What do women find most confusing about men?

[Omario2049]

Come on ladies, state the things about men that confuse you the most that you can't seem to figure out.

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Also guys can state what they think women are most confused about or just don't get about men.

[AmandaYVR]

I don't think I would use the word confusing much anymore.
Probably the one very, very complex thing is...
When a guy will be/is spooked by the mere thought, or suggestion, of a relationship. (There is no definitive answer to this; I'm just sayin.') Because, to be on the receiving end of this, you tend to default anything that is not a definitive 'yes', to 'Well, I guess he's not into me.' But the older me knows that this is not actually always the case. It's the commitment, or the relationship, or the pressure of being 'the guy' (and a fear of failure, or a feeling of "I don't know if I'm up for this") that can put them off, or be the fear, or the worry. It's not always about you/the particular girl, being not right, or inadequate, or something. Yet, it all manifests as a sort of distance, or aloofness, or a push/pull, or waffling, or inconsistent behaviour.
This, I think, is the single-handed most difficult thing to gauge in men.
And maybe men would say something similar, about girls. But I don't think the odds will fall quite the same, typically. Girls are more likely to want commitment, and guys are more likely to be extremely wary of it.

[Prideful]

Nice point of view. I can at least suggest women to avoid clubs and bars to get higher chances of long term men, same goes for tinder or whatever place to get sex on the first date.

[AmandaYVR]

@Prideful Thanks.
Yeah, definitely.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I can't generalize. So i am speaking about some guys.
Firt of all i dont understand why some guys think it is ok to sleep around with so called easy girls- who are also human and have feelings- but also they think that they can't be easy although they do the same thing and marry so called non easy girls which is kinda hypocritical. -I dont believe in the term "easy"- .
I also dont understand the hate towards sex-workers but also many guys use their service and so support it. Why would you support something you hate? Even only watching them, you support it. You dont have to date them or like them but why the unnecassary hate? They did not hurt you.
I also dont understand why some guys complain about women that they can get sex easily but also they make it easy for women. Dont make it easy for women, if you dont like it! These same guys also except from women to not be easy but themself can be easy just because women dont make it easy for men. So you want women to say No to you and dont jump on you easily since you can't take responsibility of your own dick and therefore say Yes to every women which makes you have no self-control lool. The metaphor with lock and key is also extrem ridiculous. You are not a key aka object. This is the same with saying that non virgin men are second-hand dildo and so have less worth since no woman want a second-hand dildo or non virgin/promiscuos guys are like used lollipop and noone would want to lick/eat an used lollipop lol. So there is no justification for slutshaming ONLY women

This whole post is only about some guys since i can't generalize men. I am also very optimistic and so i think majority of men are cool and great. I am also sorry if i offended anyone

[bamesjond0069]

This is confusing to you because you are only looking at it from your point of view. Try to put yourself in a mans shoes. Us proposing is relatively equivalent to a girl giving up her virginity. So isn't it ok for a woman to make whatever hoops and requirements to decide to do such a thing? Maybe she is waiting for marriage, maybe she wants it on her prom night, etc etc. No matter what you're not going to say she "owes" it to any man that she doesn't decide. Its her choice no matter how rational or irrational she is. This is how men are with marriage. Its really no concern to you what men decide is what it takes to decide to propose. Thats something special that is our commitment to give and we get to determine what it is we want to make the requirements. Thats the first off thing. Jist as men are not entitled to a womans body, women are not entitled to a mans commitment. Now unless you think men ought to decide for women when they give up their virginity, you should not try to dictate when and to who men propose.

[hi_it_is_me123]

I prefere young virgin men. Non virgin men are turn off to me but i am not hypocritical. Just dont slutshame women as easy just because you can't control your dick

[hi_it_is_me123]

I already read many posts of you. I know how you think. It senseless to discuss with you since i also spoke about it with long ago. Maybe you dont remember. I dont want to discuss it again. So i wanna agree with disagree. I also did not generalize and i think many guys are not like these guys i mentioned in the first post. I also never said men should be dictated to marry anyone. It is ok if you dont want to marry or to commit but make it clear in the first place so you dont waster her time, otherwise it is manipulating/toxic

[bamesjond0069]

Its not hypocritical. Men and women are not the same. Smh.

[hi_it_is_me123]

They are biologically ain't same. But this does not mean a shit. Just because you have dick, you dont have to behave different. I know enough guys who wait till marriage aka can commit easily. This has nothing to do with gender. Proposing ain't same as giving up your virginity. This is ridiculous. Too many women are afraid of slutshaming. If slut-and age-shaming ain't a thing, women would not care whether a man propose or not. Single women in their 30s are shamed on for not being married in U. S, asia/middleeastern. Too many women are pressured to marry to feel worthy. If this ain't a thing, they would not care. For example in germany and austria average age for marriage is 30+ because women ain't pressured to be married for example. I know many couple who stay together at the same home for many decades and have kids without being married. In my experience women ain't pressured to marry in austria/germany to the point they are not worried about male's commitment or marriage. More and more people in austria see marriage just as a contract which turn off many people and they prefere to stay together forever without getting married.

[Inbox]

@hi_it_is_me123 In other words, it's all about me me me, women are victims, and the world is unfair? I commend you however, for not trying to generalize all men like most Feminists do (aka racist thinking).

Perhaps you may see something I don't, but from my humble POV, you're still making the same fundamental mistakes like most Feminists do.

Typically, idealists and SJWs have a poor understanding of Economics, Business, Politics, etc, but humor me: do you know why the 2008 Financial Crisis occured? [I promise this is going somewhere]

[metallicbison]

It seems like a lot of your confusion comes from seeing men as a monolith. I'd be willing to bet the men complaining about prostitutes are not the same ones paying for them. The same could be said about the men complaining about women having easier access to sex and the men having sex with those women.
As for what you said about slut shaming, I think humans have a tendency to justify and find reasons to logically support their base instincts. You see this in many realms relating to sex including homosexuality, sex with a promiscuous partner, and necrophilia. None of these actions really hurt anyone, but for a variety of reasons all aren't reproductively successful (being gay means less offspring, a promiscuous partner is more likely to cheat, necrophilia... well you get the picture). So we as a species have evolved to have most individuals be naturally disgusted by these things (with some caveats like the possible existence of the "gay uncle" gene and such). Sure this disgust reaction can be removed but naturally it is present. And because the instinct is there people will naturally look for reasons to justify it, whether it be that "God hates f**s" or that getting a woman to have sex with you "should" be a challenge while not realizing their base human reactions are not necessarily moral even by their own standards.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Inbox i dont generalize but manwhore like still get offended. So excepting from men to have control over their dick is feminism? So i am feminist for not wanting easy cunts like you? These are all facts in my first post. You are just get offended because you are a fucking whore. Is religions feminist for wanting men to be not used up cunts like you? I just answered the question fucktard and i dont generalize, i talked only about SOME guyss, i fucking told majority of men are ok but you get offended somehow any think it is all about women being victims? How fucking stupid are you. So not being simp and cuck for men make us feminists idiot. You are just mad because women dont want to be cucks for your used up ass. Just fuck. You are the one with fucking victim mentality and selfish since you are fucking offended just because cunts like you can't take responsibility of their own dick
I am done.

[hi_it_is_me123]

Look at the replies of many gagers who fucking insult women. I dont generalize men but i get hate. I am done. Go fucking show your hate antiwoman comments from male gagerss. Now not simping for men make us feminazi but many male gagers can insult, generalize and talk shit about women while i can't do it without getting hate by hypocritical people. You all did not even know what antiman is. Gag become home of incels. I wish thousand of feminazis came to gag, so you all beg for posts like mine. I am done with this hypocrisy of you all.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@metalicbison i am not confused and good points. I like your reply. What you said make sense. As i said i am just talking about some guys. I think majority of guys are ok

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Inbox sorry for being mean. Your post made me angry. It made angry how you ignored many points of mine and project things on me. I am just done with dealing hypocritical people who get angry because i reject due to their promiscuos behaviour.

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Inbox i think you misunderstand. This whole has nothing to do with swjs, feminism etc. Religions want men to not be promiscuos for example. I grow up with a religion that even forbid men to look at women in a sexual way. It just really made angry how you project so much on me. I know a lot men who are virgin and they dont want to sleep around. Are they feminists? I wait till marriage and so virginity is important to me. I post this post because i was approached by promiscuos/non virgin who shamed on me just because i prefered virgin men who wait till marriage

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Inbox i am really sorry for overreacting like this

[Inbox]

@hi_it_is_me123 ... Okay, you're making a lot of assumptions about me, but let's clear a few facts up: 1) I was never upset and 2) I never overlooked your points - in fact I clearly wrote that "I commend you (means I admire)" for NOT generalizing AND I was going to address your points, but LATER on in our discussion because I wanted to get the FUNDAMENTALS behind policy making based upon historical precedence first so we can have a complete picture.

Personally, I think your argument has everything to do with SJW and Feminists because I only hear your type of arguments from only Feminists and SJWs.

You never answered my question though, do you know why the 2008 Financial Crisis occured?

[Yourfriend2021]

I see you ant a virgin guy but are you a virgin? What a guy was with a girl and she cheated on him and now he's not a virgin anymore, the same things for women. If a virgin woman wanted to be with one man her whole life and they were together, but he cheated and now she's single, isn't she a used lollipop too?

[hi_it_is_me123]

@Yourfriend2021 i actually was making fun of the metaphor with key and lock. I dont think that a non virgin guy is an used lollipop lol. I actually respect promiscuos/non virgin men and women as long as they use protection and they dont play with people aka not manipulate people for sex/money. Non virgin/promiscuos people ain't automatically bad people. I really dont care about them. I only slut-shame cheater, player/fboys or fgirls and golddiggers since all of these play with people's feelings to get sex, money, attention etc. A promiscuos/non virgin person can be very honest and explain their intentions in the first place without playing people's feelings or without using them. So if a promiscuos guy tell you that he only wants sex in the first place before having sex with you, then i dont think he is bad since he told you his intentions so you dont have to waste your time and bodycount.
So you are right

[Yourfriend2021]

Ok I agree with but I don't date promiscuos girls. Lots of people aren't virgins because they were cheated on and still want to find love.

[hi_it_is_me123]

It is ok. It is your dating-preference

[hi_it_is_me123]

You can date who you want

[Belgie]

Women don't get
a) Men don't do subtle signs. That's like being psychic. We're not psychic.
b) We are simpler than you can believe.
c) Just because we don't answer a message right away doesn't mean anything - we can't multitask.
d) Sometimes we just need to be alone and quiet and veg out.
e) The silent treatment doesn't work (We don't notice. See d)
f) We don't measure time the same way.
g) We don't like jealousy or women playing hard to get. There's 7 billion people. We'll find someone who isn't playing.
h) There is so much we don't notice. Our perception threshold is lower than you can possibly imagine. We are practically blind. We have names for the 9 colours we know, and have 2 adjectives for them "Light" and "Dark". You think we're going to notice you got your hair tinted? We won't. You want us to choose between the Egg shell blue thing and the Sky blue thing? They're both blue. We don't care. Pick one.

[Birdlegs]

This is a nit pick but egg shell is a white-ish color😂 I agree with you completely tho that’s just definitely not blue

[Belgie]

@Birdlegs This is a nit pick, but "Egg Shell Blue" is its own colour.

Robin egg blue, also called eggshell blue, is a shade of cyan, approximating the shade of the eggs laid by the American robin. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_egg_blue )

[Birdlegs]

Oh wow you learn something new everyday

[Qdbrown]

Oh the ironry. After reading comments, oh woes me, why do guys keep messing around and looking at other women instead of me?

What is she looking for? Very sexy and tall guy who everyone wants. He gives her some time and then moves on. Why?

The rest of the commitment-grade that want relationships are boring and not good enough. Virtually invisible...

But why? Why is it so hard? Why can't he just give up and be with just me?

[Gry_Odegaard]

Honestly Why they do stuff to get themselves hurt, it's not really rational for example some guys in my class were putting their hands over the Bunsen burner for as long as they could and some got severe burns... Like just why... Fire Hot... We have had a million years to learn this 😂

[Miristheiss]

Good point. A lot of stuff is foolish.

The bottom line is... men, overall, are more of the risk takers and more willing to take on danger.
Men are the ones who build and explore and hunt and defend throughout history so this is more necessary. Women protected the children and safety was more necessary for them.
This is the core at the root of brain differences between risk taking between men and women on the macro level.

[Gry_Odegaard]

In Norway it was a bit different due to the climate and culture we have everyone pitched in even the children

But I mostly think I agree

Could also be that men are more competitive I think how as women are naturally geared to cooperate more

This is also why we work better as a team and men do better as individuals

After all it was a dare

[Omario2049]

Well us guys like to push ourselves and figure out what this vessel we were assigned can do. It's not like u get a brochure with it at birth. Also brochures aren't even realizable accurate representation because they either exaggerate or play it safe. So yeah, we wanna know what we really can do. It comes in quite handle.

[007kingifrit]

the truth is women are more likely to have sex with men who do stuff like this though. they find danger hot

[SupremeWarlord]

I think this a more a thing among kids. I used to do it also.

[TheGreatAwan]

"Why do they think using logic, why don't they base all their decisions on hormonal mood swings and their genitals like me?"

"Why do these disgusting nice beta guys keep trying to sleep with me? Ugh how rude! They are supposed to serve me and campaign for my feminist rights while alpha douche Chads who treat me like meat pound my pussy and eventually make me a single mom of a child that the beta boys will eventually raise? Do these silly betas not understand this?"

"Wow he's short/ugly/small pp/not Chad? Why does he think he deserves to live? He should kill himself while I laugh with joy."

[WolfKvlt]

Most women seem to think they are going to be the first priority of a healthy high value Man. They need to realize he needs to put certain things before them as to maintain the value he holds. Doesn't mean they will not receive the love and affection they desire, but they need to learn to cherish those moments dearly instead of letting their own attention wander. Loyalty is the most attractive thing above dedication.

[spuitkaas]

Why men like to seek new people for sex. Like you can have great sex with someone, but they always stay curious of how sex with new people would be.
I don't have that because first time sex with someone is often just shit so I'd rather build a sexual relationship with someone instead of seeking new people all the time. Men seem to have this less?

[TheOracle10]

its a biological function, men benefit from multiple partners, while women benefit from having one partner.

[Coulis]

What @Oracle10 said. You can't knock men for this.

[Coulis]

What @TheOracle10 said. You can't knock men for this. When you're young and prime childbearing age you're looking for that love and you have that jealousy for them because you want to protect that stores. But after you've had your kids and you have that real love of a mother with her children and your kind of tired of him you don't get so jealous about stuff like that.

[Coulis]

*sperm source (biologically speaking) as well as protection and security for your offspring.

[chris_987]

Men actually increase there testosterone levels by have sex with different partners that have sex with the same girl. So blame biology I guess

[Philippa_Sallow]

It's getting better as time goes on, but the lack of respect for menstruation. I believe getting kicked in the balls hurts, so why try and downplay my equivalent?

With some guys it seems like more of a competition in their eyes as to who can take more pain, and that's just childish.

[007kingifrit]

I've never seen a man give a woman a hard time for having a period. is this something you experienced personally or just social media saying it?

[Philippa_Sallow]

@007kingifrit I've experienced it multiple times. It's not that these guys make fun of it (not usually at least) but more that they undermine it and make out that your overreacting

[natured]

How some of them can't make up their mind...
If you tell them you don't care about a guy for money, they tell you that you have no values and you have no respect for yourself.
If you tell them you want a man that has ambition, they call them gold diggers
NO MATTER what you tell them, they will throw negative junk at you, I just saw this at the MyTakes I wrote.
Sadly, only men had to throw JUNK not women...
- CONFUSION -

[Aimée__LJ]

Getting angry over uncontrollable situations. Then projecting that anger onto someone else.

[Omario2049]

Please elaborate on that. I'm not quite sure I understand?

[Aimée__LJ]

Getting angry that you are stuck in traffic for example then taking that anger out on a friend/ girlfriend/ family member. As if they could have fixed the situation.

[crazy8000]

That's a common human behavior that doesn't have to do with gender.

It usually has to do with multiple reasons.
To much stress without recovering.
Mental unbalance.
Health.
Shitty nutrition habits.
Anxiety.
Depression.
Slept to little.
To much exercise.
To little exercise.
Attitude problems.
...

[Aimée__LJ]

@crazy8000 just something I've more commonly noticed in men

[Cathy7734]

@Aimée__LJ
It seems to me that men are more physical when lashing out at people.

[TheOracle10]

opposite for me.

[007kingifrit]

usually this is cuz the woman just won't let him be angry. we need to be angry sometimes and we didn't ask it to be fixed

[Aimée__LJ]

@007kingifrit not true. Men are allowed to be angry, it's when they take their anger out on someone else that we don't allow it, because that is toxic. Go punch a punching bag or learn to talk about your emotions in a way that isn't blaming everyone else for your problems.

[mobiusforniner]

I feel I have better control of this than most. Nit to defend it, but it stems from a feeling of losing composure. men will act out when we feel pushed into a corner with no other options. doesn't make it right and I've been victim to this from my own dad

[muscularbumblebee]

How obsessed with sex (most) are. Yes it’s biological I know blah blah but still

[Omario2049]

Females are just as obsessed with sex as men. Only difference is women get sex thrown at them vs guys who have to chase it.
Are you sure that's what u meant?

[muscularbumblebee]

Yes. We may think about sex all the time but when we find a guy the guy doesn’t have to think ‘is she an F girl after sex’

[Omario2049]

So is it that u're worried about a guy thinking u're a "F girl"? Or are you saying girls have to worry about if a guy is a "F boy" after they have sex?

[muscularbumblebee]

No girls have to worry if the guy is an f boy even later into the relationship where as guys usually don’t as they know girls can get sex anyway why would they be after that guy for just sex specifically when she has many attractive ones

[Omario2049]

Are u sure u really know what a relationship even is? Because u can't call a guy a F boy even he took part in relationship activities and just because it didn't work out it the long run u call him a F boy. Guys only take u serious if u require them to. Guys only take u serious if u are relationship and wife material. Meaning u conduct urself in a way that both makes him proud to be associated with u and also makes him feel as though he can trust u to keep his property safe.
So are u sure u're not a F girl calling a guy a F boy?

[Vietnemin]

I’m not obsessed I just would like for it to happen soon with a pretty girl but I think about other stuff too.

[HiveBee]

Yea until you make her cum and then she wants sex 10 times more than you do and she gets angry if you skip a day...

[Wenchantedy]

Why do men easily get annoyed or angry/express anger so bluntly? And what's the reason for men seeing women as sensitive? (Could be how history shaped people?)

[Birdlegs]

Testosterone mainly and lots of men are really emotional but that’s how they express it. Personally I’ve never gotten my feelings hurt before but it’s pretty easy to hurt a girls feelings so that might be why.

[weeee]

I guess its just more acceptable for men to be more aggressive? Just a guess. Im not really the type to lose my temper quickly.

[MCheetah]

Women seem to think all men think the same way they do; needlessly complicated and as vague as possible. But in reality, most men are simple and very easy to understand. We like sex, food, success, and love. It's not hard to figure out.

[Daisy90]

So a girl says she likes you and you say you like her too but then nothing happens even after she asked you out. No messages or anything. Confusing.

[Omario2049]

Why does that sound like an online dating thing?🤔
I've never heard of that in real life. Are u talking about in person or online?

[Daisy90]

Started online then met in person by chance and moved on to texting, everything seemed to be going well but it's 6 months down the line and don't hear from him but he said he likes me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Omario2049]

I bet he's sitting there wondering the same thing. I know this may sound like an insane idea but hear me out... Maybe u could ask him this exact question. If it's even via text.

[Vietnemin]

Maybe he’s nervous you’re going too fast?

[Daisy90]

I don't think it's a case of going too fast... but maybe I came across too needy? It's been 6 months and we've met 3 times planned (ish) and the occasional passing in the street.

[HiveBee]

To me this looks like a case of:

"Man afraid to make moves, for he fears being seen as a creep or desperate."

Ladies, i know you have all been trained to believe that every man who likes a girl, will simply chase her down like a wild animal.

Well im sorry. It sucks, but i think most men fear to do such a thing. Not because we fear rejection. No. Because we fear you, the girl, seeing us as overly sexual lustful desperate creeps.

I know you have a definitin of creep. It is different than what we are doing. That does not fix the problem lol.

Nothing will fix it.

Alternatively, he just doesn't like you. But i mean why would he bother in the first place? Could be the case though.

I just say what i said because i know I've done exactly what you said OP. Because i was afraid of the girl being offended by me being... a dude. Lol. Might sound crazy to you but many men feel this so dont be surprised when the only guys who chase girls are creeps. The normal dudes are afraid ti make you think they are creeps even though they are not.

Get it? Lol...

[bamesjond0069]

He likes you but just enough to smash or hang but only if you put in 100% of the effort. Basically you meet the absolute bottom bar and no more.

[GingerGuy]

@Daisy90 How do you think you might have come across "too needy"? Sometimes (at least for me), if she's not showing enough interest back (example if I'm always texting first, etc), then I assume she's not really interested and I'll just stop. I'm not sure if that's the case with you, but if I do it, that's why.

[Daisy90]

@GingerGuy I seem to be the one making contact first, it could go a couple of weeks and I haven't heard from him and then I give in and message. I also say that I look forward to seeing him or would like to see him if I know he's going to be in the area, hint things like that... maybe to him that's needy or desparate? I think my problem is that I'm either too reserved so guys think I'm not interested or come across too desparate.

[GingerGuy]

It doesn't sound desperate at all. My guess is maybe he was never really interested to begin with. With some people, everyone likes to be liked, so they might give it a try, but if you're not interested to begin with, it likely won't change. With women, they can reject a guy because most likely, there will be another there before long, it's not usually like that for us guys lol. I think that's why guys don't (sometimes) automatically reject a woman, even if he's not really interested.

[Daisy90]

I have been starting to think he's not interested, but would be surprised if there wasn't another girl whose interested in him and he's a really lovely guy and good looking. I would just prefer to be told if he wasn't interested.

[GingerGuy]

Yes we all would. Unfortunately everyone wants to avoid anything "awkward" at all costs these days. Just look at how ghosting has not only become common, but almost "normal" and acceptable from some. They think nothing of it at all, both men and women. Very sad.

[007kingifrit]

that's a technology problem

[Yourfriend2021]

I don't mind commitment but I don't think marriage is what it used to be in the 1950s. I want someone faithful that doesn't cheat, but lots of women do and they always say that men are the ones that cheat. You can't put all men or women into one category.

[nsindiana]

When guys talk about the future... doing things together, going places, spending holidays together, but as soon as a woman starts talking all that with the very same guy... he says it's getting too serious.

[chris_987]

He probably didn’t think you where the one so he was speaking hypothetically because if a guy is ready to be with you he is not gonna hesitate

[Thatasianlove16]

why guys only get in a relationship just to have sex then leaves. It’s mighty fucked up

[Omario2049]

Was it mutually agreed by both of u that is was a relationship? Because a lot of females think just because u're having sex with a guy means u're in a relationship. Not quite so easy.

[Thatasianlove16]

Ya we would wait until we are in a relationship he would ask me out, go on dates, he’d be the one to say I love you first than next month leave

[Thatasianlove16]

And trust me I would ask what I did and they would always say it was on them everytime so I never know what I can do to do better especially when I wait for commitment anyways

[Shy_Steve]

Not every Guy is like that, But you Girls keep dating the ones that do all the time.

[Omario2049]

@Thatasianlove16 Sounds like u have a fuck boy addiction.

[Thatasianlove16]

@Shy_Steve where did I say every guy is like that lol

[Shy_Steve]

You just said Guys so I was Guessing you meant all Guys, Sorry.

[Cathy7734]

@Thatasianlove16
I've seen that too - asking him about the trouble in the relationship and he says it's 100% him. I also wait for a commitment.

[Thatasianlove16]

@Cathy7734 exactly!!

[Thatasianlove16]

I literally wait to weed out fuck boys but okay lol

[Omario2049]

@Carthy7734 That's kind of the traditional idea behind dating, delay sex in general. If u always make every guy wait until he proved to u he's serious, urife would be better and we'd all respect u.

[Thatasianlove16]

What a woman does with her body shouldn’t negate whether or not you respect her. If she’s safe she’s fine

[scentoflavender]

Ego and pride. You'll have a guy who will shoulder a burden he cares nothing about for the sake of pride or this is what a man does.

[chris_987]

Ego and pride is a human thing, women don’t date short broke dudes because of ego. Especially since you make enough money to take care of a man

[The_sam]

Not all

[Omario2049]

Women buy stuff all the time they don't want and often can't afford just to impress people they don't know or evencare much about. Women horse stuff they don't need. Is that an ego thing? Leave people alone with whatever gives them a sense of purpose.

[scentoflavender]

To address you all in one reply, yes, as a whole ego and a price are universal human traits. However, men will typically cripple or debilitate themselves over their pride and ego. I've seen it with men close to me personally. I've seen it with the men who work for me. I've seen it with my friends husbands and sons. Women have ego and pride, yes. But the odds of it affecting them in a debilitating way are much less than a man.

[chris_987]

Ok a women who makes a lot of money would much rather find a guy who makes a lot of money rather than settle for less. And if she can’t find that guy she end up a lonely cat lady so how is that not as debilitating as anything a mans ego won’t allow him to do? You don’t date women or care about them in that way so your not look at them as a life partner so you don’t care.

[hopelesslyhappy]

Why most men refuse to communicate at all! I've actually heard the words: the less you talk about things the better. That's the opposite of true lol. As humans with out own minds if two or more people don't talk about everything and stay on the same page then with the silence comes two people who have no idea what's really going on because neither of you are thinking the same thing. U can't read minds! So it's all logical that talking about things can keep couples together.

[chris_987]

Same goes for women, most men will agree that women expect us to read mind and sense when she is upset instead of telling us. So your problem is not conclusive to men.

[hopelesslyhappy]

I totally agree! I don't mean to sound like I think men are the only problem we have. Oh no! Men & woman both do extremely & sometimes irreversibly destructive things during & after a bad breakup!

[chris_987]

But most women can relate to men because they’ve never been a man and had to deal with a women. Like the fear of a women divorce raping you and making you homeless is real for me because we see it happen to other men. But women can’t wait to get married. So it just goes to show why we have a hard time relating to each other experiencing

[IveGotNoName]

I don't feel like men are complicated... women on the other hand... wth

[topramen1565]

Big facts.

[weeee]

Humans are complicated. Hell, even babies are hard to understand sometimes

[topramen1565]

@weeee babies are very hard to understand

[weeee]

@topramen1565 actually yeah. Now that i think of it, babies are hard to understand all the time

[Coulis]

To be honest y'all are pretty predictable you're just very disappointing. Time and time again you show us why we shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt. But there isn't any confusion maybe I'm just cynical. I don't know.

[topramen1565]

You're being cynical. I don't how what guys you're hanging out with but that statement doesn't carry a lot of truth.

[OnTheLevel]

Ouch! Don't lump us all in that group.

[Coulis]

@topramen1565 I don't deny that but I have a lot of experience. Often did everythright taking my time, observing character being cautious and I still get burned.

[Coulis]

@OnTheLevel don't get it twisted. I like men. I have high standards in a relationship: these being openess, sincerity, reciprocity and self improvment. Most men like control. I'm really independent admittedly to a fault. I would love to submit to a man but they feel stamping me down is how to win but it isn't. Be vulnerable with me and I will hold you down and keep your secrets and vica versa. But a lot of people don't want to take that risk. I can't be in "safe" (in terms of no emotional risk) superficial relationship that justs coasts. I'll take someone I lkke warts and all but kindness and support is often taken for doormat. Then they get ahocked when I tell them it's time to go. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[Splatzonelover1]

What I am find confusing. that guys do not understand what NO mean or guys that do mixed singled. yet I find a lot crazy men that I am not attracted to and never will. even guys that just for ask for sex and will rejected them and then get pissed.

[bamesjond0069]

I have the answer for you. Many women play a game where they say no but if you keep at it a bit they later say yes. This is both for hookups and relationships. So after men realize that many many many women do this, they know your "no" might not really be a no but you playing a game in which you later say yes. One example was i literally hit on this girl every time i saw her for months. Then one day she said yes and we hooked up. So what does that teach me about when a girl says no?

[TheSpaceGnome]

What bamesjond said is correct (I personally refuse to play that stupid mind game though, so the ones who say no but mean yes get a pass from me).

Playing hard to get is a red flag that they enjoy being chased and aren't actually craving love, otherwise they would just say yes the first time.

[Splatzonelover1]

@TheSpaceGnome I always will say No if I do not see you as boyfriend mental and I mean no or you will get blocked. I do not play games part from my Nintendo switch. that men can't seem to understand No mean to and I will be rude. if you won stop trying to get me to say yes then I will go crazy on the guys that think no mean yes. it doesn't kept trying for me having a learning disability

[Azura_88]

They can have sex with multiple women, flirt with many, play with many but ALSO WANT a soulmate who stays with him forever.

[chris_987]

Having sex with a girls doesn’t mean you want to wake up to her then next day and have her babies or even die for her. Men can have sex with a girl and not even remember her name. As a women you need to feel a connection or something before you mess with a guy because you can get pregnant and your the one get something put inside of you. So men and women are not the same. That’s where you messed up.

[Azura_88]

@chris_987 nah not interested in the idea of pregnancy at all..

[chris_987]

You do realize that 50-100 years ago you couldn’t say that. If you decided to have sex back then, you where basically deciding to have a baby.

[rebeliouse]

@azura_88
is that just not nature same as any other male in nature whats to be alpha and have sex with all the women to produce strong offspring

[Yourfriend2021]

It's the same thing for women, they have sex with a bunch of men when they are younger and then want to settle down when they get older.

[weeee]

Haha all these guys trying to use evolutionary science to explain why they wanna cheat but will call out women for being sluts 💀

[Azura_88]

@weeee True double standards. It really depends on the nature. I've seen males with self control as well.