Most women hit men and don't expect to get hit back. If it hurts at all I'm going to hit her back so she learns not to hit people and that I'm not messing around.
@nathanp97 This sort of thinking will likely have an effect, but it will also alienate her and likely make her feel unsafe around you. There are other, non-violent ways to communicate this.To be clear, male violence against women kills more women every year than terrorism has killed in the last decade. Joining the ranks of guys who visit violence against women to "teach them a lesson" is not justified by your discomfort alone. You need to actually feel that your health or safety are at risk before using violence.That said, I'm not defending her use of violence in this situation either. She has no right to hit you or harm you just because she expects no repercussions. But understand this: In this society, we do not avoid hitting each other because we fear being hit back; we avoid hitting each other because we agree as a society that it is wrong, and because it doesn't get us what we want.Punishment is an ineffective means of conditioning anyway.So basically; hitting women as a way to get her to "learn not to hit people and that you're not messing around" is ineffective and ethically wrong, but so is her hitting you in the first place. You don't get license to commit a wrong just because someone else has. You have license to use violence only in the defense of yourself and others.
I don't have a problem with her feeling unsafe around me. With any luck her being afraid will keep her away from me.When I mean hit back I don't mean beat her to a bloody pulp. If she punches me in the face I'll do the same. I won't go all out, especially on the first hit. The first hit is a warning shot, after that if she continues I'll start hitting harder. Do you know how many people die from accidental deaths, and how easy it is to loose your balance and fall. Any fight or physicality against a person is a risk to his life and well being. You can also include my mental health as a factor. Getting hit around can harm a person mentally as well as physically. I'm not punishing her, I'm teaching her that there are consequences for her actions, and just because she is a girl doesn't mean I won't hit back. How is it ethically wrong? It can cause her to stop hitting you, and I care way more about my well being than some lady that is assaulting me. If some is hitting you it is self defense.
@nathanp97 "When I mean hit back I don't mean beat her to a bloody pulp""Any fight or physicality against a person is a risk to his life"Yea see here's the problem and you made my argument for me really well. If she hit you, but now she's DONE HITTING YOU, and clearly not about to hit you again, your response (hitting her back) is not self defense anymore because you aren't actually defending anything by doing it. It's now using violence (which you spell out very clearly above has a small but very serious chance of causing disability or death no matter how measured or well-intentioned), to teach her a lesson.And that's what pieces of shit do.I'll say it again: we don't use violence as a teaching method, even when the lesson is about violence.If you retaliate when the confrontation is already in the process of ending, you are responsible for the potential consequences of the violence you visit on her. You didn't need to hit her back to protect yourself. You could have just done nothing.Many men believe in the teaching power of punishment; hurt them so that they learn not to do it again.Psychology has come down pretty hard against that philosophy as a teaching and shaping tool, because while it can get results, it's like using a woodcutting axe to carve minature figurines; you may successfully cut the wood, yes, but you're also going to damage the figurine in the process.I'll say it again: using violence to actually protect yourself and stop an attacker is fine. Using violence as a punishment to "teach her a lesson" and "show her you're serious" is ANYTHING but fine.
Some tries to twist here and ending up looking like what he tries to make the other one looks like.
If she hits you once she might do it again in the future. If you quickly hit her back she will hopefully learn to to ever do it again. Basically, by hitting her back you prevent future insurances and can keep both parties safer. Women need to learn responsibly. They already get 60% less prison time for the same crime as a man.
Are some kind of boxer or street fighter?
Pretty unbiased bunch man or woman makes no difference
Canadian forces even allows homosexual to enlist here anyone willing to take a bullet is allowed the opportunity to attend lol
And no I don't go around street fighting anyone if it comes to it tho ur probably fucked everyone can get luckey but the chances are it's gonna be me lol
Dont flatter yourself woman... you aiant all that !!
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You always give the best answers. I’m so glad you’re on GAG as I think a lot of people here need your wisdom judging by some of the opinions I see.
@RaindropSparkle Thanks for the feedback. The whole reason I bother to post is to hopefully help someone. it's good to know that some find it useful.
Well it’s good to see! 😊 Keep up the good work! 👍🏻
Yee often we try to walk away, but then often girls get this bright idea to keep attacking and gets really pissed if pushed away. But after first fist fly into there faces they sudenly becomes victims. Girls are ood, they want to fight till fight actually starts and then they want to play victims and get away from fight.
Best reply! Try to do minimal harm. But I think that people who do these "bar assaults" always seem to be blind drunk and completely out of control. Sometimes dispatching them is the only recourse.
I'm a black belt in taekwondo so perhaps it's different for me as I know how to subdue someone without the need to necessarily strike them but I can understand that for others they might have no choice but to strike out.
But men are stronger than women so a light punch might actually hurt her
Then he gonna punch more lughtly than a feather😂
But girls don’t hit other girls for fun, only guys, so isn’t odd that they only treat guys like that
It’s sexist too hit a guy know that he won’t hit you back, so that’s why I never liked when girls did that. Even in a joking matter
Hitting a guy or a girl for no reson is wrong. Femalea end up in catfightMale end up in tuff fight Male vs female in weird fight and judged a lot
As I said before a women hit a guy because she knows he’s not supposed to hit her back, it’s the same reason why bullies look for fight they can win. No girls who hits guys goes around hitting girls that can kick her ass. So if you want her to learn her lesson should be hit back just so she doesn’t feel it’s ok to bully people.
And what if ot is your girlfriend that hits you playful?
That already happened to me but it was a slap on the ass but when I did it she got upset, so I already know women are full of shit. Just a bunch of immature bullies
😂😂well not all are the same
I don’t care about the ones that are different I’m trying to expose the ones that are trying to exploit people. Why would i worry about women that treat men with respect
Some just dont know how to respect othet
So if you where a guy and you knew that a girl was bulling you and trying to get you to fight her how would you solve that situation.
Try other solution; if it dosnt work then i hould punch her
So you realize that hit someone that’s bullying you will solve the problem instantly, so why is it that all girls saying men should never hit a woman? If the only thing that will make her stop is something you guys don’t want us to do
That is why i wad trying to yell you from the begning that it depends on the situation.Is it your girlfriend, sister, a bully, a friend, your mum, a killer, a muscular female, a weak female?It is like females are mouse and males are cats when it comes to how the dody is build like and strengt
But that sexist because you would never use that argument if two men where fighting, equality means the same rules apply for men and women,And if a girl is hitting her boyfriend because she wants to be physically then just wrestle or ask for some dick, don’t box.
If a guy hit a girl, he is gonna get judged bad. If a girl sleep with more than 1 man, she is gonna get judged bad.That is an exemple
She gonna get judge bad because a girls sleeping with multiple guys isn’t impressive, there no work involved when a bad bitch sleep with a ton of men. If she had to have game and convince men to sleep with her then should would be praised for it. Because then she’s doesn’t something that’s actually takes work.
What if she habe sleept with 1 man, but then they broke up and the she gets another boyfriend and sleep with him. That will be 2 men and she will be judged bad.Girls who hits/bully guys for no reason are crazy. And 1 punch from a strong guy can kill a girl if she is week. Guys gets judged if the hit back, because of the strengt diffrency
Ok but you can say the same thing about a guy fight a bear, we know a bear will fuk us so we don’t mess with them, women should view men the same way.And if women doesn’t wanna be with more than one man and labeled a hoe then should just wait until marriage.
Why doesn't a male get judged a lot if he sleep with many women, but i woman needs to wait until marriage?And why does a body build muscular women get judged a lot uf she hit back on a weak male?
Because a men has to convince a women to sleep with him so we admire that. Women don’t have to convince a man to sleep with her so where not impress by her sleeping with every guy. Do you want your son to hit a girl that bullies him in school?
He can slap back
If my son was a little baby😂😂then it wouldn't be a big deal.But i houldnt want him to hit her hard, only loosy, like a jelly hit just to scare her
Indeed... i did some boxing when i was younger and the old adage still stands...“weight will stop a train”... that's why they have weight divisions in boxing.
Have you been in fights, sparring is ok to? If itc isn't surprise or any other stimulant that would cause reaction from mucle memmory, it could work. Else if suprised or harmed in a way thats fight or fly mode, first punch will be full power next ones probably to, till it registers on whats happening.
So if I flick you in the eye is it not going to hurt or cause damage. It matters where you hit more than how hard. If she punches you and it causes you to trip you could hit your head and die or be seriously harmed.Also if the guy and girl weight roughly the same are you fine with the idea of a guy hitting back? My logic is if you don't want to get hit back don't hit someone in the first place. And if you do you have do live with the consequences.
I don't care what your logic is. This is a general statement. You can run what if scenarios in your journal all day. If one isn't posing a threat to you, as the average girl doesn't to the average guy, it doesn't make sense to hit back merely because she hit you. If she's intent on killing you alright go nuts. But generally speaking, principle of proportionality.
And if she does it once she is likely to do it again in the future. If you hit back she is less likely to hit you again. Basically, a hit today prevents a hit on the future.
Very noble of you
He can slap her back
@sportsnerd what? no...
A slap back is ok
Lol no agree to disagree. Hitting someone weaker than you shows how weak your character is, same goes to when you hit someone when they know the other won't hit back. Both parties deserve partners with similar mentalities. by the way its completely fine for foreplay😋
A slap would not hurt much
You really want get slapped don't you 🤣 like I said for foreplay it's all right
chat shit get hit
In teory thats perfect, in real life hardly. With adrenalin pumping your brain might just not have time to think and it just goes down to muscle memory. I mean why risk it? You dont start fights, and thats even more truth if you can't win them.
@Janncis where did I say that it's okay for women (or men) to throw a first punch? I thought that was a given that it's not okay
If a woman you don’t know ever attacks you then you better assume she has 1. A weapon, 2. Friends nearby who will jump you from behind.You better go all out on her to end the threat instantly so you have time to deal with other potential threats. Playing games gets you killed. It’s no joke.
Half-arsed violence doesn't solve anything. If someone attacks you, you give them everything you've got short of deadly force (unless they're using deadly force) and end the confrontation as quickly as possible.To do otherwise increases the risk of serious injury or death.
Sure, if she deserves then give it back
It’s so cowardly to hit back at someone weaker (which is most likely to be the case in this situation, albeit not always). Unpopular opinion; but there seems to be a fair few here.
Dunno its pretty stupid to start fight you can't win. You won't blame lion for eating you if you stepped ion its cage, then why you would blame men for defensive punch if you start fight? Ps. there are huge difference between defense and retaliation.
@Janncis I agree, I’m not debating the stupidity of it. The obvious difference is that men know better than a lion, at least I’d hope so, although it is also fair to say I sadly not everyone is blessed with common sense.
True i know what kind damage i can do, question is why should i be responsible for your actions, or woman are just incapable of taking responsibility of there own fists? It goes in both ways.In fact if possible i will try to avoid fight , meaning will suck up few punches, but to draw line? Where to much is to much? I certantly hope men are not as disposable as media tends us to portray.
@Janncis you are not responsible for their actions, you are responsible for YOURS. You sound confused because you talk about a woman not taking responsibility in a demeaning way (understandably) but in the same senstance you try to justify yourself doing exactly the same thing. With all due respect this sounds pretty immature.Nobody is saying men are disposable at all. I would not consider myself disposable if a youngster tried to do this to me. That sounds like too much like a victim mentality to me. I’d rather lead by example personally.To avoid any further confusion I refer back to my original comment.
So he shouldn't hit back because she is weaker? Ok, so what if she was almost his strength, height or maybe taller and seemingly bigger?
Well you woman demand us men to take responsibility when you get pregnant or get assaulted. Dont see why we can't demand you to take responsibility for your own fists.Also im not talking about slapping, most it hurts is pride. Im talking about trowing punches in someones face with intent to do bodly harm. If you would stop after one punch shure do it, but walk away or let me walk away, no insults nothing. You did what you wanted i let it now lets go on our own ways. But if you persist in harming me more i will defend myself. And i dont care how strong you are, if im forced into fight i will be deamed if i can't finish it, or i will be sleeping on ground knocked out.
Well how you can even compare pregnancy to this is beyond me given the fact that both choose to participate unsafely. Look, no offence but I’m done with this convo as it’s less about logic and more about ranting. Good luck with that.
Well women seem to have this idea that men won't hit them back, so I would hit back regardless. If she punches me I'd either punch her or show her the back of my hand. Basically I'd give her a warning shot, so she knows I'll hit back.
And that is a mentality of an immature kid.
The one who through the first punch is immature. All I'm doing is teaching them a lesson their parents clearly didn't teach them.
Tel me child how im suposed to know after you punch me that you mean no harm, that you dont have a knife or any other tool to harm me? Yee i could tolarate firt hit, but second...
@nathanp97 As I said - 2 wrongs don't make a right and it is not your place to "teach them a lesson", that is just proving you are even worse than them cause you know that you can actually hurt them as men are physically stronger.
@Janncis That is why you restrain them or escape the sitiation before you get the second hit, you can't act on useless violence out of "maybe they have a knife and maybe plan to attack me with it in the future, better beat the shit out of that woman just in case".
@Janncis And please don't call me a child, you are not some old man, if fact - still withing my dating range. Latvians get so arrogant in internet space I just can't.
Ehh, explain me how im suposed to restrain if i dont have a rope or handcufs? And restraining someone can go south really quick. In self defence u use resonable amount of force. There is no reason to punch someone because of slap.I think you watch to much movies and have never been i fight. When fists starts flying in your face, last thing you think is restraining them, defence and attack comes first. Also good pair of running shoes are good to have. As i said before, dont want to get hit dont start hitting someone. You have no idea whats going in that persons head. Some one might as well mugged that person before or treathened beating them up. And i can guarantee you, if by any chance that person has firearm and you even not knowing reach in its direction, you might become swish cheese. And it will be totally ok response. Quiz for him you attacked him and tried to take his firearm. Or girls are just incapable of taking responsibility for there fists? You will never break trought that glass seeling or get respect if you can't take responsibility of your own body parts. Men have to take responsibility for his, equality is bitch isn't it xD
Oh but you are out of my dating age. And thinking that someone will take responsibility for your own shitty actions is plain stupid and childish. you will be lucky if treated ok after it. Well ye we Latvians are cold. But somehow here in Europe people know better that to let fists flying and then cry that no one can hit them.
@Janncis Trust me I know, I am not advocating that "women can't take responsibility of their actions" whatever that was about, I am just saying about being able to asess the situation and act accordingly, some people have argued on here with me that if a woman slaps you (even when you really had it coming) it's pretty much ok to beat her to a pulp. That is not normal is all I'm saying.
Morimeme1, wait so are you saying a women can't hurt a man? Lacking physical strength relative to the average man doesn't mean you can't hurt a man. If you think otherwise let someone flick you in the eye as hard as they can. You should be stronger than a finger, don't won't hurt or cause damage. It doesn't take lots of force to knock a person out, break the lower rib, etc...I think the difference is I care less about her and more about the people she will hit again, because she thinks she can get away with it. If I hit her now I might be able to prevent the next guy from getting hit.As for your last comment, why would a man have it coming. Did he hit her first. If not he didn't have it coming, because to say that would mean a guy could slap a girl for the same reasons. And I don't think anyone is saying if a girl hits you once you can beat her to a pulp.
@nathanp97 And again - it's not your place and I would highly advise you against it because let's face it - in court it is the man who will be prosecuted for abuse, if he hit her back she can easily frame him. "I'm gonna hit her to save others" fake hero attitude does not fly either. And yes a man can have it coming if he has mentally abused her, been a real prick, cheated on her etc, a slap is a minor punishment for the mental pain (a woman would also deserve that in my opinion but I already explained why that is a bad idea).
As long as it is on camera that she hit first or you have a few witnesses you are fine. The court can't really go against that even if they want to. Guys have to hit back because the girls won't get punished otherwise. They already get 60% less prison time for the same crime a man commits.
Oh well, I guess it comes down to personal values, I think it's very low of a man to hit a woman even if she had it coming but I guess not that many dignified men left nowadays.
Says women who want to be treated as equals ownly when it suits them. Any women who would hit a man isn't dignified either, so who cares?
I think its simple, wana be treated as lady, then act like one, wana be treated as men well start fights. Of course there are boundries, but things usually goes south wen one party oversteps them. If you want to hit him slap him, only thing he can do then to save face is to go away. But god deamit dont start fights, or there are real hight chance you will be treated as men and punched back.
@Janncis My original answer is not only about men but using violence in general only when absolutely necessary, I am not saying that a woman decidinb to hit someone is ok and yeah in the real world she can expect to be punched back, I just wouldn't respect either of them.
Who said anything about knocking her out straight?And yeah why would you not hit your mom back? Sure punching your mom is kinda shitty, but so is punching your child.
So children can't defend themselves from child abuse by their mother?
I've been defending myself from child abuse for like 15 years so fuck your retarded opinion xD emmily2396
@Nachowedgie I am not talking about cases when your parent is mentally ill and you are being abuse. I am talking about your mom spanking you for doing something stupid. If she hits you once without a weapon I doubt you are in big danger unless she is a professional fighter and can do serious damage with just 1 hit. Learn to read before calling anyone's opinion raterded.If you crashed her car due to drunk driving and your mom hits you once then you hit her full force? If anything is retared that is your way of seeing things.
I never said my parent was mentally I'llNo you aren't talking about being spanked as punishment you clearly said "Would you punch your mom back if she punched you first" a punch isn't a slap, a punch is abuse.Retarded* learn to spellI don't drive nor drink nor does my mom own a car.What you said is retarded and insulting to those who've experienced child abuse or spousal abuse and quite frankly you should be disgusted with yourself. You have basically said you should just let your parents (in this case the mother) abuse you because she gas a vagina. Can a 5 year old boy defend himself against a 27 year old woman, no he fucking can't, so use that pea sized brain of yours for once you absolute moron.
Has* not gas (autocorrect)
@Nachowedgie Well said man
Thank you @DeshawnMGTOW
If you see most of these videos om the tube most guys aggressively push these women away and the woman will come back harder to which you give her an appropriate response.
I disagree. I think it’s fair for men to hit back. Hitting back is not a sign of weakness, it’s just self defense. Girls can and do threaten men.
Be a man and dont hit back, simple as that. Men are stronger and are more control of their emotions, its immaturity for him to think its fair and fine
Saying women are emotional and can't stop themselves from hurting men, and that the men should know how to handle it, to me, sounds sexist against women. That argument
... "that argument" was a typo
Well its true factually that women tend to be more emotional
Right, but tending to be more emotional and being unable to stop violent urges seem fairly different to me. If the latter was true, then we could expect more police brutality from female police officers, right?
We’re talking about a relationship, women do their work fine but when it comes to relationship no sane man would hit a woman back, if he does and thinks it what she deserves, he surely was not raised right
We're talking about women hitting men in a relationship? Well why would someone punch their loved ones? Sounds like spousal abuse.
Yes out of anger, anger is normal in a relationship from time to time (not excessive) not spousal abuse if it isn’t reoccurring frequently
If someone occasionally harms their loved ones are they more or less likely to harm a stranger?
I suppose we may have to agree to disagree. I think that any amount of assault in a relationship should not be considered normal.
Ok so you think its ok to hit women why? When clearly men have an advantage physically. What kind of logic is that. And no not all women who hit their spouses also hit strangers. And im not saying women should hit, no one should hit but to say that a man should hit back is complete and utter bullshit
Well yeah id agree, assault in general is not a good thing
Alright, well my point is that saying it's normal for women to (occasionally) hit their partners sounds like it's saying women can't stop themselves, or that they are fine with it. I think that women are able to stop from hitting their partners, and that most see it as bad. I don't think that the partner should hit back (unless he is about to be severely injured), but he should be able to feel safe in a relationship. I still see uncommon violence as abuse.
Oh well my bad, i thought you meant that it was ok for men to hit women just in general, i think men should back away from any abusive woman, im just saying that if a man can't take a few hits without hitting back is a problem. Women or men shouldn’t hit in general but a man who is physically stronger than a women shouldn't hit because he clearly has more of advantage and can also control his emotions more.
If women are too emotional to keep from hitting then they shouldn't be allowed to hold most kinds of jobs and such.
@bamesjonf0069 relationships are different. A job is more professional and organized and an entire company with tons of people with responsibilities most times. A relationship is shared with only 2 people.
What's a relationship have to do with it?
Its literally the thing i was talking about in the comment that u replied to
So what about women who are single who punch men?
Who the fuck would do that? What scenario r u talking about
I don't know my buddy was walking down the street and a random girl punched him in the face and laughed. We have no idea why she even did it. He just stood there stunned.I saw a dude bump into a girl in a club accidentally and she punched him in the face twice. He pushed her and she fell over and he ran away.I had a room mate and she punched me in the face and broke my tv. So i locked her outside in the snow and broke most of her shit and then threw it outside with her.
She did that to me because she was in a fight on the phone with her boyfriend and was just watching tv minding my business.
Well the punch is uncalled for on the first but the second one is self defense, the guy might have had good intentions but women tend to be more exposed to assault than men so it would be understandable as to why she reacted in such a way. Why are you trying to justify hitting a girl back? What type of man are you? Gross.
Okay, it's cool that we seem to be on the same page. I think an issue is that punches to the face head and neck can be lethal, regardless of both genders. Men may be less fragile, but they aren't immortal.I think that's different from getting punched in the shoulder (which both genders did to me a lot growing up). Perhaps the question is too vague... it didn't even mention relationships, just made a generalization for all women and men.
Why not hit a person back? Do you not believe in equality. Equal rights and equal consequences.
I believe in equal opportunity, not equality of outcome. I also believe in doing the right thing
Ya, giving men the same opportunity to defend themselves. And the right thing is not to hit a man in the first place. Teaching women not to hit men, or that there will be consequences if they do is the right thing.
If you can't defend yourself without punching the woman, get back in the gym. If your intention is to teach her a lesson, someone should teach you that a good man is capable of hurting people, but chooses not to.Don't let someone else's actions dictate your own
Bravo! A man who hits a woman is weak.
The average South Asian man is lighter, shorter and has a lower BMI than the average White European woman. Does this advocacy for "equal opportunity, not equality of outcome" mean that you'd also refuse to condone punching back against an Indian or Pakistani man who punched you, on account of the physical disparity which exists between you, an average American man, and the average South Asian man? A physical disparity greater than that which exists between yourself and the average White American woman? If an Indian guy came up to you and punched you in the face, repeatedly, would you really be arguing "If you can't defend yourself without punching the Pakistani man, get back in the gym. If your intention is to teach him a lesson, someone should teach you that a good man is capable of hurting people, but chooses not to," and "Bravo! An American man who hits an Indian man is weak!"?
Yes actually, if there was a physical disparity between me and another man that is equal to or greater than the physical disparity between average American men and women, I wouldn't feel the need hit him back. There are more variates to this situation than we are discussing. The only thing I can assume from the stated question is that a woman hit a man one time.It's a great question you posed because I'm naturally inclined to think a woman's intentions are different than a man's intentions in this situation. I tend to think a woman wants to provoke a reaction, whereas a man is trying to prove himself.
@nathanp97 just because your dad hit your mom don't make it right.
I understand the reasoning behind hit 'em back. If you're assaulting someone, they can defend themselves. A little man or a little woman. On the other hand, if it was EITHER a little man or a little woman, you could JUST as well restrain them and avoid damage to everyone.
@Screenwriter Just because someone's diminutive and/or physically weaker, doesn't mean they're not a crazy psycho. In fact, when they're the aggressor, it's more commonly the other way round- someone who'll attack you, completely unprovoked, when you have clear height, weight and build advantages, is most likely going to be either a complete idiot with zero sense of self-preservation, or a total raving psycho who'll go straight for gouging your balls (eyeballs, or the other set of balls down below) out with their first attack. Remember, Wolverine's canonically only 5'3". And the average knife crime perpetrator's statistically 4-5" shorter than the average person, shorter than the average female. That's why they carry knives in the first place- to overcompensate. And that's why you DO need to do everything in your power to incapacitate an unprovoked assailant ASAP, regardless of whether you dominate them physically or not. Because even if you do, that just makes it even likelier that they'll have prepped other measures to overcome that little obstacle, and even likelier that any show of mercy'll only escalate the situation to one of life-and-death. Law of the streets...
Whether or not it's likely that they are a raving lunatic with a knife, I didn't take that as the topic of discussion.The idea is to act out of self-defense. If you can EASILY defend yourself without risking permanent damage to the assailant, that's the morally sound thing to do.If you think your life is at risk, of course defend yourself the best you can. Don't show up in divorce court and say "I thought my wife was gonna kill me" when she hit you once.
But any time someone attacks you your life is at risk. + it isn't the person's responsibility to protect the one who is attacking him. Saying it is is basically the same as victim blaming.
@nathanp97 Exactly. The risk of permanent damage to MYSELF is my first and foremost priority, not the potential risk of permanent damage to the assailant I might cause by retaliating. And I know from personal experience that it's fundamentally impossible to avoid any risk of causing permanent damage to the assailant, no matter what you do or don't do- learnt that at school, when I got a month's suspension, I kid you not for 'bruising the knuckles' of a far older, larger, heavier and stronger 18yo student. Who'd shoved me (an only-just 13yo) to the ground in the middle of the schoolyard in an unprovoked assault, sat on top of my chest, and pummeled my head into the concrete for almost a minute straight, loosing no less than 57 blows with all his might. All I did was to lay back and take it- the first couple to my face, the rest against my forearms after I started blocking them- before politely asking him if he was done when he ran out of steam, waiting for him to clamber off me, then getting up, brushing myself off and going about my business. And him? He got only 3 days' suspension. After all, he was the one who'd gone to complain about his bruised knuckles (and ego, after having been incapable of inflicting permanent injury upon a scrawny little 13yo). And he was a Pakistani Muslim, so he was automatically 'the Victim'.
@nathanp971. False, your life is not at risk if you can physically overpower the attacker. This would be similar to saying your life is at risk walking up a flight of stairs.2. True, but taking on that responsibility is the right thing to do. The reason I feel this way is because I actually care about humans. Maybe you're more concerned about yourself?3. False, I wouldn't blame the victim for assaulting their attacker. Shit happens, but if you go the extra mile to "teach them a lesson" lol, that makes you the attacker.Have you ever been hit by a girl? The situation isn't always this tense. Why do I have to say this again? The question was if a girl punches you, not if you're approached by MMA fighter Ronda Rousey who wants you dead.
*sorry, tarmac, not concrete. Happened in the middle of the tennis courts, where we were playing football- I passed the sixth-formers' ball back over to them when it came over onto our pitch, and he charged me down 'cause I hadn't handed it over directly to him instead.
"1. False, your life is not at risk if you can physically overpower the attacker. This would be similar to saying your life is at risk walking up a flight of stairs." No, this would be similar to saying that your life is at risk fighting off a seemingly rabid feral dog, that's just attacked you out of nowhere for no apparent reason. You can easily physically overpower the average dog- you have a MASSIVE size, weight, strength, age and intelligence advantage over it. But are you seriously going to tell that person "You CAN'T kick that attack dog, that's ANIMAL CRUELTY, you're DISGUSTING!"?"2. True, but taking on that responsibility is the right thing to do. The reason I feel this way is because I actually care about humans. Maybe you're more concerned about yourself?"So what, now you're saying that 'yourself'- ergo, the man in this situation- ISN'T even HUMAN? You're dehumanizing the victim just because the hypothetical attacker's female?"3. False, I wouldn't blame the victim for assaulting their attacker. Shit happens, but if you go the extra mile to "teach them a lesson" lol, that makes you the attacker." You literally just did. And if you DON'T go the extra mile to be sure they no longer have the will and/or capacity to press their determined assault, that makes you their facilitator. We may be men, but we have no obligation to allow ourselves to be victimized, just to "atone for our male privilege".
"Have you ever been hit by a girl? The situation isn't always this tense. Why do I have to say this again? The question was if a girl punches you, not if you're approached by MMA fighter Ronda Rousey who wants you dead." Actually, YES. SEVERAL times. And I actually DO have SEVERAL permanent injuries, including no less than THREE permanent FACIAL injuries, which were all inflicted by female aggressors with no real motive. Including a massive bite-mark on the bridge of my nose, caused by my little sister in a massive tantrum she threw at me because I just happened to be there when she couldn't find her phone (which turned out to have been in her pocket the whole time- still NEVER got any hint of an apology). And an even more massive pinch-mark on my left upper cheek, on the outside of my eye- inflicted by my aunt, who pinched out a massive chunk of flesh, when I was less than 18 MONTHS old. Why? Because I had the temerity to have been born- almost two months prematurely, while her own son had been delivered almost a month later than expected, giving me seniority in the line of succession by less than a fortnight. No, the situation ISN'T always that tense. Normally, it's far MORE tense. Because they're fully aware that they can do whatever they want to you, assault you with near-total impunity and immunity, not only from the law, but from any social disapproval or reputational fallout whatsoever. Solely because they're female and you're male. Get a clue.
1. Really, tell that to the guys who died because a girl they were stronger than nocked them of balance and fell head first onto the corner of the coffee table. If you think being stronger means you can't get seriously hurt than why not let someone flick you as hard as possible in the eye? You are stronger than their finger so, by your logic it won't do any serious damage. Girls have finger nails and are more likely to use a weaponed, so yes you are endanger. Going up stairs is a choice, getting attacked by a girl isn't. Anything can be a penitent risk to your life, but people make choices to take those risks. The problem is when some takes that choice away from you, which is what a girl would be doing.2. I think the difference is who we care about. You want to protect the abuser, I want to protect the future victims. If she hits me and get away with it she might do it to another guy. If I hit her back she might think twice.3. I'm not saying to beat her to a pulp. I'm saying do the same back to her, or perhaps just a nasty b**** slap.4. You're right they aren't. In elementary school my friends kept getting hit by the girls and the girls thought it was funny. All the teachers in the school were female and just laughed and ignored it. Years later in high school a girl hit one of them and he punched her back and got suspended, while she didn't. That is why I strongly believe girls need to be taught through getting hit back that it is wrong.