If you're not a good looking guy , does that also affect how MEN treat you as well?

[Anonymous]

Or not?

I ask this because most men ACT either very annoyed by me or very cocky/condescending towards me but with a sprinkle of irritation thrown in there

With woman it's mixed but in general they tend to be netruel from what I'm assuming

[D_Bone_Steak]

I can't even tell if other men are attractive or not. It's only the behavior I have to go off from. I think when it comes to judging other men physically, I basically size them up with a basic question... Could I beat them up? It's either maybe, hell yeah, or yeah, he could kick my ass.

Behavior is a big factor though. I start out as polite and then learn over time how I should act around them. Now if someone is immediately annoying the shit out of me or acting a certain way... my judgments are pretty quick. I had to deal with thousands of people per day when I was a working man, so I'm pretty rigid like that IRL... here online I'm pretty much the same asshole my wife and kids love.

[Asker]

I'm just curious because a lot of men have tried to either start some petty shit towards me or actually CARE that I'm there in the vicinity

As odd as that sounds

The females are no better... they were legit scared of me or found me disgusting &/or irritating

[D_Bone_Steak]

It doesn't sound odd to me... I'm a fucking pretty boy... a 9.5 out of 10... and I've had dudes get seriously pissed off at me for stealing their chick's gaze, for being more popular, and for just being better than they are. Which is probably why I size people up... only guys that can kick my ass will start to give me shit or act like a dick. Most dudes are cool though and they don't take it there... the chances are just greater with a female in the room.

With chicks... not so much for me, if they act distant, it is usually because they know they're not in my league and if they don't... they start acting overly sexual like that's going to score them points.

I'd say just hit the gym and get buff... especially skinny buff. It even changes your face and not just your body. It adds a couple of points to your 1 to 10 scale for sure. It worked for me. I'll explain how if you're interested.

Oh and how I know I'm a 9.5 is because I did one of those rate me sites. My score was pretty high and I hooked up with a lot of chicks on that site.

[Asker]

I'm already lean (gym rat) with some visible cuts here & there

People physically have given me mixed ratings of either 6's or 7's of the face

I've been called "gay" by other men

[D_Bone_Steak]

Ah shit that sucks... I've been called gay so many times as well to be fair. The annoying part is fags hit on me aggressively... I must be what they look for in a man, but it is annoying as all shit.

Have you checked your behavior and that perception? You seem pretty chill to me, but things come off differently IRL than here online. I have to ask that question though to try and figure out why you get so much negative attention.

Do you know who Wheat Waffles is on youtube? maybe one of his theories to be honest if you happen to be born a little off looking.

[Asker]

I'm chill but I have gotten attention from gay men as well

I'm a chill dude as I don't talk much or try to engage in convos with most people

[D_Bone_Steak]

You might just be experiencing what most of us have to go through in that case. It's got nothing to do with your looks. Consider that everybody gets shit from at least a group of certain types of peoples. Shit, I get shit for being white from SJW's even though they don't even know me. On other sites I get shit for being black too and these internet people don't even understand I'm not really black. Is what it is... take life with a grain of salt

[OfMiceandMen]

Most men don't care, they may change their attitude when women are present, because they think its about competition. However, most women would recognize a guy putting down another guy to catch their attention and see him for what he is. If they don't, she's either too obtuse and/or shallow like the good looking guy, and your better off not knowing either of them.

[Asker]

What about overly attractive men/guys? How do average guys see them?

[OfMiceandMen]

I would imagine the attractive guy would look at an average guy as a buddy or a friend depending on whether they got along really well and as long as the overly attractive guy wasn't to high on himself.

[Asker]

But how would the average guys view him? Would they be jealous?

[OfMiceandMen]

Only if they are insecure, if they aren't they would see the guy for what he is... potentially a good friend where looks don't come into play.

[Asker]

But not with the ugly guy

He's immediately out asked regardless?

[Asker]

Casted out

Typo

[OfMiceandMen]

Not at all. Finding friends these days that are like-minded and do the same things are very rare, so why would the appearance of that guy really come into play?

[Asker]

It has with me

Most dudes have actively avoided wanting to talk to me & would get irritated when I would greet them in public

Some would get irritated by my presence

[OfMiceandMen]

You obviously haven't found the right people yet. Be sure you don't identify, everyone who is good looking, with the bad apples you've come across, as you may miss out by being bitter yourself.

[Asker]

So I'm being actively disrespected because I'm not in their league?

[Heolurt]

As someone with an extremely ugly deformed face, guys don't ever act differently to me unless females are around and they get into that mode where guys feel the need to show off or act like assholes to try and impress females. Otherwise it's normally just kids or females who comment on my face, guys tend to either keep to themselves.

[kinggeorge007]

Yeah probably. I'm not tall and people think they are entitled to lecture me and shit. I'm not up to that shit

[Anonymous]

They will likely call you beta because they are douches

[Rockstarrrrr]

Not really... But some guys might pick on you as a way of boosting their ego...

[Anonymous]

I mean in a sense being short is unattractive if your a guy so yes all the time lol

[Koru_isme]

Sometimes depends on the person