Why do guys complain that girls are drama queens and gold diggers, but when they meet girls who aren't, they don't give beauty points?

[Bethany22]

Or if I'm wrong, then how many beauty points does a calm trusting holistic girl get?

[Anonymous]

lol what in the world is beauty points? This isn’t a pageant. Either he finds you attractive or he doesn’t. The closest thing I can think of to beauty points as you call it, would be a rating scale of 0-10 as far as what we’d rate a girl. Other than that I don’t give her one point because she has a cute face but her nails are ugly so I minus 1.

[fonduegirl]

That's what she said, I think

Why do guy treat those girls better?

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 please clarify for me what you mean? Maybe I’m overthinking what you’re saying.

[fonduegirl]

That men want those type of women. You know, the influencer type. The one that wants you to plan an expensive date. The one that takes 4hrs to do her hair, with the 11 step skincare routine.

Men can't get them and that's why they settle for average

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 a lot of us can get them, we just choose not to in some cases. Yes some of us can’t get them too. But for someone like myself I prefer a girl who’s just cute w out all the makeup. A girl who can just throw on some jeans, a shirt and baseball hat w tennis shoes then we’re out the door.

[fonduegirl]

I find that hard to believe

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 why is that hard to believe?

[fonduegirl]

There are times genders lies to each other to make themselves feel more emphatic.

It's one of those times.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@anon1903 Well... I can second this

[fonduegirl]

@CalmUntilAbused I'm still not convinced

[fonduegirl]

@CalmUntilAbused mainly coz I know how women work. Have you watched What's Your Number? The opening scene was insightful

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 I don’t need to lie to you. For what? I’m not trying to get w you or something. As a matter of fact I give a lot of opinions that women don’t like because I give an honest answer. This is what I like. This is the type of girl I’ve been w for 15 years. I’m not speaking for all men.

[fonduegirl]

That's right. You don't need to lie to me.

Even so, you want to sound accepting to others and yourself. You want to seem nobel, cool, a low maintenance guy who really just wants somebody compatible.

Shrugs

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 o don’t need to be accepted by no one. I spent 10 years in the military, overseas getting shot at. Don’t think I honestly care about being accepted or liked by a complete stranger. No. You asked, I gave an answer. This is a part of the reason men don’t talk because when we give you a genuine, legitimate answer you say no that’s not the truth. Because it doesn’t fit your narrative of what the answer should be. What was the point of asking me a follow up question of you were just going to reject my answer if it wasn’t what you wanted to hear?

[fonduegirl]

Women do that too.

It's called wanting to look good for yourself.

It's not even a gender thing.

[Opinion Owner]

@anon1903 I understand that. I’m not trying to do what you think I am. It’s an honest answer as far as what I’ve always been into. Yes men will go for those types of women a lot of times simply because they want to fuck them. Not all, but some do. I don’t need to seem noble, or accepted. I’m just being polite. If you don’t think my answer is genuine than that’s on you. I will still sleep just as good today as I did yesterday as much as you’d like to think I need to be accepted by you. Rather than women asking questions about why men think this way women thrash men. Maybe you would learn more about men if you just asked why rather than talking a lot of nonsense. But like most women in society you don’t care about men’s feelings, just your own. No this isn’t about me crying either that you’re not listening to my feelings. It’s about me saying there’s men out there who want to be heard, listened to by women who would love to talk but can’t because of responses like this.

[fonduegirl]

Okay

[OlderAndWiser]

I started dating a girl in December 2020 who is not a drama queen or a gold digger. She is also not a beauty queen; she was 57 years old at that time. But she scored a ton of points for being kind, gentle, loyal, dependable, and trustworthy. She scored so many points that I proposed to her and we got married in April this year.

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[DishLady]

DING DING DING! That's the million dollar question, isn't it?

A guy has standards on which he values himself.

• Some have strong moral codes, some have remarkable work ethic... you know... each guy has his thing...
• But then there are guys who don't know their value and maintain SUPER LOW self esteem, in which case they look at their finances, big titles and assets, for example, as the main source of appeal for a woman... Those guys also then tend to go for the wrong woman. There are millions of examples of this.

"Beauty Points"? It's not a soccer game... If it was, we'd need a good ref for every relationship. (Hmm... that might be a good idea...) Anyway, While guys may not always say it, they DO give beauty points... It's called paying attention to you.

• Girls who put a bit of time into looking and being their best get the beauty points (beauty = good looks and hygiene, good character and humor, good head on her shoulders, etc.).
• Girls who neglect themselves don't get the beauty points bc they have poor sense of self, poor character, and poor logical capacities.
• Girls who are parsimonious and always thinking they're too good for anyone... end up with no one.

[handsomelad70]

Same for guys.

[DishLady]

@handsomelad70 True (I was married to a male gold digger), but I gave him beauty points, lol.

[SpeedAnswerDemon]

nice ding, but I'd prefer a "gong"

[DishLady]

@SpeedAnswerDemon Right? Mine was in the shop. Sorry!

[CalmUntilAbused]

Beauty points? Is that some new cryptocurrency that I'm not yet aware of?

If we're talking about the "x/10 scale", I'd say a "calm, trusting, holistic" girl is only "loyal" far from an instant 7/10 or even 8/10 (assuming that she's got some serious skin defects or that she suffers from severe "body-positiveness", which results in 0/10 score regarding physical attractiveness, otherwise she's only "loyal" far from a guaranteed 10/10). Which also means that if a girl does not possess any of those four traits, she can scrape a maximum of 3/10 on the "informed x/10 scale", so to say.

Now, a score of even 10/10 on the "informed x/10 scale" does not mean I'd instantly attempt to make out with a girl. Quite the opposite, since I respect her a lot, I'd wish to get to know her better and enter a stable long-term relationship with her instead of hoping to simply "score" with her. So... Assuming You are a "calm, trusting, holistic" girl, You should probably learn some self-respect and the value of stable long-term relationships instead of wishing for some instant making out (which I assume would be the reason behind Your assumption that "calm, trusting, holistic" girls are supposedly rated low). Unless You are lacking the "loyal" trait, which would somewhat lower Your score with me (though I believe that some men might be fine with respectful, yet non-exclusive or short-term relationships, disregarding the importance of the "loyal" trait, so I don't think You'd be universally rated low).

[Pohjolan]

Because beauty is determined by beauty.

You don't get points in literature for being better at martial arts.

[Bethany22]

Harsh but good point

[loveslongnails]

This question has me scratching my head. By a "holistic girl", do you mean someone not into a lot of make-up, accoutrements like plastic nails and fake eyelashes, hair extensions, surgical enhancements, botox, et. al? As to beauty points (?), beauty is in the eye of the beholder as much the one who is beheld, so I can't possibly answer this without knowing "who" the specific woman is that I'm beholding!

[Bethany22]

Holistic meaning she's not a drama queen, has a nice voice, sugar coats everything, and has hobbies of her own

[msc545]

Probably because nobody should get points just for acting like a decent human being. It's sort of expected as you might guess.

[Bethany22]

So why do girls place so much importance on choosing a guy based on whether he is a decent human being, whereby caring about looks second?

[IslaTheWitch]

"calm trusting holistic girl" it's your opinion about yourself... are you sure others see you the same way?

I hope I don't get any beauty points... I prefer my man like me for other things than looks...

[faethon88]

A girl that is calm, trusting etc... gets all the points in my book. Guys who fail to see or acknowledge this are as problematic as girls who are gold diggers, unfaithful or have other issues. Men are usually beings that don't need too much drama in their lives. A calm, trusting girl is always welcome.

[CalmUntilAbused]

I'd go for "loyal" as well, otherwise I wholeheartedly agree with You.

[RavVid]

I have no idea what beauty points are of course. You get my love, appreciation and are valued.

That is a maxed out card.

[AviatorTom]

We guys don't award beauty points. We either like you or not, a simple yes or no decision.

[spartan55]

Holistic? I couldn't give any points for that, sorry.

[CalmUntilAbused]

How about "acting with integrity"? "Holistic" would probably be a fancy synonym to this.

[Anonymous]

For the same reason that women complain they can't find decent guy. But when they meet a decent guy she says, "I'm just not feeling it". 😆

You're only one half the equation. Try to remember that.

[fonduegirl]

You're never getting a honest answer on this site lmao

[CalmUntilAbused]

I beg to differ.

[fonduegirl]

@CalmUntilAbused I shan't argue. It's your POV.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@anon1903 Well... For one, I did give an answer. It might have been a bit too sarcastic at the beginning, but it's absolutely honest nonetheless.

[fonduegirl]

@CalmUntilAbused okay

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

To me, Beauty is skin deep

[SpeedAnswerDemon]

2 mm thick

[LiamJHayden]

"How many beauty points does a calm trusting holistic girl get?"

If she's a no drama peace bringer, she gets all of them.

[shortster]

Beauty points for personality traits?

[Bethany22]

Yes, exactly

[shortster]

I don't think that is how that works

[Anonymous]

Dunno, my wife definitely is not a drama queen nor a gold digger.. And I married her. Kind of puts lie to your premise.

[Stef12]

What do you mean Bethany? What's beauty points?

[fuddly]

What's beauty points?


You're either beautiful or not

[NathanDavis]

what on earth are beauty points? lol...

[Nifrayu]

What are beauty points?

[fonduegirl]

She's asking why guys usually flock to high maintenance girlies and later mock them

[Nifrayu]

@anon1903 I guess that's a good question. Though I don't really have an answer other than the obvious part where they are immature.

[elaphe]

Maybe you know the wrong type of men.

[Tomisworthless]

you're actually quite crazy and possessive

[noohair]

Points? What?

[OhLongJohnsoning]

@noohair She's saying "why aren't they praised for not being gold diggers"

It's like saying "why isn't trump praised for being a dumbass"