Guys how often do you think about the Roman Empire & why?

[Anonymous]

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Guys are only after one thing and it's... Pax Romana

[RealMarek]

I think about it often, probably because of how much I love history and geography. A common misperception is that the West is some sort of continuation of the Greco-Roman civilization. While the West was influenced by the Classical civilization, and the Byzantines and Arabs as well, it is its own culture that was born around 1000 AD in northern Germany and spread across Western Europe from there. The Western mentality as expressed in its architecture, religion, mathematics, and art has much more to do with the mentality of the precursor Germanic and Viking tribes and how they perceived time and space than it does with the mentality of the Romans.

[Asker]

Maybe. Though I know Germananic tribes basically took over the western part of the Roman empire including Italy and North Africa. That's the vandals which ended up in Spain and North Africa. Lombards in Italy. Goths in Spain and France. Frank's in France. Angles, juuts and saxons in England. Alemanni in Switzerland. All of them basically took on some Roman architecture, mathematics even language and definitely religion. The Frank's spread this to Germany & Austria areas when they set up the Holy Roman Empire. The Norman's too were definitely influenced by the Roman empire.

[RealMarek]

That is all true. For centuries they mimicked the architecture of the Pantheon and eastern churches. These were not actually a product of Classical culture, but were the product of the cultural revolution that began in Syria around 0-100 AD and swept across the Mediterranean Basin. It was associated with the spread of eastern mystery cults and Christianity throughout the empire as well as the transformation of Greco-Roman paganism from local cults to a systematic religion with proscribed deities and doctrines under the neoplatonists. But yes, after the Germanic tribes conquered the Western Empire, they continued these forms and precursor Classical forms for centuries. This persisted until the Gothic cultural movement had its genesis in northern Germany in about 1000 AD. All of the sudden gothic cathedrals sprang up. Mathematical developments begin that culminate on the infinitesimal element in calculus. Religiously, Catholicism transforms in key ways under Germanic influence and the question of will, even the conflation of will and being, becomes a dominant concern of Western faith in a way that would have been incomprehensible to earlier Christians or Eastern Christians. It is no accident that the Great Schism between East and West that took place around this time could not be healed. The spread of Western culture across Western Europe was not without resistance.

[RealMarek]

One could view the Italian Renaissance with its look backward to Greco-Roman forms to be a reaction against it. However, the Renaissance artists were for the most part unable to escape the influence of the new culture. For example, instead of focusing on the immediate like the Greco-Romans always did, they emphasize depth through use of the vanishing point. I am not as well versed in the case of Ireland, but my sense is that they were also slow to adopt the Western mindset. While these regions retained different aesthetics as an echo of what came before the West, they ultimately became Western in essence. Basically, what I am suggesting is that the West has always been obsessed in a way with Classical culture and made use of Classical cultural output and advancements, but after 1000 AD, it understood this inheritance in its own cultural and spiritual lens in a way that no Classical man could have comprehended.

[Asker]

Well the Roman empire continued in the east right up until 1453. I think the renaissance was made possible by byzantine fleeing to Italy as well as the rediscovery of ancient knowledge in Rome itself. The renaissance didn't just copy the Roman era but improved upon it. The great domes in Muslim mosques are based on the hagia Sofia in contantinople

[RealMarek]

Yes, this is true. The importance of the eastern Roman Empire is often overlooked.

[Peter_Penetrator]

Not very often. But l do agree that the United States is the new Roman Empire.


Our continued complacency of having the strongest military in the world will be our demise. We are, however, very fortunate that the United States is not a landlocked country.


Interesting fact: The verdict is still out that what befell the Romans was lead poisoning. Lead was used for containers to cook whatever they chose to drink. Plus they used lead pipes for drinking water, aqueducts, cups, utensils, grape juice concentrate as a sweetener prepared in lead containers.

[Peter_Penetrator]

Pax Augusta….

[Bricealan]

Contrary to what many think, I think about it a LOT, as I have been to Rome, and saw where the Appian Way once was and what remains of it. I did not get to see as much of the Coliseum as I would have liked.

Gladiator was very special for me, as I saw where they fought and many died, although not as many as the films would have your believe.

As for me I would have like to have lived during that time in history.

[Asker]

On a school trip in England visited Hadrians wall

[Bricealan]

You are very lucky to have seen it. I saw a portrayal of it during the movie: THE EAGLE. ...

[AmeerX]

😅 actually I like King Atilla invading Byzantine. Personally I like the Eastern Roman Empire more than the Western Roman Empire. I don't know why but Eastern seemed more Grand.

I like how Alp Arslan of Seljuks spared the Roman Emperor, sadly he was blinded by his own people. And Ottomans capture of Constantinople is pretty Grand gesture. The Muslims used to Narrate the Prophet saying who ever joined the seige of Constantinople would go to heaven. I imagine it was just to brainwash Muslims to fight more rigoursly.

The saddest part is Crusaders destroying and invading their own fellow Christians otherwise Roman Empire would have it's lifeline prolonged by at least a few hundred more years. European mindset in 20th century has been to divide Europe among ethnicities and weaken potential powers like Yugoslavia. It's just an opinion so please don't come bombarding me with lots of hate

[Asker]

I did well in GCSE & A levels history. All the christian kingdoms at the time were rival powers and byzantine was another rival who were also a separate religion.
The Roman empire survives to this day in Rome, especially the Vatican. Do you know that the majority of obelisks of ancient Egypt are in Rome not Egypt?
The Eastern roman empire survived nearly a 1000 years after the Western empire collapsed, it had its day.
The ottomans needed to capture contantinople.
1452 is when the constantinople fell, in something like 1492 the spainish and Portuguese finally reconquered Spain from the Muslims and Christopher columns discovered America and the Portuguese sailed around Africa which began the decline of the southern Mediterranean states and middle Eastern countries as all the Atlantic countries started to become very wealthy from colonising new lands, new sources of gold and new trade routes to India and China.
In the 20th century most of the big european monarchies and empires fell from the results of 2 World wars and a cold war, but its good that they fell.

[AmeerX]

Everything has an expiry date, even empires. Still rivalry among Christian nations seems like what Muslim Empires used to do especially Persian and Ottomans.

[Exterminatore]

Often. I like the history. They are a fascinating people. Their art and language are beautiful as is their architecture. I am learning to speak Latin. I’m Catholic now, so our church is the Roman church, the Latin Church. We practice both the Roman and Latin rite for mass. So inevitability it pops into my mind frequently. I feel much more comfortable with their patriarchal society than our gynocentric one.

[Exterminatore]

FACITE ROMAM MAGNAM INTERVM!

[rigmarole]

In what context exactly? You mean like putting whoopin on Hessian mercenaries at the Battle of Trenton? Or as in so Black Sun Empire Nazis that are getting their ass handed to them by some Russians over in Ukraine? Can't say I'm a huge fan of Satanic Roman aristocratic Black Nobility...

[rigmarole]

*putting a
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[Asker]

You realise most of the first Americans are of German descent like hessians?

[rigmarole]

As in they speak a Germanic language or as in they are part o the House of Hesse? Where specifically are you trying to go with this.

[Asker]

That they come from the German regions like German auxiliaries serving the British military

[rigmarole]

People fleeing religious persecution, military conscription, monarchy's refusal to accept human rights, and genocide from authoritarian rulers aren't generally too fond of Black Nobility either...

[rigmarole]

Of course the Roman aristocracy has wealthy economic arms in America and they control foot soldiers like the Iron Horsemen motorcycle gang and the Hessian motorcycle gang as well as certain Neo-Nazi groups, but the majority of Americans with German heritage aren't down with that shit.

[RedInnocent68]

Not often, but oddly yes, occasionally (maybe once in a month, in earnest). I’d love to take a beach holiday to just read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall. It also comes up in the context of the polarization in political conversations and the state of American democracy 🤔

[Starrrboy]

Well , I'm a simp for history content 😂.. so every now and then I'll come across something about it.. I think the Romans were pretty savages by today's standards... but for their time , heck they were pretty good and contributed a lot to civilization...

[Drewtate]

I think about it a lot. We owe basically everything in western civilisation to the Roman empire. Also we owe a lot to the Ancient Greeks. Some to the Persians and phoenicians and of course Egyptians and Hebrews.

[DarkWinterNights]

More and more the last several years. It’s parallels to America, the class and wealth divide, the widespread corruption and its moral degradation. It’s probably the closest example in history of a country like America and how it collapses.

[dreamstar72]

Quite a lot, because if the USA doesn’t start watching we are heading we will fall also. Major problem is keeping our nose and money out of countries problems.

[Astarlessnightsky]

(Almost) never, unless i encounter this topic in a movie/book/game/somewhere else, and even than i don't waste a second thought on this

[ohsheeT]

I haven't really thought about it until you brought it up

Just think where we would be today if they didn't change what was in the Bible and who we were meant to be

[Asker]

What did they change?

[FunkyMonkee]

I know of a few girls whose empire I'd love to go raomin' through, that's about as far as I get into that topic.

[CubaPirate]

It was an hard act to follow but us British 🇬🇧 did our best

[Asker]

We remember lol

[Fabiloso]

You can learn many things from them. Not that it helps much but good to know

[OfMiceandMen]

I recall they kicked ass for quite a while around the Mediterranean Sea, there's been a few movies about the rise, but you don't typically here to much about the fall.

[ProbablyClueless]

From time to time... the Roman Empire is extremely similar to the US, in a lot of ways.

[bowenw]

Rarely unless a friend posts photos of a visit to Rome or ruins elsewhere.

[Willlovewinintheend]

How many times people are going to post this same question.

[worldscolide]

Frequently, considering the US is headed the same way if we keep letting leftists have power.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

Whenever a person who speaks Spanish claims to be a dead language (Latin). I therefore say: Salve, amicus (ahoy, friend). Memento mori (remember the death). Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus (never tickle a sleeping dragon).

[Sevenpointfive]

the romans were assholes and tools. i love watching them on shows but i really don't think about them

[Charliefretz329]

As in the fall of it and how it compares to the US. Scary

[Staximus]

Not very often. They were a bunch of butt pirates anyways

[Exterminatore]

Until Constantine outlawed homosexuality.

It is true. Not one of the more adorable attributes of the Romans.

They didn’t care who did who. In their minds it was all about who did the penetrating and was penetrated. The penetrated were viewed as weak.

[Cutesy_kid_lol]

Quite a lot cuz my boyfriend is Romanian and won't shut up bout it lol.

[Cutesy_kid_lol]

Shoot I meant bestfriend lmao

[Mansearching]

Romanian and Italian are 2 different things.

[robocop666]

Thought about it earlier oddly. I have very little knowledge about it though.

[MaxUsefull]

😂😂 feminists really create strawmen all the time

[Likes2drive]

Not very often unless it’s a trivia question

[goldenboybrady70]

America will soon implode like the Roman Empire.

[Asker]

Rome didn't implode.

[BoopBoopBeep]

Maybe twice in my life.

[Lliam]

I'm glad it never conquered Ireland.

[Angelo75]

Once a year or so...

[KostasKouvalis]

Quite often, since I've been there

[Mansearching]

I really honestly don't

[Sparkie460]

I never did until I read your question

[jahaims]

Don't bring tiktok to gag

[DryGermanGuy]

Enough with that stupid joke already!

[Drewtate]

Arminius you got a problem with the Romans?

[pethouse]

I like the Vikings more

[boggboss]

Never lol

[loveslongnails]

Zero, Not at all, ever.

[Anonymous]

is that an actual photo of it?

[renodnol32]

Never. Have other things to think about

[BLP11520]

Very rarely