Because the number of women who actually look like that is actually small in comparison to the number of women who don't actually look like that.
Why then do they always have boyfriends, simple it usually but not always but usually because while they are dating one they know there is a very long line of other men waiting for a go on the horse.
So for them then, it's just a matter of hopping from one to the next if they choose.
But you see here's the problem, for them they know more than anyone that their life is based almost purely on their looks, no matter how hard they work or how good they'll become at something their life is all about how they look, their success is because of their looks and so are their failures, criticised for being beautiful and so success is easy and forgiven for failure because if their looks so nobody should expect anything from them.
For me then I assume that's a pretty miserable life because at the end of the day when they sit alone knowing that at some point those looks are going to fade, but in the meantime their whole life is based purely on their outward appearance.
I know so many women like this who when drunk tell me how they despise their lives and how they look, how much they'd give to look normal and just be accepted because of something they can do not how they look, that it must be wonderful to speak to people and not see that they are listening just to try and get into your pants, how it must be wonderful to be with somebody because they value you not your looks.
It's usually at this point I give up because I know that she's too drunk to let me get into her pants so I get them a taxi and send them home and it's usually at this point they realise I wasn't listening to anything they said just pretending so that I can get into their pants.
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It's because a lot of men are just desperate, and are willing to put up with anything.
First, check out this thread from bodybuilding. com: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168948903&page=1
One of the guys on the forum made a POF profile where he took a picture of a fat woman, photoshopped her with a pig nose and hair on her chest. "She" got a lot of messages, some from pretty good looking men (at least much better looking than her), within a few hours. That's more than any of those men would get. Here are a few screenshots:
There are guys who become addicted to paying webcam girls for "webcam sex". There are guys who will pay women on streaming sites to watch them play video games. There are even guys who are willing to spend hard-earned money to pay gamer girl Belle Delphine for her bathwater:
https://www.businessinsider.com/belle-delphine-instagram-bathwater-pornhub-2019-7?r=US&IR=T
Those kinds of men are just so pathetic, so desperate for female attention that they'll literally do and put up with anything to get female attention. The guys who go for the women you posted are almost the same.
When I was a little girl I was always bullied for being weird. I read books and I and I was always afraid to stand up for myself. I rarely ever wore new clothes and my hair stayed in a ponytail for the first 16 years of my life. My family was very poor and I grew up in a house that many “tomboy” type girls would feel was beneath them. I was a tomboy, one of the guys, up until I was about 16. Once I became a woman of my own, I realized I wanted to be a girly girl. Not a tomboy like my mother. I pampered myself every chance I got on facials and nail polish. My mom was upset that I didn’t join the basketball team like she had when she was my age but I wanted to be a cheerleader. But I was too shy to tryout. I was allowed to have a boyfriend and so, although many boys asked me out in my teen years, I had to say no. I didn’t have a boyfriend until I was 20. Well into my “girly” ways. I started working my ass off and never asked that boy for a dime. By then I was fascinated with lashes and makeup and I wanted to be a model. People were always telling me I should. My parents did not give me a thing, I was not spoon fed. Nobody helped me so much as get to work without collecting $100 a week. I paid my way in life and the least i deserved was to feel girly and feminine. Somewhere along the lines people started calling me “high maintenance”. People who didn’t know anything about me. And I ignored it and never tried to argue with anybody about who I was. I was always called pretty even when I was barefaced, and my ex boyfriend encouraged me to love myself. But he eventually left me for a girl who was further along in her “high maintenance-ness” than me. She looked like an Instagram model long before I did. But the point of what I’m trying to say is, don’t judge a book by its cover
Are you still a model?
Men are visual and sometimes very dumb creatures. They say they want a natural looking girl but the pictures that they’re referring to the girl is obviously wearing makeup 💄 most of the time when it comes to that they don’t know what they’re talking about. 😩
Since these “Barbie” types as you call them are very feminine and attractive they generally have their pick of men. Now notably if she’s just a hateful, rotten or a crazy person on the inside most men will run for the hills. Most are smart enough to know they don’t want that long term.
These girls even though they’re very focused on their looks in some ways doesn’t always make them shallow or dumb they just know how to play their cards and looking their best boosts their self esteem so usually they’re very confident. Confidence is attractive to all genders and if she feels good about herself she’s most likely happy and men are attracted to happy women. So they’re pretty much the perfect storm for attracting a mate. Whether or not their relationships or marriages are good and last only time will tell.
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They do not find them unattractive. They simply cannot have them. Sour grapes
Umm you meant you would worship a good looking guy or that you were being sarcastic reply was for it
Lol okay 😅
Well usually they're attractive women or they couldn't live that kind of life. In the house I grew up in we actually had one of these girls. Her parents weren't rich but she was an only child I think she was quite spoiled. She almost never came out to play with us and stayed in her room she had her own computer at a very young age and bak then they were way more expensive.
When she grew up she was dating soccer players from the cities team like the U21 players they had their cars with the team logo. She dumped one and moved on to another guy. If she wasn't attractive she couldn't have kept up the spoiled lifestyle but I guess it worked out for her. She did kinda have a bit of a arrogant attitude like she was really interested in status and if you didn't live up to the level she saw herself at, she treated you as lesser even if you were just a neighbor or whatever. It wasn't extreme but when she got older she didn't spend any time with anybody else in the house at all it's like she didn't live there. The rest of us kids were very close so it was noticeable.
Gonna go out on a limb and say the guys dating those girls aren't also saying they're not into barbie/glitzy types lol. That and/or what you view as a barbie type isn't the same as them.
To me a girl can be glitzy, but not barbie or high maintenance. Like a Audrey Hepburn type of woman. Definitely glitzy, but people would call her Classy not Barbie. High maintenance is more about an attitude/personality type rather than a look. A girl can be done up and put time/effort into her look without being high maintenance.
High Maintenance from the guys perspective means work she has for YOU to do. Not the effort she puts into herself. She needs you to do XYZ in order to be happy. That's high maintenance. Not taking extra long to get ready, put on the nails, brows and all that noise.
Barbie types vary I would say. To me, barbie type means fake tits, if they're not naturally big, straightened hair or always purmed, tight clothes always, always wearing some form of heels/wedges. Always has a pair of shades on her, always has her purse. Fake nails, not just painted. Full on fake nails. To me that's what a barbie type of girl is. Not just a girl who has nails done, hair done, everything did lol
Personally, I do not care if a girl is all done up. But I do want a girl who puts effort into her look. Doesn't need to be crazy. Just some effort. Like the girls who do the bare minimum by maintaining a good hairstyle for them. Does her eyes, shaves pits/legs, then I'm good to go. Legs don't even have to be pristine. Little grazers are fine to me and I like a little hair down low anyways, so a quick buzz is more than enough to me. Outside of that I just do not care as far as a girls effort in her appearance. I appreciate she wants to look good for me, but that's what I care about rather than the individual things she put effort into.
You are completely misreading whats happening. Men love barbie girls. Every girl I dated has been what you would call a "princess" or "Barbie" but I have never dated nor would i a "Queen" or a "diva". They all look the same but are totally different.
Barbie princesses like to do up their makeup and stuff BUT they want a man to lead them, be in charge of them, be responsible for them. They act as feminine as they look and they enjoy looking this way. These girls typically do everything up yet if you threw them in the pool they would giggle and have fun with it, not a care in the world about their makeup.
diva Queens are demanding and thus demand to look this way. If you threw one in the pool she would yell at you and scream about how you ruined about $50 of beauty supplies and hours of her time. They typically do not act feminine much at all and demand to be in charge.
When men complain about high maintenance girls, they don't complain about a girl who is pleasant and just like to look pretty when she can. They are complaining about girls that DEMAND certain makeup and get pissy if you interrupt their beauty process and would never go swimming because it will make her look ugly when her makeup washes off. Fuck that!
They all look hot so of course they will get attention but overall men like Barbie princesses and do not like diva Queens.
Have you notice those guys who complain a lot about how expensive women are? Those are the one who like this type of girls. They generalize about woman beign expensive because they are talking about the woman they like: princesses. They have no eyes for regular women, only for their type: princesses. The rest of women aren't women, they are the atrezzo of life.
Usually those guys want a girl mostly because of his status, her beauty and sex. They don't really care about personality, sharing anything in common or so. They want a woman that help their status, that make them look "like a winner", a woman they can brag about and make other people feel envy. Also someone to fuck that looks good enaugh to get an easy boner.
They find high maintenance attractive if they are hot, but not many men like the fake looking girls with massive lips and cakey makeup. there should be a separate polls for these. high maintenance where they use a lot of procedures to make the hair perfect, skin tanned, nails on point... but still with no surgeries or injections they are fine with it. now when they start with procedures... not many men can tolerate this. and both of these types of girls are hardly considered girlfriend material for them. more like for hookups
Look, it's not that no man finds them attractive. A certain group of men actually do. A certain group of wealthy men actually prefer such women. And those are the kind of men these women end up with. But other kinds of men, especially your average Joe, doesn't really desire a woman like her.
Also, remember this scandal with an influencer (I forgot her name) who got exposed for having a 'fake' boyfriend? She was paying a male model/actor to pretend to be in love with her on camera. A lot of women do that online, believe it or not! It's easy to fake all of it. That particular influencer got exposed because she was misbehaving with the dude she hired and she was starting to control his life outside of his interactions with her (remember he was just a paid actor, he has a personal life outside of it that she shouldn't be controlling).
Whoa that’s crazy? She paid a guy to pretend it was her boyfriend?
You got it right.
Great question! These barbie high maintenance people who treat others poorly are usually manipulative. The guy finds her attractive and unattractive at the same time. The personality turns them off BUT given a certain special attention and the right excuses, some may overlook the personality and focus on the appearance. They say oh i just want her for this or that but those are excuses to disguise the fact he's caught in a web. The more attractive physically, the more said persons will put up with them. Thus you have a superficial relationship with both people having self serving intentions. It happens to a lot of people and thats just part of life. They key is to learn to focus on healthier relationships and learn.
They're not really attracted to them for who they are. They're attracted to their looks because it gets them hard for SEX. That's it. Trophy women. And most of these guys are just desperate. For Sex. The truth is they don't get the best type of guys. They just get guys who will anything just to have a girl that meets their fantasy. It's just a FANTASY. Because in truth, they haven't found the right girl who isn't like that and plus their pressured by society to pursue those women. So. No. They don't find them attractive by character. Just looks and that's it. Plus depending on the background of the said men, it's all about image. Only about 1 or 2 women in those photos are not like that. The rest are.
Men would Marry purely
For sex?
That's right. God designed men to desire sex more than for women. Sex is a marriage and marriage is all about having sex. It is not about happiness. That is that roman and Greek myth that was over-romanticised and over spiritualized to the point it made its way into the church, and now everybody ends up believing a lie and then whats to know why they're having divorces and cheating left and right.
Usually the saying goes "Men wants sex, Women wants love." It's an exchange. They know about the exchange so naturally they will have long term relationships and marriages. Not everybody understands that. That's why when a lot of people, especially women say they want to get married, I ask them "... ARE YOU SURE you WANT to get MARRIED? Do you KNOW what marriage is and entitles? That means he wants sex, you better have sex, and vice versa, OTHERWISE he'll go elsewhere." Men will provide whatever you want. But this is what they want: SEX. Whether it's out of love or for purely sexual gratification. It doesn't really matter. What DOES matter is this is how men function. The problem is sex has now become so dehumanized that now you need pornography, masturbation and sex toys to "supplement" what a healthy human being should be experiencing. But that is the sin of premarital sex and all that stuff. So yes, men would marry purely for sex. It's there greatest motivation as it is for some women too. If its mutual of course it will last. They will mutually do so.
That's why some women wished they were like men because no matter what we do, we always lose. Now the tables somewhat turned, a lot of men are bitter. And sometimes for the right reasons. That's why those women are High maintenance, Barbie attitude, glitzy women because they emulate the women from before the 1950s when women before feminism started, were actual women. Nowadays you got them all, trans included. So its putting men off. And society is at fault for pushing men to get that kind of woman or else their losers and then pressure us women to go beyond our means for the sake of attracting men sexually or else we're useless women. It's like a scale. Men will get angry at them be it if their attractive or not. They marry them eventually, but oftentimes their not really that happy. They just tolerate each other because they excite each other sexually. For us regular girls, we can care less about it but were too boring for them. And still, get shamed if we don't have anybody. But once that relationship is over between them, they come crawling back over here to US, and then when we're too guarded and tell them to kiss off, now we're all B's and hoes. Not all men are guilty of this, but a good majority are. And it is sad. I don't judge these women because not all are bad people. Just too much for me personally. But a good few act like jerks so they attract all of them. They use the weaker men and then move up in status. That's all. Again, because they provide sex and other values that fit the American view of women and femininity just like in other countries that value that.
Why do you think so many girls start experimenting sexually as young as 8 years old or oral sex at 11? Because they know. If they don't have sexual experience as much as possible, men wouldn't marry them or want them, which is only HALF-truth. By the time they realized what they've done, they've been used, abused and lied to that now most of those men and boys who had them don't want them for their partner count while the guy's count doesn't matter. She'll grow old and used or knocked up if not just disease while he will start over and get a younger girl to be with and marry. Very sad, but the reality. That's why I am glad I never dated, had premarital or done any of that stuff. Because many of them shame me and call me religious or a prude when so many of them are whores themselves. Again, not ALL men are bad or like that. But you might as well say 87% are. Leaving you with less than 23% of men to actually be with and who will actually love you with respect. That low of a number and is getting lower.
Okay miss if men want only sex? Than what any woman (hot or average) want?
Bullshit. Why women go to those who use her, like badboys?
And reject genuinely nice guys and pick them
Simply put.
1. A lot of us have been taught to go after those kinds of guys, and are often influenced. Be it through media, peers, adults, etc. Most of them are taught godly standards like I have. And many of them do not have the mindset I have. So they do it out of niceness.
2. Many of us have daddy issues, been abused, used and rejected of not just neglected in some way, shape or form, so we tend to develop unhealthy attachment styles as it states in attachment style theory and go after guys who aren't good for us.
3. Not every guy is a bad boy. A bad boy is a guy who is just that. Bad. He has a criminal record, he can't even get a job-job, steals, in gangs, a complete dropout for the hell of it, smokes weed, rapes, is a player, ends up in jail, etc. That is a bad boy.
The guys that your mostly referring to is a misunderstood lpne wolf type who is often caught around such people or simple and do bad things. Is confused, emotionally unavailable, and is sometimes out of control. They're very unstable minded, and may not necessarily have a decent home life, or have absent parents, abusive or none at all. Naturally us women have love to give so we try to help with that love, even try to fix him by playing martr at the expense of our own life.
3. If your nice of course most of us will reject you. Your NICE. everybody can be nice. But are you kind? You act too submissive and don't show much confidence in who you are as a man. Lacking assertiveness. A woman needs a man who is assertive, confident, healthy minded, stable and isn't submissive like a woman. Becuase now we're going to act like the man to your woman. And it's a turnoff and unattractive. HOWEVER, that does not mean we want to be treated badly. It means you have to step it up and do something with your life.
Take Link from Legend of Zelda for an example. Do you see him acting submissive even though he's portrayed as nice? NO! He is a sweet, gentle and kind man who does something! He may be scared at first, gets bullied depending in the game, but he goes out have courage and helps people. Not just Hyrule or Princess Zelda. He makes a name for himself for the sake of his country that he loves. Something sadly a lot of such men aren't having or they just don't exist as much as they did before feminism hit.
I would prefer a guy like that than most of these guys any day.
A good and kind man us better than a bad boy or nice guy. Plus if you're complaining about bad boys and rejecting so-called generally nice guy, then that says right there that that person isn't really a nice person. The one who gets to decide that it's us, it's not for you to judge whether or not if you are. No different would it be for me to say that I am a nice woman, and you would disagree. Because it's not for me to judge myself. It's for you to judge if I'm that woman. And if I'm not, then I have to be with somebody who does. Hypothetically speaking of course.
Okay so you basically said you and women want a guy who has those masculine traits and then is kind a nice, right?
But what I've seen, women go with guys who have masculine traits and they have ego issues and genuinely insult them on their face. How do you explain this?
And let me share my experience too. So till 15, I was a nice guy and used to respect women and stuff. But women didn't show much interest in me. Then I became friends with a bad boy and he told stuff and then I changed. I was the same person but only difference was I started to insult women, calling them all sorts of names... and you know what? I now fuck a pussy almost every weekend!
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"But what I've seen, women go with guys who have masculine traits and they have ego issues and genuinely insult them on their face. How do you explain this?" This is what I have to say on the matter and I highly suggest you listen to what I have to say as its advice I myself follow. You cannot pay attention to these dumb chicks. Their NAIVE. They don't want to listen to anybody, they think they know everything, etc, but ACTIONS speaks LOUDER than words. They'll say one thing and do another. No consistency, no credibility, just stupidity. Their brainwashed and lack wisdom. Many don't care for wisdom. So they can't tell a good man from a bad man for them. Can't help them. They can now only help themselves.
Yes, you know why? Because of their psychologically broken women. They're broken. They want to be used and abused because they haven't been shown anything else. It has nothing to do with you having sex with them. Their whores. Point Blink. They have the whore mentality and don't know what to do with themselves because they were taught that having premarital sex will get them, men, to marry. NOW by the time, they hit around my age a lot of men don't want them. They go after me, the virgin. But when I shut them down because they were manwhores, now their bitter and pissed. You should have NEVER allowed those kinds of stupid girls to affect you and change you into somebody your not. It will leave you miserable in the end. Because now good women will deter away from you because of your lifestyle is destructive. They don't respect themselves, but that doesn't mean you disrespect them either. You were just chasing after the wrong kind of woman. Because though they were women. They're not. Their little girls inside thinking their women and their not. They have yet to mature and grow up. A real woman doesn't do that. You were fine when you were 15. But again, you made a big mistake. Hoping from woman to a woman is a whore is no way to live man. Because now your soul tied to these women and they all are your wives spiritually. You don't realize what you've done. Now by the time you finally meet the right woman and god forbid have sex with her, you're polluting her with those women and she's having sex with all of them with your body. So no. Again, they aren't women. They're girls for a reason.
What your doing is why a lot of women are guarded like me and don't want relationships or be around men in those ways other than being just a friend. Those women do want love but they're trying to find it through sex until they learn the hard way that it's not how you obtain love. They don't sadly have any love to give because they don't even love themselves. That's why they freely give themselves away. They don't know what love is. They think love is sex from men, and it is not.
God's word is true when He speaks about following the world's way leads to damnation. People perish for the lack of knowledge. The world doesn't give a damn about you whether your living or dead. They just want to see you go to hell along with them, so they will spread toxic messages out there for vulnerable people like you and these women to feed off of. That's how they can control you and make money off of you. That's why they say as the saying goes, your worth more dead than you are alive.
I see. So I'm planning to write a book on female phycology. I've learned a lot about them. I pretty much know the bad boy phenomena. Actually I've in these years done a lot of girls so I've started to develop an understanding how to decode what a woman thinks and when to ask and how to ask for Sex.
So can you follow me, so I could DM you and ask stuff.
by the way you are a virgin so guys must hit on you. Don't you feel tempted for Sex? Like you have not liked any guy even a little?
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Are you are you really think all men want isSEX?
@ A woman wants a man who will love her, cherish her and take care of her. Somebody who reciprocated her love.
If this is what women want and men really only want sex, then men are not fit for women to marry men, but should Instead marry women.
As a “design “ women marrying for love men for sex, this doesn’t work bc you can’t get love as a deal. if it isn’t felt it isn’t genuine and of all someone wants is sex, they will never truly love.
😊I’m interested to know how you see this. Bc I think you always give well thought out answers and to me this doesn’t fit.
Of guus just want sex they don’t need to marry for that. Not do you need to marry for love.
The point is God has designed us to love and on fruitful of that lpve comes sex. Since people have redesigned what theu thibk God wants for them to do, this is why many guys are only in the pursuit of sex, while most women now use sex for the pursuit of love. That's why we marry. If not about what I really think. If you utilize what the word of God says, and look at how the world chooses to take out a scripture to follow their lust, you'll see what I mean. Love is not a feeling, love is what we do. It's not about marrying for love, it's about marrying because you will desire to share her Union in that love. Until people understand what that is, this is why people marry for the wrong reasons. And have sex for all the wrong reasons. Another word, as long as one does not have premarital sex, people practically can do whatever it is that they want, but it will be with much difficulty because now they're still abusing the rights of what it supposed to be for other people besides themselves. This is why modern day definitions don't work with the way how God originally designed. And you have the right idea when you point it out about citizen genuine will never be able to really love. Many have given up on the idea. That's why we seeing what we're seeing today. I am only speaking the reality. But just because I spoke to reality, that doesn't mean that that's how God originally designed it.
God knew what he was doing when he designed us. The problem is that signature has tainted the natural design that God had place in us. That's why when he had for Jesus to come down, Jesus had said what? That we must be born again. Which means we have to s*** out always, and crucify ourselves on the cross. Until you people understand this concept, this is why they have sex, get married, and do this back and forth without ever truly understanding the meaning of Love. While very few ever get to truly experience that love.
If we think logically about it, there is often a reason these women feel they need to doll themselves up. I think you will find that often the kind of women who excessively doll themselves up have low self esteem stemming from their unhappiness with their natural appearance. This lack of self esteem and inner confidence is often"artificially" boosted when they gauge their inner value on the the men they date and their outer value. Not all men do, but many men do actually find these women attractive. Ironically regardless of how attractive their appearance is perveived they are often easier to date as they unconciously beleive their value is tied to these superficial things. This may also be why they appear to date "more" men and why the relationships they have are often short lived. The successful relationships I have seen from woman who are dolled up that I know are woman who also possess inner beauty, self confidence and self esteem as well. Hope that helps.
Because men who are wealthy, can afford those types of girls.
Once again, as usual, this may offend some, but it is the truth.
One of the main reasons men seek relationships with women is for sex. This is not all we want but it is a huge driving factor. Anyone who tells you differently is telling you what you want to hear.
Now these women tend to spend a lot of time on their appearance because they know what their role is and they take care of their body. Also as I said wealthy men can afford them.
I personally would avoid these types of women even if I had millions. But if you think about it. If you take a more humble girl instead you will probably turn her in to princess because she went have to work. Plenty if money to shop. Plenty if time to workout and she will not want to lose her man so she will be hitting the gym. That's my 2 cents
We do find they sexually attractive, rich guys can handle these women because they can pay for what the women want. (She is a sex object he is a Financial object like a bank ). We do find these women very physically attractive hate having to take care of their high maintenance and we hate having to buy their crap and we hate the demanding part. The reason a rich guy can get away with dating these women is because he can pay for there needs the women know they can’t bitch about them making 500,000 dollars a year. With your average guy we can’t and so we hate there personalities not there beauty.
I can't speak for other guys but me personally I dont find those type of women attractive at all. I found the best woman and I love her so very much. She's a bit of a tomboy and I like that a lot about her. She's very down to earth and speaks her mind. She doesn't need to get all fancied up unless the occassion or work calls for it. Last night I was telling her I started to miss seeing her with her short natural hair rather than the extensions she's been wearing for work. I kind of miss seeing her freckles as well now that I think about it.
Most guys aren't good looking and usually can't play at this level, but the ones who are get tired women that place their value above a man's simply based on looks.
Physical attraction may allow a woman to be more noticeable, but it is only a single facet point in a multi-facetted competition. Yes, life and love are competitions.
So, while some may think your looks are an asset, others may see them a great liability.
But, to answer your question, most never means all and some guys are willing to use that face to open doors, no matter what the cost.
@Flower7 My wording stumbled a bit there I see. Sorry for that. To be more clear, I find women in this American culture to be lazy and somehow the've got it in their heads that they shouldn't have to work because they are beautiful. I've just grown sick of it and now I won't ever consider dating a woman from the USA. Woman from other nations are far easier to deal with. They have more realistic ideas when it comes to understanding what life is about and they don't take issue with a man being a man.
I'm not a man , yet I do believe they find femeninity attractive. Not every woman whos' put toghether and looks polished, in a"high mantenanced way" is materialistic or is only looking to become a trophy wife. In my personal case, I'm doing a PhD and yes Im kind of those woman phisically, I love looking beautiful and am tired of seeing how society "battles" appareance with innter personality and values. Why can't some of us have both worlds? Yes I do also aknowledge each person is different. You might meet women who are like the pictures and are superficial and guys who aim towards that.
Have you seen the men that these women are dating?
I used to do marketing with a lingerie company, so I used to work with models on the daily basis and do photoshoots with them. A lot of them (not all) are the women you have described - high maintenance/Barbie/glitzy type women.
A lot of these men are just bums who are players and got the girl by knowing how to sweet talk them. On the flipside, a lot of these men that they date are usually in their late 50s/60s and they are rich enough to deal with the girl's high maintenance lifestyle.
I don't really care that they have a boyfriend. I care that she's not attractive to me because I don't like their bullshit. If some other guy wants to put up with it then that's on him, but I genuinely do not find those kinds of women to be appealing even when they are physically attractive. Much of my sexual attraction and arousal is tied to how I feel about your personality. If it's not there, I simply can't be into you.
I don't believe that's true. Lots of high maintenance woman are very nice people, and they're in a happy long-term relationship. People who say high-maintance women are unnatracive say that, because they assume good-looking people and high maintenance woman aren't nice people. Which is totally is founded. Those women in the photos you've posted are very attractive
Many I know, are that way because they lack confidence and self-esteem. Their self-esteem is gained by making the most of themselves and transforming their self-image.
If I could afford to be high maintenance, I would be.
It's a known fact written on a scroll somewhere that is hidden in a temple in a far off land. That a woman no matter what she looks like will always be able to have a boyfriend. Now is this most men you know find these Barbie glitzy women unattractive? Who is to say that they are the best guys. You only see what they want you to see. Guys who seek out a woman purely for their looks I'm going to say that you don't want to be around these shallow mofos. Let them chicks have those dudes and if the dudes want to put up with their crap just sit back and enjoy the show.
They tend to either be shallow guys who want a similarly shallow girl for arm candy, or they tend to look like whipped dogs when out in public with their ritzy girlfriends.
I’m sure I’m being overly hash, but I’m just talking shit. I’m sure some guys have other reasons for being into them. Some can be somewhat driven career wise.
They are SEXUALLY attractive. But they are NOT attractive LIFE PARTNERS. Why? Well, they have a higher proclivity to have sequential partners (actually not a good, nor neutral thing), and to trivialize and dehumanize you down to your soul in the process of transitioning between you and her next partner. Or put simply, they have a higher tendancy to betray you. That is actually NOT ATTRACTIVE, because it undermines the foundation of trust in the relationship. You can see it even when the guy is trying too hard to please her. Deep down he actually doesn't trust her, but she is sexually intoxicating to him; because men have direct access to dopamine and so, he is trying to do everything he can to get his fix.
@update No one is saying they NEVER have LTRs or marraiges. Also, you can have multiple LTRs and marraiges, that's still a case of sequential relationships. That's not LIFE LONG partnership, thus being a LIFE PARTNER. But the point is that they have a higher tendancy to betray you, hence the high maintenance. Its not that there are never any genuinely good people among those women, who actually have humility, and understand that life is suffering, and that it's best to navigate life with who you've got.
But I guess the latter would negate "high maintenance", and be more like high standards. Because the latter allows room to exercise patience and long suffering.
To raise their sexual market place value, other women think, that guy has to have something special. Just put them on their place and don't take their crap. They are not used to that so they also think you are a different kind of guy. Make en respect you or walk away. Noone walk s away from them so they get confused. Never give a women like that power over you. She will instantly abuse it stand your ground or walk away. Able to walk away is your greatest power. Don't put her on a pedistule in stead of that put her in her place and don't care.
I think such guys probably grow up and were told that they need to find a princess and work all the life really hard to reach a lot in life and take care of there wife make her happy and princess and probably they are empty as this girls in there mind.
I don't find this girls attractive, what i want is rare this days because times changed a girl that is yes of course attractive , but she is also is simple, easy to talk to with whom you can be your self, don't need to pretend anything, that she shiness from with in and out, a bit crazy, funny and has that good energy coming from her. Thats what i want, but not this empty arrogant women.
Men feel like they want these women (that is why they are called trophies) but they don't want to admit it because it would mean that they are shallow or that they are simply not attractive enough to these women to get them. This is an animalistic tendency that men should steer clear of despite their natural desires. Men should instead go for good women who are mentally, emotionally, and physically healthy because they will give their children the best chances for both success and survival.
That is simple; they both have the same mindset, values, and insecurities. They both are into high social acceptance and flash. Both will seek the best and try to be what they believe is the top of the heap. Their entire relationship will be centered on materialism and the quest for high status, which in the end is their own creation and façade—state of mind. I know of one moderator on here that fits this mold.
Im man who prefers a nice, oppionated, self sufficient , passionate , intelligent, does not have to be a model, sense of humor meaning , clean humor and dirty humor, moderately athletic and adventurous, good personality. A must love animals , music, art, dance, movies, photography, etc.
Self care makes us care? Too much and there's no room for us. I don't know. You get what you look for. If you want a trophy wife then pay the price. If you need a companion well don't easily abandoned. If your looking for a fine honey bee, then start thinking from the view of one knee.
Their appeal doesn't have to be a binary, there's going to be a few guys that like that. Mostly guys don't, but that still doesn't mean those guys wouldn't get with those girls.
She can still have attractive qualities, I would just put up with the idea that she likes covering her face in shit all the time. It's just a matter of whether the negatives outweigh the positives.
But generally, I'm going to avoid such women unless there's special circumstances that brings us near each other a lot or she makes a move or whatever else.
So the answer, which isn't on the poll, is that they have attractive qualities, it's just not their High maintenance/Barbie/glitzy predilections that are attractive.
It's not that men find them unattractive. The women in the pictures are good looking. Most men just don't want to put up with the bullshit that comes along with dating a high-maintenance woman. However, some men can't resist these women. And the way they dress and behave is sure to get attention from all kinds of men.
Some relationships aren't for real... sometimes your partner you chose to be w can effect your career , if you work w people that are very "country club" many times it's for show. Also w gay men they use a girl like that for a "beard" and are not out, that testifies to thier manhood. Personally , I'm not a barbie doll type. High maintenance is one thing but being spoiled to the point of being a total bi#ch and sense of entitlement that stinks of guy repellant is not fun , cute, or whatever
You literally answered your own question there. "Most men find high maintenance / Barbie / glitzy type women unattractive" so by a little basic reasoning, not all men find them unattractive, which means some actively like women like that. Is it making sense now?
personally I think that they aren't unattractive,, I would love to be there boyfriend to see them smile when I get them the things that they love BUT I see why that is unattractive to some guys because most of the time they won't do anything or give anything back to their parent
For the record, I've messed with some real good looking girls, and despite their flaws in character, were much better looking than in the pics above. Barbie chicks are fake as fuck and usually quite average looking under all the makeup and hair extensions...
It's not that they are unattractive, quite often it is exactly the opposite. It's that the guys don't want to put in the effort.
High maintenance means that the guy is going to have to put in a lot of effort in the relationship. Gifts, dates, dealing with drama
This is a hard question, from my perspective.
Wild speculation:
So, these girls are chasing an ideal, right? Im thinking the guys that go for them are too. They both have an idea of what they need to be to live the "perfect" life. If your statement is true that they mostly have really good guys then maybe these guys are just as fake?
Question, would you say/think these guys are popular? Where do they fit in inside the norms of society?
I think that says more about you then men in general. You think men that will treat you like a whore are the “best types of guys”. There will always be some jackass that will pay some young women or more than one at a time for company until he gets bored or her or her youth fades. Most guys aren’t looking for prostitutes.
You do realize there is a difference between dating someone for sex and dating for marriage. Some guys definitely like that type of girl, but most would just want to date her for her looks and sex, which to be honest is the same thing most high maintenance women seem to want anyways.
There are plenty of low IQ muscle head male counterparts to them that do find them attractive. Just because high IQ men are put off doesn't mean they can't find men, there are more low IQ low impulse control people around in general. Their lack of impulse control leads them to breed more.
Attractiveness and desirability are two completely different concepts. Sure, those girls are fun to look at, but I'd shoot myself if I had to spend more than a night or two listening to their childish whining or their self absorbed notions of themselves.
You've got the idea! :- ) But. don't kill yourself: they aren't worth the bullet.
:- )
I have dated these stertyped women before. I found that they are arguably the most insecure creatures on this planet other than Sociopaths. Most men are intimidated by them and never consider talking to them.
Once you get past all the hair and make up. Who is she? Won't know that until you ask. And I have a lot of beautiful friends that come along with brains.
Some guys are visual creatures and like pretty things to look at.
They are attracted to that female energy and the princess types can them feel more manly and kicks in their instincts to protect and provide for their partner, If you look at it from the traditional sense.
But as I said before, this only "some men" - there others that do prefer a balance where they will have some of those aspects whilst having a down to earth personality.
It all comes down to preference really...
My ex used to tell me that he liked the fact that I was natural; no hair dye, my real nails, no make up and never altered my appearance in any way other than the occasional mascara... and even when we first met said specifically he wasn’t attracted to those kinds of women and yet he cheated on me with one... so who ducking knows.. I think maybe he wanted my type to marry but was in a situation where he had the opportunity to fuck one of those girls, and he did..
Lol men always say they don’t like fake girls yet doesn’t seem like it does it with the Behavior around them
Because unlike the angry types, those girls will go out of their way to 'charm' you. Some are genuinely approachable and decent to talk to - those looks aren't perfect, but being reasonable/not excessively demanding is a quality in its own right (essential, even)
Like I said - they are not haters. They do the best they can.
Men unlike women don't have the choice of choosing among multiple interested women, so they either get with whatever they can get or they jerk off alone and fill up their browsing history with porn sites.
When you say 20%, that sounds like a very small number, but it's actually just 1 in 5. It's not actually that hard to be that 1 in 5. Consider this: in the West, in general, 60-70% of people are overweight, which means that 60-70% of men are overweight. Of the remaining 30-40%, most of those guys aren't in shape either, they're usually skinny. If you hit the gym 3 times a week and eat right, physically you can be the 1 in 5 in that sense. It's that easy. It also isn't all about who has the most money. Many guys with money struggle with women, many guys with nowhere near as much money do not.
@englisc Indeed. Although I wouldn't say it is easy to land on the top 20% per se. Often we refer to the top 20% as those exceptionally desired men (rich, muscular, has assets, house, SUV, travels a lot, has lots of women swarming after them etc...). Hence why some say "alpha males" because women are swarming around them.
Sometimes even if you are one of those top 20% that may not result in getting women either. My peers are still very puzzled how I am unable to get a girlfriend. They say out of everyone I should have the best chances. I am not sure if that's true.
In the end of the day I say "Just be comfortable with what you have. You may lose what you take for granted. But never aim low. Aim high!".
Well the 20% figure really comes from the work of Rollo Tomassi, as well as things such as hypergamy. Red Pill ideas. The trouble is that MGTOW don't properly understand hypergamy. If you look at Rollos work on this, he talks about alpha/beta. The money thing, "provision", is the beta side of that equation. Beta guys (MGTOW) obsess over money because they're on the beta side and don't see the alpha side of the equation. They don't understand the nature of the game.
@englisc fair enough. I was recommended by one senior here to read more of Rollo tomassi his blog. I think it was the rational male? I have it bookmarked so i can read it once my time isn't drained by university 🎓
However it would be unwise to say that you do not need money to maintain women. Isn't that so?
Yeah, that's it, Rational Male. His essays are good, but quite lengthy. I prefer to watch and listen to his Youtube videos.
Well, yes and no. To understand this I'd suggest looking at what Rollo says about "trans-actional vs validational sex", and "the importance of genuine desire".
On the beta side, which is where guys really use money to get/keep a woman, that's when there's usually a lack of genuine sexual desire, and thus the sex is "trans-actional". Those are the guys who get cheated on and divorce raped. The reason MGTOW guys fear that so much is because they're all on the beta side, and don't know how to get to the "alpha" side of the equation - which is possible if you understand how that all works. But yeah you should watch/read Rollos stuff definitely.
It’s more shows they take care of themselves. “I’m considered high maintenance” but I don’t ask a woman to maintain me. I maintain myself. I mean going to the gym is one of though things.
Plus what’s high maintenance to some when women know Exactly what want and how we want is considered “a bitch”
So what sort of guys you pick?
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I met a guy on OkCupid, I’m not a girly girl, I can polish my nails sometimes to feel more pretty, I love skirts, mostly I wear pants. The guy I met don’t care about those type of women, he wants me for me.
I like dressing up and doing my makeup, hair, lashes, etc. but that doesn’t mean I’m a bad person or unattractive. I’m confident in myself and I entertain men who cherish me and value me and prove their love to me. I don’t even pay attention to men who try to tear down “high maintenance” girls like myself (even though looking good doesn’t make me high maintenance since I support myself to the fullest and don’t ask anybody for anything) because men like that aren’t compatible with me. Simple
Keep in mind of the high divorce rates.
Some guys are stupid and just as materialistic as those girls.
You seem to have an immature understanding of this.
Most high maintenance girls aren't actually girlfriend material. They're trophies. Walking, sometimes stupidly talking, trophies. Something to brag to the boys about but their value beyond that is limited.
Back in most parents' years, these sorts were stereotyped as helium-voiced annoying-as-nails-on-chalkboard often simple-minded dyed blonde bimbos that looked nice but no one had respect for & most respectable people laughed at.
Because they're liars. They 100% find it attractive because these women are also very needed (emotionally, mentally, and/or financially) and one thing men need is to be needed. What they don't find attractive is when the relationship fails, and they find that they spent thousands of dollars on these women so then they get mad claiming they were used when really they knew what they were getting in to all along.
One is personality the other is looks. Just because someone looks high maintenance that doesn't make it so. Same thing the other way.
But if you have a certian level of attractiveness then you are always going to be able to attract someone so you will always be able to hook someone else when your current partner realises how much hard work you are.
Men do like them.
Im never short on dates and have yet to be turned down ever.
Men can say one thing as much as they want, but at the end of the day they choose women like us.
My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard, dam right it's better than yours
They are like commercial items. Mostly for show and some still get into that. However I dont see how unless the man also is more for the image. Their whole life revolves around how they look to people more than who they are, mostly Im sure there's some real good hearted glamour girls. Just typically they dont give a shit about real people. Which in turn like I get turned off because of the personality associated with most of these girls.
Those types of girls usually are that way because their parents have lots of money and they've been used to being spoiled all their lives. Most men dating those types of girls are after money or think this is the best they are gonna be able to do.
I dated someone high maintenance and she was pretty plain but thought of herself as absolutely beautiful. She expected me to spend my entire salary on her, gifts, meals even buying her groceries. In the end I discovered she didn't care for me. We were in a relationship for her convenience. Next time I want someone down to earth who loves me for me. If not I'll stay single.
Because, for one, only the filthy rich guys go for them and, for two, they're really nothing but trophy women for those guys.
Well when you see a princess's beauty and tight little body you think the sex is going to be amazing and that will take your mind off her bullshit but once you find out the full name they left out. Pillow when they said princess. Pillow princess. That is who they usually turn out to be. If you are uneducated on the term pillow princess ask and I will gladly teach so we may all come together and cause these to become extinct
I very much enjoy serving a high maintenance woman in a relationship, without any expectations that she'll ever let me have any penetrative sex with her, and I love spoiling her rotten and worshipping the ground she walks on.
Strictly Arm Candy and sex. No one but desperate or rich men want high maintenance women. They may look like a million but they think they are worth 10 million. But Santa mike like them too because he always likes his Ho Ho Ho's.
Nearly every woman has a boyfriend at least at some point. Your question kind of implies it is rare they aren't alone and totally unable to find a man, but can you give any example of a common 'type' of woman unable to find a partner?
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