Overall, I have a good relationship with men as a whole. Because I am a decent person, I will help a male. My ex boyfriend treated me like shit. When I was assaulted at work, he never checked to make sure I was okay. But it was my male friends that checked in on me and tried to convince me to go to the ER. And when I refused to go because I felt my injuries weren't severe enough, they said they respect that. No, I wasn't severely hurt but I wanted him to check in on me like a good boyfriend and he never even sent a text asking if I was okay. Plus I was pretty traumatized because I was assaulted. I won't let one shitty experience from my ex tarnish my view of men as a whole. I care deeply for the men in my life and I'll do anything for them because I know they'll do anything for me.
thats sad , i will literally beat the hell out of someone if they assault my loved ones , i hope you do great now.
It was a patient of mine and she has pages and pages of severe mental health issues. She strangled my neck for at least 5-8 seconds. My neck was really bruised and I had difficulty eating or drinking food, other than that I was fine. My male friends kept checking in on me but my boyfriend at the time didn't, my male friends showing me they care gave me hope. Thank God they showed me they cared because the fact that my boyfriend never checked if I was okay, tore me up inside.
you were in a relationship with the wrong guy , there are a lot of kind and good men there.
Agreed. Looking back, there was a lot of red flags that I want to do another my take on.
mention me when you make it :)
Sure thing!
I was gonna say... how'd you end up with that bf? And how long did it take after being assaulted and him not caring to break up? Please, please, PLEASE, be careful with dudes! There's all types out there and ya gotta be on your toes at all time ready for them to show an evil side! A question though... where were the other women? Did they help at all too?
@errorgoodnameunfound yes, as for my girl friends they also wanted me to go down to the ER. One of them is a nurse, so she assessed my neck. She agreed my neck was real banged up but said I should go down to the ER just so X-rays could be done. I refused to go to the ER, because I felt my injuries weren't severe enough. If I lost consciousness, then sure I'll go, but I didn't. Another girl friend gave me some pain meds and soft foods to eat, because that was all I could tolerate. Since it happened at work, all my girl friends let name know what steps I had to take and all the paperwork I had to fill out. For a while after the assault, my friends were especially protective of me. My boss even called me at home to chew me out for refusing to go to the ER.
@errorgoodnameunfound as for my then boyfriend, once I got home, I told my family what happened. They freaked and made sure I was okay. After I talked to them, I took some pain meds and went to bed. Once I woke up the next morning, and saw that he still hadn't checked to see if I was okay, I called him, woke him up, and screamed at home over the phone. I didn't call him super early either, it was about 10 am, but my ex was never a morning person. Anyways I told him that we had to talk and I was planning to break up with him. Unfortunately, right before I was planning to sit him down and break up with him, he ended things over text. He definitely knew I wanted to end things, so I think he ended things first over text for that reason. A total stranger saw the bruises on my neck and asked if I was okay. The fact that he couldn't do the same, was upsetting.
Good that anyone besides him checked on you. I'm still trying to figure out how you ended up with somebody so stupid though. Did he like continually bother you to date until ya said yes or what?
@errorgoodnameunfound the beginning of our relationship was great. But I think he told me what I wanted to hear because he was manipulative in that sense. No, when I returned his things I told him to never ever contact me again.
Figured. See, my ex went through similar. And I hear other girls go through the same. Manipulated, told what they want to hear, then slapped in the face. I really hope women will put a stop to this. They need to be united with each other and stop dating or giving any recognition to these guys. There must be a way to help them learn signs and not be naiive so this shit doesn't happen as much. Guys too need to put other guys in their place.
@errorgoodnameunfound and that's why I want to write a part two to the my take. My therapist has helped me realize more red flags and lies he told me. I still have my dating site profile open but I made it clear that boundaries are important and I won't do anything unless I feel comfortable. That right there has count on a large amount of guys matching with me that I really don't want to actually date.
Aha! The clue! The dating site! You are actively on a dating site dealing with a billion different guys from all over the place. Very hard to tell too, who is who. I can already predict that you chatted with him, and then he possibly asked you out or buy you a drink. And in doing this, he made you feel like you owe him for doing so. Is this correct? This may not be direct feelings/situation, but I think it's there somehow, some way. I knew a guy that also went on dating sites. VERY frustrated that he'd take girls out and pay for everything and not actually have either sex or continued dating. MANY guys feel this way. It's not exactly right, but it's the reality. Is a possible suggestion by the therapist to maybe start paying for your own meals/stuff when going out with guys? That helps a LOT believe me. I'd eliminate any guys who refuse this. They are likely just after something. Am I accurate with this at all?
LOL Athena blocked me by the way. Good. She was annoying af. She's gonna be real dissapointed when she wakes up to reality 10 years from now.
I care about men immensely. I hate the demonization of them. Men are great! They need to stop listening to rabid feminists and bitter men who only want them to be miserable.
Men are great. It is the culture they live in that is the problem.
thanks for your nice opinion.
@SomeOtherGuy I strongly believe in strength. People need to bee strong, regardless of culture. If you give into that culture, you're just ending up being part of the problem.
Do you also care about females "immensely" ? lol
If you look at the statistics, it's understandable why men acquiesce to this gynocentric culture. Strong men who buck the system go to prison or get murdered by police; no exceptions. Be honest... your choices are death, prison or submission. What would you do? 99,999 out of 100,000 will submit. Even a cursory examination of historical evidence proves that much.
@Deydey12345 Did you not see me stating that very thing?
It so happens to be, in my culture, that men are constantly spat on, and that makes me vehement in defending them. Don't mean I'm a woman hater, no matter if I have reason to be one.
@Chaz269 "Strong men who buck the system go to prison or get murdered by police." Is not related to strength of character if no context is given, and fails to stand up under scrutiny.
I can agree that our culture is gynocentric. But only so-far as we're reversing androcentric cultural norms and laws that have arisen and stripped women of autonomy.
Where it is problematic is that androcentric issues are beginning to need to be addressed as a result of that gynocentric culture, but are being ignored.
If you care about men so much, then you should care about ALL men enough to not not dismiss some as "bitter." By putting a broad group aside that you likely don't understand, you don't truly care about us. You said you "care about men," not "care about MOST men"! You said "Men are great" not "MOST men are great"! Say it straight! Say what you mean! Don't be a lying bitch! As much as feminists can be horribly fake, they at least bring some good points to the table. Women like you who dismiss your own fellow women as well as only care about certain men usually are gold diggers who just want to fuck us over! NO THANKS. I'm good being gay af thank you. If you are a golddigger/slut, two words: SEX BOTS! Be prepared! :D And don't get all condescending and insulting with me, as I know that's likely what you say feminists do, only showing your hypocrisy more! Also, I hate predictability. Really brings a conversation down ya know? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlb-HWpDDx0
@errorgoodnameunfound some men are bitter, some women are bitter. Just because I don't believe their very lives should be disregarded, doesn't mean I think they are reasonable people to listen to. There are fucked up people in this world, and lost people, and bitter people. I don't see how I'm a hypocrite by acknowledging the simple fact that some people shouldn't be listened to in the wake of a healthy mindset.
@errorgoodnameunfound and you sound like a pathetic troll, so nicely done. Ya got me.
"And don't get all condescending and insulting with me, as I know that's likely what you say feminists do, only showing your hypocrisy more!" <---- See this? This was me. In the past. Predicting the future. It's now the future! Low and behold, I GOT IT RIGHT! :D
Congrats! Predictability award of the year goes to... *drumroll* YOU!! Insults! Just as I guessed it, served fresh! Oh how I just love the predictability of people, especially on this site! I share the same opinions about women as the rapper Hopsin, as in the video I shared of him is one of my faves. Pretty sure he's more than just a stupid troll, given that he's 10x richer than both you and me, super successful and is regarded as one of the brightest, most underrated, lyric focused rappers out there. Learn to write/communicate efficiently! You only clarified the SECOND time, not the first. BIG mistake. Perhaps men are sometimes "bitter" because they are oh I don't know, realistic? Cynicism, skeptism, etc. It's REALITY.
@errorgoodnameunfound OK buddy, whatever you say. You're so reasonable and not rambling in the slightest.
You call it rambling cause you don't want listen to men like me or what we say, while at the same time, expecting us to listen to you. World doesn't work like that. Somebody needs to watch more Rick and Morty instead of The Bachelor perhaps?
"Nobody lives forever, nobody exists on purpose, we're all going to die." -Morty Sanchez
@errorgoodnameunfound ah yes. Rick and Morty is after all the hight of intelligence. How could I ever doubt your infinite wisdom, bitch?
Well, I wouldn't say The Bacholor or reality TV garbage like it is exactly the pinnacle of intelligence either. Actually I have facts to back up that reality TV I'm guessing you watch IS garbage for idiots and Rick and Morty is one of the most genius popular shows out there at the moment. I'd like to see your actual facts.
junkee.com/.../62141
www.joe.ie/.../how-rick-and-morty-became-the-smartest-show-on-tv-593341
www.highsnobiety.com/.../
the-artifice.com/the-genius-of-rick-and-morty/
www.psychologytoday.com/.../does-reality-tv-make-us-stupid
www.vulture.com/.../...worst-abc-reality-show.html
www.forbes.com/.../#9c2240242774
www.inverse.com/.../13603-psychology-tv-how-reality-programming-impacts-our-brains
aom.jku.at/.../...rson-can-make-you-act-stupid.pdf
Not to mention I actually go to a university and the professor specifically talks about how reality TV is the stupidest of the stupid, and these professors spend YEARS researching this stuff. What do you have on that?
@errorgoodnameunfound I don't watch TV, you can stop wasting your time accusing me of liking soap operas or heavily acted American reality TV shows. Why don't you to go venting to someone more appropriate, eh?
@errorgoodnameunfound @jellyroo how is this still going on?
First off, dude, learn some boundaries. She isn't engaged with you. Why are you hounding her aggressively and with a mentality of making her your enemy.
She isn't going to listen to you if you try dismiss and strawman her. Treating someone like shit just alienates them from your viewpoint. That's basic social interaction 101. Have you ever thought that if you want people to listen to your cause, you should first find common ground and ally yourself with them. Then ask them to listen to your viewpoint.
Also Rick and Morty is certainly not the pinnacle of intellect. That's like saying John Oliver is the pinnacle of journalism. It sets the bar extremely low for those categories. In the end, they're both just entertainment which take advantage of satire on modern culture and politics.
Also, if you think intelligence is the crux of success, you have not been observing society.
I can tell you right now some of the people in various seats of power across multiple industries are not intelligent people.
Regardless, stop trying to hound someone who is clear not receptive to your approach and respect the boundaries before you alienate someone completely from your view.
I get what you're saying, but man, do you have a way of saying it like a condescending asshole who feels entitled to share his viewpoint with people who do not want to hear it. You do nothing but hurt your cause trying to be the face of it.
Sorry for the harsh words, but maybe you need to hear them.
Depends on the individual, there are a lot of considerate women out there but also some cruel ones, it purely depends on which one you meet and this applies to both genders <3
Cheers ;)
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Most do, yes.
Look at downvotes
Given that the site skews toward single guys, I am not surprised that some people woud be upset with me saying that, but there are lots of women that do care about companionship.
You and few other users in your age group are the only sane people here.
@Schrodingerscat: Thanks, but I would have said that as a young adult, too.
I see your point.
Maybe it's our generation that's fucked up 🤷
@Schrodingerscat: I wonder if the male/female ratio is worse for your age cohort than it was for mine. Males outnumber females anyway in the early 20s, and I think that has some effects.
Interesting. I thought it was other way around in West? Or at least equal? I'm surprised to know that actually
@Schrodingerscat: It's nowhere near as skewed as in India and China, but there are more males than females throughout the childbearing years, plus for the most part the cohorts at the younger age groups are smaller than they were decades ago.
Ha ha ha, you're good, you're good.
Thanks for the MHO
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If people would stop looking to the internet and just learn from experience. We would never need topics like this one. We are all humans living in this world FILLED with hate , violence , fear , and even more questions then we have answers. We are always questioning and asking for answers for questions that we know the answer to , if we look. All we need to do is live and find a partner for that life , The rest can not written down. Each couple have there own set of rules they live by each have there own. Pace some women. Cook , Clean , do house work , and care for there husband and love it. Then they look at the internet or ask there neighbor how they treat there husband. And it could be the other way around , SO each have there own and with in that couples home , Is peace Until Other start to talk and judge them for there actions. simply cause its different the what "there" doing. Life for what you want and live how you want , don't be reckless and loveless just cause you believe in something that's not "right " in this world today. don't let people change your views.
Average women walking down the street aren’t after dudes for money. You should only refer to gold diggers specifically. There may be a lot of them but they don’t represent women as a whole. Most of the human population want sex. It’s biological. So that part is irrelevant as well.
There are plenty of ladies who don’t give a shit about men or their feelings and then there are plenty of ladies who are the exact opposite.
... and the War between the Sexes continues to heat up. Traditional points of common grounds are falling apart as diplomatic efforts are failing, even the bonds of the desire for sex. I can see clear battle lines forming between men and women an its only a matter of time between its apparent to everyone it has been declared, get ready everyone
in the west that will happen but not here
Iraq
I'm caring in general, to men and women, but yes I do care a lot about my man. I am never only about sex and money, and speaking of money, I am a firm believer in the abstract things which a millionaire cannot buy for me: love, affection, care, encouragement, emotional support, partnership, companionship, passion, happiness, and many more, and I reciprocate the same (Although I do feel happy buying or giving things to my boyfriend that sometimes I feel like there's something wrong with me for deriving happiness when I give, regardless of whether it's reciprocated or not, as long as he doesn't hurt me)
Uh, it’s false to say that men never care. More like if a guy is truly in love he’ll care. And if he’s not he won’t. Most guys only want sex when they are younger.
Women (of my generation and older at least) tend to feel the world should revolve around them more than the guy. Different women more/less so. Guys learn that nobody really cares about their feelings. Ideas about men being strong/supportive is basically code for: ‘your feelings don’t matter’. It is what it is. Fighting it won’t change anything. Just learn how to get what you want in life without dwelling on how unfair life is. Women have it rough too but in other ways.
I think we've gone into some weird loop here. Someone posts a "do women even care about men?" question, so someone else posts a "do men even care about women?" question in response, and then someone else again posts a "do women even care about men?" question in response to THAT, and then...
i mentioned that
And
What the fuck is your problem
I wouldn't depend on my boyfriend for money, but it would bother me if he couldn't match me, say if I wanted to go on holiday, but he wasn't capable of saving up enough to come with me. And if his penis was to fall off, my concern would be whether or not he'd still want children, as that's essential to me, even if it means adopting/fostering. I want him more than I want sex. So to answer your question: Yes. At least one woman genuinely cares about her man.
i will be lucky to have a good wife like you near future.
This whole thing about women wanting men’s money is SO backwards! Seems to be fuelled by those who’ve chosen to date gold diggers! Seriously most women don’t care, so long as you can live comfortably within your means! What matters to women is your ambition and drive to achieve! It signals a great team player! You need that for a happy family!
It's very unlikely that a woman cares for men who aren't related to her.
I think though it's just because of the toxic traditional dating style.
If a woman is seen to care for a man then people assume she has feelings for him. This is often not true a woman can care about the well beings of men without being in love with them.
In response to this women have to make it seem that they care only about their loved ones.
However there are a lot of man hating women and women who couldn't care less about us guys.
In my opinion we need men and I feel they are an important part of this world. I also think it's ok for men and women to depend on each other instead of competing to see who's the better gender. We would be a better would working as a team. That's how I live my life. Even single people depend on others whether it's the mechanic that fixes their car or the boss that gives them a job. We all depend on each other to get through life and people need to just accept it.
"competing to see who's the better gender".
90s are over. Now the competition is "which gender has it worse".
Yes, I guess you're right. Both seem to cry way to much about how unfair everything is. But we need to go back to the attitude we had in the 80's and 90's.
#teamgenders
Hmm. If you mean MY man specifically? Yes. His health and happiness are just as important to me as my own.
I care about the wellbeing of my father and brother too, and my (few) male friends.
Other men? I mean I dont wish harm on anyone obviously and I feel bad hearing sad stories of strangers, but if I dont know him personally why would I be invested in a mans life?
You wouldn't, would you? Unless maybe the law demanded it? In Michigan, my home state, there is a law requiring men to risk life and livelihood for any and every woman at risk of injury or death. For example: I'm walking down the street and see 3 men with guns attacking a lone woman. If I don't intervene, and someone else can testify to the fact, I go to prison. It doesn't matter that I would likely also be beaten and/or shot to death, leaving my family without my income and support. It only matters that a woman was at risk, and I was unwilling to play the hero for a complete stranger. At least 33 states have similar laws, but NONE require women to sacrifice themselves, least of all for a man in danger.
Real talk, Google that shit.
I think most people would agree with that, at least to an extent. I don't care about people I don't know and whose existence won't affect me. I won't WANT terrible things to happen to them, but I'm not gonna cry if it does or rush to help them.
@Chaz269 Wait wait wait. I think people are misunderstanding what I am saying. Probably because some men out there want to misunderstand to push their own agenda - but regardless. I already said I dont want harm for anyone. I meant in personal life choices. Like the mans choices in his life are his own who am I to judge or care what he does for himself. If a man wants to drink his life away or gamble all his money and I dont know him - those are his choices. I think stupid choices, but who am I to tell him how to live. If it was a man dear to me, I would push harder to convince him otherwise.
And honestly- thats a weird law. I think its extreme, unnecessary, and sexist.
Well, I have an agenda, but I'm not pushing it on anyone.
Having read your entire opinion, one particular line stood out to me: "... if I don't know him personally why would I be invested in a mans life?"
Because ours is a society supposedly striving for equality. If 2/3 of US states require by law that men are invested in the lives and livelihoods of women we don't know, then 2/3 of women SHOULD behave likewise, right? Otherwise, the feminists who claim to want nothing but pure, unadulterated equality would oppose such laws, right?
I understand your point now that you've clarified. It was incumbent upon me to respond because I'm certain most people, men and women alike, could relate to your opinion. But most men aren't permitted the freedom of such opinions without the responsibilities of being a man that aren't expected of women anywhere in western society. It's about time people, feminists in particular, get real about what equality really means.
@Chaz269 Well, Im sorta glad I said things the way I did because I didn't know of that law. I see your point.
Wow man your question has so many views :). I think unless it's your mom most women won't care about you. It also goes both ways most men don't care about most women. Not that we don't want to, but it's hard to care about someone you don't know, hardly know, or you don't have a close connection with. Most people only care about their wife/husband, gf/bf and maybe a few friends and family.
lol bro even my mom doesn't care about me
Nope. If they cared they would fight for men as men fight for them, instead they just blame men for everything, claim that we are all evil and immoral and have oppressed them by taking on all the hardships they couldn't, by sacrificing our lives for them etc. Why else would almost every bad thing in the world be dominated with male victims while women talk about how they are the ones who are victims?
I think there is still a good amount of women that do fight for their men and know how important you guys are to our world.
@PinkMichae I rarely see that, I do however see them throwing men under the bus as frequently as possible. I would like to be wrong, but I don't think I am. Seventy years of non stop indoctrination and propaganda has taken its toll, on men, on women, and how they view each other.
It’s only when a woman has been ran over too many times that she starts to only care about money and sex.. before then we genuinely love with all we have! At least I do.
so the ones who hate men has once loved men?
Off course we do as much as men care about women. Sex and money are irrespective off caring about people in general. That's not to say every one cares about everyone but I just don't think you can generalise about whither people care about each other.
A lot of people don’t care in general about others it’s not as if everyone cares about you just bc you share the same chromosomes. I care about people I know this is true bc I’ve made a lot of bad decisions for myself bc I worried about hurting others. Women and men. Those people did not have the same concern so it made being thoughtful almost negative. But I still care. I’m just more economical about it.
@Tomblebee
Haha truth 😊
I am a man. I am going to say no and I voted no. Most women in the West hate men because they're taught to hate men and they also learn it because they go for guys that are scum like bad boys and players because Hollywood and the media tells them to go for those guys. I'm not going to say any more on the topic because I could write an essay or a rant on the topic but I won't.
Dude, I feel your pain, trust me. But be careful saying this. You'll just be talked down to condescendingly, called a sexist loser and worst of all, that stupid "nice" guy paradox. I could write an essay too, believe me. I have been slowly more skeptic of women as a whole over time. I have a strong feeling you are super anti feminist cause of this. Wouldn't surprise me. As I said before, feminists have few male allies remaining if any at all. Any ally is too quickly dismissed as fake. Many of them even date/sleep around with guys that are obviously stupid and likely to abuse. Many guys would actually be feminists themselves if they didn't do this. It's like they are drowning but slapping away the hand trying to rescue them and instead swimming around sharks. Then complaining when the sharks bite them. I have a feeling you're cheering for what I said. I know many guys out there would be. This is a bit anti PC, but oh the fuck well. BROS BEFORE HOES!
@errorgoodnameunfound I am super anti-feminist. I don't ever plan on dating in America or the West. When I'm ready and able, I'm going to Eastern Europe to find myself a girl around age 18 and tradition for dating and a relationship. I think most women in the West just have sex with bad boys, party, work, and focus on a career and then when they want to settle down they give up the bad boy for awhile to marry some simp or cuck, then use him as a babydaddy when they're in their 30s and he's 30 or 40, and then divorce him for child support and probably half his assets, then go back to dating bad boys. Bonus if they can also get alimony. Most guys in the West who aren't bad boys or scum see the bad deal and drop out. They also group good guys and respectable guys in with nice guys, and besides, the term nice guy didn't even exist until maybe the 60s or 70s? Why are women the unhappiest they have ever been in the West? It's because they have become unfeminine and have no self-respect.
I can totally relate to the frustration. Any guy can. But ya gotta realize the whole woman as a servant thing you may find in other countries isn't exactly too fun either. That can also lead to golddigging easily too. If you want women for sex, you can do it on your own with much less money spent. Why risk the stress? If you want somebody to stuff for you, family blah blah, it's better to learn to do it on your own. Or hire help. Hell, you could always have fun alone and have a male partner. You don't have to have gay sex just to be with each other. You can do your own stuff individually, but at least have a companion. Then adopt to start a family. Aren't these options better than risking getting fucked over by a golddigger in another country?
@errorgoodnameunfound No, the options you gave are not good options. I wouldn't ever pay a prostitute or escort for sex. I am not gay. I cannot have sex or form emotional and physical connection with a male. There are many girls that are not golddiggers in foreign countries. The best way to avoid golddiggers is to move to the girl's country or another country where incomes aren't as high as America. The golddigger myth is a way to scare guys from getting higher quality girls. Young, thin, good looking, wanting a family, possibly a virgin, and much more honest with less demands.
Your very much correct on what feminism has generally done to western women. Everything men and women are *MEANT TO BE* has been subverted/inverted. Destroyed.
That's the answer in itself as to why depression among women (and men) is so high now.
But I also think the tiresome and troublesome state of women has been exacerbated by the weakness and inactivity of western men. Generally speaking were a bunch of filthy cucks who've grown bigger axe wounds than women...
When I met my husband he had nothing. A decade later I'm still
With him. Not with him for sex or money. I love his heart & who he is as a person.
Are you sure many women care that much in regard to sex with most men? only 20% of men get regular sex from women, and it's just different. Women are not as lust crazy or feel the need to get laid or around men and seem to rather not care like at bars if men are around or gyms. Whereas, women are the reason bars have women not have to pay as they know men will show up just because women are there
No. They only care about what they can get from us. They don't care if any man lives or does, even those they *claim* to love. The only reason a woman cares if a man dies is if she's going to benefit from it, or she's going to lose her provider. Even that is a temporary setback, she'll find a new one as soon as she can.
I figure misandrists are born from not having any positive male role models in their lives just like misogynists are born from not having any positive female role models in theirs. Most men & women care for each other, we’d all benefit from unplugging the TV & experiencing real interactions instead of the crafted propaganda blasted at us by the few corporations that run the media & want us to vote for their pet interests
I can't even imagine a life without men.
They are a blessing of God, one of his greatest creations and I love them for that reason..
So yes, I do care :D
@Tomblebee true. They are a important part of society just as much as women are :)
lol no!!!
Just look at all the stats about men and boys. Men and boys are failing and suffering in nearly every metric that can be measured and most of it is for the benefit of women at the cost of men.
The only time women care about men is when the suffering of a man directly hurts them.
Definitely truth in this. Look up (((who))) has instigated the gender war though. Women are being masculinised and men are being emasculated.
Economically (school, jobs etc) and literally. Manliness is being demonised so much that men many males end up becoming cucks.
When I love someone, of course you will taking good care of him. Compatible on bed is important, but then outside the bed also important. Taking care as in make sure his meals, doing chores for him also important. I dont really cook, but he likes Asian food, so I am willing to learn how to make some. Thats how I show him that I care.
*of course I will taking good care of him.
So I'm guessing virgins shod never be able to date because they will be bad in bed. So once a virgin always a virgin?
@Armourdillo says who? I said outside the bed also important (e. g taking care of his meals etc). Please read carefully.
How could you ever be sexually compatible with someine who never had sex?
@Armourdillo you will find out later on when you finally decided you want to have sex with the person.
I have decided, and some of the girls I was interested told me they don't like. virgins
@Armourdillo oh? you are a virgin. dont worry, the right girl will like you the way you are
If women truly cared about men then they would get off their collective asses and go to the lawmakers to change this.
There are plenty of horrible women out there who only use men as a way to get money... just like there are horrible men out there that use women for sex. But I know plenty of women including myself who care very deeply for the men in our lives.
I value men in my life, and in the world in general, though I can become very angry with certain men. I want men's lives to be ok, fair, livable - same things I want for women.
I know there are women who do not feel the same as I do.
I do care about people I do know and which are close to me. I do not care much about strangers, no matter if male or female.
Great to know! If I ever encounter you drowning in a lake, I'll be sure not to call 911. As will many. Thanks for the reminder!
@errorgoodnameunfound Thats now what I meant. Of course I'd help in an emergency. I just do not run around and ask everyone how his/her day was etc...
sometimes a stranger may become your loved ones.
But usually you get to know them beforehand, don't you? Do you geniunely care about every single stranger out there? Do you start to cry if you hear that their aunt is sick?
Well, consider this. If we are talking humans, we are ALL technically related. We are ALL technically family. Nobody can deny this, as biologically, we are too similar to each other to deny it. Trace up the line, and eventually, we likely come from only two organisms. This is talking billions of years back, but no denying this. I'm not talking Adam and Eve fantasy either. I'm talking realism. Every family tree starts with two. That means this aunt you speak of, is in fact family. Just extremely distant. Though, by possibility, she may not be all that distant as you may think. And with that, I bet you have plenty of your own issues. I can't imagine the day you start a GoFundMe account for whatever reason and it fails miserably. Cause why should anyone care about strangers unless super emergencies? Honestly, why are even on here? Why should anyone care about your opinion? According to your theory, ignoring you as if you don't exist is the best. And yes, I do care about all humanity.
To a degree yes. I mean, I don't care about you in particular. Unless you're drowning, I want absolutely nothing to do with you. Ever. Even if that means we're part of the five last people on Earth, I'd just ignore you and work with the other three, as I'd only apply your theory to you. Likely, the other people would too eventually. Meaning you'd likely die somewhere, after being abandoned, but we wouldn't see it or hear about it. So it wouldn't matter and we wouldn't be guilty of it. It'd be your own fault for having that theory you couldn't apply to both strangers and yourself. Now, given this, you likely don't mean 100% what you said and had implied meanings. But perhaps, communicate/write that a bit better next time? That, or, insult/become condescending like most people I question on here. Your pick.
@errorgoodnameunfound funny how you're basically seeing me here is a impersonalisation of devil while most guys answered about the same on the question about men caring about women and no one bates an eye
Do men care about women at all? ↗
And now tell me one thing. Would you spend almost your whole income to help children (or just men/women for that matter) in Africa? Would you get out of your own comfort zone and stand up for the rights of minorities? Do you cry every time when you hear of a plane crash because you cared for every single passenger on there? Or will you just admit that you're a little bit hypocritical there?
Because lets face it. If we would really care about every single person on this world we wouldn't have a life of our own anymore. And again, I am not talking about emergencies. I do also give money to beggars whenever I do have some spare. It doesn't mean that I care for them like for my partner or family member.
@errorgoodnameunfound and yes, I also do not expect every single person on this world to specifically care about my wellbeing. I just do not see myself as important enough for that. Obiously, you think way higher of yourself.
That's impossible that I think of myself as higher, as I put the world as a whole above just myself. I see the world as a giant family. This isn't gender issue so don't pull on that. I specifically said people, not women for a reason. I really would advise on thinking about such short opinions to post in the future as it likely will rub people the wrong way, and you'll face way worst criticizers than me about it. You did in fact possibly contradict yourself. I was waiting to see if it happened and it did. "Giving to beggers" That is not necessarily an emergency. That begger could also be fake. Could be a terrible person. Not be a begger at all. Suddenly, it wouldn't be an emergency. BOOM. Possible contradiction. But don't get me wrong, I'm glad I got you to contradict yourself. Understand that there are literally people out there driven by Ayn Rand egoism. And they, while often horrible people, are VERY hard to debate. It's a reason I was harsh in case you were one.
You sounded a LOT like on of those Ayn Rand/Atlas Shrugged Libertarian type fans. They are basically anarchists. Or they often act like it. And they say things exactly like you did. Not caring about anyone much except for people close to them. The importance of the self is placed before anyone for them. But to argue against them requires a very harsh serious tone, as they are known to be some of the most condescending, combative brats out there. VERY hard to talk to. You aren't one of them, and I'm grateful for it. To address your claim of my hypocrisy, here's my thing. I'm a minimalist. I do what I can right now to get by in hopes of one day being a lot wealthier not to buy luxury goods, but to stabilize myself and to help my family, friends, people I am in debt to. I am happy living life in a simple one bedroom apartment and taking the bus or train anywhere. I must keep my money until my life is over so i can live it fully and physically/psychologically help whoever possible. (con'd)
@errorgoodnameunfound Funny how you didn't referred to any of the questions I asked you. And I just pointed out the beggar to hopefully make you realize how I define caring for somebody. Not in the "not letting them die" way, also not in the "not being a complete jerk" way. Caring for someone means for me to actually be concerned about this specific persons wellbeing and doing your best to assure it whenever needed. This alone would require to at least know about this persons existince.
It maybe a misunderstanding from my side since I'm not a native English speaker. But well, you'll most likely try to turn my words around as you like anyway.
" to help my family, friends, people I am in debt to." ... Oh, so you do not want to actually help every single person out there? Big surprise. Guess what? I do want exactly the same. To be there for the people in my life.
I keep spare money until I almost die in order to be prepared for emergencies, not because of greed. If I get REALLY crazy amounts of money, then yah, I'd likely invest it into good causes, likely a huge one to be education. Any wealth I have must be distributed on the utilitarian principle to help the most amount of people possible in a given time frame. I rely on that principle for everything. At my current moment, I am powerless to do much to help people out. I can only do what I am able to. The donating will be when I am ready. Protesting can only be so effective. I VOTE. I'm the type that can regard a stranger over Facebook as more of a friend than anyone in the place I live in a matter of minutes. I openly accept that. However, there's another side to me too. I trust NOBODY fully. Not family, not friends, not even if I have a husband or wife. Nope. Won't happen. TRUST is different than care. Do I try to care for all? Yes. Do I trust anyone fully? NO.
And have good reason I believe. I want the most amount of people's wellbeing possible. But I know full well I can work VERY hard to do good things for people for YEARS, and then live the rest of my live broke, homeless, full of pain, misery, and isolation with those same people not giving a single shit about me, laughing as they walk away with whatever I did for them. If it happens, so be it. I can't stop fate. If I do what I can to utilize utilitarian principle and suffer anyways, even after death, oh well. I did my part. I tried. But hey, at least I was right a just god doesn't exist. That's the one good feeling that can remain. Oh, and did I mention I want my body donated to science and that I feel funerals are stupid waste and a money eater? If everyone donated their bodies after death, thousands would be saved and same with if people adopted, rather than have sex and say "they want a child of their own" as an excuse for it. Ya want sex so bad? Touch yourself. Problem solved.
@errorgoodnameunfound and what exactly does voting have to do with caring for someone? Or how exactly you build an emotional bond to someone else? And also, where exactly did I claimed that I would live in absolute luxury and bath in milk and honey every day?
And yea, this trusting part is probably a big difference among us since I tend to trust people quite easily, at least once I get to know them better and start to see them as "trustworhty" (or distant myself from them if I don't). I'd imagine life to be quite sad if you cannot trust anyone...
I do feel the same about funerals by the way, especially since I'm an atheist. I am also a signed organ donor. And? Does this surprise you? Do you still see me as the devil?
Nope. Doesn't surprise me. You changed my mind. And I'm happy for it. I'm glad I pressed to see what you really meant and there's one less Libertarian to worry about. Signed organ donor too. I did go quite off topic, but i feel I tied it back quite well. Voting, in the US, actually makes the real difference. It's only because the majority don't vote because they think the majority doesn't vote that it does little. I'm doing my part as a citizen. Though I do wonder how you keep distance of caring for strangers, but trust easily. I think this can lead to really bad things later. I learned the hard way. Save yourself. And I did answer your questions indirectly. No, I can not help every single person at this moment, but utilitarian principle I believe in at any moment. Definition: "An ethical philosophy in which the happiness of the greatest number of people in the society is considered the greatest good." While I can't help all, I help as many possible.
No they don’t 😂.
They’re completely evil these girls they will do and say anything to get their way or into your trust circle after that comes manipulation.
I have never met a decent girl in the 23 years of my life and Yh that’s not 50+ but you get to know a fee hundred by now and if i’m say none of them are decent well does that paint you a picture?
You can tell they’re lying as well look at the stats 564 girls said yes they would it helps then lie.
Now look at the guys opinions 138 said yes 123 said no that’s very close assuming the 138 are virgins who don’t know what real girls are like. It shows you all the guys who have experienced what these women are really like and roughly 50% to 50% would be the amount of guys who have and haven’t had a girl.
Not anymore. A person can only be hurt so many times before they stop giving a fuck. I don't even want a guy's money or sex... I've got my own money & a vibrator. I'd rather live stress free.
I dated men with money and one I am currently talking too has money but I do my best to make an effort to pay or try to pay for things. He doesn't like it when I do. To me it's the character/ personality that gets my attention.
I care about men the same way I care about any human being.
I can't speak for others but personally I've always taken care of myself money wise that is. I only need a man to be honest, love me, and just be there as a companion.
So wonder woman where can I find you 😏🤔🤨😆😆😆😆?
Stick with that and a guy will come, no worries. Unless the guys around you are pure stupid, they could never pass that up. That's a HUGE complaint MILLIONS of guys have is women fucking them over for money ya know, so eliminating that risk is a big plus.
@geminiboner Bro nooo back off she's mine. Finding somebody as rare as her is like finding a decent used cars dealership. You think you got dibs? Nooooo... then again... you'll likely win since she just got compared to used cars. Oops. Welp, back to pornhub. I tried. Maybe next time. xD
She probably not in America the fuck do I care?
It was your fault silly used car 😆😆😆
@geminiboner Uh... 1... it was a joke... 2... she is. Yah... calm your tiny package. Take a deep breathe. It's ok. It's a joke. BREATHE.
🤨 I'm fine you're boring go back to the hub 😁
@geminiboner Eh, boring people don't get jokes. Fun people do. Fun people make them, or at least attempt to. Who am I in this? ;P I can't believe we're fighting over a freaky hobo though. What's wrong with us?
@geminiboner Aw geez. The hub broke down. I'm baaaack! Still waiting for Brazzers to load. Whatup?
@geminiboner Just so you guys know I am in America. @errorgoodnameunfound I got your joke, and it was kinda funny. Also what's wrong with my username?
1. 'MURICA! 2. Only kinda funny? OK HOBO GIRL! xD 3. Nothing. But according to your username, we are in fact fighting over a freaky hobo. Hobos are beautiful too. Hell, I think the hub has a fetish section for them. Or maybe Xnxx? I don't know. OH! I think it's called the "HOE"Bo section lolz
I absolutely care for the man I’m with when I’m with one! Hell I care about them even beyond that. Money is of no consequence! Sex, although important and needed, is not a love and care indicator.
From what it seems. I think they care about money and sex more
How many women are ok with their men staying home while she works. And then ask how many men are ok with their wives staying home while he works
Women past 30 will see wealth and sex more. Women under 30 it will be experiences and looks more
I started loving (& continued loving) my boyfriend even when i had more money than him. I bought him meals when he needed them, and vice-versa. We both run into separate financial tough-spots so we both still love and take care of each other even when we're facing money issues.
Sex? That's a bonus for us, baby ;)
I care about my man. I always make sure he's well taken care of by me because he does the same for me. I earn way more money than him so I obviously don't care about the money so sex maybe, lmao.
I’m gonna post what I did there. A lot of women do care about guys. Some can be rude, but I don’t think we can generalize 3.5 billion people as all not caring about men. It depends on the individual.
Most women only care about what men can and will do for them. There is a small number of real women who truly respect and appreciate men. If you've lost faith, search "Honey Badger Brigade" and prepare to eat your heart out.
I looked them up. Interesting indeed. I saw the name and thought they perhaps had to do with Steve Bannon... eh... not exactly a fan of him. But decided to give them a chance. They seem very middle ground on things from what I hear. Thanks for the suggestion! I had my own issues with women before and ya, I guess I am a bit sick of it. Hell, I've only been more and more likely to have a male spouse every day. I can't wait until sex robots gain steam in popularity, for both men and women, so that means women and men dealing with prostitution better start preparing for other careers that are more contributing to society. The issue is dealing with the vast homelessness that will arise but I hope many smart ones will have already saved up to peruse another career anyways. My real delight will be seeing golddiggers basically drop dead as more men will realize the money and stress saved with robots! FINALLY those golddigging asshats will get what they deserve!
Depends on the woman , a significant number do regard men as sex crazed moronic vermin , mainly due to feminist misandrist propaganda. Overall women care far more for other women , than for men , there is a much stronger female own gender solidarity , than males have.
" money and sex? " ... money... yes , in some cases ... sex... NO !! Sex is NOT really a female desire , the vast majority of women are happy totally celibate.
It depends on woman. I don’t care much about money. Other stuff that other people thinks. Go a girl or guy that you have in common.
I always watch one torment on gaming. I just prefer to play it then to watch it. by the way have heard a lot of it.
The look for...
LOOKS
MONEY
CONFIDENCE
Everything else is pretty much not important. Oh, maybe a big dick if they watch porn. LOL
On update...
You need to understand that this new crop of feminist young women have been coached since day one. From the time they could talk they have been told how special they are, how pretty, and how much better than, more deserving than, and superior than, any boy. And they are fed this completely unrealistic notion that they DESERVE whatever they want, and DESERVE to be happy. That some prince charming is going to swoop in and sweep them off their feet. Even disney gets in on this shtick.
So we have this whole crop of girls that think boys are second class citizens, they are told by the FI that they 'don't need no stinkin' men' and that they can have complete happiness and success in life with a man. Even raise a family!! They can even BE a man if they want!!
It's completely unrealistic and so far from reality that they are not well connected to anything close to reality. Unrealistic expectations, failed relationships, they don't know how to nor want to talk to men...-->cont
... they've been told they live in a 'rape culture' and that ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS.
No one DESERVES anything. You get what you get for the effort and work you put in. You get to create your own life, YOUR reality. But these girls are not really able to do that, so we have all these self- diagnosed mental illnesses, depression, bipolar disorder, you name it. I call it the land of puppy dogs, rainbows, and pink unicorns.
Some 40% of women over forty are on some kind of anti-depressants.
So no, they don't care about men cuz they cannot even function normally themselves.
yea i think men themselves should put an end to this there , or there won't be good future generations , and it will make your country to be easier to be invaded if both genders hate each other there
women only need men for the hard work. other than that women don't need men.
Women hate building and they hate fighting. Why not get a man to do that for them while they can put on layers of make up.
women don't care for men. and now since feminism is growing women don't give a fuck about men.
I care about some men. I have 4 brothers and some really great guy friends.
I'm not a man hater like some women
Yeah they care but if you're not making enough money and you're barely making ends meet they will walk in a heartbeat
That's a bit of a stereotypical view.
How would that prove anything other than divulging into people's income?
That's bs I saw my ex through a recession and bankruptcy in the early years of our relationship, you really can't tarnish all women with the same brush.
s @Midnight_Kiss that's because you were already together and you're in deep with him so you had to my try to stick it out but how come he's your ex now?
I wasn't in that deep with him it was only three months in to the relationship and he's my ex because during the 8.5year we were together he left three times to get with other women and the last time was his final chance and therefore I told him not to bother coming back and even though I've been single since it's the best move I could have possibly made
s You say you're only together for 3 months then what do you call 8.5 years? You still knew him that long that's a long time and
no wonder you gave it your best shot. I'm talking about getting into new relationships girls finding out that you're broke then they walk not after they're in love with you. Some might walk anyway even if they are in love with you knowing that you hit rock bottom
You misunderstand, we had only known each other three months when the recession hit (so way too soon for love to be brought into it) but overall we were together eight and a half years.
I don't really get pleasure from sex at all, and I don't really feel comfortable with the money thing. I offer to pay, but they won't let me x-x. If they ever ask for money I'll give it. I just don't want it to be seen as something else.
I see man as a person not as a sexual object with money.
Absolutely! As long as they’re not bad men lol. Men are nice to have around.
The moment we care about men, we becone their mothers. Both men and women should care about themselves first and share it together.
As long as women think they can extract something ($) out of men they care about them. As soon as men are needed to protect them, they are expendable. And when men have no value to women anymore they preach rights/privilege and seek to eliminate men.
Women, children and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provides something. - Chris Rock
We care about our fathers and brothers and cousins and friends and why the hell not?
So only family and not partners?
@Armourdillo Partners was what the why the hell not part was for..
I mean what does to care even mean, to what extent would caring influence ones actions?
They'll care about your looks, what you do around them, what you do for them, but they won't care about you and try to put yourself in your place unless they don't want to lose you because you have proven yourself to be valuable enough.
I meant: put themselves in your place
I can't speak for all girls, some people don't care about anyone.
But I truly care for my boys.
am i one of your boys xD? haha
I care about all people unless then give me some reason not to. Men who I like romantically will get the best care I can give, sex or not.
Its usually experiences and other things such as a way we, someone we know or care about be treated a certain way that sometimes guides our decisions in the future. Or sometimes were just not in the mood
Ironically a girl asked the exact same question, except it was do guys even care about women 😁
yes i mentioned it
Oh lol, nevermind!
Is this even a question. Anyone who is a decent human do. They are fellow human beings.
I personally don’t care about money or sex (can’t say the same for others). I as well as many other women just want love and affection.
i think your opinion is nice , i dont know why you have dislikes
Unfortunately, it's likely cause some men think all women lie if they say this. Some men have really been hurt by women or how society has treated the genders, and they take out their anger on ALL women.
I think some women think men just don’t have any emotions, so women don’t care when they hurt men. Which is sad and I don’t want to be associated with those kind of people
Women should care more about men's rights and sexism towards men as well
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