As men we take all the risks, for a girl who could leave you For the most trivial reason and take advantage of you.
When critical thinking guys enter into business contracts, we read the terms, conditions and fine print. But we are too often expedient in relationships and are not patient enough to check all the boxes before we offer a proposal or accept one.
Marriage is a social contract contract (agreement) where things of value are exchanged. It is only a trap when you either didn't agree on the known terms or if implied terms are not kept. It is voidable by the parties for either reason. I know fondness is a factor, but it can be forfeited if the agreement is violated.
Often implied terms are established through longevity of a relationship with time enough to establish them. Then, if one party changes the agreement arbitrarily, the contract is, again, voidable. Unlike business contracts, a marriage contract cannot be enforced by courts and there are often unknowns.
So its partly careful development and partly luck. You have to be prepared to start over and, dependent on your needs, the project may not be worth the stress and expense.
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For me getting married was for the sake of having children. I don't need marriage for commitment. I've never been in a relationship to a man wealthier than myself for him to worry about all that idicracy of being ripped off. I don't believe in shared bank accounts.
If you wanted a woman to have your children (which it sounds like no way you want children) would marriage then be a fair price? Because I think so.
Now I have had my kids and my marriage ended after 12 years I am single and wanting love, commitment and a happy long term relationship. At my age hopefully the last one I will have. I don't need marriage for that.
Is it a trap for men? In general? Presuming the man is a provider (rare these days) then yes I guess so. If he has a lot more than his partner. But that's only if things go bad and she's a bad person and he can hold his hands up and honestly say he was a good and honourable man who treated her right. People should marry for love and family nothing else.
(My sister brought to the marriage wealth and house which she split fairly with her husband during divorce. So he definitely benefited more than her).
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- Anonymous(45 Plus)24 d
Lawful marriage is a trap for men. Unlawful marriage isn't not a trap for anyone. You can have the wedding, wear the rings, say I do, etc etc without signing the papers and becoming lawfully married. You can make your own rules. People laugh at me when I say this stuff but who is stopping you from doing what I just said? It's okay to go against the masses. They historically have horrible results and never live the way they want. Get an unlawfully married if you don't want a lawful one. You get all the emotional perks without all the government crap.
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Unfortunately, going through the motions like that can be upheld in a court of law if the woman (or the man in some cases) can claim dependence on the other person.
Lawful marriage is a contract recognized by the government.
Unlawful marriage as you have described it, is an implied contract that can still be brought to a court of law.
I hate to say it, and I don't agree with it, but lawful marriage with a prenup is the best course of action as it defines the contract, separation clauses, etc. at the time of joining. Gotta love the American legal system sometimes... - 23 d
What you propose i'd be very willing to do, she can have my official loyalty (not that she needs it, I give that the moment I ask someone as my girlfriend) and a fairytale day and indeed no unfair balance of government risk. But every time I bring this up to girls on this site they refuse to settle for that, and I am not willing to sign my rights away for no good reason.
- Anonymous(30-35)24 d
It's not necessarily a trap, but it is certainly less beneficial to men today than in the past.
To those parroting the nonsense that men benefit from marriage more than women, I'll tell you why that is false. First, a big part of that claim is that married men live longer than unmarried men. But to make that determination, you have to wait until someone dies before you can know how long they will live. So by definition, the statistics are based almost exclusively on old men who were married decades ago when marriage was much more beneficial to men, AND men who were in lasting marriage, which meant they were healthy marriages.
And that brings me to the second point. Healthy marriages are beneficial to men, but half of marriages end in divorce, and women, not men, file 80% of those divorces. And divorce must be considered in the marriage equation. And here's the key... divorced men are grouped with single men in those studies, which heavily skews the results, especially when you consider how many of those single men had their lives ruined when their wives divorced them.
43 Reply- 24 d
@Gym_Bro This Anon basically has the opinion I have, so I'm not going to write out my own thoughts. I would've only added that maybe the man living longer is actually a curse and result of being henpecked into a healthier lifestyle and didn't really get to enjoy the extended life like a guy that can have a beer whenever he wanted to. Remember every man dies, but not every man really lives. In fact, I would argue a hen-pecked cucked wage-slave that comes home from work to slave some more for her is probably not as happy as me... slamming beers and throwing empty beer cans at people or playing video games all day if I want to. Just because the wage slave lives longer than a wild animal like me doesn't mean he's enjoying that extra time on this earth. It's just a result of his slave master keeping him too busy to ever enjoy his own life.
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@D_Bone_Steak I just wanted to pick that chick on some hypocrisy, i bet she's some lefty man hater so let's tell her that homos do better than lesbos in marriages.
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@Gym_Bro Hard to find... it's one of those subjects that ChatGPT is trying to mislead me on. I'll keep digging around and see if I can find it. Plus my account is acting goofy... I'll post something and it doesn't show up until later as if they're proofreading me and then allowing it.
I just have this feeling I should go incognito mode until I lose the interest of whoever's attention I currently have. ... most of all... avoid anything political. I'll try to find that study tonight though. I know my search isn't going right when only the University of Queensland and Berkeley are the only thing popping up... both well known woketard re-education camps.
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- 24 d
Marriage is like a hurricane there is a lot of blowing in the beginning & when it’s all said & done your house is gone. Marriage is a trap & the second you said I Do say goodbye to all of your shit down the road.
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Going through a divorce right now.
I wouldn't use the term trap (although many of us end up being trapped) because it implies a high degree of bad intentions on behalf of the trapper from the very beginning. (Why am I imagining women in animal fur and fluffy hats with tails?) Most of us pursued, proposed and said "yes I do" voluntarily thinking that it will go well with the same optimism some people have when investing in dubious financial instruments.
The term or concept I would rather use is that of a voluntary life sentence in a potentially beautiful five star prison with the option of early release in the shape of exit doors for men and women. The one for the women says "ladies first", the one for the men just has a laughing skull on it.
On a more serious note, marrying only makes sense if you want to raise children together.
00 Reply - 23 d
Not sure i would call it a trap because you need to agree to get married.
Thst being said, especially in the western countries, there is very little to no benefit to men. It is like when they married and gained a partner where the husband provided the finances and the wives took care of a built a home.
Now men are still expected to provide finances but also not only take care of say home and car maintenance but also half or more of domestic duties.
In my opinion id rather just take care of my own household and spend my resources on me, my home and my hobbies and steer clear of the headaches the majority of relationships bring. My life has 0 drama, very little stress and is very quiet and relaxing when I get home. It's my oasis.
If I want companionship, which is the only thing a modern relationship offers, I gave my friend groups and can just go out on the occasional date.
00 Reply I wouldn’t say it’s a trap. I would say it’s retarded. You can be single and have sex with whoever you want, whenever you want, no commitment, no real real if you’re safe, safe all your money, and live the best life possible. OR, Be with a woman, who almost 100% would leave you in a heartbeat if better options were available, then probably somehow blame you, OR, Best case scenario, you associate yourself with someone for so long that 2 compatible personality degrade eachother until you’re not longer compatible, you’ll get tired of her pussy, you’ll lose sexual interest in her, you’ll want to escape but it’s too late now. You’re fucked, and if you have kids you might as well just take every penny you have, put it in a trust for them when they’re 18 so that snake can’t access it, and blow your head off.
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Men on average get the most benefits out of marriage - married men are at a lower risk of heart disease, depression, and have a longer life expectancy than their unmarried counterparts. I have no idea where this rhetoric is coming from men now a days thinking marriage is “just a piece of paper”
It’s just idiotic35 Reply- 24 d
So you say men get those benefits and women don't... I have a question. How does marriage affect the health of homosexual men and women? Are you saying that two gay men married both live longer than single men, but two lesbians being married doesn't prolong any one of the two's lives?
I just came here to learn. Maybe @D_Bone_Steak can shed some light. - 23 d
Marriage does not benefit men., Being financially stable enough to be marriageable benefits men.
A man who gets married will not become healthier as a result of getting married. And if he gets divorced, his health is likely to get much worse.
Men who drive Porsches, on average, are wealthier than men who don't. Does that mean that if I start driving a Porsche, I'll become wealthier? of course not.
There is a CORRELATION between health and marriage for men. But correlation is not cause. - 23 d
You didn't name anything tangible, men can get screwed over if she leaves trough no fault of his own where he than has to pay her because she left. Hows that fair? Hows that an advantage for us over a relationship? Because in the relationship she can also just leave whenever she wants but then we don't get screwed in court. All that marriage does is punish the man if either one leaves.
- Anonymous(45 Plus)22 d
I don’t think men need marriage. The only things women have been able to say is men live longer, We have less chances of heart disease, lower depression. Who says the men want to live longer? We probably live longer because we stop doing a lot of the dangerous things we love to do. Why can’t a man get all those same benefits from a long, life term girlfriend. You don’t need marriage. I think marriage is more for the women, not so much the men. Especially these days. Besides everyone that goes wrong w women is always blamed on men. All these women blaming men for Trump winning the election lol
00 Reply - Anonymous(30-35)24 d
Marriage is not a trap for men. I have seen so many men's lives become enhanced and improved because the right woman came into his life, supported his career, sacrificed a lot to be with him, and became his biggest cheerleader in life when other people failed him. As much as guys claim to not need emotional support, they mostly get it from their wife or female partner. This is not something he can typically get from his male friends. Women have a special touch to gently guiding and supporting their man ❤
The right woman will be loyal and uplift him when life disappoints him. It's sad that some guys believe women are incapable of faithfulness or loyalty. I believe that comes from previous hurts or failed relationships. But marriage is supposed to bring fulfillment and happiness to a person's life and a sense of partnership. I hope that for everyone who craves it ❤
02 Reply- 23 d
Yeah, being with someone you get tired of that leeches off your wealth and well being to survive is really great. Love how woman think marriage is so amazing because of how the “see men’s lives are enhanced” are you seeing behind closed doors? Do you know how they actually feel? Oh you just go based off speculation and what you see from time to time, that’s a great metric for how marriage is good for men 💀
5.8K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. If you have that level of an immature mindset, you are doomed anyway. Stay out of the dating pool, so the quality people can rise to the top, like they always do anyway. Marriage, like any relationship, requires effort, compromise, and mutual respect from both partners, but some people just don't have what it takes.
31 Reply- Anonymous(30-35)24 d
I don't know where all this is coming from because where I live, marriage is much more beneficial to men. They’ll get a higher chance of a pay raise or bonus at work (especially if the wife doesn’t work), better deals on housing mortgages/rent, have someone to take care of household chores, better income tax, higher credit, etc. If men are so worried about losing their assets then just sign a prenup…
21 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Not at all , marriage is a choice and a commitment to each other , you are choosing that person the same way they should be choosing you , if you don’t trust that person? , than don’t ask them to marry you period. But if you love them and want to spend the rest of your life with them , then ask them to marry you. Marriage is not a trap if you both are on the same page with things
00 ReplyNo it is not. But don’t be stupid, it’s a legal contract. Always take a prenup. Every legal contract is about when it goes wrong. You don’t need a contract when everything goes right.
All the talk about ‘there is nothing in it for men’ is bs. You get a life partner and maybe even a family out of it. Thank god we are not living in de 12th century where you would own your wife. If that is your life goal: Afghanistan is very pretty this time a year.00 Reply- 24 d
That’s why getting to know someone before making such a huge commitment together is a critical part of a relationship. Both sides need to commit to someone who will also commit to the process of getting to know one another. People just have to slow down.
00 Reply Modern marriage is not in the Bible. Modern marriage is a legal financial Contract and that makes it about money. If it's not about money you wouldn't need the legal contract. Modern Marriage is an abomination. That's why your marriage will fail, it has nothing to do with God.
00 Reply- 24 d
No but before you date move all your assets out of your name. Set up an offshore trust or company and make major purchases through that. Don't even think about dating before your assets and investments are protected.
10 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)24 d
Yes marriage is a trap because women can take everything you owned goes to her and she can leave you either in the streets or you're back living with mom, dad or family. I heard some many horror stories. There was case about a guy was happily married then one day his now ex wife filed the divorced and she took everything from him the she got remarried to 2
21 Reply- Opinion Owner24 d
Yes, marriage is a trap because women can take everything you owned, go to her, and she can leave you either in the streets or you're back living with mom, dad, or family. I heard so many horror stories. There was a case about a guy who was happily married. Then, one day, his now ex-wife filed the divorced and she took everything from him, then she got remarried to 2 bisexual guys MFM. Marriage is not guaranteed, my friend*
- 23 d
it can be a trap for anyone; it depends on who they marry...
20 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)24 d
Of course it’s a trap. Don’t get married and try getting custody of your child you make together. Then, once she denies paternity, watch her take you to court and demand a paternity test and 8-10 years of back child support payments all while she denied your right to see your child.
12 Reply- 24 d
Fight for your rights. She only wins if you don’t try!
- 24 d
@the29thhuman Bullshit. You have noi rights as a man and a husband.
792 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. In the current system yes, if no fault divorce becomes a default loss for whoever leaves its in our interests again. Right now we are taking all the risk for nothing in return.
00 ReplyLawfully yes.
In my country, only men are guilty by default of any problem in marriage in the eyes of courts12 Reply- 23 d
@msc545 In India, laws are biased. Any random woman can point her finger at any random man for harassment on the streets and can file a police case. No preliminary inquiry or proof is required, and a man will be put behind bars. It took 5-20 years to get justice, until then jail or if under bail then you have to give weekly attendance at the police station.
Then there is no punishment for her by the law.
That's why 90% of the cases are false
Yes, according to the law, a man (kid and adult) can not do anything lawfully if raped and beaten by women
- Anonymous(25-29)24 d
Seriously get some new material. You've been an internet crybaby about this forever. Don't get married. People like you usually have that decision made by everyone else for you anyway. See you in a few days for yet another crying session.
10 Reply - 22 d
Unhinged liberal women call for ending men’s lives for voting Trump, advocate for Aqua tofana -
https://youtu.be/enzC9tCB6n8?si=rLWXrraOwhiNv8e-00 Reply If so, then it’s best to stay away from women completely.
No dating
No sex (that includes hookups)
No relationships
No building families (like having kids)
Just straight up avoid one another and everything will be fine.00 Reply- 24 d
One can be married without being married.
The ''trap'' is only made from social constructions/habits, and ''legal'' intervention into an otherwise private arrangement.
00 Reply - 23 d
What kind of girls? Western girls? Most women I know would do anything to save their marriage. It’s considered as a huge failure and most like to sort out their differences instead of leaving the guy.
00 Reply 469 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. You have to be an idiot to get married without a prenup even still you have to be an idiot if you have kids in the usare-state//background_color_rgba (0, 0, 0, 0), font_color_rgb (77, 77, 77), justifyLeft
00 Reply- 24 d
Yes it is 🤣😀 and most men rarely ever score a hot woman an actual hot woman big tits shapely body beautiful face - rare
02 Reply- 24 d
And I didn't even mention personality - let alone how majority settle for less - I think marriage is just like work, you gotta have the peasants working for capitalism hahahahaha
- 24 d
And breeding for it hahahahaha
- 24 d
Brave anon, it's not a trap but I don't think you will have to worry about it
10 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. That it is.
00 Reply- 24 d
You do realize that a woman with a higher income and more assets is just as much at risk as a guy?
13 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. And men never up and leave a girl with a couple rugrats?
00 Reply351 opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Yes the divorce laws are massively biased in favour of women,,,
00 ReplyIn the western world yes, i would never get married if i was living in a western country
10 Reply- Anonymous(25-29)23 d
Are u retarded? What risk to lazy ass men have? Getting pregnant? you sound stupid
23 Reply- Opinion Owner23 d
*do..
- Opinion Owner23 d
Stop making excuses for why you can't get a woman. You're just not attractive and don't have money
2K opinions shared on Guy's Behavior topic. Of course marraige is a trap for men. You need to be very stupid to not understand this.
00 Reply- 24 d
If it is with a loved wife who provides you healthy kids, good sex and loyalty, it is not a trap.
10 Reply - 24 d
It’s a trap for boys….
10 Reply - 23 d
I'm a trap I look for a ring 💍
00 Reply - Anonymous(18-24)24 d
Back for yet another internet cry?
10 Reply - 24 d
Have a prenup.
00 Reply For millionaires it is!
00 ReplyThe poll says it all.
03 Reply- 23 d
Lol, yup with the vast majority of men voting yes and the vast majority of women voting no its obvious who is the only one gaining from marriage until the system is fixed. I'd happily and eagerly marry if it meat that it was a default win for the person who didn't leave trough no fault. That way i'd have the same insurance she'd stay as she'd have with me, thats balanced. But as is in the US system its a no.
- 24 d
It can be if it's with the wrong woman
00 Reply - 23 d
If you marry a b&%#* it is.
00 Reply - u23 d
No, it's not.
00 Reply It isn't, if you're with the right woman.
00 Reply- 23 d
Nope
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