It's both but we are being indoctrinated this type toxic masculinity early on, which is the actual big problem whereas being naturally less emotional is not.
See this combination (us being taught to never cry + us being less emotion) is what results us to *never* cry. We are human, yet function like robots. Beep boop! Error 404: module 'Emotions' not found. Soon we'll go as far as connecting more with female sex robots (harmony from realbotix) than with actual women if this issue keeps persisting:
I think men are much less emotional than women, hence why the go for STEM fields and harden up far more often than women.
Men, in terms of combat capability, are the superior gender (exceptions exist yes, so get off my ass social justice cucks) so we have to play the role of the protectors and conquerors. We men don't cry while watching movies or if we get embarrassed in a social situations. Crying is a sign of weakness. The truly strong (male and female alike) set aside their emotions and rely on cold, precise logic and rationality.
Control your emotions or they'll control you. You're 100% responsible for your own actions.
Emotions are nice to have to an extent so we humans can indulge in hedonism though. What else is there to do in this nihilistic existence where all purpose is simply an illusion?
We are taught so for sure If we are also less emotional at the same time is hard to say Men are perfectly capable of deep emotions for sure But I think perhaps they are not as emotional about things that they deem unimportant? I think men are just as emotional about the things they care deeply about as women are But it is really hard to say... I think men are less emotional in their every day lives but is this their natural state or a result of long term suppression of emotions? If you condition yourself towards feeling less you may eventually actually feel less That being said men are more emotional than is often assumed men just do not express it because it is most often frowned upon particularly emotions in the sad/hurt/depressed vein... a woman crying elicits sympathy a man crying elicits scorn
My Granada was a Commando I always looked up to him I never saw him show any tears we saw if he was happy but never any anger strongest his language got was "Damn My" so I never cried for years and just recently I have been suffering with being weepy all the time for no reason and I can't stop it but was told growing up big boys don't cry your a big boy now so you can't cry but like I said seems like all the grief and problems in my life have caught up with me
I mean "don't be a pussy" was the lasting matto from my adults as a child. Pussy replaced with fag at times, but the meaning was the same. I'd say we have the same emotional responses as those pussies and fags... we just don't place as much validation on feelings and tend to make our calls/judgements on observable facts instead. That's the only long term effect I've seen from it.
@somewheresomeway Sarcasm taken and yeah, it is what it is, a once upon a time normal treatment of a child which currently is frowned upon. ... and, has become too crass to even be on T. V. while other things like a couple laying in bed together has become accepted. Times has changed... meh. To the point though --> But it did achieve a certain goal or I'd rather say a certain education. What would usually take a law or science degree to teach some young adults, it was thought to a child through this... to be objective. By denying us the right to act like a 'bitch', we simply removed that from our day to day behaviors...
There was a double standard between the genders when it came to that though. Current year, it seems that the 'new standard' for male behavior is that we should be more like Suzy. She's well behaved, sits still in class, and doesn't want to run around. Ignore that you're a boy, be more like her.
Alcohol, video games, suicide... we are finding our escape from this.
Or if you're privileged enough... play dress up like the metro guy in the picture you used... it's like being straight but not really. We all know a guy like this. They think highly of themselves and are perplexed as to why most of us dudes are poking fun at them.
See... he just doesn't understand that we think playing dress up is for girls.
Not trying to be a dick with my last two posts... just trying to expose the upbringing and results of any such upbringings. Find 10 random dudes that grew up with single Mothers and 10 with Dads at home... starch differences between them become blatant when viewed side by side. Seems there is generational changes as well.
But hell... teaching your kid to properly decapitate a man with a blade seems weird to me... but was once the normie thing to do. I won't judge them for what enabled them to succeed where so many others failed and no longer have any genetic legacy at all.
Dudes raised my single mothers can go one way or another. Some of them look for father figures in douchebags like gangster rappers and end up in jail. Others get ultra feminized and soft.
The worse case scenario is when a boy is raised in two parent family where the mother wears the pants. He thinks that a whipped man is what women want.
My family was SEMI like this (although my dad brought home the bacon). But feminism is pushing for that shit and it’s bad all around.
@somewheresomeway Yeah you brought to light an aspect I forgot to. The wrong "Dad" at home can equal some bullshit too. Also yeah, if not some gangsta rapper it'll be some bullshit dude or friend that is also a child (or dude molesting him) that becomes the Daddy.
There's a reason everyone seems to be reaching out for a knowledge figure like Jordan Peterson to tell them how to get through this bullshit that is called a life. Dad is absent... sometimes even if he's there, other times... just wasn't a great example to follow.
Women are more emotional, but I do think that a lot of men are taught to not show there emotions. Their parents are not the only ones who make them think like that though. Some girlfriends do it too, then they wonder why the are not opening up to them. It's really not good and people should just realize that guys have emotions too and that it's ok to for them to show their emotions.
I don't think that men and women are wired the same at all. Women think different than men. Women have their emotions very close to the surface whereas we men have layers built on top of our emotions. Our upbringing is to man-up and be tough, which just adds to keeping the emotions buried.
i'm pretty sure men can be just as emotional as women because we have feelings and they do get hurt sometimes, it's just that men would try to hide it so they don't show the weak side of them. there are some men that do cry and would cry hard during a break up.
See I don't know. I have a feeling it is socialisations since my father, who's never been fond of listening or following social protocol will openly cry in public and in front of us. My mother on the other hand i've actually never seen cry because she expresses sadness through anger, largely due to her upbringing.
I think its a little more complicated than that. A lot of it can just be an emotional mindset. Stereotypically men are "suppose to be tougher" and show their strength and what not, but I dont think its necessarily taught, but maybe inherited from earlier generations. I personally am just a complex guy and I dont like to show my emotions because I dont want to be judged over them. So il bottle everything up and just be a grumpy bastard for a few hours
Some girls are also taught not to cry yet I realized it was a natural thing and yelled at my parents when I was little for forcing me to go against something that other people deemed was perfectly natural because we were human beings. Parents and men should understand that crying is NATURAL. Don't teach your child not to cry, or they will be ashamed when they do like I am today.
They are taught to hide their emotions, the Acceptable Emotion for a Man is Anger... Sadly, that's what boys are raised to believe, then they get with us females and we want different... Being a 46 year old woman I do struggle with "Sensitive" Men because females from my generation were also taught a Real Man doesn't Show and Express his Feelings. I feel for Men you are in Catch 22, damned if you do damned if you don't!!!
It's a combination of taught behaviours and natural disposition. Men communicate primarily on raw facts and events. Women communicate primarily on how they feel about facts or events and how they impacted them. It's a subtle difference that makes a big impact on how people carry themselves
Ever seen your dad bursting out with tears? No, thats the defination of man, u are man, head of the family/ or would be, if u are torn emotionally into pieces how badly it will impact your family? No man must not show his sadness , shuold not cry , at least not in front of others
Taught to "Man up" and "boys don't cry" that's ridiculous. Men are human too. I'm a woman and don't cry in public (Unless I can't contain it), not because I'm worried of what people will think etc, but because I like to be more private. Doesn't make me weak if I do it in public, though. Just means I'm alive and with emotions/feelings.
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we can't express ourselves at least not in person
unless you are me and got nothing to lose cause you got nothing to being with
tears :( men are less emotional but we do have emotions
but you know feminism and the satanic government makes me speak out more and makes other bitch men stay quiet
BUT FUCK THAT they deserved to be killed
we got Obama the gay president who's wife has a dick now we have Mr, Wig as president
with a prostitute as a wife and his daughter who looks like the next robotic sex machine for men that will be released in 2020
basically what im saying is fuck what people say but gotta go pre-order my sex bot so bye
Men generally tend to be less emotional than women, and this is in a big part due to a difference in the proportions of hormones that their gonads produce: mostly testosterone in men, and estrogen in women. on to pof that, a lot of societies reinforce these behaviors.
Hey, just so you know I'd cry sometiems over being failed in a relationship, or ditched by girls, or even being refused. It upset me for a few days actually. The longest for me - I think it was last November - cried for 4 hours after this girl thought I was stalking her but I didn't. I liked her and wanted to establish a relationship with her but she was playing hard to get then trying to tell everyone I was a stalker. Now that sounds bitchy.
Men are taught to man up... but you also must keep in mind men process their emotions and problems differently, so crying doesn't have the same effect with men as it does women. Additionally personal opinion here, crying solves nothing, and only causes physical pain and sinus issues in me so I have a second reason for not crying.
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It's both but we are being indoctrinated this type toxic masculinity early on, which is the actual big problem whereas being naturally less emotional is not.
See this combination (us being taught to never cry + us being less emotion) is what results us to *never* cry. We are human, yet function like robots. Beep boop! Error 404: module 'Emotions' not found.
Soon we'll go as far as connecting more with female sex robots (harmony from realbotix) than with actual women if this issue keeps persisting:
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I think men are much less emotional than women, hence why the go for STEM fields and harden up far more often than women.
Men, in terms of combat capability, are the superior gender (exceptions exist yes, so get off my ass social justice cucks) so we have to play the role of the protectors and conquerors. We men don't cry while watching movies or if we get embarrassed in a social situations. Crying is a sign of weakness. The truly strong (male and female alike) set aside their emotions and rely on cold, precise logic and rationality.
Control your emotions or they'll control you. You're 100% responsible for your own actions.
Emotions are nice to have to an extent so we humans can indulge in hedonism though. What else is there to do in this nihilistic existence where all purpose is simply an illusion?
We are taught so for sure
If we are also less emotional at the same time is hard to say
Men are perfectly capable of deep emotions for sure But I think perhaps they are not as emotional about things that they deem unimportant? I think men are just as emotional about the things they care deeply about as women are
But it is really hard to say...
I think men are less emotional in their every day lives but is this their natural state or a result of long term suppression of emotions? If you condition yourself towards feeling less you may eventually actually feel less
That being said men are more emotional than is often assumed men just do not express it because it is most often frowned upon particularly emotions in the sad/hurt/depressed vein... a woman crying elicits sympathy a man crying elicits scorn
My Granada was a Commando I always looked up to him I never saw him show any tears we saw if he was happy but never any anger strongest his language got was "Damn My" so I never cried for years and just recently I have been suffering with being weepy all the time for no reason and I can't stop it but was told growing up big boys don't cry your a big boy now so you can't cry but like I said seems like all the grief and problems in my life have caught up with me
Consider this...
A man's world is driven more by logic whereas a woman's world is driven more by emotions.
This is the main reason men and women can't understand some of the things the opposite sex thinks, says and does.
And it is amazing we can get along with each other long enough to pro-create! lol
I mean "don't be a pussy" was the lasting matto from my adults as a child. Pussy replaced with fag at times, but the meaning was the same. I'd say we have the same emotional responses as those pussies and fags... we just don't place as much validation on feelings and tend to make our calls/judgements on observable facts instead. That's the only long term effect I've seen from it.
You had good parents.
@somewheresomeway Sarcasm taken and yeah, it is what it is, a once upon a time normal treatment of a child which currently is frowned upon. ... and, has become too crass to even be on T. V. while other things like a couple laying in bed together has become accepted. Times has changed... meh. To the point though --> But it did achieve a certain goal or I'd rather say a certain education. What would usually take a law or science degree to teach some young adults, it was thought to a child through this... to be objective. By denying us the right to act like a 'bitch', we simply removed that from our day to day behaviors...
There was a double standard between the genders when it came to that though. Current year, it seems that the 'new standard' for male behavior is that we should be more like Suzy. She's well behaved, sits still in class, and doesn't want to run around. Ignore that you're a boy, be more like her.
Alcohol, video games, suicide... we are finding our escape from this.
Or if you're privileged enough... play dress up like the metro guy in the picture you used... it's like being straight but not really. We all know a guy like this. They think highly of themselves and are perplexed as to why most of us dudes are poking fun at them.
See... he just doesn't understand that we think playing dress up is for girls.
Not trying to be a dick with my last two posts... just trying to expose the upbringing and results of any such upbringings. Find 10 random dudes that grew up with single Mothers and 10 with Dads at home... starch differences between them become blatant when viewed side by side. Seems there is generational changes as well.
But hell... teaching your kid to properly decapitate a man with a blade seems weird to me... but was once the normie thing to do. I won't judge them for what enabled them to succeed where so many others failed and no longer have any genetic legacy at all.
Dudes raised my single mothers can go one way or another. Some of them look for father figures in douchebags like gangster rappers and end up in jail. Others get ultra feminized and soft.
The worse case scenario is when a boy is raised in two parent family where the mother wears the pants. He thinks that a whipped man is what women want.
My family was SEMI like this (although my dad brought home the bacon). But feminism is pushing for that shit and it’s bad all around.
@somewheresomeway Yeah you brought to light an aspect I forgot to. The wrong "Dad" at home can equal some bullshit too. Also yeah, if not some gangsta rapper it'll be some bullshit dude or friend that is also a child (or dude molesting him) that becomes the Daddy.
There's a reason everyone seems to be reaching out for a knowledge figure like Jordan Peterson to tell them how to get through this bullshit that is called a life. Dad is absent... sometimes even if he's there, other times... just wasn't a great example to follow.
Women are more emotional, but I do think that a lot of men are taught to not show there emotions. Their parents are not the only ones who make them think like that though. Some girlfriends do it too, then they wonder why the are not opening up to them. It's really not good and people should just realize that guys have emotions too and that it's ok to for them to show their emotions.
I don't think that men and women are wired the same at all.
Women think different than men.
Women have their emotions very close to the surface whereas we men have layers built on top of our emotions.
Our upbringing is to man-up and be tough, which just adds to keeping the emotions buried.
i'm pretty sure men can be just as emotional as women because we have feelings and they do get hurt sometimes, it's just that men would try to hide it so they don't show the weak side of them. there are some men that do cry and would cry hard during a break up.
See I don't know. I have a feeling it is socialisations since my father, who's never been fond of listening or following social protocol will openly cry in public and in front of us. My mother on the other hand i've actually never seen cry because she expresses sadness through anger, largely due to her upbringing.
I think its a little more complicated than that. A lot of it can just be an emotional mindset. Stereotypically men are "suppose to be tougher" and show their strength and what not, but I dont think its necessarily taught, but maybe inherited from earlier generations. I personally am just a complex guy and I dont like to show my emotions because I dont want to be judged over them. So il bottle everything up and just be a grumpy bastard for a few hours
Some girls are also taught not to cry yet I realized it was a natural thing and yelled at my parents when I was little for forcing me to go against something that other people deemed was perfectly natural because we were human beings. Parents and men should understand that crying is NATURAL. Don't teach your child not to cry, or they will be ashamed when they do like I am today.
They are taught to hide their emotions, the Acceptable Emotion for a Man is Anger... Sadly, that's what boys are raised to believe, then they get with us females and we want different... Being a 46 year old woman I do struggle with "Sensitive" Men because females from my generation were also taught a Real Man doesn't Show and Express his Feelings. I feel for Men you are in Catch 22, damned if you do damned if you don't!!!
It's a combination of taught behaviours and natural disposition.
Men communicate primarily on raw facts and events.
Women communicate primarily on how they feel about facts or events and how they impacted them.
It's a subtle difference that makes a big impact on how people carry themselves
Ever seen your dad bursting out with tears? No, thats the defination of man, u are man, head of the family/ or would be, if u are torn emotionally into pieces how badly it will impact your family? No man must not show his sadness , shuold not cry , at least not in front of others
Taught to "Man up" and "boys don't cry" that's ridiculous. Men are human too. I'm a woman and don't cry in public (Unless I can't contain it), not because I'm worried of what people will think etc, but because I like to be more private. Doesn't make me weak if I do it in public, though. Just means I'm alive and with emotions/feelings.
we can't express ourselves
at least not in person
unless you are me and got nothing to lose
cause you got nothing to being with
tears :(
men are less emotional
but we do have emotions
but you know feminism and the satanic government
makes me speak out more
and makes other bitch men stay quiet
BUT FUCK THAT
they deserved to be killed
we got Obama the gay president who's wife has a dick
now we have Mr, Wig as president
with a prostitute as a wife
and his daughter who looks like the next robotic sex machine for men
that will be released in 2020
basically what im saying is fuck what people say
but gotta go pre-order my sex bot so bye
It's a little bit of both.
Men generally tend to be less emotional than women, and this is in a big part due to a difference in the proportions of hormones that their gonads produce: mostly testosterone in men, and estrogen in women. on to pof that, a lot of societies reinforce these behaviors.
Hey, just so you know I'd cry sometiems over being failed in a relationship, or ditched by girls, or even being refused. It upset me for a few days actually. The longest for me - I think it was last November - cried for 4 hours after this girl thought I was stalking her but I didn't. I liked her and wanted to establish a relationship with her but she was playing hard to get then trying to tell everyone I was a stalker. Now that sounds bitchy.
Men are taught to man up... but you also must keep in mind men process their emotions and problems differently, so crying doesn't have the same effect with men as it does women. Additionally personal opinion here, crying solves nothing, and only causes physical pain and sinus issues in me so I have a second reason for not crying.