Why is this?
It's very hard to find someone attractive when all they do is talk about and do repulsive things.
I agree with you that most guys are like that. Some are vulgar all of the time and almost all are a little bit that way. I'll admit I have my moments. I agree that guys are also on their best behavior as they first get to know you. A close female friend says we are all 12. If something was funny when we were 12, it will always be funny and we don't grow out of it.
I'm not sure why it's like that. I could just as easily turn it around and ask with exasperation why the vast majority of women can't bring themselves to laugh at a good fart joke, for example. While the guys are cracking up, the women are shaking their heads, saying, "It's just a bodily function." To which I could respond, "Yeah, it is. So why can't you laugh along?"
Personally, I go out of my way to try to curb this sort of thing in mixed company. Making the people around me laugh, especially women, takes a bit more clever observation and wit, and that's precisely why I'd say I even prefer the company of female friends and also may be why I bore when I have too much contact with my guy friends. But do you think this quality which you've labeled immaturity may be exactly what you *do* like about men when it's channeled into more positive outlets such as lightheartedness and playful humor? Could it actually serve to keep you youthful, from being too staid and humorless?
Hm. I like your prospective on this topic. I don't mind humor but sometimes with males it just gets too over the top and it's a big turn off. I guess it's the way you look at it.
As you get older--I'll assume, if your age and country is correct, that you'll be done with high school in a few months or maybe this time next year--you'll find guys do get somewhat better. Especially if you're headed to college, an education usually makes a difference. At least we'll use our expanded vocabularies when when we engage in blue humor. And, for now, you also might do well to hang out with brainier guys in general.
Thanks for your reply. :-)
Let me educate you about something. One thing about guys is -we think about sex a lot, really A LOT. If you are at least somewhat attractive, around you they will think more and more about sex. The other thing about guys is most are rather crude and lacking in the grace and fineness department. They don't know a better way of expressing their emotions so they start talking about sex - the ultimate goal. A guy with grace and style would express his emotions with more subtle and fine words, never directly speaking about sex, someone like me who is a skilled elocutionist would make you want to bring up sex, and make you think it was your idea. But the base principle doesn't change, the ultimate goal the recurring theme is still sex, just clad in silk and gold. As Giovanni Boccaccio said - everything is acceptable if you present it the right way.
Which sex isn't the problem, I know it's natural, the issue is just how they come across and HOW many times it comes across. I agree with that saying though.
Men are like that mosts men and yes it is tiring My cousin and his best friend are like taht childish and immature when it comes to see pretty women and they are full grown up guys in his mid 40´s!! My cousin sister one of these days acknowledge that and she said she hates when her brother and his friend they only think about sex, nice bodies and women when they see a pretty girl or talk about girls and she said they look like high schoolers and not men in their mid 40´s!!
I agree with your observation and experience. Same is mine.
Probably guys can't control themselves and wish to express their desire sooner than later. Some guys also have misconception that we girls like such talk. Most of the guys have sex in mind which compels them to show it in any case.
Thanks for selecting me MHG.
Firstly not all men are like this. It can be a sign of lack of maturity (given your age I will bet for most it's lack of maturity).
Secondly, I think you might be suffering from a touch of "lack of men". Can I ask - do you have any brothers or live with a lot of men at home?
I know that it isn't all men, that's why I said majority of the males that I have met act this way, despite their ages. I have met guys who are a lot older than me and still they act this way.
Secondly, yes. I know a lot of males. I grew up with four out of my six MALES cousins and their MALE friends. Not only that, but I have a brother and quite a few male friends.
Growing up with cousins isn't quite the same. They go home at the end of the day. Just like male friends too.
I hate to step on your expertise but I grew up with 4 brothers and my mum left in my early teenage years. My only surviving grandparent was male who I cared for from teenage and cared for my father from late teenage.
My point is that living with a male full time, especially many, tends to show you characteristics.
Yes. Men are men. They talk about sex. They talk about violence. But you know what else? Sex is also a joking topic. For some women this is very tricky to understand.
Think of it like "corrrr C. Tatum is so fit" and the "humour" is added with vulgarity - "he'd get me so wet I could take a bath afterwards"
You only find it vulgar because it's in a male context "id smash her tits till they looked like a mashed meringue" or whatever. When flipped to a female context it's more relatable to yourself.
Try not to be so easily offended.
Growing up with your cousins is pretty much the same thing. Doing so had an effect on the way that I grew up. I have four sisters yet all of us act more like our male cousins than we do anything else.
I hate to step on your expertise but just because you grew up with four brother doesn't give you more extensive knowledge of all males. Which my question wasn't encompassing of all males.
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You're better off waiting for the right person anyway. The reason for most heart-break and gender hate is due to differing expectations from relationships. A rushed relationship is less likely to work, than a relationship in which both parts accumulate affection over time. Remember, even if humans now have access to many a modern technology, they are, at base, a type of animal/primate; instincts still serve it's purpose for better or for worse. Males of pretty much any species you could across, has his instincts tell him to breed, some guys will just show it more than others.
I do agree with you on that, but I still don't understand why guys have to be VULGAR.
Ugh, yeah I get it. Vulgar is one thing, I don't mind that so much, but the anti-intellectualism kills me. Like so many guys think dumb is cool/smart, and smart is uncool and stupid.
There are guys out there not like this, though. I know several. Great people. It totally depends on the environment. The dumb/immature/anti-intellectual guys are drawn to each other and tend to concentrate in certain places. Ironically, college campuses is one. Bars is another. So just know where to look (personally I don't. I have met every rational and mature guy I know through others of the same, stemming back to like preschool random chance friendships) It is unfair to judge all men just because there are a lot of dumbasses around. Realize though, that it is due to the way they were encourage to be growing up.
As for me, I'm leaving the gender. It's not for me.
You could of been raised in a very sheltered environment but you're going to have to learn how to not be so delicate. If you don't then you're going to have a hard time with men in general.
People like to correlate being polite and formal all the time with maturity. Those people are boring and have dull personalities. I'm 23 years old. I've been in the military. Soon to graduate university. I have a girlfriend. Financially Independent. I work hard. That's qualifies me as an adult.. no?
I also act like 12 year old and mess around with my friends when it's time I'm not working hard. Learn to laugh at yourself and have a sense of humor boyo. You're 17.. lighten up.
I rarely talk about the stuff the guys do.
I hate it so much I hate it. All the guys I know except one. One guy. Talks about
sex
racial jokes
Sexual innuendos
Sexual jokes
Racial slurs everywhere
Political crap
Insult people
Be immature and stupid
Make weird noises
Talk bad about the girls I know behind there backs saying how ugly they are and how flat they are and how non of them are perverted but innocent
They talk about outdated and just plain stupid and immature memes and YouTube videos
It's pisses me off so much
I've been in environments where literally every guy but me is exactly like that. It's so frustrating, and makes me have no hope for humanity. On the other hand, currently, I know several other guys who are not like this. Definitely seems to be a minority.
Yeah the one other guy is cool. So is like me and him vs a lot of dudes. So 2/19/28. there's 2 sweet guys me abs him. 19 buys I. Total and 28 kids in my class. So 9 girls.
Ugh! Don't get me started on racial jokes and slurs. Those make me the most upset. And it's so common to come across.
Majority of the girls I have met, despite their age, are very boring. All they do is talk about shoes and if not shoes, then something boring and shallow. And it isn't just a few girls that I know, it's just about every last one of them. Even if at first they don't seem to be that way, when you get to know them, they are.
Why is this?
It's very hard to find someone attractive when all they do is talk about and do Channing Tatum.
Haha! I see what you did there.
I don't know, but it annoys the hell out of me too. It's probably why I don't have many male friends. I would love to hang out with a guy friend for the day and not have them talk about sex and stuff like that, or at the very least talk about it maturely. I only know like two guys I can be around on a daily basis because they around aren't like that. Or at least they aren't like that around me.
It's called hanging with the wrong crowd. There's plenty of guys out there who don't just talk about sex and act immature all day. They're kinda just hidden around, place to place. You have to get out the bubble you've yet to realize exists around you and you'll more likely find more guys that you're looking for
hey girl I am not at all vulgar OK? so let's talk about how many anime you have watched till now, I bet I have watched more than you and yeah do you want spoilers to game of thrones season 7? I bet this was repulsive!!! 😊
Anime is one of the biggest components in males vulgarity. Every male that I know who watches anime are perverted.
Lmao. Are you crazy? (I'm joking.)
How did I make you lose your spotify account?
Hahahaha! You're crazy boy.
Why are all women act get grossed out by the slightest thing as a bug or act so weak and fragile. See if you just spin this the correct way you can make this whatever way you'd like. Its based on styerotypes, you just need to get out more and meet people instead of talking to the same collective few. If most guys (or all) are like that, deal with it, there's nothing more to say
Maybe if you stopped only hanging out with the loudest, most attractive and popular guys, you would encounter more diversity.
I hang out with all sorts of guys. Not just popular, good looking ones.
Then were do you women meet these guys? Because the only guys who are vulgar like that are either the best looking ones or the worst looking ones.
well, men are programed very differently to women, as for the childish and immature behavior, that can't really be explained
You're 17 in a fucked up generation. Do you really expect that gentlemen still exist within this generation. They must be as rare as antimatter nowadays.
I'm not asking for gentlemen, I think they're overrated. All I'm saying is... nevermind. Nobody gets what I'm saying other than females.
I feel everyone is misunderstanding my question.
I guess I shouldn't worry about it too much then.
If you think most people are perverted, you're the outlier not them.
That's fine. You're allowed to be less sexual. It doesn't make you superior to them though (or inferior). Just different.
Guys at my school are not generally like that, thank God.
they're 12. that's all that matters to them at this time.
I actually dislike how sexual my female co workers talked where I used to work.
It was at a freaking elementary school where people could over hear sometimes.
I don't think that is gender exclusive.
Depends on the guy I have been more aggressive lately it's like a release, being nice does not get the message across
and girls talk while drinking tea at 4.15
get a thick skin or be quiet
That has absolutely nothing to do with having thick skin. I've tried looking past it, but it's so out there.
this very wide generlisation is very ignorant like why girls are very emotional and nagging
why girls talk to much why girls are crazy -_-
Okay, say I know 20 males, out of those 20 males 18 of them are overly sexual, perverted, 98% of their vocabulary are cuss words.
I'm not saying all males are like this, I'm just saying the better part of the males that I've met and personally know, are.
they act like that bc that how they interact
men talk to each other in different language
whats your point than
Why though? It's fine to have a normal conversation without bringing up some perverted nonsense. -_-
no its not its boring
i know how girls talk in their private fb , ig... groupes hhhh
I have no idea but it definitely gets old. I don't even bother being in relationships anymore.
I'm right at the age where I'm ready to start really dating, but guys make me not want to get into a relationship.
Sorry to hear that but most people do :) and its common here
Where's here? The UK or GAG?
GAG :)
I don't talk to much people on GAG.
Oh Its fine Girl :)
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