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My date suddenly disappeared and no longer answered my messages, and it's not like I was blowing her phone or saying mean things. It was like a couple of messages a week.
After a month I discovered she had returned with her ex just a week after the last dated, ex who she had broken several times with and they were arguing all day long. A girl friend of mine told me she was always like that.
Now, tell me, should I be mad? Is the problem that I'm a nice guy?
This is not to disqualify this take, which I found quite interesting. But rather to contemplate that there's also the other side of the coin.
The difference between your situation and the situation in these examples is that you'd already been on a date, these guys hadn't. They were just sending random messages to girls they didn't know and expecting them to respond. Once you've been on a date with a girl, I think she owes you an explanation or at least a message to let you know she's no longer interested. So you had a valid reason to be mad. But there isn't much point in complaining to her either, it's not like she'd care unfortunately.
I see. Thanks.
The problem is that women doesn't know what they truly want. When you check a single woman's FB or other social page, you'll see they're sharing posts about the ideal romance, the desire of having a caring, nice boyfriend... and when they meet with one, they don't care about that at all. Women basically doesn't know what they want. So I simply play the good cop, bad cop routine. I'm good and nice when I have to, but when she is swinging in her mood, I don't care about her until she doesn't set herself straight. This method tends to work.
actually you were right without the quotation marks. quit being nice.
because women LOVE being treated like shit. true story. dont believe them. they are programmed to want the OPPOSITE of what they say.
Example:I RARELY blow it up front, and I've had sex with 40 plus women, tried to date most of them briefly, but could never make it last more than a month. I play it cool>Smash>start warmin up and being nice, and guess what happens. HOS GET BORED. yep
so when I figured that out FINALLY, started sleeping with someone new and with held my attention, ignored her calls, insulted her, and then what happened? that ho wanted to hang out EVERYDAY.
for real though if I had wised up sooner Ida been fuckin 6 girls at once for the entirety of my early twenties.
A have a strict ZERO COMPLIMENTS policy for all women (due to their ego), and treat everyone, regardless of gender based on how they treat me. If you talk shit, are entitled, or rude, whether you have a vagina or not, is of no concern to me... you can gtfo.
" ZERO COMPLIMENTS policy for all women"
"and treat everyone, regardless of gender based on how they treat me"
So... what if a girl gives you a compliment?
@sawno Women do not give many compliments, most just ''absorb'' all of them from men all day.
However, there have been some occasions where women have complimented me. I either say thanks, or just agree with them.
It's ironic that me, the guy that does not give compliments, has been complimented many times, but all of the guys I know that compliment the women all day do not receive any compliments at all...
It seems many guys on gag can't read past the title of take.
I think the same. 🙌
@JubJub_Hi 👍😊
I have never done this in my life. I be nice to women because I like to be nice to EVERYONE, no matter who they are. If they are a so called "slut" t they are still a human being so I shall be nice. I'm nice no matter what, unless someone pisses me off, which happens pretty often. Those pictures made me a little pissed at how they act (the people trying to be "nice" to a woman or whatever).
My only disappointment is that you didn't post this without hiding behind the Anon Filter. Also, you are a little late to the game... dont get me wrong, at least you put the shit out there...
Just do me a favor... go on my profile and read my Takes... I've been way ahead of this game for years.
Being anon doesn't change the content and it's not a game of who's first, dude. These issues have always existed and you've expressed similar views in the past, awesome.
hell yea awesome... but its nice to know someone else recognizes it.
It goes without saying, claiming to be a nice guy doesn't make you one, and being needy or desperate can't be compensated for, by being nice.
A beautiful girl, will nave a nice guy, but only if he is also handsome, charming etc. as well. Being nice is not a free ticket into girls harts, just as bearing handsome isen't.
We all want a combination of various trait, beaign nice is just one of them.
Don't be a "nice guy."
Don't even be a nice guy
... (wait for it)...
Be a good man.
Pretty wise.
Excellent
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Yeah, I posted something similar (mytake) regarding this issue. You did provide great examples. The closing part is also extremely important.
These are good lessons to learn from!
"nice guys"...
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Thanks for reading, man. Do you mind providing a link to your take? Would be good reading. The Elliot Rodger thing is so true sadly.
Sure thing. Here you go anon sir.
www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a48395-why-i-don-t-consider-myself-a-nice-guy
It's lengthy but in great detail. There's an Elliot Rodger reference also.
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i agree with you men who do that are pathetic.
but what do you do when you are being genuine and tell her exactly what you want from her and she happily plays along and and never disagrees with you and when you do try getting that thing she says its not what she wanted... i will explain it.
sometimes girls approach me i admit iam looking for sex and nothing serious, they happily agree, but after i try getting sex from them after a while of knowing them they admit that they want something serious not quick fun... so basically theyre lying to me.
Yeah, that's a problem with some girls and not us so we can't really control it unfortunately. I've experienced it too.
I guess it's just a case of if she agrees in the beginning to no strings attached fun and then later on is wanting a serious relationship only, you've got to accept the fact she's changed her mind or was lying to you and just take it or leave it. That's the only thing we really can do.
yeah unfortunately i can't really know when they lie or dont since they usually agreee but change their mind later on, my theory is that some women think men want sluts and act like sluts to secure their relationship with the man they want but when its time to actually be slutty they refuse to do it , they put up an act but its fake.
I think you've hit the nail on the head with that one. That does seem like the most likely reason.
Can you guys ever get the language right and start saying 'stop trying to appease women'?
Because a whole bunch of confusion over 'being an a-hole is OK' stems from the fact so many people will mis-say this as 'stop being nice' - so guys really stop being nice - and start being a-holes instead.
Don't think 'appease' is the right word, it's not niceness just for the sake of trying to make them happy, it's niceness for the sake of trying to get in their pants. And usually given these guys will describe themselves as 'nice guys', it becomes necessary to talk in their language.
I mentioned very clearly in bold letters right at the start that I'm not saying 'don't be nice', so if they still want to misconstrue things to mean that, nothing will help them.
No, you have - but I just still find it too easily confused (and in a non-english speaking country, man does it come across as weird!)
If not appease than fake-nice, or manipulative - still clearer than nice - nice is good, kind, loving...
Ah ok, thanks for the input. I'll keep it in mind.
Good job. Basically, be good to women. Respect them, and keep compliments sincere. Don't be fake. If you are a good man, it should come naturally.
Too true! Being fake is a bad basis for a relationship. Respect everyone until they give you a reason not to and then don't be an asshole, just move on with your life.
"Basically, be good to women. Respect them, and keep compliments sincere" So basically be... nice to them?
Any woman wearing pants like in your 1st picture doesn't deserve having doors open for her.
I only open doors for women who wear dresses and skirts. Always have and always will. I respect women who still love wearing dresses and skirts. I may open the door for a woman wearing shorts but definitely not wearing pants. Say what you want but if she's bold enough to dabble into our style of clothes, I won't be chivalrous towards her. Chivalry is not a right. It's a privilege.
What an odd personal moral.
It's a privilege, not a right.
She has no business being mad about it. If she doesn't like it, she shouldn't wear pants.
I'm not refuting that chivalry isn't something anyone is "entitled" to.
But I do think it's odd that pants is where you've chosen to draw the line. It's just interesting, that's all. What is it about women wearing pants that makes you feel so insulted?
Because it's not feminine or sexy to me. If she at-least wears some short shorts, then I may be moved enough to want to open her door. However, I equate pants wearing to a woman who is a feminist and mocks men.
tf is wrong with pants? its winter, who tf in their right mind is gonna wear shorts and skirts out in this weather lol u crazy
@Volvagia
Women in the 1920s through 1960s did it.
Not at the rate they do now.
Women can wear pants if they want. I just won't hold the door open for them if they do and won't inform them why.
The 1950's called... they want their sexist mentality back.
@itsallover
What do you mean?
lmao dude r u fr rn
@Volvagia
Huh?
Ah, so you solve that little conundrum by just not being chivalrous at all. Gotcha.
@HungLikeAHorsefly
I would be if she didn't wear pants. I wouldn't be if she didn't. I don't even know why this makes you mad. It's fair and a privilege.
I shouldn't be blasted for this just because she wears pants and I refuse her chivalry. It's my right to set the standard for women I want to be chivalrous towards.
Guys like this are so fake. You know what I would do to guys like that? Ask them for large sums of money. They'd either do it or leave me tf alone. Either way it's a win win in my book and most of the time they'd leave me alone LOL
Bruh, I fucking hate these double standards...
When a man gets rejected, people say to me the girl has the right to reject you.
When a woman gets rejected, people tell me to "give her a chance" or "I'm an asshole for rejecting this girl"
Wtf is this bullshit?
Bravo amen I agree 100%
To the ladies that disliked, I HAVE A RIGHT TO REJECT A GIRL.
Damn right man you sure do have the right.
Wow <3. I've had some guys like that. I've lost so many friends because I wouldn't sleep with them, or they told everyone I did. They give the nice guys a bad name. I've never met one but I'm sure they exist somewhere. They get nasty when you say no. I've felt horrible for it at times, than again I hate hurting people's feelings. If a guy knows that you hate hurting people, he likes to use it.
Oh, some guys just go in for the creep kill. I've had a few. One just asked straight out where I lived. I've had bigger creeps but still..
It's time for guys to stop communicating with women; especially if you live in the United States or England/Wales. One wrong word or move and you're in jail for a harassment crime you never committed. Stay away from women altogether.
ye go mgtoW
You can use your tears as lube when you circle jerk with your MGTOW buddies.
@HungLikeAHorsefly I don't cry or have friends. I'm totally fine by myself.
@Volvagia You got that right. Funny username too.
tbh I can relate with no having friends part - everyone assumes your lonely but for the most part, its not bad at all.
Also my username is a LoZ reference
When you want a remontic relationship with a woman - obviously including sex- your not nice anymore
women like to be put in their true place , don't treat them nice they don't like that, they prefer aggression
Don't be that guy , you won't be appreciated , be the mistake of her life , she'll appreciate it ways more