Do real men care about how women/ their women dress? are men who care honestly insecure?

[Anonymous]

Especially if you met her dressing that way…. I think it’s ridiculous.

Why shame her

[D_Bone_Steak]

I don't think men care how you dress... unless there is a reason. If you're dressing for summer when it's winter or vice versa... don't be retarded. If it's down to fashion... alright, think about this. If I picked up a fashion magazine, who are the people that write all the articles? Gay dudes and women.

I think the context you're getting at is dressing like a slut to get lots of man attention and then your man kinda just doesn't like that because you have other men all over you... am I right? Also, it can look pretty ghetto... imagine bringing a girl dressed like this...

To go meet your Great Grandparents. They're going to look at her like a freaken retard.

A real man wouldn't get with a pure prostitute/slut/attention whore to begin with though... he might fuck her, but he wouldn't try to keep her. She's what we call a practice girl. Only losers try to wife up those girls... and then they eventually just get cheated on... which is probably why they were trying to get her to dress more conservatively, to begin with.

[Asker]

Well he ghosted me bc I told him I wanted to wait for sex… possibly until marriage. He said he wasn’t ready for a relationship so I don't know what his problem was

[D_Bone_Steak]

Probably because you presented yourself as a practice girl and then tried to make it clear that he couldn't use you for practice. I mean think about it... why was sex a topic you had to talk about to begin with? Talk about a shitty date. I'd just do something fun and enjoy myself, but you two were talking about sex and possible marriage?

You really don't see what his problem was? Who wants to "wait until marriage" with some chick that looks like a practice girl? If you were a guy, you'd place you'd bet on a girl like that? I mean, just think about that.

[Asker]

Okay, he thinks I’m a whore, slut etc.. fine I’ll take it. .. but I told him DAY 1 what I wanted. I told him that I was willing to be an emotional placeholder until he becomes exclusive to someone else. I said no sex! I didn’t even want to go on a date.. I just wanted to talk…

He brought up sex bc he wanted to know when I was last intimate with someone.. I only brought up marriage bc I felt that he only possibly wanted to sleep with me… I was trying to see if he would disappear and he did..

But he still shouldn’t be worried about how I dress bc he’s not my man

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think you understand what he was up to just as much as I do. As for him being all judgmental even though he's not investing in you... some people are just assholes like that. I agree that's not his place... and if he did see you as an easy girl to get a lay, it might of offended him to find out it's not going to be easy for him.

There's this saying we have in the manosphere... Women make rules for betas, and women break rules for alphas. I guess he found out he was a beta with you and it hurt his feelings or something... he was probably taking jabs at you by dissing your clothes. I mean, he didn't walk up to you dissing your clothes am I right? I think he probably started doing that after he felt the burn of rejection. No shit he probably thinks every random hits it and he feels like such a loser because he didn't get to hit it.

That's the beta male brain though... I probably would've just hung out and do something fun. Like having a little homie with me and there isn't anything sexual needed to be involved.

You probably dodged a bullet to be real. The dude sounds boring as shit and he only wanted to fuck you like a budget-buy hooker with a piece of paper that says "IOU" written in crayon to pay for the lay. He would've just been another number to the body count in the long run and nothing special would've come out of the interaction.

[Asker]

I was going to break the rules for him bc I did really like him… but I know that I will cause drama and get severely depressed if I allowed him to sleep with me and he leaves me… which would have been his plan after he got what he wanted

I didn’t sleep with him because I know he has the power to hurt me badly… and I’m already broken

I cared about myself enough not to allow him in. He’s a devil

[Asker]

I kind of considered him alpha but him trying to diss me was definitely telling

That’s what attracted me to him… his “masculinity”…. I wanted something real with him bc I thought he was real… I was so attracted to him and he didn’t even realize how much I actually found him to be special

I just loved being in his company… I saw his mail bids are all picked and skin hanging off… on the date… I was wondering if he struggled with anxiety….

I actually cared and he actually didn’t

The only he did was pay for our food. And bc I don’t like driving he offered to take me home or pay for my Lyft

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think it's a positive thing that you cared about yourself enough to not just give up your body for a dude that just wants to smash and pass/hit it and quit it. I get tired of watching girls do that to themselves and then just act depressed because it didn't go anywhere beyond the bedroom. Shit, I watched one of my side chicks do that to themselves and not just because she was with me. She called off the sexual fun with me because she was going to be serious and try to make it work with this one guy... years later and about 24 guys in a row... she's not going anywhere with any of them and the entire time she could've just gotten good clean dick from me and made rational choices by holding out a picking wisely. Still friends though... but I do roll my eyes at each new super stud she thinks is going to be the one. Anyways...

I'm glad you cared about yourself enough to realize the facts about it all and not gamble on some slim chance. I wish more women would wake up and do that. If women did that as a whole, men would try harder to be what you all really want. As it stands though... you might hold out, and he can just go to the next girl that will toss her legs open just because he was nice to her.

[Asker]

In his closure he did mention towards the end that he hopes I find a man who loves me the way I need to be loved.

I hate him for saying that

[D_Bone_Steak]

It's really telling what kind of man he wanted to be for you. I guess at least he understands your needs and hopes the best for you.

Might I ask if he realistically has a higher SMV than you? What I'm getting at is that maybe hypergamy is getting you shit results because you're only going for men that are in a different class than yourself. Like on a scale of 1 to 10... are you a 6 going for only 9's and 10's? If you're looking for something long-term... you might be looking in the wrong places.

[Asker]

I think he’s handsome but I don’t think he’s like over the top.. I was attracted to him because of how level headed he is and he communicated good in the beginning.

I was hot for him… but not for how he looked

[D_Bone_Steak]

🤔 hmmm... I just had a theory on my mind... not sure if it really applies here though.

[Asker]

Ouu I would like to know

[D_Bone_Steak]

Alright... so have you heard the term "alpha widowed" before? It's where a chick gets with a guy that's way better than her, and then she gets it in her head that since that guy slept with her, she actually deserves a guy that great... even though he treated her like dirt and just used her for sex.

Here's a stat that lines up with what I was thinking...80% of the women only go for the top 20% of the men.

But like I said... I'm not sure it applies to you. I was thinking of a woman that only shoots far above her own worth and she thinks she deserves that man. Then she wonders why those men don't waste their time and energy on her. Basically the negative side of hypergamy in action.

[Asker]

Never heard and I definitely think that’s me

I do have attachment issues tho and I could struggle with limerence too

[D_Bone_Steak]

Interesting... especially with the mention of limerence.

I'm especially drawn towards MGTOW/red pill content because they attempt to explain the psychology of a woman when my book studies side of things won't go near the subject with a 10 foot pole. I don't want you to think I'm a part of some he-man woman hater's club... I just try to understand.

I mean I'm married for over 20 years... I'm far from being MGTOW. I enjoy the content though.

[GuyAnswersGirls123]

I don't know if I count but I prefer women who dress relatively conservatively and modestly. I'm not insecure about it. For example, people will still a lot of her skin anyway when she's on the beach in a swimsuit. I don't mind.

I just prefer women who are reasonably classy with their everyday attire. I think they have good taste. I also genuinely find it more attractive. When women dress in skimpy clothes all the time and not just at the beach, there's not much to get excited about taking off.

[LazerBean]

Real men are smart enough to get a woman who shares his opinion on clothing.

[aceleon]

again with this jealousy= insecurity crap?

let me do you a single math

woman dressing revealingly= other guys looking at her and eye fucking her and having dirty thoughts about her= the man who is with her getting ticked off in the wrong way since he doesn't want another male and her in the same picture because jealousy/possesiveness is a natural emotion even non-monogamous animals feels.

now go and claim they are insecure too.

[Asker]

And that’s cool but he’s not with me and he said he wasn’t ready for a relationship.. then he ghost me bc I wanted to wait until marriage for sex… I’m im very confused

[aceleon]

for being possesive we don't need a relationship
we want you to be ours but we don't wanna belong to anyone, this is what male sexuality is, he is just acting raw.

[Asker]

Whatever… if he liked me he would ask me to be his girlfriend and then I will cover up

But this wasn’t possessiveness this was more shame

And to bring my father into it… umm ok

[aceleon]

shames you to possess you.
also he doesn't need to like you to be possesive.
either way good luck i guess.

[Asker]

Then what does he have to be

[aceleon]

easy
a straight male who got close enough with a straight girl he founded attractive.

[Asker]

Mm I don't know about straight male but okay

[aceleon]

? do you have doubts that he is not straight?

[Asker]

Yeah

He’s into trans porn

[aceleon]

so? most porn addicts does, it doesn't make him gay, it makes him a porn addict, he is not even seeing the trans one as a guy probably, if he cuts porn for a while he will be back to normal.

[Asker]

I mean he actively follows a trans woman who lives in our same city

She has explicit content up.

[aceleon]

well i don't know then.

[Asker]

Exactly lol

[Anonymous]

Not trying to be all up in your business (its anonymous anyway)

You mention you told him you wanted to wait for marriage. And from context I can assume you have provocative pictures online.

Those two things don't really go well together. Are you actually a virgin, or just celibate?

[Asker]

I’m a virgin

My pics don’t mean I’m a whore. I don’t sleep with anyone

[Anonymous]

What exactly is a real man?
Most likely I would never go out w a girl who dressed provocatively. I might sleep w her, but for a serious relationship, no. I like a girl who dresses modest, conservative. It’s not about insecurity either it’s what I prefer.

[Asker]

I went on a date with a dude who knew how I dressed and never brought it up during our talking stage. So I never thought it was a problem.

Then on the date he tries to shame me.

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. Then he shouldn’t have gone on a date w you if he knew you dressed like that. But more than likely he didn’t same something because he knew if he did you most likely wouldn’t like it and you probably wouldn’t date him again. Men don’t say a lot of things to women for those reasons. Especially if your options are limited.

[Asker]

Right I was too “imperfect “ for him… I really have no idea why we agreed on a date. We had issues in our talking stage… a lot of it was brought on by me bc I wasn’t looking for anything serious or casual.. he knew that and I even told him that I’m a walking red flag.

But he brought my father into this asking what he would think about the way I dress.

[Opinion Owner]

So what exactly were you Loki g for?

[Opinion Owner]

Looking

[Asker]

I really just like attention and I wanted to talk. Kind of be a placeholder… I could be an emotional support or something until he moves on

I told him all this though.

[Opinion Owner]

I never understood that whole placeholder girlfriend. But no sex right?

[Asker]

Right…. I’m just the phone girlfriend until you move on..

He felt like it was a waste of time but … I don't know what to say… I didn’t want anything

I did tell him I was willing to take things slow… but o well… when he went on the date he shamed me and I don't know why… especially since he said he wasn’t ready for a relationship

[Opinion Owner]

He may not have been ready for a relationship but he sure wanted sex. To me a placeholder girlfriend is just a waste of time. No benefit to that really for a man.

[Asker]

Yeah but he made me feel like he wanted more…

Why did he shame me if he only wanted sex… why did he even mention my father in regards to how I dress

[Opinion Owner]

He made you feel like he wanted more because as men most of us know that’s what women want to hear. Whether it’s for purely sex or a real relationship that’s how the game is played. He probably shamed you because he was going to get sex from you. So he felt rejected. To get back at you he hit you w something he knew would get to you.

[Asker]

How can he feel rejected when I told him what I wanted in the beginning.. I’m so lost

I’m not going to say he wanted a relationship but he did think I wanted something serious. He even asked what’s the safest way to interact with me bc I was protecting myself…he said I shouldn’t punish everyone for someone else’s sins

But he never love bombed me. I feel every irrational emotion and thought I had he met it with level headed ness and patience

He did admit that he didn’t like how things started off between us.

[Opinion Owner]

Most likely because he probably thought he could get you to change your mind. That’s why he was feeding you all that bs to make you think he wanted more. It’s possible he did want more but you stuck to what you said about not wanting something serious. So he may have got offended because you were “on guard” in regards to men. So he felt as though you were throwing him in there w all men. That’s why he said you shouldn’t punish everyone else for someone else is sins.

[Asker]

Yeah I thought it was genuine in the beginning.. I don't know anymore

I got my closure… much later

He said he didn’t want to invest his time if we weren’t going to eventually have sex. I asked him if that’s all he wanted and he said “ I don’t want to go back and forth with you because you misunderstand what I say “

He said we can check in here and there. You’re perfect nothing is wrong and I hope you find a man who loves you the way you need to be loved

[Opinion Owner]

Sounds like it was just a big mess from the start. It it’s better that you found out right away before it went any further. Hard to say what he really waters w out actually being there. So why aren’t you looking for something serious right now?

[Asker]

I ended up really liking him… maybe the date wasn’t good

[Opinion Owner]

So why don’t really like attention? Is that attention from people in general or men?

[Asker]

Men mostly

[Asker]

I love attention and validation ONLINE… I wasn’t trying to take it further. He actually never complimented my other pics.. he complimented the one of me smiling.

[Opinion Owner]

So validation through pics? Don’t feel as though you’re not pretty or something? Where’s the validation issue come from?

[Asker]

Yeah…

Mostly because men end up dogging me in the end and finding someone better. I like to feel in control of the situation and the outcome…

I hate that I let him in. I really liked him. I thought he was someone who saw me as more than a placeholder and would accept me for what I am. I was wrong

He ended up doing the most damage bc he proved me right.

[Opinion Owner]

I’m a little confused. You said you weren’t looking for a serious relationship or casual so why are you upset? Plus you told him you were a walking red flag.

[Asker]

Yeah in the beginning… but I was starting to like him bc I thought he kind of saw me as more…

I did try and sabotage it in the beginning bc I didn’t want anything but when he said “I'm not sure what you've been through, and I entirely understand if you've dealt with people like that, but it's important to not make everyone suffer for someone else's sins” I kind of though about what he said bc it was true

Then that’s when I said I would like to take things slow.

[Asker]

*thought about what he said

[Opinion Owner]

I see. I can see why he would say that. I mean for a girl to come out and say that. I probably wouldn’t want to get involved either. I take this as more on your part. If I took a girl on a date and she said that all to me I’d think ok. This is. A no go for me. She obviously don’t want a relationship, she has issues which she’s aware of. So I’m thankful for her at least telling me this. But I don’t want to pursue her any further.

[Asker]

But this is when we FIRST STARTED TALKING… like the second day…

He didn’t say this on the date!

He knew about all of this before our date… so I don’t understand why we even went on the date tbh…

That’s why I’m confused

That’s why im hurt bc I felt like he was genuine and he even told me that I should really take some time to myself before talking to someone.

I think the only reason we met up is bc he kind of gave me an ultimatum… he said we either meet up or we stop talking

Bc we were kind of wasting eachothers time

But I felt he dogged me in the end…

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. I can see why you’d meet up w him if you liked him. But at the same time I don’t like ultimatums. I think I would have looked at that as a red flag on his part. Part of me feels he was just trying to sleep w you. But again you stuck to what you said so he wasn’t feeling that. What’s the longest relationship you’ve ever had?

[Asker]

And that hurts even more bc I wasn’t totally sure if that’s all he wanted and why he would do that to me knowing that I don’t want that. So now I understand why he asked me if I were emotional in the beginning

But he did say he wasn’t looking for sex ONLY or specifically

This made me feel super depressed tho.. like I really didn’t want to wake up… and on the date he said he didn’t want to sleep with me bc he was scared I’ll be “crazier”

I’ve never been in a committed relationship. I have had hurtful situationships tho

[Opinion Owner]

I think you kind of killed your chances right from the beginning by saying what you said. I’m thinking he was thinking maybe if I go out w her I can at least get her to sleep w me. As for him saying he wasn’t just looking for sex. That may be true, it may not be. Men usually aren’t going to come straight out and telling women they’re just looking to fuck. Because chances are she’s not going to go for that. So he has to lie. As for him saying he didn’t want to sleep w you because he was scared you’ll be crazier, that tells me yes he was just looking for sex. Because if you weren’t crazy already would he have slept w you? Probably.

[Asker]

Yeah when he said that it really really really hurt.. I think I’m the end he just tried to shame me , insult me and then ghost me…

When he said that it meant he didn’t want me to get attached

But I told him off in the beginning bc I thought he may have just wanted to fck but it was actually miscommunication… but I told him if that’s what he’s looking for then he needs to find a woman who wants the same thing he’s looking for…

He played it very smart… I’ll give him that. I almost got GOT.

I hate him but at the same time Still have feelings..

But I’m still quite depressed about it

[Opinion Owner]

I get what he meant by getting crazier. Meaning you’re going to act more possessive, attached, constantly calling or texting him. Sound as though you fall for men quickly?

[Opinion Owner]

But like I said sounds like it was all a big mess from the beginning. Why so attached so quickly?

[Asker]

True… but I would only sleep with a man who wants a relationship with me and who I feel emotionally safe with. I expressed to him that I’m big on protecting that bc yes… you’re not just going to use me and then expect me to get over it and you dump me… especially when I told you that in the beginning..

Yes I have attachment issues and fear of abandonment.. but I am also a virgin

Just bc I post pics for attention doesn’t mean I’m an actual whore.

He should have found other women to sleep with. Why did he try to trick me and then I got dumped in the end anyway.

So if I were to sleep with him he was going to bounce

[Asker]

His actions were entirely selfish and just evil. I was nice enough to tell him to move on bc I do have issues… but I couldn’t get the same respect or decency? He pissed me off

[Opinion Owner]

So you’ve never done anything sexual w a man before? So yes you may not be a whore, but things like posting pics on line for attention or the way one dresses may say otherwise to a lot of people. I mean if you seen a man walking down the street in a military uniform, cop uniform or nurse outfit you’d assume they are what they are based on their choice of clothing. But what if they’re not either of those? Men tend to judge women on their clothing, the way they dress just as a lot of women judge men on other things.

[Asker]

And I totally understand that bc I said I love attention but I set my boundaries clear with him. I think if you’re trying to trick me into sex when I told you No thats not what I want is kind of predatory…. It’s predatory behavior… especially if i told you I have issues..

You don’t if I have sexual trauma or not.. I put in my bio what I wanted and I let him know.

Coercing me into sex is wrong and then treating me as if I’m nothing is even worse

I was honest and up front.

I struggle with my mental health. I can’t handle stuff like this. That’s why I’m always honest and up front

[Opinion Owner]

I see. Well I’m sorry for how things turned out. I can understand how it can be w trying to meet someone who wants something serious. Seems these days a lot of people aren’t interested in actual relationships. I feel for you. I like that you’re upfront about what you’re looking for. Women’s rent usually like that. It saves a lot of time for you as well as someone else who may not have good intentions.

[Asker]

It’s cool. I just can’t believe he did that to me..

I thought he liked me

Why did he want to hurt me so badly

[Opinion Owner]

Immaturity? Could be a lot of reasons. Maybe he’s been hurt too so he doesn’t care about hurting women. May I ask do you know or remember exactly when this abandonment issue became a problem?

[Asker]

I’m 26 and he’s almost 37…. No excuse… he may have been hurt.. but I wanted to love him…

[Opinion Owner]

You may not think he has no excuse but he may feel as though he does. Age doesn’t always mean you’re wiser or more mature. I know a lot of people both men and women who are immature.

[Asker]

Very true. I really need to let him go. We only talked two weeks

But still stings

I think he might be DL

[Opinion Owner]

Yes I think you need to let him go. I mean honestly you never had him to begin w. But he doesn’t seem like a good person for you. Is it easy for you to meet men?

[Asker]

Not really. I don’t think I’m that attractive and I have issues

But I do like what I do online. I like being a placeholder. Tbh as awful as it sounds

[Opinion Owner]

But wouldn’t you rather be someone’s girlfriend than just a placeholder? What’s the oldest man you’d date?

[Asker]

Because they’ve never thought I was good enough

The oldest I’ll date is 34

[Asker]

So he didn’t like me?

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t think he liked you in the way you wanted him to. So you’ve never had a long term boyfriend?

[Asker]

He did say we can check in here and there and he did say he hopes I find a man who loves me the way I need to be loved…

[Opinion Owner]

What’s the out of checking in?

[Opinion Owner]

To me there’s no point in that. To me it’s just a way to see possibly later on down the road if you’d sleep w him. Maybe I could be wrong maybe he might want something serious w you later on. But based on what he said about you getting crazier, I don’t think so

[Asker]

Lmao I feel like absolute shit

I lowkey do want to be loved. I want to prove to him that I am good enough… he really thinks I’m nothing

But what ever. I’m about to train to join the Air Force

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t think you need to prove anything to him. You need to prove to yourself you can improve, do better, make your life what you want. May I ask what state you’re in? I was in the military myself.

[Asker]

Texas

[Asker]

You felt he didn’t want me or care at all?

[Opinion Owner]

From what you’re saying no not in the way you wanted him.

[Opinion Owner]

I was stationed in el pass for a while. Didn’t care for the humidity much

[Asker]

Oh okay, I want to be stationed overseas.

I thought maybe he was being a bit possessive over the way I dressed bc maybe he did want more

[Opinion Owner]

So if you two dated you wouldn’t let him have a say in what you wear?

[Asker]

I would definitely! I didn’t know it bothered him…

Was he shaming me or was he jealous/possessive?

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t think it was being jealous or possessive. I think like I said you rejecting him on the sex part made him defensive so he hit back at you w what he knew would get at your feelings. I think k he may have thought you were easy based on how you were dressed. Which by the way may I ask how you were dressed? A lot of men don’t like how a lot of women dress these days. But they won’t say it because again they’re probably not going to want to give him a chance. Automatically he’s probably labeled as a misogynist. Just like a lot of men won’t tell a girl a high body count matters.

[Asker]

Check out this question

Why was he concerned about what my dad thinks… on a first date…about my pics… ?(pics are below… what do you think?

See if you can find this question… the pics should still be there

[Asker]

Why was he concerned about what my dad thinks… on a first date…about my pics… ?(pics are below… what do you think? ↗

[Opinion Owner]

No I don’t see it. Wish I could. Is there a way to see it? Can I find your screen name somewhere to message you directly

[Asker]

Did you click on the link?

[Opinion Owner]

I did but nothing. It just takes me to the how do I look section. So I type your question in the seat ck engine n it brought up a pic w tits n a leopard outfit or something. I tried clicking on it but it’s not available

[Asker]

Chelsdope0

[Opinion Owner]

I followed you. Can you message me through there. Starts w a Y

[Asker]

I messaged you

[SotiCoto]

I've got preferences, but I'm not sure that is what you're asking, is it?
I mean some things will get more of a reaction from me than others. Some positive, some negative.

I'm not one to impose my will... but if she starts wearing contact lenses or horribly asymmetric clothing... I'm just gone. Vanished. Absolutely not talking to her again. Simple as that.

[RavVid]

I think we want our girl to look good. I am getting an implication that it is skimpy dressing you are getting at.

We are quite entitled to have a standard that she doesn't dress like a ho and dump her if she does.

[Asker]

But I’m not his girl and he said he wasn’t ready for a relationship so what’s the issue

[RavVid]

Ah! Didn't get that from the question. So how were you dressed - were you pretty much showing everything? If you were out together, there must be some form of association. Have you had sex as you said 'their women'.

I did feel somewhat insulted once as as just an escort.

[Asker]

On the date no. I was very covered up. I wore a dress jacket…

But my pics online are suggestive but not horrible

I didn’t sleep with him and I’m not an escort

[RavVid]

Two uses of the word escort 1/ prostitute 2/ a person who a accompanies another of opposite gender without romantic or sexual purposes.

I was using in the later sense in my case.

Back to your sit and question. If I took a girl on a date I would expect her focus to be on me and not on flirting with other guys and getting numbers. I might well care about how she dresses if it seems to be for getting attention. It is just good manners not to insult your companion.

Obviously it is very easy for a girl to get attention by dressing in a revealing way. I might conclude a girl that dresses for attention is not a girl to attempt a relationship with. Or even be seen in public with if she looks like a crass two bit ho.

So I/we can care about how women dress because I/we have standards - it is not insecurities.

I'm not getting your date's attitude if your were dressed modestly but attractively. Perhaps he does care about what he saw online. We do put girls into the buckets of ones to have sex with and ones to have relationships with. Did he seem to be jealous?

[BoopBoopBeep]

I don't want to look like I have a street walker on my arm when we go somewhere classy, so, yes. If I went to a fancy dinner with your parents and wore torn jeans and a wifebeater tshirt with stains on it, you wouldn't care?

[RebelinSteel]

I really don’t care, it’s her clothes and she can dress how’s she happy, tbh though most of my ex’s have worn everything from goth / egirl n short skirts and short tops to fairly normal clothing (if there is normal).

[HighValue]

People should be treated the way they present themselves. If they dress like a prostitute/whore, treating them that way is fine.

[Asker]

Except it’s not

You don’t know their story.

[aceleon]

we don't have to either? we are not living in a sherlock holmes story or such things, your story doesn't change the pesent time aka your past doesn't justify anything if it was none of us would have anything to say towards serial killers.

[HighValue]

Usually, people that say "real men" are low quality feminist people with bad morals and are angry when people point out that they are low quality.

[CozyCoffin]

I think it has to mostly do with how others perceive him. Especially with his parents and friends. How do others perceive me as a person with her by my side?

[Staximus]

If a woman goes out without her boyfriend or husband dressed like she's looking for attention from other men, what the hell is he supposed to think?

[jahaims]

Yes and no. If you dress provocatively in public you are seeking sexual attention to try and compensate for insecurities

[Enginn]

No. Not too revealing or dirty clothes. Dress like a modern woman thats fine. Insecurity has nothing to do with this.

[Asker]

None Insecure men don’t shame you on a date…. He never mentioned my pics before why now… and for him to bring my father into it…

He asked if my father would approve of my pics…

Like that’s none of my father’s business. We are both grown

[Enginn]

You see it as shaming or he is just being honest with you what he likes or not. Its all about perspective. We want women to be nice not problematic. If its a big problem to you you can look for another relationship.

[Asker]

Okay but if it were a problem he should have told me that in the beginning… I don’t mind covering up BUT only if we are in a relationship and he never said he wanted a relationship… he said on the date that he wasn’t ready so I don’t understand why he even mentioned it.

If he wanted sex it shouldn’t have been a problem if that’s all he wanted. So I’m confused

[msc545]

Most women will provide a men with a lot more emergent things to worry about other than the way she dresses.

[Anonymous]

I really wouldn't care unless it was super embarrassing.

[KrakenAttackin]

She needs to be shamed if she wears the whore uniform.

[Anonymous]

😆😆😆

[Asker]

…… mmm ok