it is not Men's fault. the society pushes these 'unnatural' standards to them as their 'natural' nature. femininity exists in men, so the masculinity in women. But does that mean that women can be masculine and men can be feminine? no.
first, there is a misunderstanding of femininity and masculinity in today's world made by feminism. both their images are shown and advocated as their extremes. but what does that mean? imagine it this way, imagine femininity and masculinity as two poles in a magnet. both are needed to create a field and attraction. now, both of these poles exist in both men and women. But, in women S being weaker leaning towards N and in men N being weaker leaning towards S. S is femininity in women and N is masculinity. that being said, that means very simply, Women have a stronger perception of masculinity and so sense of detecting masculinity and men a stronger perception of femininity and so detecting femininity as they 'need' these traits for completing the making of the magnetic field. and what does that mean again? it means men and women mutually naturally learn each other 'how' to be a man and how to be a woman with their stronger perception of the nature of each other.
That being said, otherwise, what will happen? the masculinity in men will lean towards femininity and to gain that balance they will become psychologically and even physically (hormonal) more feminine. and so women will lean towards their N and become more masculine psychologically and again physically, because physically there will be always hormonal changes with changing mentality as hormonal changes can change mentality.
This is what is happening in our society. a misleading of a magnetic field. very simple. with separating the genders from each other, keeping both genders from gaining an understanding from their own gender 'by' the opposite gender. And in a future society these Ns leaning towards S and S leaning towards N will make more N get confused about S...
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Because feminism told them there is little difference between the sexes. Because it told them being a leader in a relationship is always the same as being an abusive sociopath. Because it told them that they will be mocked, condemned and shamed if they act manly. The bit that is not condemned is turned into a parody of what a man is. Their sexuality is demonised, female put on a pedestal. Because feminism turned women into these annoying harpies who all behave like they want to have a penis, forgetting all manner of womanly virtue and feelings. Women who use to make them better, are now stupid, emotional dudes with vaginas. Because half of them don't have a male role model, and if they do, most of those are emasculated as well.
Their purpose of provider and protector has been stolen from them and is being half-assed by women all around the world, leaving them to pick up the slack anyway, only now for less credit. Why in the world would they not feel apathetic towards life?
We women failed for creating feminism and men have failed for letting it happen.
It was a huge mistake, it needs to go.
I know people always talk about this on the Internet, but in real life I find no shortage of masculine guys to date. Like I thought chivalry was supposed to be dying out, but no guy I've been out with has ever not held the door for me, insisted on paying on the first date, lent me a coat when it's cold, walked me to my car, asked me to text when I'm home safe., etc. It's like they all read the same manual or something; they're not shy about making first moves either, and weren't whiny, lazy, unsuccessful, or anything. So, I don't know where people are finding these other guys. Or maybe I just don't register those guys as potential partners.
First of all, fcuk you.
Second of all, who died and made you the authority and definition police of what it means to be a man?
Third, unless all these men are getting a sex change operation done, then they can come back and show you a physician's report that they are in fact still a man - the so-called "real man" certification.
So, nothing has actually happened to "men" being "men."
If you want something from other people who happen to be men, so that you don't have to do it yourself, then just come out and say that (so that society can rightfully sh*t on your soul and pass correct judgment upon you). But, don't try and engage in this 12-year-old high school girl manipulation tactic of putting someone's sexual identity and personal identity into question unless they satisfy the requirements of your self-serving definition you put before them... especially if you're not even part of that gender lol
If men want your opinion on how to live their life and and guidance on the existential question of what it means to be a human man in this world, I'm sure they'll come ask you the way all those other men have been coming around to ask you thus far.
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Feminism. The Nanny-State. Men having their hands tied behind their backs and being told that defending themselves is wrong, that being aggressive is wrong, that No means No, to respect women or get arrested for Harassment.
A lot of reasons actually. I suspect most women don't really feel that way and that this feminist-driven propaganda is being imposed by a minority. This explains why "alphas" get all the women, why chicks only like "assholes" so on and so forth. Meanwhile all the lazy, whiny, ambition-less guys are simply a product of feminized society. Can't really blame them; they're just following the rules.
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Ah, yet another person enforcing gender roles just because their parents told them that was the "right" way, instead of learning to think on their own and realizing that human behavior is diverse, and the polarity of masculinity and femininity are just nonsensical abstractions. Generalization based on gender is an error, none of your claims matter on the level of an individual.
That, and if you truly want to adhere to your claim, you should probably get back to birthing kids and being a house-slave. We won't stop you if that's all you think you're worthwhile for. Albeit it's a waste of feminism's efforts, but sure, go ahead and squander it all.Because women don't want to be hit on and asked out.
More accurately, women don't want to be hit on my the overwhelming majority of males. This is a friendly reminder that for every male that a girl wants to approach her, there's a dozen that she wants nothing to do with. Is it manly to be the guy who hits on her, despite obvious signals not to? That's more like shooting yourself in the foot- yeah, it takes balls, but in the end it's just really stupid.
Not to mention, what happened to the standards for women? How did we get from something classy like dancing to something trashy like grinding (or worse, twerking)? I learned how to stitch up my clothing, what's with women being unable to sew? I learned to grill meats, why can't so many women fix a simple soup, or bake something from scratch? Despite all this, why are young women's standards higher than ever before? Why do modern women have such a problem with commitment to a good catch (I know he's smart, cute, and well-off, but is he the BEST I can do?) Why has basic diet and exercise been forsaken (not only women, but all of America)? Do I really want to ask out a girl who's had more sexual partners than dates? And most importantly, why would I ever ask out a girl who has to deign to give me the time of day?I want to second @inamorata, @Zina99, @wölfin-fräulein, @SteelMagnum, @ThatBritishLad, and @Pariah_Dog.
Also, lest we forget: excess estrogen.
For women, excess estrogen brings with it a greater risk of obesity, depression, and timidity. Obesity lowers attractiveness, which inspires fewer men to approach, so men turn their attention to an ever-shrinking dating pool of women, which brings tougher competition from other men, which results in the self-esteem of more men getting damaged more often. Depression lowers attractivess, so it has the same effect as obesity, except that it also produces more relationship problems by causing more arguments, helplessness, and damage to men's self-esteem (i. e., they don't feel man enough to make their woman happy). Greater timidity inhibits women from joining men in having fun, so men have to give constant pep talks, which makes men have a worse time, which lowers the appeal men see in women.
For men, excess estrogen brings with it a greater risk of obesity, depression, timidity, loss of muscle tone, shrinking testes, fatigue, lower energy levels, poor memory, less stress tolerance, and erectile dysfunction. Again we see obesity, depression, and timidity playing a role, which just compounds on the problems mentioned before. The loss of muscle tone, shrinking testes, and erectile dysfunction, certainly don't help men feel confident about themselves, especially as women have begun shouting for "REAL men". The poor memory has caused them more trouble in getting a high education, which doesn't help their self-esteem any. Their lower stress tolerance, combined with millions of women thinking that being an asshole is the same thing as being hard to get, doesn't inspire men to approach except by indirect means, such as trying to become their friend first, but then they get lambasted for being Nice Guys (tm).I think the QA's statement is generalizing a bit far, but in some ways she's right.
I would say that generation X Y and Z have been brought up under much different societal transformations than ones prior. Men of this generation might fear asking women out because of the messages they've been brought up with. Super strict sexual harassment policies in school and the work place that do not distinguish the difference between flirting and sexual harassment. Most sensible men don't want to be sex pests, and if you teach them that flirting could get them in trouble and destroy their reputation, they're not likely to take those risks. Then you have feminist care takers of young children who demonize rough and tumble play, and try to get the boys to behave and play more like little girls. Many fail to realize boys and girls are way different, regardless what gender roles you push or don't push onto them. Then there's all the women's organizations who's sole purpose is to focus on advancing women in academics only. This is why we are seeing more women making the honor role, getting scholarships, valedictorians, and and have an overall lower drop-out rate than men. This generation will see more wives being the breadwinner of the family. I'm not saying that advancing women in society is a bad thing. But it is when you flat-out disregard the other half the population, as it impacts them negatively.You are tapping into a new subject... one which I have addressed here and since many other GaGers have copied. The subject is more about the changing landscape between men and women as women achieve equality. Writers and sociologists in very recent times have begun to notice and books like "Manning Up" by Kay Hymowitz and "Man Down" by Don Abrams have begun to appear on bookshelves and at Amazon. Hymowitz writes about some of the duplicity women want and why men dislike it while Abrams writes about why women make better employees and managers.
Some the arguments these authors make are simple and straightforward and others are complicated. I will use Manning Up. Hymowitz writes that a lot of men in their 20's and 30's are fed up. Women have and are achieving equality. They are in organized sports, in the gym, the boardroom and they choose careers in law, business and medicine and run for the President of the United States. There are more females than males enrolled in colleges and universities located in cities. Yet when it comes to romance women aren't so sure they want equality. Men look at the situation and say to themselves I am supposed to make eye contact, then approach, strike up a conversation, ask for a phone number, ask and pay for the first date, lean over for the first kiss, ask for the second date, take the lead on sex, be dominant in the bedroom, buy the first present, ask her to be my GF, buy a ring and get down on one knee, all while women demand equality... like WTF? (And yes I know women ask men out, but let's keep it mainstream.)
There are more complicated arguments about women being financially independent and feeling they can put men through more picky "shit tests" than ever before. It's no accident that sites like Men Going Their Own Way, Nomarriage. com, and EternalBachelor. com have popped up. Male bloggers on these sites are particularly caustic... to say the least.
I am out of space here, BUT you are on to a mega-trend... for sure!I can't speak for any but myself, but I think that I am still, a "MAN". I don't know if I understand, or ever will, all the facets of 'feminism' or what 'women want'.
Chris Rock said, when asked what women want, "EVERYTHING!!!"
I can't do that, and nobody can! I ADORE women, and I think that they are AMAZING in every way!!! Even when they confuse me to the point of yelling in utter frustration, I cannot help but ADORE them!!
I love how they smell, their PATHOLOGICAL ADDICTION to their appearance, though I would think that they are BEAUTIFUL in yesterday's wrinkled dress and no make up at all!!
I open doors, and I offer my hand, even though some don't take it, or seem offended.
It isn't that I think you are weak, or inferior, or anything like that!!
What I learned, from my dad, my grandfather, and The Classics, is Honor, and Respect! With a touch of ADORATION, maybe!
I Honestly believe that women could probably live, just fine, without guys, being happy, chubby smiling people, eating chocolates every day without a care!!
But there is still something, in you, in us, that makes us NEED each other.
I don't think that she is a 'princess' but more like my companion, and the little things I do, taking her hand, opening doors, bringing her flowers or cooking her an amazing dinner with an amazing wine, are all special gifts, and offerings of respect, and adoration, for her, my beloved. . .www.gfemspeaks.com/.../...pload_64913730_large.jpg
Feminism happened.
Feminism lead to a tremendous increase in divorce, unwed parents, and women raising boys without a strong (or often any) male role model. Feminism influenced society's view that men should not "act like men" because that directly victimized all women. Women wanted men to "have feelings" and "share" and "be sensitive", and now, they've gotten their wish.
Fortunately, some of us men figured all that out and learned that we could be decent human beings without giving up our manhood and maleness, though that still offends the more radical feminists.So being feminine means to be lazy, whiny, have no ambition, etc. Quite interesting as most people don't attribute being feminine to those characteristics.
I see just as many lazy whiny girls as men. This is not gender specific. We have masculine women as well flaunting this "I don't need a man" attitude. Some people just prefer to be the opposite.
Also, telling guys to "man up" really just means you're bitter and think you deserve some amazing Mr. Perfect guy when you should earn one yourself. These "real men" you refer don't have time for dead weight. You gotta show them you're worth their time. Being too scared to ask them out when they don't notice your wallflower existence isn't gonna get you anywhere. "Real men" want "real women." You get what you put into it.I guess if we're going back to gender roles then I've got some laundry that needs done, I'm pretty hungry to and hey shouldn't you have pushed out a son by now to continue my bloodline?
Humanity in all it's entirety are all different. It's where the term came from. Neither men or women all share a single characteristic.
If you're looking for a tough manly man I'm sure if you scour the gutters you'll find some high strung ass hole who won't eat "rabbit food" and believes in the bullshit in the beginning of my post.Some of it could be social influence. Society tolerates people being weak thesedays. and sometimes encourages it. Being self-sufficient is almost a thing of the past.
I think the food chain has been an ever bigger influence. Toxic chemicals in food and in the environment have been reducing male hormone levels world-wide, and across all age groups, at about 1% per year for more than 30 years. When a young man of today reaches his father's age, he will have about 30% less male hormones than his father has now. Some of this damage was done to him before he was even born.Guys what she's trying to say is, why can't men ask a girl out? Why are they Lazy and want things handed to them? Why can't they treat a woman right? Why can't they even ask a girl out?
Guys these days are whipped, they aren't good with girls, cjeap basic, pick up line shit, scared of rejection, can't talk to girls..
I was like that, people need to learn how to converse and ask women out. Most of their efforts are pathetic and can't land thenselves hot girls with the belief they are too ugly or notpopular."What happened to men being MEN?
Seems nowadays most guys are more feminine than most girls! They seem lazy, whinny, no ambition, can't get their hands dirty, don't know how to treat a woman and last, are too scared to approach a female and ask her out. Man up men! "
What happened to women being WOMEN?
Seems nowadays most women are more masculine than most guys! They seem bitchy, bossy, angry and too money hungry, they want their cake and eat it too, want to be princesses but also want 'equality' when it suits them and can't get their butts into the kitchen where they belong!
Now seriously apart from your horrid sexist rant why don't YOU "woman up" , grow some ovaries and DO THE ASKING.
Guys are TIRED of bitchy women, ENTITLED women, who think they should have everything and the SPIT on the men who deliver it.
ENOUGH !
Oh and you can thank feminism for this. Enjoy your "liberation", now go pay your own damn dinner!I concur.
I'm a real man and most women think I'm an arsehole, so go figure.
I honestly don't think women know what it takes to be a real man, because they're women not men and for some strange reason men are trying to make themselves accessible to women by catering to women's preconceived notions about what it takes to be a real man, therefore losing their identity as well as their balls.
How I learnt to be a man was simple upon arriving at London Zoo as a hyperactive six year old child, I stumbled upon the Gorilla section and there were these huge silverback gorillas stumbling around and the males to be epitomized alpha male behaviour, so now whenever I need to find my balls I say to myself "Now, now Mr Octagon, if a silverback gorilla was in your predicament how would he react to this situation!" and surprisingly it works rather well.Who the fuck are you to tell men to "man up"? People can do whatever they want, and in the end, they're the ones who suffer from the consequences of their own actions. Women nowadays aren't exactly perfect either.
What happened to women? They want to be equal to men, but only when they benefit from it. Most women (not all women) want jobs, power and money like men and expect men to share those things with them in society but ask a woman if she wants to share the benefits of being a woman in the dating game (Being the chooser aka be the one to get asked out, never having to pay for a date or never paying the whole bill on a date and controlling when sex happens in a relationship ) I'm pretty sure women will never give those benefits up.
Because women beat men down. We can't ask out some1 with being acussed of sex herassment. Or stalking. So men can't joke or ask someone out without getting sued. Can't check out someone without getting fired. Hell u can get kicked out of bar because a woman asks
I agree with u i keep seeing guys getting manicure anddm going to spas and this thing about being metrosexual i just stupid is was made up. by some gay guys. i am a mans man i watch football drink. beer work on. cars sweat like man when i workout and i do go up to women with confidence and get a number at least and if i had sex i. pretty sure i will. be the man and take control. done worry there are some actually good mans man out there and to the pretty boys be a man because that's what women really want
Feminism happened. That's what.
The good men are too afraid to approach most women because if they do, and the woman thinks they aren't attractive enough, they will call them a creeper. Men are also wary of false rape accusations. No means no and yes means yes until she changes her mind halfway through or even afterwards. Then it's rape.
The bad boys don't give a crap, so they go ahead and approach women. Then, when the women get pumped and dumped, they cry about how there are no good men anymore.This is a bullshit question. As if girly girl anon above knows how to be a man. It's all vision that clouds the reality that sits in front of us. For some reason out society can't simply accept who we are. We are all individuals but some of us, and I mean a lot of us, can't get that through their thick skull. being a man doesn't mean you automatically have to meet the so called standards set in place.
I'm trying to think where it all went wrong for Men. Maybe not having manly fathers, plus the strong pro-Independent Woman movement and Chivalry is sexist/we want sensitive Men thing killed it off and confused the rest.
Next time a wuss backs out of an approach shout: "Hey you, Man up!" lol
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