Does being a "masculine" man mean being a douchebag to any other men they deem as "nerds" or "beta males"?

Question

Now, I'm not one of those people who cry "toxic masculinity!" but there are some men out there that for some reason love to reinforce the jock douchebag anti-nerd stereotypes of masculine men.

inhua · Accepted Answer

what is considered a douchebag today is just a matter of perspective. a father who stops his daughter from going to a party full of drunk guys may seem like a douchebag but he does care her wellbeing. a military drill sergeant may be a douchebag but he is trying to prepare his soldiers for war and doesn't actually hold any grudges. a friend who tells you to lose weight is worrying about your health, not trying to put you down.

in the war between brains and brawn, brains can win all the battles but they can never win the war. women will always favor the physical first before the intellectual because the physical can be past down to the next generation whereas the intellectual can not.

yes it sucks when the dumb jock reaps all the benefits at the expense of the smart nerd but if a dude was truly smart, he wouldn't try to outsmart the dumb jock but rather he would try to negate any physical disadvantages by becoming just as strong as the dumb jock. the dumb jock lacking the brain power wouldn't know how to one-up the newly upgraded nerd therefore the nerd now has the advantage.

sounds like a funny story but in all honesty, there is something that beta nerds can learn from the dumb jock and this is absolutely necessary if they want to become successful with women. yes you may need to stop being that doormat (where you are one on the inside or you look like a doormat on the outside) and become that "douche"

Man-O-Metal · Accepted Answer

No no no no no. Masculinity is the opposite of being a douche. To be masculine is to be an amalgam of brave, level headed, independent, courteous, unselfish, and being seen as a role model for others. When women shout out "toxic masculinity!", it's kind of stupid because those two words refer to opposite things. A masculine man is someone that is honorable. A "toxic" man, or douche, is a man that doesn't even respect himself, let alone others.

fembotnpc777 · Accepted Answer

What about men who talk shit about other men for being too Chad-like or not enough of a feminist or a "real man"? Because I noticed that too, and it looks really petty and jealous to me. It's like the guy's aware he's unattractive, so he takes a fake moral high-ground with more attractive men. Women do this too, by calling prettier women "shallow" or "picky" or acting like men hookup with pretty girls and marry the jealous ones.

annabananna · Accepted Answer

Absolutely not! When I think of masculine I think of courage to stick up for others or at the very least not pick on someone they think is an easy target. What you describes sounds like weak masculinity to me.

MisterWack · Answer

“Does being a "masculine" man mean being a douchebag to any other men they deem as "nerds" or "beta males"?”

No. A lot of people believe masculinity means over-exaggeration of traditional masculine traits and pushing them onto society, they are in the minority of folks who take it to the extreme like “never take no for an answer”, “boys don’t cry”, “if you have a small wiener you are less of a man”.

Masculine means to be open minded, being true to oneself, speaking up for the little guy, and takes a bigger man to admit he fucked up also sometimes a woman is better than you and it is best to act poise and shake her hand with dignity & respect than being a sore loser. That is what I always associated with it.
Doesn’t mean to be a Dumb Jock, a Geeky Little Nerd, it means to be yourself and rise up to the challenge by giving it all you got. When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Show some balls and make yourself stand tall also it is okay to be vulnerable, intimate, in sync, and have a warm inviting presence with good company like your girlfriend, spouse, family, and close friends.

‘Toxic Masculinity’ is a thing, though it doesn’t have to be if we raise our boys to be strong men with a heart.

lightbulb27 · Answer

not necessarily. I've seen very masculine men respect other men.

I think that's a personality and confidence thing for that man to pick on others. in essence, to feel good about themselves, they put others down. so that's about their self esteem...

c0mlink · Answer

Masculinity is strength of will, character, and action. Harming those weaker than you, even just mentally is being a coward, if you want to pick a fight do it with someone who might be able to beat you. That being said if you are weak then you need to get strong, not physically but mentally and in your character. You can be the weakest scrawniest little dude but if you act with boldness and decisiveness then you are acting masculine. This has to be balanced with good decision making and a good set of morals though otherwise you are just being an ass.

HighValue · Answer

No. It means being strong and standing up for what you believe in. Often the people that are jerks to others are weak cowards, but they pick on the guys that happen to be a little weaker than them. It also means working and earning what you have, not relying on pity and government handouts your whole life.

MCheetah · Answer

No. But it does mean having some self-respect and not simping to all women, which is why those men mean when they call other men "beta males." Those men they're referring to, don't respect themselves, yet expect other people to respect them for no reason, and that's not how it works.

As long as you have self-respect and aren't intentionally hurting or bullying others, you should be fine.

Summeroflove · Answer

It’s all just stupid. Be who God made you. No matter what you do…. Someone will always judge you. So just be you dude.

domenico07 · Answer

I was bullied for those reasons, and then after high school that was no longer a thing. I’ve held the same job for two years and have gotten raises, and have also had the same partner for two years. If part of masculinity is taking care of priorities, then I am doing just that.

bamesjond0069 · Answer

Yes and no. It's not my job to run around and shout in men's faces they are simp losers. That being said if you're up in my face I'm an honest man and I don't respect simps, cucks, gays, betas... I think they are bad people with no morals and don't want anything to do with them. And yeah if your my friend ill call it out if you act like that stuff. But do I seek out these men and give them shit? No.

Anonymous · Answer

Depends what your definition of "masculine" is. I'm never going to put another man down unless he puts me down first. To me, if you have to beat your chest and tell everyone you're a man that's kind of the opposite of being a true man. But that's my take.

Anonymous · Answer

No, it means helping and guiding others so they can become better. What you said made me think of this scene...

aaron210419 · Answer

That is not masculine, that is the definition of a coward. Being masculine has nothing to do with being beta, and anyone who says they're an alpha male is a true beta and is the real definition of toxic masculinity.

Sixgunsound · Answer

Arguably no it does not. Masculinity is what you do not what you do to others. It sounds like a weak scared hurt boy who needs to bring others down to raise themselves up.

SlothySlob · Answer

Those guys who bully the weak are weak themselves. It's just a facade to hide their pain.

genericname85 · Answer

whatever is a douchebag or masculine, "beta" or toxic are all subjective opinions. why care for subjective opinions? just do what you think is right.

Anonymous · Answer

Well... "masculine" is a descriptor, it doesn't describe the person in full. There can be masculine morons, for example. Or masculine, deeply insecure, people, for another.

DeeDeeDeVour · Answer

Unfortunately, such "douchebags" exist.

coachTanthony · Answer

it's called tough love

Dinosaursandanime65 · Answer

No, THIS is a good example for masculine

TroyDT2 · Answer

Does masculinity include bullying? To me, no.

Babygirl_S · Answer

I consider Henry Cavill to be a very masculine man and he never does that. He even told Armie Hammer that he had beautiful eyes.

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

No. But instead they encourage them. And being a douchebag is something a toxic masculine guy would do not a guy who is just masculine.

Kingofkings1992 · Answer

No. There’s no such thing as as “alpha”and “beta”. Stop trying to put people in boxes. A masculine man has respect for others, regardless of what they look like.

Anonymous · Answer

Isn't it amazing how many self-labelled masculine men end up in prison

msc545 · Answer

No. It's important to treat other men with respect and kindness.

ZenJen444 · Answer

This cannot be a serious question coming from a guy 25 years old.

Anonymous · Answer

This is why i ditch this word and "feminine" from my vocabulary and lexicon.

more_than_a_guy · Answer

No, like being feminine doesn't correlate to being a bitch.

Ms_Facesitter · Answer

No those are the stupid and weak men.

grega239 · Answer

Being an ass is not part of being masculine

Fuentes · Answer

You're either lion or the prey.

AngryCarl · Answer

No, that's being a bitch.

melanieeeB · Answer

Of course not!

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