Men love crazy bitches, do you agree?

[MzAsh]

Yep

No

[passinby]

YES, mine are psychos and they are the wildest ride possible. The crazier they are the better the sex. They also hate my guts and that adds to the heat.

I never said I want a "nice girl"; I wouldn't waste my time looking.

[Mexicoman101]

Yes and no. Crazy has a charming way about it, but it's also very unpredictable and dangerous. Sometimes I'm intrigued by the intellect of crazy people. Ostensibly, I would rather be with someone is more measured & sane.

[Anonymous]

Some do and some don't

[ScaryCool]

Lol We usually don't know that until AFTER were together.

[Dumnemtech]

Fucking preach

[Streamhopper]

Nope. I'm sure there's some guys out there who like that; I'm far too gentle to survive something like that. I'd get eaten alive and spit out, lol.

[Myrdices]

Man Iv never said I didn't like crazy chicks I like em a little wild keeps things interesting one day she might be happy and loving on me and the next a knife comes flying by my face it's never a dull moment

[GuyWhatRunsThePlace]

Absolutely not. But once you get to a certain age all that's left is crazy bitch, or #foreveralone.

[Futurelooker]

Some do, some don´t. A lady in the street, but a bitch in bed...

[Anonymous]

Most women act like spoiled crazy children and society has made it acceptable, so it's when most of something is a certain way, it's hard to claim that men like it because it's crazy... we don't, there is just little else out there.

[MzAsh]

That doesn’t explain why men ignore good women and go for crazy bitches.

[Opinion Owner]

Most "good women" are crazy bitches who simply think they are good, but when in a relationship they act just like all others. Trying to "change him", dictating what he does and who he hangs with, throwing tantrums when they don't get their way, etc.

Or they are "good women" because they are fat or ugly and have no choice but to be "good women" but that shit doesn't mean anything if you look gross.

[MzAsh]

It’s just interesting how what men say they want and what they go for are two completely different things.

[Opinion Owner]

Up until about 30, women have most of the sexual power and make the choices of who they are with, generally. It's isn't until after about 30 that this dynamic changes and men are more selective and have more power to choose.

[MzAsh]

To a degree but women still generally have more options than men even after 30, unless they are particularly unattractive.

[Opinion Owner]

It becomes less and less possible for women after 30 as their looks start to go south.
Women want men who are stable, financially and emotionally. They want a man who is mature and ready to settle down, therefore men gain more power after 30, as they become more situated in life. (Obviously a 30 year old bum wouldn't have the same pull for women as the norm)

[MzAsh]

Everyone’s looks eventually go south at some point. Men don’t really age like wine either. The harder they work, they earlier their bodies break down. A young able 22 year old is hotter than a broke down 38 year old.

[Opinion Owner]

Women are less interested in looks after 30, they want the other things I mentioned.
But generally speaking, men do age a shit ton better than women. (We also don't wear makeup)
Men may not age like wine, but women age like bread.

[Opinion Owner]

[MzAsh]

Lol she’s way too hot for him. Believe me, we still want your looks.

[MzAsh]

When a woman’s hot, she’s hot. It doesn’t matter if she’s 24, 34, or 54. Believe me.

[Opinion Owner]

You are delusional. She "WAS" hot. Now she looks like a bloated sack of dog dirt.

Very few women are actually "hot"... you got a handful of mediocre females who look "hot" when they wear makeup.

[MzAsh]

Yes, she was too hot for him. He’s ok but never been more than average. Women are generally more beautiful than men.

[Opinion Owner]

Only between puberty and about 30 then they sour.

[MzAsh]

That’s not what our experience tells us.

[Opinion Owner]

Then you haven't had enough experience.

[MzAsh]

I’m 34 and catch more attention than I did at 18.

[Opinion Owner]

That will change.

[MzAsh]

Everything changes eventually. However I continue to improve. My body, mind, financial situation, better environment. I become stronger, more confident and successful by the day. That’s how we grow society... better building them up. You’re trying to tear them down. Not good.

[Opinion Owner]

Society does nothing else but lift women up. I, on the other hand, do not kid glove women simply because society expects it. I do not allow women to act like spoiled children, I hold them responsible for their actions, I tell them the truth even if it "hurts their feelings", etc.

Western women live in an entitled spoiled bubble where they are protected from all criticism and given everything possible to make their life easier (at the expense of men)... so when they start to lose the one and only thing they have (looks) that help them to get through life easily...
I have no sympathy.

If females didn't act like diva brats for the first half of their lives and then expected men to cater to them in every way, I would be more sympathetic. But women (generally) treat men like they are disposable resources for money and protection. They have no issue belittling a male openly and without consequence. But if they are treated "equally" by a man, they turn in to fragile victims.

[MzAsh]

That’s why I teach women to stop giving a damn about what people think. The problem feminists make is that they ask for permission.

[Opinion Owner]

The problem feminist make is that they exist.
They don't ask permission for shit, they use bullying and other shit to push and take.

[MzAsh]

I’m assuming you mean sjws. Liberal feminism did a lot of necessary work in the past.

[Opinion Owner]

Feminism did very little if anything positive.
Women could vote before the feminist, they could own land and work.
These things were based more on status than gender. Lower status males couldn't vote or own land, but high-status females could.
Feminism has been a hate group since it's inception. The most famous feminist have all been misandrist. Dworkin, Solanas, Greer, Steinem, etc.
Groups like NOW and the womens UN push false fear mongering and bullshit stats. They silence and shut down actual issues men face.

[MzAsh]

I’m going to have to disagree. I fully support the work of these women and groups and I’ve personally volunteered for NOW and Planned Parenthood. These groups are sincere in their pursuits.

[MzAsh]

Also RAINN

[Opinion Owner]

You can disagree all you like, it doesn't stop the facts from being true.
ANY feminist organization that suggests the wage gap is real, there is a rape culture, or that 1 in 4 women will be assaulted in their lifetime, is pushing lies and false data.

Here's a few examples of NOWs Misandry.




RAINN pushes the false 1 in 4 stat underhandly created by Mary Koss in 1982 for Ms. Magazine. They know it's a lie and they use it to push fear-mongering of men as rapist.
Actual rape is less than 1 in 1000 as per the Bureau of Justice statistics. (The gold star in crime statistics.)

[MzAsh]

You can cherry pick all the “facts” you want that support your narrative. The problem feminists are are making is being too soft and asking for permission for power. Power isn’t given to women by men. So I fault women and feminists for getting into a victim mentality when they should have a victor mentality.

[Opinion Owner]

Cherry pick? There is no cherry pick, they either did it or they didn't and they are outright shutting down men's rights. One example would be enough and I gave you three separate times.

Just like the 1 in 4 lie, it isn't about cherry picking. It's an outright fabrication and if they even suggest it once, then they are doing exactly what I said they were.

cherry picking would be ignoring all times feminism helped men's rights and only picking the bad times, but please find me a time when these groups did anything positive for men's rights. or even one time when they denounce the 1 in 4 lie or wage gap.

[MzAsh]

The docu The Mask You Live In was an excellent take on the burden of performance men and boys suffer to live up to a certain and impossible standard of masculinity. If you haven’t seen it, it’s great.

[Opinion Owner]

Well 1st. That isn't feminist helping men with male issues.
2nd. Emasculating males doesn't help men or society. We are not broken girls, we do things differently, we deal with emotions differently.
The young black kid says it himself... "It's like instinct" (because it IS instinct).

That whole video suggests only men do the evils of society because of "masculinity"... well, how do you explain the sick and twisted actions of females?

The standard of masculinity isn't impossible for men to reach, it's NORMAL unless you are gay or effeminate. Women simply have made society believe that it's some impossible standard because they don't understand it and don't like it and therefore it must be stopped. Just like everything else men do that women don't understand or like.

[Opinion Owner]

Girls are being taught to be "strong" and "independent", while boys are being taught that being strong and independent is dangerous.

[MzAsh]

I don’t think their efforts are emasculating at all. I think they attempt to bring back to light the concept of positive masculinity. Men and women are different, but they are both human. We have the same emotions and want and need many of the same things in life and from our life partners. I see entirely too many people who don’t understand that and try to place men and as entirely different species and it’s exactly what divides us from each other.

[Opinion Owner]

Positive masculinity is what created, advanced, and kept our civilization alive. It was the aggression, the determination, the strength, our differences from being female. Not this turn men into sniveling children crap.

Yeah, men and women are both humans, but house cats and pumas are both felines but the puma has instincts and traits that are different from the house cat, these are not things you can simply reprogram. Same applies to humans. Having the same emotions doesn't mean we deal with them the same. Women are more emotional and reach out to others to help them deal with their thoughts, men internalize and deal with things themselves. When we do need advice, we go to another dude we trust, we never go to females about stuff because women are too critical and judgmental about things they don't understand or like.

These emotional differences have been studied in length and although there is always going to be some exceptions, they are there and necessary.

[MzAsh]

I understand that but somewhere along the way, men started giving and getting really bad advice. There’s way too many men encouraging other men to “go mgtow” we even see it right on here.

As a relationship writer, I don’t give advice to men because as you said, men don’t like the advice a woman will give them. I however do give advice to women and I highly advice them to avoid these lesser type of men who have a domineering, bitter, judgmental, potentially abusive, mgtow attitude.

One male writer and relationship coach I respect and support is one by the name of James Sama. You should check him out. He is what it means to be a good man, not this mgtow nonsense.

[Opinion Owner]

Men are not encouraged to go MGTOW, men who decide to give up on women, stop providing, for, protecting, and dealing with women, and start living for themselves are not "encouraged" if anything they are shamed and attacked by society. As you yourself have stated... "these lesser type of men who have a domineering, bitter, judgmental, potentially abusive, mgtow attitude."
(Which is NOT the mentality, just a crap shaming tactic)
They do it regardless of the backlash because they are tired of the gynocentric bullshit and feminist forced crap. I myself am happily married but I agree with the MGTOW ideal. Men shouldn't be seen as disposable providers to make women's lives easier.

If your "writer" buddy tells men to be subservient to women, then he isn't a good relationship coach, he is a mule to the feminist bullshit.

[MzAsh]

Men are encouraged to go mgtow by other men who are mgtow which is not acceptable.

They (mgtow) aren’t shamed by society for living for themselves but rather for their attitude and behavior towards women.

I’ve had many exchanges with mgtow over the last 10 years or so and they generally have a pattern of entitlement, control, and trust issues. They blame their divorces on womend Hypergamy but refuse to take responsibility for their part in why their marriage failed.

Mgtow need to stay out of the market and out of the gene pool. Most should have never been there in the first place. They are ill.

James doesn’t advise men to be subservient to women... but he also doesn’t advise women to be subservient to men. Instead of feeding your suspicions and paranoia like you just did, you could read his work for yourself.

[Opinion Owner]

@MzAsh You are not a man nor will you ever be one, stop trying to suggest you have any idea what men say to other men. But if men were trying to get me to go to MGTOW, it's no different than women trying to get women into feminism. Actually, MGTOW is better since it doesn't indoctrinate young nieve children or push propaganda in the schools and media like feminism does.
Feminist hateful actions towards men are endless and disgusting, you believe MGTOW's are aggressive towards women because they don't want to be their providers, protectors, etc. But that belief in itself is disgusting. Why should men be your protectors or providers? Why do you think you deserve special treatment? MGTOW doesn't do or believe anything other than that. (Of course you will find some reddit internet troll using MGTOW to troll feminist, but the actual and only real MGTOW group doesn't do they shit and is actually quite against it. They do hate on feminism which is justified because that ideology is poison.)

[Opinion Owner]

If you want to speak of entitlement, look at western women. They are the most entitled and spoiled group of humans to ever exist.
And in regards of control, women openly try and control men, what we think and how men act, with the backing of society.
If they have trust issues it might just be because of the endless false accusations and bullshit like paternity fraud, etc.

Since women have everything to gain from divorce and nothing to lose, and women initiate the majority of divorces...
it's only logical that hypergamy is the assumption of most divorced men. Especially if women use that privilege to fuck his life and get free shit from him.

I will read "james" work and I guarantee my assumptions will be met. If at any time he suggests men should pay on dates, etc. I will be right.

Don't attempt personal attacks by calling me names simply because you don't agree with me. If you have nothing more to offer than petty schoolyard shaming tactics, there is no point in continuing.

[MzAsh]

Look at your shaming tactics, anonymous. What about those?

[Opinion Owner]

Please point them out to me, I have yet to attack you as a person.

[MzAsh]

Not me, but of women.

[MzAsh]

Admit it, you came here because you needed an excuse to attack women. Your first line was about how most women act like spoiled and crazy children. As if you know most women anyway. You don't. Then you go even further to claim that it's because there's little else out there, which is just pure bullshit. You're an anonymous 20something... what can you possibly know about what's out there in the world? Please.

THEN you go on to be so dishonest about MGTOW saying that they "live for themselves" which is also pure bullshit. Here let me prove it to you. Here's an article I wrote back in 2015.

thoughtcatalog.com/.../

I wanted to get women to think about what they have to offer in a relationship. Now read the comments. Read the hundreds of hateful, disruptive, slanderous vitriol towards myself and towards women in general.

[MzAsh]

Here's a youtube video where one MGTOW reads my article and adds his commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vXqGZVY7S4&t=345s

Read the comments there. How much do they talk about how women are good for nothing but sex?

Since writing this article, I've been stalked, harassed, and threatened by MGTOW and so now you tell me that these men live for themselves? Now they do not. They live against women. Period. There's NO excuse for their behavior. And there's NO excuse for yours.

[Lance1965]

Nah. You can put up with crazy when you are young but older you become the more the patience with that wears thin. After a while you just want normal.

[loveslongnails]

Men like to "play" with crazy bitches, but they soon regret marrying one.

[afterlongtime]

Naah I don't

Because I know I will behave like her and I can't see myself that even in dreams

[Midhat]

Yeah they like bad girls, not the boring nice girls

[Slave_man]

I like to be sweared and humilated by women. İf you like it, send message to me.

[Anonymous]

They just love to play with them but not a real stable relation in most cases. They are using them as fun objects or tools that is all.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

Oh yeah. Crazy chicks are more fun.

[rubyrose83]

The hotter the girl, the crazier she usually is

[your_ego]

so that makes you a good girl.

[your_ego]

lol.. ok i was clearly wrong

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

No, not too crazy of a woman hahahaha!!!

[NoPoliticsPlease]

I prefer them because who wants boring?

[monkeynutts]

Yeah it's a inherited trait from my father.

[Manhart1999]

No crazy bitch for me please

[shubhamchachapara]

Honestly, crazy girls found very cute

[Desuyonee]

for me, two pic are harley quinn ;DDD

[Anonymous]

I can't handle a crazy woman!

[beebella]

Yep.

[Giggletr0n]

I HATE DRAMA!

[JackalOfNar]

for sure no

[Yesnomaybe85]

No
Well
Yeah

[Anonymous]

Only for sex