Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

In the past few months, we've seen a lot of questions about suicide and mental illness/wellness on GirlsAskGuys. These are important yet tricky topics to address and because of that, we thought we'd turn to a well-known individual in the field.

Welcome Natasha Tracy, an award-winning writer, speaker and social media consultant who helps educate people on the difficult topic of mental illness. As someone with bipolar disorder (and who has admitted to a suicide attempt), she brings a first-person perspective, which has been sought by various media and academic sources.

She is also the proud recipient of the Beatrice Sterm Media Award, and her website - Bipolar Burble - has been named a top 10 health blog by Healthista, and Healthline. Natasha has appeared on HuffPost Live and HealthiNation, and her writing has appeared on the Daily Mail (UK), Huffington Post, HealthyPlace, HealthLine and PsychCentral.

And now we're very happy to have her here. :)

Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

GaG: What’s the #1 misconception people have about bipolar disorder?

Natasha: “I think it’s that we’re (people with bipolar disorder) are violent and unpredictable, that our moods fluctuate all the time and change instantaneously. People think I’ll go from having a nice conversation with them one minute, and being angry and even suicidal the next. We run into this all the time; people say things like, ‘Never get into a relationship with someone with bipolar disorder.’ While it’s true that studies have shown people with this disorder may have aggressive personality traits, they don’t show violent traits. Not unless there’s another problem, like substance abuse. I’d say that on average, the mood shifts only three times or less each year, which means a bad mood could last for months if left untreated.

That all being said, there are some people – a very small percentage – with bipolar disorder that have rapid cycling, and their mood does switch faster. But for most of us, those moods are a prolonged thing. So this concept of constant mood swings, that we’re always moody and volatile; that’s not at all what bipolar is.”

Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

GaG: The stigmas surrounding bipolar disorder have changed over the years. Some even say it’s the “in” thing, as strange as that sounds. Why is this?

Natasha: “I wrote about this very recently: Is it actually fashionable to be bipolar? I think that with this disorder, some famous people – creative people like artists, musicians, etc. – have equated enhanced creativity and even fame with being bipolar. Now, there is a link between the disorder and creativity, that is true, but there is also an inordinate amount of pain.

There is nobody who actually has bipolar disorder that would ever want anyone else to have it. Everybody wants to be creative but nobody wants this huge amount of pain.

It’s only people who don’t understand the disorder who say these things. I would say that among the younger population where mental illness education is scant, they may fall victim to this ‘fashionable’ concept. But in the general population, nobody wants to claim they have a mental illness when in fact they don’t.”

GaG: Everyone experiences a little depression and anxiety in their lives. Does it frustrate you when people say they start saying it’s a disorder, even though it’s not MDD or GAD?

Natasha: “It is really frustrating because it denies the experience that people with mental illnesses really have. If you actually have a real anxiety disorder, you would know there’s lots of suffering. This suffering effects your life in a terribly negative way and depression is the same. So when people use the word ‘disorder,’ they’re usually just referring to discomfort and that’s very different from an actual disorder. The difference is that one really does affect your life while the other doesn’t. Being uncomfortable in certain situations doesn’t ruin your home life, your work life, your relationships. One of my favorite quotes is—

‘Mental illness is only a problem when mental illness is a problem.’

GaG: What’s your take on medication for mental illnesses like bipolar disorder?

Natasha: “The vast majority of people I know would rather do anything than be on medication for a psychiatric illness. People have this idea that if you go to a doctor and ask for an antidepressant, they’ll get a ‘happy pill’ but that’s not even remotely true. The medication aims to correct all the issues caused by a real disorder and if you don’t have the disorder, and there’s nothing to correct, the pill won’t do anything but give you side effects. We would really rather do anything than take these medications; it’s just that these treatments are the best medicine has to offer at this time.

I have tried many treatments for bipolar disorder and I do take some medications. I take a cocktail and I hate it. I really, really do. The side effects get me pretty much every day and I wish there was something better out there. I wish medicine had something better to offer me. But I want to say that through studies, we know that people with mental illnesses do better when they get a combination of medication and therapy. I’ve had many years of therapy and tried many types of therapy.

It’s critical for people with mental illness to have this therapy because it teaches you coping skills.

These skills are essential because they can help you through a rough patch, like thoughts of suicide. Not to mention that the support of a therapist can get you through some really bad times, too.”

GaG: Let’s say someone just got diagnosed with bipolar disorder. What would be your first words of recommendation to them?

Natasha: “The first thing I’d recommend is to educate themselves about the disorder. The problem with any mental illness is that most of us, myself included, only know what popular culture taught us when we’re first diagnosed. And that knowledge is typically incorrect. So you need to do research to get the facts; go to trusted sources of information. Not forums or random individuals but information put out by hospitals, written by doctors, etc.

Only after you truly understand the enemy you’re trying to fight can you successfully fight back.”

GaG: What might be their worst fear about this diagnosis?

Natasha: “It varies from person to person, that’s for sure, but there are two things that come up for most people:

First, the diagnosis means you’re going to have the disorder for the rest of your life, and the concept of a lifelong illness has got to be the scariest thing anyone can think of.

Most illnesses are temporary but bipolar, for example, is not. Second, they’re going to have treatment forever. That means medication forever and they have to learn new coping skills that they’ll need…again, forever. These things are extremely daunting; thinking about such a radical change that has happened to your life.

Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

For me, when I realized I had bipolar, the concept of actually taking medication scared me so much because I grew up with an alcoholic father. So I knew a lot about addiction and I didn’t want to become an addict. But what I learned – and this is why learning is so important – is that there’s a big difference between being dependent on something and being addicted to it. A prescribed medication like a mood stabilizer isn’t going to cause the same kind of harm a street drug or alcohol could cause. I don’t consider myself an addict in any way, but it was one of my major fears.”

GaG: You say you’re doing a major survey of people who have experiences with etc; tell us more about that.

Natasha: “About six years ago, I was in a very bad place. I got laid off from a job that was extremely important to me and the medications weren’t working. So, I elected to try electroconvulsive therapy (ECT). Early on, I’d sworn I’d never do it, but I got to a place where there were no other options for me. I saw a specialist on the matter and I ended up having 9 treatments. The treatments weren’t successful for me; they didn’t succeed in helping me with my depression.

But it’s just a medical treatment like any other and it needs to be treated as such. I saw a hugely debated area where people in the anti-psychiatry movement thought this treatment should be banned, and I felt it was important to stand up for it because it works for those who are very, very ill.

For people with few or no other options, electroconvulsive therapy has become a critical treatment, so I think the sigma surrounding this treatment needs to be removed.

Natasha Tracy Tackles the Tough Questions: Bipolar, Suicide, Medication, Oh My

About 100,000 people have these treatments every year, and they’re at the very depths of a bad illness. These treatments literally save their lives. So understanding all this, I tried to think of ways to educate others about not being biased against etc; about just taking a middle line and talking about it medically. Not pro-ECT or anti-ECT, just learning about it. This important survey is about getting feedback from those who have experiences with etc and my goal is to help future patients understand what other patients have gone through, to get their perspective. This way, they can have a statistical and neutral view of what the treatment is really like.

Hopefully, we can get a large pool of patients and then we’ll use that information and publish it in a peer-review journal.

End Interview

We'd like to thank Natasha for her time, and make a small announcement to boot: She has generously offered to answer your questions concerning bipolar, mental illness, suicide, etc. We will post up a question on the site and you guys and gals can enter your questions in the comment section. Then, we will have Natasha come in and answer them for you. Keep an eye out for that!

In the meantime, feel free to follow her on Twitter, Facebook and Google Plus.

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  • I hope this will benefit members of our community to read. I feel like, in general, there is such a stigma surrounding mental illness. Some people may be afraid to seek help because of that stigma. That's why it's very important to spread awareness and correct information on these topics. As Natasha said, taking the time to educate yourself is the first step towards understanding mental illness and those who suffer from it. Great interview. :)


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  • So how long will it go before GaG will delete anything that involves the word suicide and probably all the questions they would get?

    But a good question that for this Natasha, what she thinks of GaG trying to silence people who are depressed and how healthy that is for someone who may struggle from bipolar or depression.

    And personally, I dont really agree with medication in general, I know a lot of people who suffer from depression for example, and all the meds have done to all of them is make their life worse. It freezes down the problem you have in your brain so you can't overcome it. While no doubt the pain in general can be overwhelming (which I think is the most important part really is to simply have someone to talk to) so the overwhelming pain dont make you do something stupid, But everyone I know who are against using meds for bipolar and depression is against it cause it only made things worse. Not from fear of using it. Pretty sad to see too sometimes, since seen up close what it does to people.

    • Obviously, for the purpose of this interview and community event, the word "suicide" is perfectly allowable. :)

      And you might want to ask those people who "suffer" from depression if they actually have a disorder. The overwhelming majority of people don't and then take medication for it, and of course - as Natasha said in the interview - the medication does nothing. There's a very, very big difference between people who think they feel down more often than normal and something like Major Depressive Disorder. Far too few people understand this.

    • Insane rules honestly either way

      Of course they do, im not talking about people who think they do, cause yeah they kinda pisses me off, people who downplay these things, dramatize and claim to have depression etc if they are sad for a couple of days. One of the ones I was thinking about for example have attempted suicide 4 times and been in the hospital for each of them, barely survived 2 of those cases. But yeah im well aware. I was talking about people who actually struggle and have these "disorder" not people who think or like to think they do.

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What Girls Said 1

  • What if you're scared to talk to someone about what you think could be mental disorder, because you don't want the stigma of being "not mentally there" as some people put it, not wanting people to say things like "it's jut anxiety/you're just upset" or not wanting to have it go on a medical record because you don't want it to restrict you from getting a job? I know the army and certain other jobs won't take those with mental illnesses, and other jobs may frown upon it.

    • For the US military, there's a waiver for just about anything under the sun. If you have a disorder and can show that it's well managed, you'll be fine.
      As far as the military is concerned, the main issue is dependence on medications. If you are dependent on meds, then that's a big red flag, because a constant supply of meds can't always be ensured -- especially in situations like foreign combat zones, which are precisely THE worst situations for someone with a medication-dependent psych condition to suddenly be deprived of her/his meds.

      In general, there is no centralized database of any kind for medical records, so there is literally no way for the military to find out if you simply lie about a previous diagnosis. The only thing that would be easily accessible would be prescription history -- especially if you've been prescribed controlled substances, and double-especially if those were covered in whole or in part by insurance coverage -- but, if you could make

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    • No worries. If you find out any specific meds that might be under discussion, go ahead and shoot me a message. Good luck (to you and him)

What Guys Said 3

  • I like how virtually everyone ignores asking what the underlying causes of these things are. Everyone just seems to assume that it's "natural". It's really not. We don't live healthy, and we're saturated with pollution and toxic stuff. Questions are not asked because the media doesn't ask them because it's not in their interest for the people to question these things.

    • If you had bothered to make any effort at research, you'd have found that the NIH has taken a look at what they call "environmental exposures" as risk factors for bipolar. Unfortunately, the only conclusion that they could reach is that more data is needed.

  • As someone who was diagnosed wit hdeoressuibm ADHD, and ASD, It really does bother me that mental illness is seen as 'fashionable'

    • hdeoressuibm*who does suffer from.
      Fuck I need to stop laying down and typing

  • All that and vaginal warts? She has a touch life.


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