a check off list of if your woman does x, y, and z, then you’re a beta or alpha male.

Besides, if you let other dictate how alpha and beta you are, then that’s never going to carry any solidity for the fact that individuals actions and responses to you vary dramatically. Your alpha or beta status are literally dependent off of others and therefore it’s not truly who you are. I personally find a lot of pride in defining my own.

[Holistic]

Yo this is some cringe ass stuff man. The "alpha male" and "beta male" stereotypes are what fuel toxic masculinity in western society. According to your chart, beta males think about others before themselves and shows emotion. And this is... a bad thing? A true relationship requires honesty, shown through the exchange of thoughts and emotion. That's why the traditional masculine man isn't always the best.

"If you cheat on them they most often than not will not only stay with you but try harder to keep you, many women have responded to their alpha boyfriend cheating on them by improving their sex game and giving them best sex they ever had on finding out." I hope you were being satirical with this take, man.

[_blondebaby_]

This whole alpha/beta topic is bs. In my case I, and many others, just want to feel appreciated. We want to feel loved and secure. While men mainly base their relationships on the physical appearances on their partner, women will tend to base their relationships on how they feel around their partner. When it comes to my choosing of man in a relationship I usually look for someone who excites me, someone who makes me feel different, happy, secure, needed, and good enough. I don't however look for someone who will cause me to feel lesser, unequal, and inadequate.

[brennanhuff]

so women alpha men attract insecure women? Women who accept a cheating man are usually insecure or have low self esteem and may do so when the man is rich or high status. So they deal with it because they may not have such financial support easily from other men like he can. Women and girls may flake out more on beta men, but women and men deal with each other flaking out regardless. It happens, it's life. And putting people first is a strong selfless point. There's maturity with that too. And sometimes, I think the alpha term is overrated because being all confident, assertive, macho is not needed. The need to be masculine, and leader and top of the pack is actually a lot about proving oneself. A true leader can be quiet, can be outward, can be whatever, but owns it and is could care less about labels, beta alpha.

[MzAsh]

What is up with #4? Women shouldn’t do this regardless. Men chase, women choose. Doesn’t matter if he’s “alpha” or not. Men are disinterested in women who chase. They want the woman who requires him to work hard to get and keep her attention.

Also, if he cheats, she should consider dumping him. There’s no excuse for such disrespect, even coming from an “alpha.”

[TurlBirb]

In all honesty? I like a woman who chases. Because throughout my time chasing women, it's always been MY time that has to be spent if I want her. It's always HER time that's more valued than mine. And that's bullshit. I want a partner who chases as much as she wants to be chased. All this traditionalist crap of "men chase, women choose"... and what do we have to show for it? Generation after generation, failing progressively more and more marriages? Maybe it's time people stopped trying to adhere to a naturalist doctrine and just started treating each other as romantic equals.

My time is not worth more or less than a woman's. I am her equal, and she is mine. Time to start acting like it.

[MzAsh]

I agree that reciprocation is important and that your time is just as valuable as hers. Just as long as a man isn’t sitting back and not showing interest, you should have a decent shot.

[Lman3000]

And thus this is why dating is only going down the shitter every year, It's always being alpha or being just a regular guy, everyone is putting each other in box instead of actually giving other a chance, if ya try to date the guy and you don't like the fella move on, who gives a shit, but don't categorize dating, I thought the point of dating was to try new experiences with different type of people, but all I see people only want one type of fella and nothing more if they don't their expertise, your not a special snowflake no one is, stop the alpha and beta BS and actually try something new for a change, I gotta share the tough no remorse opinion out there

[BluesheepOwl]

"Alpha" is basicslly douche and I can spot them a mile away. I typically like getting attention and if this guy is the only one that wants attention... I won't be sticking around. You can just tell when someone is genuine and when someone is full of themselves. No thank you. 💩

[vald9inches]

if he is a douche then he is not an "alpha" but just a wannabe "alpha" that is trying to overcompensate with his ego for things he is lacking in other departments lol

[BluesheepOwl]

@vald9inches they probably want a lot of sex but in reality they never get anyone or rarely get someone

[vald9inches]

if they are a douche that is a given 😂😂😂

[1truekhaleesi]

Why do men care so much about this alpha vs. beta shit? Literally no one cares other than yourselves. Also, I think it's a good trait for someone to out the needs of others first, so long as they take care of themselves too. I have a friend who consistently puts the needs of other first and it's something I love about her.

[TurlBirb]

As a guy, I don't understand why they put so much emphasis on alpha-beta shit. Just be confident and follow your passions in life, and tons of girls would be happy to date you. Because at that point, at least you're your own fucking person instead of this "alpha" chest-beating bullshit!

[AlienParasite]

"Note: This does not apply to all women just the vast majority. The tiny percentage of women who actually don't behave like this and treat betas like they aren't inferior to them I salute you."

I salute you back, human. Also you forgot to add gammas, deltas and epsilons. Now seriously, I find this ironical, a man who gives this too much importance trying to be an alpha, is in fact insecure and nearest to what a beta would be. Nobody confident for real would rely on this kind of things.

[PerAsparaAdAstra]

Classic female manipulation tactic starting off followed by shaming and trash talk. Yep. . . Typical girls.

[AlienParasite]

@PerAsparaAdAstra Just because I said something you don't like doesn't mean I'm trying to manipulate anyone. It's just my opinion

[deLéman]

😂😂
One would have to be ridiculously insecure to care about the "alpha vs beta male" concept. Not everyone is ever going to appreciate you for who you are, so you may as well live life in a way that gives you the most satisfaction while causing minimal harm.

[Ripper_E]

There are no Alphas or Betas. That is a termed used for wild animals, most notably with Wolves and in a Wolf Pack, the Beta ain't no bitch.
If a woman is so quick to chase after a man and do whatever it takes to please him then she's a dumb piece of shit. If a man doesn't stand up for himself and tell a woman how he feels he's a fucking coward. Fuck that Alpha/Beta high school shit.

[Anonymous]

I used to completely buy into the whole alpha vs beta crap for a long long time. I’ve also listened and followed Corey Wayne extensively.

I was born a genuine “nice” guy. Yeah go ahead call me beta all you want. But that didn’t stop me from losing my virginity at 16, sleeping with over 40 women (including 2 threesomes), making a six digit income and becoming a pro mma fighter.

I actually care about people’s feelings though. It’s true that a very large swath of women reject that and want to be treated like shit. But there is a minority of them you are SEXUALLY attracted to gentlemen.

https://youtu.be/0Ti86veZBjU

[coralee]

I don't see anyone as an alpha it's a ridiculous concept taken from inaccurate study on the behaviour of wolves. And the more guys worry about this fantasy the more pathetic they seem.

[englisc]

People always argue about the accuracy of those words, but that's really all you're arguing about. They are used in the wrong way but most people know what is meant by it - a man who acts in an attractive, confident way vs a guy who doesn't.

[coralee]

@englisc That's all well in good but confident men don't have to put other men down to feel confident about themselves. You aren't confident if you have to keep comparing yourself to other people. How about just believing in yourself and acting in a way that is deserving of respect rather the clinging too words designed to make insecure little boys feel macho.

[englisc]

They're just words to describe something. It's quicker to say "alpha" than to say "a confident masculine man". I think people read way too much into it. I also don't get from this take that it's to put guys down but to help them to realise what's going on with a girl.

[BuffaloChickenWrap]

Well I will tell you I have been a big guy most of my life and it was very shocking to know that so many girls have wanted to be with me I guess I am like a Tony Soprano type guy the way people see me but I am also very outspoken and always very controntational and real meanwhile most guys are just beta males agreeing with PC and the views that make them a pussy

[Ellie-V]

I’m so tired of this bs.
There’s no such thing as an “alpha” or “beta” male.

[vald9inches]

i just replace it with confident and unconfident male

[Ellie-V]

@vald9inches even unconfident guys get attention and respect from girls, in my opinion/observation.

[PerAsparaAdAstra]

Wrong. . . .

[Ellie-V]

@PerAsparaAdAstra sorry you feel that way

[PerAsparaAdAstra]

I'm not concerned.

[Ellie-V]

@PerAsparaAdAstra ok

[Eva323]

Do you really want to know a surefire trick to see if a girl will see you one way or the other?
Look at how other men treat you. Women will basically just go based on that. Gain the respect of other men and the women will follow along.

[Littlewife]

I think maybe what your describing I'd if she likes you in a romantic way. I know plenty of "alpha" and "beta" males but it doesn't matter to me because I'm spoken for.

[Curmudgeon]

I'm the Omega Man, myself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYk2UiwWeBI

[objob94]

Sorry, but this is utter tosh.

If you're not confident in yourself, women will know as will other men and you will not have as much respect as someone who has amazing faith in their abilities.

[Eric644]

exactly. there is no alpha vs beta. it all has to do with confidence which is something you can work on. There isn't this few men are born for success crap that these self proclaimed alpha psychopaths believe, success in life comes from hard work not from something you are born with

[Jayson101]

@Eric644 its true goddamit! The theory has won!

[zagor]

There's no alpha/beta BS; people aren't wolves. Women like confident, competent men who are capable of protecting them. No need for psychobabble.

[BubbleBoy69]

You kind of have to blind to not see that human behave just like animals.

[zagor]

Well yeah, they are. But most people don't fall neatly into set categories. The real world is analog, not digital.

[BubbleBoy69]

People actual do. Go to any social group and girls are always focusing their sights on small group of men. Studies have shown this even in college environment. Small group of men (usually fraternity, college jocks, and high status males) get most of the CASUAL sex. The rest of the men don't.

We see this in tinder studies. Women cannot resist and alpha male and usually put up a front of disinterest but they really aren't. A perfect example is a story i came across a couple years ago where a guy had a room mate who was a fuckboy (tall, good looking, charismatic). Needless to say his girlfriend then who eventual became wife acted like she didn't like him. The fact she didn't just sleep with him like all the other girls made her feel special to him and he married her.

Years later and reunion, she meets back up with him and blatantly flirts infront of her husband. She admits that she use to sleep with him. The husband found out that when they were in college during time they were on a break.

[BubbleBoy69]

She blew the fuck boy while he was playing video games and fucked him a few times before coming back to him.

We also seen on tinder study here on gag that many women even in relationship/marriage are actively on tinder ready to get fucked by an alpha male.

[BubbleBoy69]

When surveys were done on college campuses on if a person ever cheated on their SO. The numbers were around 20's in percentile for men and women when not anonymous. The number remain largely the same for men with anonymous for men but doubled for women.

[zagor]

Well of course men who are good-looking and confident with women get more action. I went to a college that didn't really have jocks and frat boys so I can't really speak to that part, but the guys I've known that women go for (to an extraordinary degree, I mean) are generally just VGL.

A year or so I was at a singles mixer at an art gallery talking with this woman when one of the artists came over to chat with us. He was a Swedish guy, 6 ft 7, extremely handsome, and all of a sudden it was like I was invisible to her. When he talked to her she was staring like a schoolgirl. He was a very nice guy (I had been talking to him earlier about his work), but she had no way of knowing that at that point. In fact he seemed a bit shy, so there was no "alpha" personality at work there - he was just gorgeous (hell, if I went that way, I would have picked him too).

Yet there are other guys I know who are shorter and uglier than me, but are able to get a lot of women.

[zagor]

Some way out of their league. I think it is mostly just persistence. Like the home run hitter who swings for the fences, they are willing to put up with a lot of strikeouts.

[Jayson101]

They dont need to fall neatly into these categories. They aren't strict categories. They are less strict than feminist opinion on womens preference.

[Jayson101]

Notice how zagor slowly concedes to your argument while claiming to protest it?

And its no point saying 'out of your league' i am in a city (vancouver) where at least half the girls are beautiful. Beauty in women ain't that rare at all. Quite common actually.

[zagor]

@Jayson101 I didn't concede to it, I just agreed that some people have to work a lot harder than others to get some.

[Jayson101]

That is the base principal my friend. The rest falls into place thereafter