i tend to open the door for everyone, but it’s like whenever i do it for guys, they seemed shocked. and anytime i tell a friend that i open the door guys too, they instantly tell me not to? i don’t really see anything wrong with it though? boys, do you like it when a girl opens the door for you? do you think less of her if she does?
I'd let her, but in general I hold the door open, walk on the outside on the street and expect to pay for the meal.
I believe in chivalry as a code for life and I've generally found women actually prefer that to overly macho or simps.
So a first date would involve picking her up at the origin of her choice, open the car door for her to get in and out, hold the door for her, avoid having a seizure if she orders the lobster thermidor - just smile and pay for it. If I've invited her to dinner I'd be wearing a suit with a waistcoat but no tie (hypersensitive neckline so it feels like I'm being choked). If it's more casual then jeans with a lounge jacket.
If she invited me out the dress code is the same but I wouldn't be offended if she opens the door, drives, etc.
Ugh I wish guys my age thought like that
That's my point. Younger guys didn't get the foundation GenX got. A lot of my generation had no male role models though so our sons are pretty fucked up (although mine's only 4 so I've got time to not screw him up)
My hope is enough guys your age wake up from the woke coma they wander aimlessly around
@desperatelyhungry LOL. Gen Z is pure AIDS. They still want everything handed to them. Still they are Bernie fans. Still, they hope Biden will give them tens of thousands of dollars in College forgiveness. It ain't happening. They want to get their degrees, many times useless degrees none the less, and they expect a job like right "meow" once they Graduate. There are plenty of jobs out there if they want to actually work. They don't want to work though. It's below them to work. Isn't that insane? What do Democrats do? They make it so it's better if the younger folk simply say "SCREW THIS", I get more money living off the Government teat as opposed to working.
@bayoubon I’m gen z, born in 2000. I’m not disagreeing a lot of my generation sucks, but stop stereotyping all of us. I don’t support Bernie, as I don’t support socialism. I don’t support MOST of what Biden does. I don’t think you should get your debt relieved, at the same time there’s no reason college should be as expensive as it is. You shouldn’t have to work till 68 paying off a loan for a job that (unless you get a 100k+ job) pays like $50,000 which isn’t shit in this economy. I used to be a trumpster, now I’m not. I think most politicians are trash and aren’t looking out for us. I feel disconnected from this country and the politics. None of them represent me and I don’t want any of them to. They’re rich and powerful, we’ll never be in the same boat. I did do two years of community college and then after COVID never went back. I don’t want to go to school, I don’t want to get a degree in something I don’t give af about just for Money. I work at a phone place making $17 an hour, not amazing but great for my 401k, it’s going up pretty well, even with the stock market in the trash, and one day, within the next two years, I’ll be in a position to take out half and put a down payment on a cabin that i will rent out. I hope to have 2 or 3 one day and make my living solely solely that. Life is too short to be broke and not get to travel and it’s too short to work your life away for someone else. There are a lot of people my age, but also older, that will not work and it makes me angry, but again, that’s not all of us. I don’t know why you have to talk about democrats. Who cares. Both sides suck and both sides can be slimy. If we would grow tf up in this country and not just talk shit about who believes in which party and let it divide us, we’d be a lot better off. Thanks for all your opinions and stereotypes, however, no one asked.
@desperatelyhungry It's called Capitalism. There's no such thing as White Privilege. There's no such thing as Systemic Racism. There's no such thing as MALE privilege. There is such a thing as the United States is the best Country ever in existence. You don't act like it. You have every equal right. You can DO IT! We all do it. Europe thinks we are sad. Because, they can affordably cross the pond? They have their sick days, they have their vacation days that are what? 30 days or more? What happens if us in the US were as fucking lazy as them? They bitch about us being fat and lazy. They should look themselves up in their own mirror. We make it so the free world goes round. I would love to have their benefits. But, we don't. Those are facts.
They are butt hurts. They complain about the same things. They bitch about how they can bitch freely. Get a fucking pair. The US will not kowtow. NO ONE, I MEAN NO ONE in the World NEEDS the US in your MINDS. "WE the US of A should act like it.!!" FUCK YOU ALL. We should indeed care about America first. But, that's not how it works. Printing money like it's paper. Yet, if people here spend $600 or more, the IRA is on our ass! Well, what about the first world government? Butt hurts say it isn't a thing, I guess our homeless are just enthusiastic campers. They get their needles, they get their drugs. They get to filch off sanctuary cities, they live off the teat. And for what?
Europe must be like EX Twitter Employees? Wake up and then show up for Wine and Mimosas at 7 AM, whilst they don't even show up in office? No work. Once lunch comes around they play Billiards, and outdoor basketball? Foosball calls their names. Then they bitch because they don't have their SHRIMP at lunch or Sushi? Let's GET REAL!!!
Bob I didn’t say shit about capitalism or any kinda privilege. You have points I agree with and points I don’t, but it seems you’re debating with yourself and not me, so I’ll let you get back to it
Is that really considered abnormal for a woman to open doors for men? Where are you people from?
I'm from the South and it's very common for women to open doors for men, and vice versa- it's called "common courtesy" or being polite. It's also common for anyone, male or female, to open doors for the elderly, injured, or someone with a physical disability. That's how we're raised, at least those of us with good manners.
... and no, we don't expect anything for doing so. No date, praise, money, etc. I open the door for anyone I see approaching the door or going my direction, and hold it until they reach it. And I move on with my life.
I'm genuinely surprised and tickled that people find a woman opening a door for the opposite gender such a shocker, wow. Kind of sad really. I feel bad for you people; I really do.
I love being able to do this, like a full on open and hold the door and stand out of the way. It usually makes the guy's day. If they say thank you, I'm just like "not a problem".
I don't mind if a girl does. But I also race to the door and try to be the one to open it for them. Not so they think they owe me one, or because I wanted to be the man to do it. Just because I like being kind to others. It's kind of funny because my guy friends and I are pushing and shoving each other so that we can be the one to politely open the door for the other. I always check to see how many doors there are with guy friends so I can be the one to open the last door. So for girls, I do it to be nice. For my pals, I do it to out of spite. 🤣🤣🤣
That’s so sweet
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Sure… it’s an unexpected thing though. I would probably be surprised
A fellow human being offering to make a moment in my life a bit easier for me?
I'd be a fool to interpret such an action other than at its face value.
I'd certainly appreciate any act of good will, with myself initiating good will and reciprocating in kind as opportunities are presented.
I see nothing to lose in such an interaction, and everything to gain.
Any small gesture of good will is worthwhile.
Ultimately, good will is what will hold this world together.
If a stranger got to a door before me and held it open for me to pass, I'd think it was courteous and thank them. I've had women do that before, although not often.
If I was with a girl and she opened the door, I'd probably hold it open and let her enter first. I like the lady-gentleman thing. At the same time, I wouldn't be offended if she held the door for me sometimes. It's sweet.
I usually try to get to the door for my wife and open it for her because, again, it's the gentlemanly thing to do and women like being treated like ladies. But our relationship has become relaxed over the years and who opens the door really makes no difference.
Of course. It just happened to me last night. How might i prevent it, short of violence? Ell oh ell!
Few events make my heart swell like simple courtesies that are too few and far between these days. Anyone holding the door for someone else is good. But when women do so for men, it’s great! And when kids hurry to a door in order to hold it for someone, it’s frigging beautiful! I always acknowledge these courtesies, and say my “thank yous”. But i fully praise the young’ns. I’ve had several young men hold the door for me in my time, and one young lady. I think i’m fortunate in that regard.
It us nit that we guys don't like it. Traditionally, guys are brought up with the etiquette to open the door for ladies. It is almost ingrained in us. So when a lady opens the door, it is not only surprising, but it feels very weird because it is supposed to be the other way round.
There is of course nothing wrong with opening the door for guys. But if you are truly a lady and a traditional one at that, allow men to open the door for you instead. Of course not every woman is a lady nowadays and even the traditional type that deserve it, are hard to come by. So men really don't give a shit now days because some women have a very stinky attitude. Some make you feel like letting the door swing and hit them in the face.
But yes, it is really nice of you to have such a personality. If you are a lady, and traditional, trust me. You will definitely be treated with at most respect that you deserve. Your personality will command it of men. Not your mouth.
People still don't see the difference between "holding the door" as courtesy, and "holding the door" as chivalry.
Holding the door is courtesy, everyone does it, to anyone. There's no problem in it.
Chivalry is something else. When coming from the outside, the man hold the door and let the woman goes in first while waiting outside, then enter. When coming from the inside, the man goes out first then hold the door to the woman. The idea behind it is basically to put the lady away from any inconvenience first when going in, and checking if there's no inconvenience outside when going out, before letting the woman pass the door. You do that only for a woman you care about, your girlfriend/wife, mother, or anyone with an important status, like your boss or someone you respect more than the common women.
Tbf not really a problem. We might mention it, but we don't really make a big deal of it. If you are doing so for manners, that good on you. I also tend to leave the door open whenever I enter/exist for the next person behind me no matter the gender, and I just think it's common sense and basic manners.
Irs a nice gesture. Many times if you try to fight with someone not to hold the door. Then it becomes a battle of whose going to hold the door….. So it’s much easier just to say thank you.
I say thank you. I also try to hold the door. You’re just a nice person. I both try to as well as say thanks when someone does it.
I don’t want to let the door slam in someone’s face. So at the very least I push it open if there’s just tons of people
I am flattered when a woman opens a door for me. It really is not a big deal and in most cases a way to look and say “hello” either verbally or through head nod. It’s the first pleasantry of the relationship and if she gets the door then I’ll buy or pour her coffee before we hit high-rise elevator.
It is is not a responsibility, right, or protocol etc. She’s setting you up for an invite or return favor opportunity if one will man-up and recognize the Opportunity.
That doesn´t sound like a problem to me. It could only become a problem in a scenario of dating and the woman doesn´t allow me a way of doing it or something similar for her. But all the rest of the time it happens regularly that women open a door before me and hold them open for me. I sometimes feel bad to be honest especially if she seems weaker than me but it´s not a big deal to me and it doesn´t make me think less of her.
Gladly. Sometimes it's better for the flow of foot traffic through that door. Or she's trying to be nice. I do like holding doors for people, though. My mom would always get mad at me if I didn't in general, and she'd give my dad a really hard time if he didn't for her. Unlike Marissa who, in high school, read me the riot act for holding the door open for her.
Depends. Are you just simply opening a door for random strangers getting into a store? Or are you actually picking up a date and getting out of your vehicle, knock on their door, then proceed to open up the passenger side door for a Dude? Then briskly walking around the vehicle to hop in and proceed? Where's the details?
I hold the door open for everyone. It's just a polite thing to do. People need to pull the immaturity highschool mentality bullshite stick out of their asses and start treating people as people and not some underlying reason for every polite thing done
No because when females do things for guys it means they are expecting something in return, plus it'd be pretty weird if a female decided to hold a sorry for me when they normally let go fast so it closes behind them even if I'm close to the door, or when I lived in an apartment and was holding grocery bags.
Bunny - don't change that or anything else that makes you who you are. I'm always quick to do something chivalrous (open doors, wait for her before entering store or house, offer her a drink while getting myself one etc.). Those a rare traits these days and the right person will very much appreciate them. Also, if the guy in your life doesn't do anything like that stuff - drop the dick. It's only a sign of things to come.
It's just a door lol be my guest open the door , cook a meal pull the chair make me eat from your own hands , make me sit on your lap 🤣
Hmm what else?
Ah cut my sandwich in sone shapes lol
Go crazy i dobt mind at all 🙃😹.
Teach me writing English skills 🤣
I appreciate all forms of common decency and aim to put that kind of energy out there too, regardless if you’re a man or woman, young or old…
In short, be a good person… the world needs more of them.
Let her?
lol it’s not like they can do anything about it once it’s done it’s done and I mean it would be silly to refuse to go in when someone is being courteous.
I appreciate a woman opening a door for me if she gets there first, or holding it open as I'm approaching from 5 - 10 seconds away, but it doesn't happen very often. Most women kinda just pretend they don't realize you're coming and just walk through and let the door close.
Why would I be offended at someone showing me basic courtesy?
It's common courtesy. I always hold doors for people, whether it's women or men. I've done it dozens of times and guys never had a problem with it. They would always smile and say thanks.
Yeah they do it for me sometimes lol i don't know why to this day, but at first i was shocked a little bit but then it started happening more and i was like thank you each time they do it
I would consider it a girl who doesn't expect to be treated constantly like a princess. It's less stressful.
But a girl like that, might tend to also be more dominant... is my own feeling.
Being courteous always looks good. Actions speak a lot louder than words. So doing little things like that speak a lot about your character. It’s a good thing.
Kindness and courtesy should be gender neutral things. That being said I know a lot of men who enjoy being helpful to women not because they have to but because they want to.
This has never been a thing in my area. At the holidays when people come to town to visit family is when you see the shocked reactions. Then you get the “people aren’t like this where I live”.
m they have done it before... and my ego didn't crumble nor shattered down to pieces lol, it is just a very common courtesy down here, and a situational as well
Sure, if she gets there before me. If I get there first, I open the door for her... and for anyone else nearby. I know that's not chivalry, but...
No, that would violate the Prime Directive. I can't allow a woman to influence my natural path in life.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/4NKU0NgLL5EI'd be grateful. It's a nice gesture and this world is in dire need of people just being kind of the sake of being kind.
I'd thank her and be on my way. I do the same thing for others too, if someone's close behind me, I hold the door for them.
To me, its common courtesy.. Full stop..
I get the chivalry part, coming from men.. And I love that.. but as long as you're polite to whoever, isn't that all that matters? 🤔😊❤️
Why would anyone be shocked by that? That always happens even old people hold doors open for other people.
yes it's fine, no problem. Have to be careful with some guys, if they start putting you down... run.
sure, if they are there before I am you bet, and I will always say thank you, and generally I would be at the 2nd door before them so I would hold that one open.
If you held the door open for me as we are both going in our out I would say thank you, hold the door and let you go first. I have had women do that for me a few times. I'm very impressed when a woman does that
I accept it in stride and just happily walk through. I open doors for everyone, so its natural for people to reciprocate.
If a girl opened a door for me I would appreciate the courtesy very much. I would think she has very good manners.
I get the same reaction. Sometimes even a dirty look as if robbed them of their manhood. I stopped.
To "let" would be to "allow". I dont control anyone. She does what she wants.
So few women give what's termed common courtesy to men, that it is a shock to see. Thank you for being a good person.
well if a girl open the for me then i will marry her first don't her let her go
We're shocked cause we are not get used to girls been nice to us. Yes, keep doing it. Everyone should be kind to anyone regardless of sex.
i don't give a fuck. it's a door. anyone can open them for another person. just common courtesy in my opinion. nothing about gender bullshit at all.
It’s a door, anyone who holds it open for me I say thank you. Didn’t know this was a big deal? Usually I’ll open for others
I don't mind, besides doors are sliding doors or power doors nowadays anyway 😁👀
I see nothing wrong with it and guys telling you not to, must be insecure as fuck.
It's already happened to me. More than once. It's a non-issue.
It's fine. I'm a little wary of people who try to walk behind me, though.
The men may fear the woman to be sending a message such as "You are a sissy not a real man" when she opens the door for them.
I think that fear is the basis for their reaction.
It's unusual. So a man encountering that might just not know how to react because its rare.
You feminist? and it's odd, it's better for the guy to do it, guys are stronger than girls.
u There's nothing wrong with doing that, but I NEVER expect it!
I think I would like it and get the wrong idea. I will feel she is inviting me for a relationship 😅. Don't be too friendly or you will be a wanted person 😉
Absolutely I would and I am definitely going to take it as flirting and I will tell everyone for the next few days that I got hit on by a girl that opened the door for me.
I normally try to let them go first but if they insist I'm walking through
Yes, I would let a girl open a door for me.
Yes. There are several situations where it is even appropriate.
E. g.: she is showing the way, she is of a lower rank than me at work, she is standing in the right position.
Hell no. I am a man. I dont let a woman treat me like I am a bitch. I open the door for her, and that's it.
i've done this for multiple males, they just say thank you and are appreciative. they don't seem shocked. it should be normal...
Just open the door to your heart while you’re at it!
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