I can I make a grown 30 year old guy to attend church and not act rude? Last time I took my date to chruch he was yawning and making faces. I told him it was rude how he needs to stop that habit yet he says it was my fault because I choose chruch that Sunday morning and he find chruch boring.
You can't and if you really loved him you wouldn't want him to change. This why I never date women that want me to place a priority on church or Jesus in my life. Seriously I do a lot of online dating, and the second Jesus, faith or religion is mentioned in a profile I pass with no questioned ask.
Its not that I am an atheist or anything, but the social constructs assigned to religion and being a person of faith are ridiculous to me. I tried dating religious people and honestly they are the biggest hypocrites I ever have known. Super judgy and ungrateful people honestly because you don't conform to their beliefs8n what is proper or right. Like here for example... isn't it enough that he went or goes to church with you? Its obvious he's doing it just for you, he doesn't want to be there. But he is there with you and just for you... you can't be happy about that or satisfied that he's doing that? You got to find fault in it, and expect more? Its crazy and some what unappreciated, lacking in gratitude and rude to him.
Oh so you would rather date a slut that sleeping around bouncing around with different men? Is that the woman of your dreams? The other day I saw a disgraceful woman wearing a crop top and extremely short showing way to much skin and yet a guy still wants that thrash seriously later don't be complaining why you get salty whores as wife.
Honestly it is very uncomfortable woman to be dressing up like sluts exposing their body to everyone I mean people go out to have fun as a family with kids and these whores think it's a strip club disgusting!
Some one has issues, I never say any of those things, again you're making my piont for me. This was about you're man yawning in church and you go off on me about women dressing like whores.
You're saying that not me. No I don't like women that dress like whores. I am a man of strong ethical and moral values... and I can be those things without going to church. But like I said in my post church women are to judgiee, unappreiating, ungrateful and lacking in respect for things they can't understand or agree with.
So let me put it in context for you... this man you're with I will assume he is a good man, proper man who goes to church with you because he cares for you and wants you to be happy. Just say thank you to him and appreciate what he does for you and be happy with yourself and your man. Happinessis something you gotta find in yourself. Don't nag on your manabout yawning like some ungrateful uppity unpleasant person lacking in appreciation and gratitude. You're not his mother and if yawning is a sin, the leave the judging to Christ because its not you're place to judge him or me. Or leave you're man at home.
The fact that you responded to me with your accusations and unfounded and warranted assumptions tell me that you're an unstable person... so go back church and pray for forgiveness. You have sinned here.
Okay look I'm sorry I shouldn't have gone off on you. Yes you are right I am not one to judge. I apologise for going off on you like that. We broken off for the best we were only dating we weren't married or anything. Yes you are right it's my fault I should look have look inside the church no wonder why my pastor says don't date outside of the church. Sorry I went off on you it's not your fault. It's been a rough year long story. Okay I apologise.
Yes maybe you are right I have issues with men that live their wife for a much younger woman. That's my whole problem you are right I have been very hateful and resent younger woman. Sorry again not your fault.
It is okay @alwayreckles93 , I accept your apologies and I am appreciative your humble nature to even offer one. Most people would not, and therefore I say thank you. I apologies to you for being to rough with you.
Be careful not to push people away, when you could of embraced them. With men, if you're too harsh, with them it build barriers that serve to push them away as much as protect yourself. Men want to feel appreciated and respected, yes to a certain degree they need the positive reinforcement and ego stroking from their women. Kindliness shown is kindness given.
I do not know what happen as far as all the cheating or what not, but I am just talking about the yawning in church. If you got this upset about yawning in church, then I am sure there were probably other things. Don't project your feelings upon him, just let him know in a kind and generous way what you like and dislike. If he cares he will change. If not, then you have to make your own choice.
A yawn in church in the grand scheme can't be the most important thing. You should never seek to change a man, unless he wants to change himself first. To love is to appreciate the goodness more than the lesser, and to feel gratitude for the more over the lesser, is how you will find happiness.
I am not a religious person, but do you think Jesus never saw the evils, faults or flaws in men/women? Yes he did, but he always saw the kindliness, giving and humble nature of men/women as well. At times the bad seems to be all around us, but that does not mean the goodness is not there, you have to look for it before you can find it, feed and nature it. Jesus appealed to the goodness of man, and taught us to embrace it in ourselves first, fellow man and then in the lord. When all hope is lost to you, put your faith in the lord, to love one, is to love them all.
It's okay I accepted your apology. It wasn't your fault. I was in horrible bad mood and bored when I long on here and I took my frustrations and anger out on you it's not fair for you it's not your fault. Thank you for the advice I do appreciate your advice you tough me something new and I did learn something new. Don't feel bad in regards about you hurting my feelings you were only defending yourself something any normal human would have done. I guess we were upset at some point and I shouldn't have spoken to you like that. Thanks.
I grew up in a house where my father was anti church, anti Christian. My mother tried ot to get everyone to go to church but my father was hostile toward it and stopped it. I dated two different catholic women in college long term. one for one year; the other for two years. Both asked me to go to Mass. I did. I was bored. I got nothing from it. When I was thirty, I went to church on my own because I was interested. I loved it. I enjoyed the preaching. I enjoyed the fellowship. I enjoyed studying the bible. So, my conclusion is that you cannot "force" your boyfriend or spouse to get something from church if they are not open.
Yes I made a mistake I now realize it. Did your grandparents forced religion to your dad? I have hear when parents force the child to religion they it is more likely they will rebelle. My ex he is Mormon and I converted for him. Yeah you are absolutely right.
I am now a reborn saved Christian.
You CAN'T force him. If you try you will only make him resent church and the religion altogether, maybe even you. A relationship with God or any god has to be formed as a result of the yearning within not from outside factors.
It's completely out of your control. The only way that he'll go to church and be mentally and spiritually present is if he made the conscious decision to go to church with an open heart.
Take it from someone who was born and grew up in a Christian family with a Christian lifestyle.
I believe in God, but only suckers believe in religion. Dump him so he can find someone better.
I remember last Christmas...
A black preacher was on TV.
"I know times are hard, but if you can at least send me $100.00, then God will appreciate it."
News flash.. God doesn't want or need your money.
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You can´t force him sorry to say. The thing is that he won´t be as motivated as you to go to church before he isn´t a Christian. Yes you can go to church with a date but you can´t force him to become a Christian because that´s not evangelising and discipleship from a Christian perspective work.
Being a disciple is a choice you make and it´s nothing you can force him to.
Show him instead how your faith changed you in a better way, get him contacted with other guys in your church that would be ways to get him consider be a Christian but it´s nothing you can enforce.
Show them all the good things the church has done for your community. As long as he is emotionally mature he may identify the benefits of having an organizing entity to help people cooperate even when they disagree. But keep in mind if the list of what your church has done for its surrounding community is not long, then you may end up asking yourself why you go.
Yes that would be a great idea. I go every Friday to help out packing food. The chruch I attend the Pastor organize a food bank for people and we help out the people with cleaning bringing the medicine to their house for people with disabilities.
@NotGoingAnywhere Okay I see you have multiple accounts. Your a troll !
Huh?
In any case, those are good examples so long as the church isn't setting itself up as the gatekeepers of fundamental services like those. I. e. if they actively protest state or municipal initiatives to do those things just so if someone wants them done they must come to the church. People are wary of the countless ways religions have grabbed for power over the last several thousand years. I can say right now that unless your church has made some effort to avoid being that they probably are that at least a little bit and this 30 year old guy will almost certianly notice.
Thanks to preachers like the good Reverend, church is boring.
When I was dating a black woman and she invited me to her church, and it was actually (close to) fun. Singing, clapping and the choir was amazing. The black preacher had the lord by his side and as the sermon progressed it brought shouts of "Amen" from the congregation.
Of course, the best part was Sunday dinner.
Can I get an Amen for the sweet potato pie?
"Amen... and I'll have another helping."
This isn't no joke Sir.
You shouldn't, and it's disrespectful to him as well. I wouldn't like a trait like that in a possible partner. I doubt you'd like the idea of him forcing you into some other activity you dislike, just for the sake of a date or relationship.
Besides, IIRC, it's a sin to marry outside your religion, as stated in Paul's letters to the churches, I think Ephesians. Back when I attended church when younger, the youth pastors would frequently remind the people there of that, because they'd try to have relationships as leverage to bring outsiders to God.
When it comes to being forced no one should have to be forced to do anything they don’t want to do. As for church some people like church but then again some people don’t. Some people find church uplifting & so much more & some people find it boring.
Simple answer...you can't!
You can't force people to do things or be someone they're not anymore than you'd want someone doing that to you...
It was rude and disrespectful. He should learn that whether it is religious or political beliefs others opinions should be respected.
I don't see how you have a future of any sort with him given the differences in views. He'll start disrespecting you.
Yes you are right.
I think he was only rude because you dragged him there in the first place. How about compromise. On alternative Sundays, you can go to church and have other dates that he picks, like Knicks game which frankly I think might bore a woman so that makes you guys even.
We broken up already. Next time I will try looking for a dude inside the church.
All right
You don't want to force anybody into doing anything it's just like trying to force somebody to love you why would you want to do that if he can't do it on his own then he can't do it at all and that just shows who he really is it's a learning experience you need to understand in so many different ways men do so many different things and people say why it's because they're trying to show you who they really are they just don't understand that's what they're doing
You can't force anyone to do something they don't want to! It comes across as controlling, and you may as well kiss your relationship, or any relationship, goodbye if you do that. Ask yourself how you would feel if someone tried to force you to do something you didn't want to do. I bet you wouldn't like it. So why try and force someone to do something they don't want to do?
You ultimately can’t force someone to believe or not believe in your religion, so I would do some serious soul-searching regarding whether you want to be in a lifelong relationship with a person with whom you disagree on just about everything at such a fundamental level. The sex isn’t worth it, and neither is the money.
honestly it shouldn't matter where you go to worship a higher power. only that you honor them by showing respect for them in some way or form.
Good answer.
Well 2 things, he's rude in general (or childish/immature) if he's doing that (even if he's not into it, he can still be respectful to those that are), but I also wouldn't "force" someone to go in the first place. Especially church. If they wouldn't go themselves on their own, don't "force" them. They aren't going to all of the sudden like or want to go or be there.
Yes Sir you do have good points. At the same time it was my fault I forced him thinking he would covert.
To be quite frank, he just sounds childish and immature. Even if church isn’t his thing, you can still at the very minimum, be respectful about it
Yes I agree
um…….. why the heck would you want to? Plus, he’s 30. He’s a grown-ass man. You can’t “force” him to do anything. If your faith is important to you and a dude isn’t interested then you should look elsewhere.
Oh we broken up already I found out he is dating a stupid 22 year old trashy woman dresses immodest.
As a non-believer if anyone at this moment tried forcing me to attend church, I'm dumping them.
You can't force anyone to do what they don't want to. If a religious man is important to you then find one that's like-minded.
If hypothetically I couldn't do anything and had to be stuck for even couple minutes at church, I would be yawning and making faces too.
Expect more of the same if you 'force' any guy who doesn't want to go to church to go. Why would you want to take a guy somewhere he didn't want to go? Would you be okay with him doing the same to you?
What kind of stupid am I reading if u force someone to do somthing they don't want why would u expect them to be happy about it
Grow up!
If I was a young 20 year old woman I bet you wouldn't be judgmental but since I am at the edge of hitting 30 your went off calling me stupid and such. You men are ageist!
You black people seriously crap me up 😆
Well if you broke it off this question is kind of irrelevant then. Next time choose a guy that might actually be a decent human being and not just the guy that sets your loins on fire (you know basically go against your natural inclination), or don't and just make the same mistake again. It's no skin off my nose.
"How can I forced a 30 year old guy to go to chruch?"... Simply answer You Can't.
Sometimes it's just not meant to be for some people. You can't exactly force him, that's disrespectful to him and inconsiderate of his feelings. If he wants to go, he'll go.
Time to let this one go dear. I think you two are spiritually incompatible.
You cannot force someone to do that bollox.
I would be throwing them from a moving train if someone tried that on me.
Stop doing this. You can't impose religion on people when they aren't interested. It makes you seem bat shit crazy.
I am glad to hear you broke it off.
Dating to convert never works out even with the most respectable of individuals.
I am not a Christian but it is more important to first read about the religion, read your holy book, understand it and make sense out of it. Just going to church without having any connection with the creator or with his rules.. How does that help?
You've no right to force anything upon anyone. If they don't want to go, and you want them to go, then they're not for you.
Why wpuld you force anyone to do anything. Find a religious dude.
Yes you are right. We broken up already.
Never, ever force someone to go to church when they clearly dont want to. You are only going to generate resentment.
You don't make anybody attend church, they are not your child. Stop trying to control people. If the guy doesn't want to go to church and listen to that rubbish then don't ask him to go.
No you cannot, It is his choice to attend church or not regardless of your feelings.
Do not be surprised if he tells you 'We're done'.
Oh he already did for a stupid young 22 year old. Well I guess he will be going to hell. This younger generation is possessed by evil. Younger woman dress like hookers showing skin wearing spaghetti straps they cover nothing younger woman are useless.
Nope you do not need to go to church to avoid hell. Sounds like you need some serious work. And any good Christian would not judge people so harshly and be more forgiving and accepting of a man who opened his heart to christ even if it was just to make you happy. I think you need to pray on that yourself. 😇🙏
With due respect, you sound like someone who goes to church but has no idea what the Bible actually says. Some of the things you are saying are straight up not biblical. I won’t be responding or commenting on your thread anymore because based on what you’ve written you are very immature.
You can't force someone to go it must be there will to go go the lord and the will of the lord in them to go to church encourage but never force.
Maybe not force someone to where they don’t wanna go…
I'd instantly break it off if I was forced to go to church
You can't force people to go to church.. that's fucked up
You can’t make another person do anything they don’t want to do without creating resentment.
You can’t force someone to go to church if their heart isn’t into it
you can't force anyone to go to Church, they have to want to, and need to believe in God. above all else.
You can't force religion on someone. If he doesn't like church, then go by yourself.
It’s not just religion, if you don’t like him the way he is, do him and yourself a favor and turn him down.
Why would you bring him if he clearly didn’t want to go?
He needs to get closer to God. He is having some struggles and I told him life gets better when you get closer to God it's called blessings.
That’s one opinion
I would be yawning too. Thats not a date location tbh
You don't force him to go. You getting two choices. First choice is dating me and go to church. If you don't want to go to church we're not dating. You must hold your ground. He has two choices.
You can't force people to church.
Especially if they're not christian/catholic etc..
I'm jewish
How about bring Church to him and read the Bible at home
You can't force people to do anything against their will.
What kind of Christian forces anybody to attend church? The kosher way is to persuade.
I recommend a bit of chloroform, a couple pairs of handcuffs and a fairly sturdy sack.
It IS your fault. You brought him even though he's unwilling.
You're going to need chloroform and some cable ties.
Why force your dates? Do you get extra credit from the holy ghost?
First off you don't force anyone to do anything that is controlling red flags I see waving
Don't waste you're time.
Find a guy at you're same Church!
R U SUFFERING DEMENTIA?
STUPID WHITE GIRL!!!
You can't and you don't.
Yeah you are right.
Thank you for your advice. I do realize I made a mistake. I shouldn't have been to pushy with him. We just ment at near be Starbucks after work we just broke it off.
It's for the best. I blame myself.
Don't date a heathen then.
you can't force anyone to go to church
You can't and you shouldn't.
Find someone that doesn't hate church.
It sounds like you already did.
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