If most men find high maintenance/Barbie/glitzy type women unattractive, why do they always have boyfriends? (Page 2)
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They are SEXUALLY attractive. But they are NOT attractive LIFE PARTNERS. Why? Well, they have a higher proclivity to have sequential partners (actually not a good, nor neutral thing), and to trivialize and dehumanize you down to your soul in the process of transitioning between you and her next partner. Or put simply, they have a higher tendancy to betray you. That is actually NOT ATTRACTIVE, because it undermines the foundation of trust in the relationship. You can see it even when the guy is trying too hard to please her. Deep down he actually doesn't trust her, but she is sexually intoxicating to him; because men have direct access to dopamine and so, he is trying to do everything he can to get his fix.
@update No one is saying they NEVER have LTRs or marraiges. Also, you can have multiple LTRs and marraiges, that's still a case of sequential relationships. That's not LIFE LONG partnership, thus being a LIFE PARTNER. But the point is that they have a higher tendancy to betray you, hence the high maintenance. Its not that there are never any genuinely good people among those women, who actually have humility, and understand that life is suffering, and that it's best to navigate life with who you've got.
But I guess the latter would negate "high maintenance", and be more like high standards. Because the latter allows room to exercise patience and long suffering.
To raise their sexual market place value, other women think, that guy has to have something special. Just put them on their place and don't take their crap. They are not used to that so they also think you are a different kind of guy. Make en respect you or walk away. Noone walk s away from them so they get confused. Never give a women like that power over you. She will instantly abuse it stand your ground or walk away. Able to walk away is your greatest power. Don't put her on a pedistule in stead of that put her in her place and don't care.
I think such guys probably grow up and were told that they need to find a princess and work all the life really hard to reach a lot in life and take care of there wife make her happy and princess and probably they are empty as this girls in there mind.
I don't find this girls attractive, what i want is rare this days because times changed a girl that is yes of course attractive , but she is also is simple, easy to talk to with whom you can be your self, don't need to pretend anything, that she shiness from with in and out, a bit crazy, funny and has that good energy coming from her. Thats what i want, but not this empty arrogant women.
Men feel like they want these women (that is why they are called trophies) but they don't want to admit it because it would mean that they are shallow or that they are simply not attractive enough to these women to get them. This is an animalistic tendency that men should steer clear of despite their natural desires. Men should instead go for good women who are mentally, emotionally, and physically healthy because they will give their children the best chances for both success and survival.
That is simple; they both have the same mindset, values, and insecurities. They both are into high social acceptance and flash. Both will seek the best and try to be what they believe is the top of the heap. Their entire relationship will be centered on materialism and the quest for high status, which in the end is their own creation and façade—state of mind. I know of one moderator on here that fits this mold.
Im man who prefers a nice, oppionated, self sufficient , passionate , intelligent, does not have to be a model, sense of humor meaning , clean humor and dirty humor, moderately athletic and adventurous, good personality. A must love animals , music, art, dance, movies, photography, etc.
Self care makes us care? Too much and there's no room for us. I don't know. You get what you look for. If you want a trophy wife then pay the price. If you need a companion well don't easily abandoned. If your looking for a fine honey bee, then start thinking from the view of one knee.
Their appeal doesn't have to be a binary, there's going to be a few guys that like that. Mostly guys don't, but that still doesn't mean those guys wouldn't get with those girls.
She can still have attractive qualities, I would just put up with the idea that she likes covering her face in shit all the time. It's just a matter of whether the negatives outweigh the positives.
But generally, I'm going to avoid such women unless there's special circumstances that brings us near each other a lot or she makes a move or whatever else.
So the answer, which isn't on the poll, is that they have attractive qualities, it's just not their High maintenance/Barbie/glitzy predilections that are attractive.
It's not that men find them unattractive. The women in the pictures are good looking. Most men just don't want to put up with the bullshit that comes along with dating a high-maintenance woman. However, some men can't resist these women. And the way they dress and behave is sure to get attention from all kinds of men.
Some relationships aren't for real... sometimes your partner you chose to be w can effect your career , if you work w people that are very "country club" many times it's for show. Also w gay men they use a girl like that for a "beard" and are not out, that testifies to thier manhood. Personally , I'm not a barbie doll type. High maintenance is one thing but being spoiled to the point of being a total bi#ch and sense of entitlement that stinks of guy repellant is not fun , cute, or whatever
You literally answered your own question there. "Most men find high maintenance / Barbie / glitzy type women unattractive" so by a little basic reasoning, not all men find them unattractive, which means some actively like women like that. Is it making sense now?
For the record, I've messed with some real good looking girls, and despite their flaws in character, were much better looking than in the pics above. Barbie chicks are fake as fuck and usually quite average looking under all the makeup and hair extensions...
It's not that they are unattractive, quite often it is exactly the opposite. It's that the guys don't want to put in the effort.
High maintenance means that the guy is going to have to put in a lot of effort in the relationship. Gifts, dates, dealing with drama
This is a hard question, from my perspective.
Wild speculation:
So, these girls are chasing an ideal, right? Im thinking the guys that go for them are too. They both have an idea of what they need to be to live the "perfect" life. If your statement is true that they mostly have really good guys then maybe these guys are just as fake?
Question, would you say/think these guys are popular? Where do they fit in inside the norms of society?
I think that says more about you then men in general. You think men that will treat you like a whore are the “best types of guys”. There will always be some jackass that will pay some young women or more than one at a time for company until he gets bored or her or her youth fades. Most guys aren’t looking for prostitutes.
personally I think that they aren't unattractive,, I would love to be there boyfriend to see them smile when I get them the things that they love BUT I see why that is unattractive to some guys because most of the time they won't do anything or give anything back to their parent
You do realize there is a difference between dating someone for sex and dating for marriage. Some guys definitely like that type of girl, but most would just want to date her for her looks and sex, which to be honest is the same thing most high maintenance women seem to want anyways.
I thought men like feminine women?
Yes, but high maintenance/glitzy/barbie type women aren't the good kind of feminine women. You could say that those traits are part of toxicfemininity 😂
I actually dont know what Barbie/glitzy type women are but the women in pics look very attractive and feminine
Ya, but they wear lots of makeup, which isn't that attractive and most women who dress like that and wear that much makeup are kinda shallow and airhead, not things most guys like in long term relationships, unless they are similar to those women.
I know girls wears meake up like in pics but they do it some times, not always. And I think it is shallow to use them for sex only because of their style
And lots of those women use the guys for sex. I believe I mentioned it.
Oh ok
There are plenty of low IQ muscle head male counterparts to them that do find them attractive. Just because high IQ men are put off doesn't mean they can't find men, there are more low IQ low impulse control people around in general. Their lack of impulse control leads them to breed more.
Attractiveness and desirability are two completely different concepts. Sure, those girls are fun to look at, but I'd shoot myself if I had to spend more than a night or two listening to their childish whining or their self absorbed notions of themselves.
You've got the idea! :- ) But. don't kill yourself: they aren't worth the bullet.
Lol. Was just making a point.
:- )
I have dated these stertyped women before. I found that they are arguably the most insecure creatures on this planet other than Sociopaths. Most men are intimidated by them and never consider talking to them.
Once you get past all the hair and make up. Who is she? Won't know that until you ask. And I have a lot of beautiful friends that come along with brains.