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I dont mind low maintenance guys or with a casual style. I mean casual style and comfort is more important as long as the person looks clean.
I honestly dont understand what's wrong?
What happened is that your generation did not educate their kids properly.
The only reason men would change anything is because women changed first so we adapt
"Clean shaven, nice haircut, crisp white shirt, a tie, jacket and shined leather shoes."
Your standards are literally higher than my job interviews.. lol..
Fist bump my bro đđ i could really say the same.
@Unit1 Heh, yeah, these women on this website have absurd standards.
So just because she cares about appearance, does that mean, that all women care about men's looks?
Anyway my job interview was easy. Much easier than dating women.
Can i speak English? Fluent. It wasn't even needed as i have coworkers, who don't even speak English past beginner level.
Do i have some testing experience? Yeah, hobby like i did at home with some personal projects. Something else at my previous job.
I mentioned i was currently interested in working with multi media.
My degree? In 7 months i will get my associates degree.
And i was hired weeks later. Easy.
Shined leather shoes đ
Whats the point/incentive? To quote Dave Chappelle "If a man can fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house." Gotta give to get sweetie. Women just aren't impressive these days.
lol yeah the younger generation of women have the superficial stuff dead on, it's EVERYTHING ELSE they are lacking
why would a man even put any effort?
Let me get this straight... you think men from the hippy generation looked SHARP? Or maybe you meant leisure suits?
Honestly, women have changed. Why must men remain the same if women have changed so much since then? That type of date is dead now.
Im glad this isn't pointed at me, I take good care of myself and dress to impress 😋
But I agree, some guys need to step up their game. They act and dress like they are in elemenary school...
Leave men alone we have no benefits in any relationship so we come as we are no pretending. Why do we need to impress a woman who has most likely slept with every guy in town? The entitlement of you thots or western women is insane
single motherhood + shaming&purposefully destroying masculinity + no male role models
That's a good question but really I am so thankful that you even asked this question. Its pitiful what goes on today, but it should be made aware to younger generations
"Why she was even out with him."
None of your damn business. lol. Unless it's about you, then don't worry about the next person.
Well, social media I guess.
Social media ruins both men and women. Itâs ridiculous.
They have grown up with little guidance from father figures in their lifeâs. And the parents didnât take the time or had the time to âmessâ with them. Family values were pushed to the side when both parents had to work and what extra time they had went into their selfs.
right. what about womens promiscuity? and did u forget that 3rd wave feminism happend?
This happened.
https://youtu.be/vpP90E_BoxsIs this male or female? I can't tell.
Feminism has poisoned society and emasculated males.
They have used media and their bullying tactics to strong arm any male'ness out of society.
Well Rhonda, this seems to be stereotyping. Since when does this guy represent the all the men in the world? I mean, there are 3.5 billion men in the world, and you assume that if one man looks shabby, all men look shabby?
Redthread sends up red flags that he must live like a slob and takes no pride in his appearance girls. LOL
I blame Jimmy Buffet and Mark Benioff (CEO of Salesforce). Donât worry, dressing up is making a comeback.
You tell me I've never been one?
What do you want to tell us?
@Finni asking the author
I think I have made the case pretty clear- and from a unique perspective I might add.
Don't want to offend the lady but your views getting outdated & I hope they will be erased together with your generation which worked so hard gg or do long to brainwash their sons. Kind regards & best of luck.
I fully agree with you. But one of the many reasons that young men don't put work into their looks is because they think women will think he's a "nice guy" and will reject him.
1. Random sample (s) do not apply to an entire gender.
2. I, for one, never try to apply my standards to the choices of others because it is none of my business.
Nothing happened to us.. There are a hand full of men out there that just dont care any more.. Trust me they are in the minority.
I could also say the same about women..
Men will ALWAYS be assholes. Either you're willing to compromise or remain single, independent, free and with your own mind.
Not all Men will be assholes you stuck up bitch.
lol future entitled radical feminist nutjob detected.
U dono why he was like that though, buddy could have just gotten off work making ched and called up his girl otw yo scoop her for dinner reservations in 20.. lol clearly she was with him for a reason. Swear people judge everyone these days.
When I appeared in a restaurant wearing a suit and tie with my girlfriend some people looked at me awkwardly like what the heck is he wearing or he's overdressed for a date.
No, you are setting the example. Be proud of that.
I'm sorry I couldn't answer the replay I was traveling... thanks for your understanding... For me when go out with a girl I have to let out my inner gentleman
It's called being comfortable. Do you even know these people? More so than likely this guy has already been going out with this girl. Stop worrying about it. Nobody needs to wear a fancy suit and an oversized dress on a date anymore.
Comfort? Maybe he would be more comfortable in his underwear.
If he was at home about to get laid then probably.
Im old school if i take a girl out im suited out, and i wine and dine her. But your right modern dating has changed its not really the norm anymore
And I bet you sometimes regret wining and dining them huh?
No, i pick them carefully. You dont do it for just anyone, or for a casual fling. But for the right girl its worth the effort
Iâll do it down the road. But Iâll never do that on a first or second date. Learned a hard lesson on that shit.
I guess for me I do like to dress up anytime I go out. Iâm not sure whatâs really going on with this generation.
Oh shut the fuck up with that sorta talk ya snob. Ya wanna be shallow and judge by appearance, you are free to do so, but I already know many guys are gonna say the same as me and arguably harsher. PLENTY of women do the same shit. STFU already and don't tell us what to do! You DESERVE all the dissing comments you got. Hopefully you'll think before ya post next time judgy ass snob.
And I saw that you are trans. This saddens me as you should know how many people want you DEAD just for that? A LOT. A lot think you are delusional, retarded, mentally ill, etc. You are SUPER judged just being who you are so now ya gonna go around judging other people? Listen, I get that you have to work your ASS off to look like a women so people DON'T judge you, but that doesn't mean non trans people do as well. You are asking men this? Don't you KNOW what it feels like to be looked as a man? Weren't you treated as a guy BEFORE surgery or whatever? YOU of all people should KNOW this already snobby ass prick. If people bash you being trans, for anyone else, I'm against it, but for YOU? YOU deserve it!
Yes I am trans. But as a guy or a girl I worked very hard on my appearance to be well groomed, well clothed, and physically fit. And yes people do judge you on your appearance - in the case of trans even more so. So I have very little patience with people who don't bother with their appearance.
Haven't you got anything better to be thinking about?
Well I can only speak for myself and I overdress all the time. I always try to be the best looking in the room no matter where I am
Can honestly say I've been guilty of this. Think the issue is more people use the term "hangout" rather than "date" these days. I mean you don't get dressed up to hangout with your friends, so why would you get dressed up to hangout with a girl.
Nothing happened to guys... itâs the guys you pick realistically.
@Rhonda333. Never seen so many responses to one question. I agree with you.
Girl, shut the fuck up. Just because those men are your type doesnât mean theyâre everyoneâs type.
So true like they didn't less around they manned up and asked the girl out as well
Feminists. Men are finished. More and more young men are failing while women are succeeding. But when it comes time to die in wars they'll send all of us.
Let me guess... you're also going to complain that guys don't always pay for your dinner too, right? Mmm hmm.
We are living in a more casual period. The Edwardian era of dressing for events wore off over the past few decades--especially since the 60s.
Lmao? This is exactly how it should be. Dressing up is useless.
Women happened 🤷🏻ââď¸ fuckin feminists are to blame
So, what you're saying is, that women are to be blamed for everything because they want equal pay, be treated the same as men and not be sexually harassed at work?
This is what you do! Go to your mom or any mother figure and say that to them, and let us know what the answer you get from them. I'll be waiting.
I going to forgive your sexist comment based on you're only a 19-year-old kid!
@Deve77 The feminism I know is all about equality of outcome only when it favors women, teaches masculinity is toxic, women of all shape and size are beautiful, encourages women to be sluts, abortion is good, and so on.
Every group has extremists. It is irresistible to blame one thing only a few will do.
That said, give me one example of what you claim.
@Deve77 Why do you think women aren't paid equally?-part of my example.
An average woman gets paid $0.77 to a $1.00 for every man. This is a fact! Look it up!!!
@Deve77 I know OP did not talk about feminism but on your point of treating women equally to men...
DO you think women should be charged for cover into clubs just as much as men? I mean, some clubs don't charge women.
@Deve77 Yeah, do you know how much harder men work than women? They work longer hours, more overtime, and have harder/ higher paying jobs in general.
It's illegal to pay people differently based on gender. If it wasn't companies would ONLY HIRE WOMEN, because they can save 33% costs for labor.
See the absurd lies they're spreading?
What does getting into clubs have to do with gender equality? That is a private company giving one group free admission. The other is an overall pay.
And for your information, men do not work harder than women.
Reading your answers tells me you are intimidated by strong women.
@Deve77 Dude, it's all bullshit, you're just being a mangina.
Look at this feminist article that was originally titled, "Women Work Longer Hours Than Men." Read the first couple of paragraphs, and it'll be apparent that men do work longer and harder than women, they just try to spin it any way possible just to make it seem like women are discriminated against in the workplace.
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../...k-longer-hours-men.html
Whatever dude. It's apparent trying to explain to is more than I'm willing to do.
Although I would like to know if you ever shared your beliefs to any woman in your life? I do suggest you share this with them. Let me know what they say.
@Deve77 What beliefs? I'm just voicing facts. Find me a source that says women work equal or more hours than men, equal or more overtime, and have more or equally ludicrous jobs.
Those aren't facts! This is the last this I'm adding to this!
@Deve77 Prove otherwise. Oh wait, you can't.
No point!
@Deve77 There is a point but it doesn't serve you so you won't make an attempt.
Just check the census report in your region. You'll get you proof!
@Deve77 Alright, US census that goes until 2009.
www.census.gov/.../women_workforce_slides.pdf
Median pay ratio... Women 0.77 : 1 Men. So that's where that figure came from?
Okay, now lets see... Median hours worked ratio Women 0.88 : 1 Men.
And on the last page:
70% of women work less than 40 hours while 50% of men work 40 or more hours.
Sooo... Are you gonna continue to deny that men work longer? And don't you think that'd be the main cause of why men and women aren't paid the same? The "wage gap" doesn't adjust for type of job or hours worked, you know? It's just lumping every single job together.
What if she was out to eat with her brother? Maybe it wasn't a date?
A generation ago young men weren't dating women who had already had 10 sex partners, either.
1 guys does it and every guy in existence must do it? Do you think that every guy in existence does this because one guy does it?
Not all men are like this so dont categorize all guys as one group of disrespectful men who are assholes that dont give a fuck about how to treat a lady because that guy is an dick who needs to learn but just dont categorize us as all pigs.
Definitely younger guys youâre talking about, I would never go on a date looking like that even if it was casual, sounds like he just got back from the beach. I may not go in a suit but I wonât look like I donât belong
I mean.. Society turned on us in a pretty ugly way. Masculinity has been under attack for decades. No, younger men don't really have any sense of what it is to be a man anymore. Thank feminism. This is the utopia they wanted.
I notice that all the time too. It seems not many guys put much effort in these days.
Maybe we started thinking that appearance is far from what there is to look for.
The difference with old generation is that women were worth it 😉
Culture changes. People want different things now, it's not just our fault.
Internet is what happened apps like tinder have made women more accessible without having to put a lot of effort into it.
I agree with you on this I'm the generation behind you and I do look good but I don't like the whole suite thing I just don't get this new generation
Liberalism, that's what happened.
Aren't men supposed to be men, not caring about fashion and looking "pretty"?
at some point we realized it's just not worth it anymore. Girls are playing too many games and we get tired of going along for the ride.
Lol cause he's prepared for that car sex afterwards