Why Women are Not the Weaker Sex

[Anonymous]

It is time to bury the idea that women are the weaker sex where it belongs, in the past. Modern research shows that women are not the weaker sex. In fact, women hold significant advantages over men when it comes to physical strength and overall fitness capabilities because of the fact that they are women.

Muscle growth in men and women is the same.

Despite men having 15 times more testosterone [1], women actually have a higher protein synthesis than men, which is crucial for building muscle mass and strength, but the relative strength and muscle mass between men and women is about the same [2]. The difference is that men have higher starting mass and size. neither age nor gender affects muscle volume response to whole-body ST [3].

Male and female differences in sports are not a good comparison for men and women in society.

1. The differences in athletic competitions between men and women have long since been used an argument for male superior physical capabilities but these differences do not represent the differences between men and women in society. In this study [4] trainees were given a placebo of Dianabol (anabolic steroids) which increased their strength gains with 321% whereas the trainees that were given the actual Dianabol of of the same dosage increased only a couple percentages [5], so if placebo steroids can increase your strength gains with 321%, what do you think will happen if you tell women they have 15 times less testosterone than men? They will simply not try as hard as men do, if they even try at all that is.

2. Its actually harder for men to be elite athletes than it is for women because there are more male candidates to become elite athletes than there are female candidates to become elite athletes [6], this means that the male elite athletes are the absolute best of the best our species has to offer thus making elite male athletes generally more elite than elite female athletes, however the average Joe and average Jane are not elites, both also have equal muscle mass and size. If there would be the same amount of female candidates to become female elite athletes are there are male elite athletes both men and women would be able to compete with one another without any problem.

Conclusion: Social conditioning is a bigger factor for perceived male superior physical capabilities than elite male athletes ever will be, and due to disproportion of female and male candidates for elite athleticism male physical athletes are actually more elite, but science shows time and time again the average person, regardless of gender is about equal in muscle size and strength.

Testosterone means almost nothing for muscle mass between genders.

In individuals more T means more muscle mass, but since testosterone is not even needed in females to build muscles [7], its not that much of a factor. “The difference in lean body mass is sufficient to account for the observed differences in strength and aerobic performance seen between the sexes without the need to hypothesize that performance is in any way determined by the differences in testosterone levels.” [8] What is however a factor in muscle growth in women, and you are not going to like it... Contraceptives. Female hormonal based contraceptives stunt female muscle growth. [9]

Growth hormone also determines muscle growth capabilities, women produce 3 times more growth hormone than men [10]. This explains why women's lack of testosterone does not stunt female muscle growth. It is not the amount of hormones which determines muscle growth, its how your genes interact with them. [11]

Women hold 4 advantages over men when it comes to muscle growth.

Estrogen is often looked upon as the bad guy when it comes to hormones, but actually it gives women significant advantages.

1) Estrogen aids muscle repair. [12]

2) Estrogen is anti-catabolic (meaning that it prevents muscle loss). [13]

3) Estrogen has anabolic effects (meaning that it build muscle mass). [14]

4) Estrogen increases metabolism. [15]

Women should train differently than men.

The reason why we don't see as much muscular women is because they train just like men. Women should actually be training differently than men since their biological and physiological differences. If more women would design their work outs around their female body and its strengths, instead of copying workout plans designed around the male body and its strengths women would actually be able to compete with men in sports. Its true that untrained men are stronger than untrained women, but when both are at elite athlete level, they are equally in strength. this means that women are not the weaker sex. It is just that society keeps telling them they are, which leads them to believe they are. Women have accepted their position as weaker sex, and some have even exploited this position.

It is unethical to say that women are the weaker sex in the face of overwhelming scientific evidence proving this statement wrong time and time again.

With this evidence for your convenience here collected that women are not the weaker sex, and still to say that women are the weaker sex; is to say that you want women to be the weaker sex. Whether you are a man wanting women to be the weaker sex due to beliefs of male physical supremacy, or a woman wanting women to be weaker sex simply because its convenient. It is unethical to keep this position on women and physical fitness.

Why women do not live up to their potential.

* Even at Olympic level there are less female participants [16]

* Most women don't have a serious lifting regimen.

* Social expectations of women are different. Many people find women who are very muscular ugly, this prevents the vast majority of women from achieving their maximum potential.

* Women who break through the stigma often use an exercise regimen for men.

* Contraceptives do hinder muscle growth in women that work out. [17]

* Some women shame these fitness queens because they are millions of times hotter than the average women, this may prevent women from working out as hard.

* Some women are just too lazy.

Sources:

[1] https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/003707.htm

[2] https://www.fasebj.org/content/23/2/631?ijkey=61cab85d37cad7f234aaaa9d66139b71d586b8f0&keytype2=tf_ipsecsha

[3] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11890579?dopt=Abstract

[4] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232171854_Anabolic_steroids_The_physiological_effect _of_placebos

[5] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1859222/

[6] https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/PR1314.pdf

[7] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18390925

[8] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cen.12445/abstract

[9] https://www.fasebj.org/content/23/1_Supplement/955.25.short

[10] https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-abstract/81/7/2460/2875537/An-amplitude-specific-divergence-in-the-pulsatile?redirectedFrom=fulltext

[11] https://jme.endocrinology-journals.org/content/44/1/55.short

[12] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-013-0081-6

[13] https://journals.lww.com/acsm-essr/Abstract/2014/10000/Influence_of_Sex_and_Estrogen_on_Musculotendinous.7.aspx

[14 ]https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4614-8630-5_3

[15] https://jap.physiology.org/content/early/2015/08/27/japplphysiol.00473.2015?papetoc=

[16] https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/17461391.2014.911354

[17 ]https://www.fasebj.org/content/23/1_Supplement/955.25.short

PS. I find these women extremely hot.

PSS. All pictures are stolen from Instagram.

[redeyemindtricks]

Look, I appreciate the spirit of this take, but... those pictures. Let's... uh... talk about those.

With the exception of MAYBE the 2nd woman and MAYBE the last woman... all of these women are very obviously using performance-enhancing anabolic/androgenic (= testosterone family) drugs.
... and except for the 1st one, they're all using truly MASSIVE quantities of said drugs.

Also... Lol the model in the 3rd picture isn't even rlly a woman. That model is biologically male.
Either that, or else that model has pretty much completed a FTM transition, implying at least a couple years' worth of truly epic doses of masculinizing hormones.

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"Testosterone means almost nothing for muscle mass between genders"

^^ Dude
DUUUUUUUDEEE

Okay, I gather that you're just being a contrarian here. But, I mean... common-sense smell test? This is like saying "Food means almost nothing for women's bodyweight."
It's just plainly NOT TRUE -- a fact that's readily observable. (Women who inject even modest amounts of supplemental testosterone VERY quickly add significant muscle mass to their frames, with any non negligible weight training.)

If you find studies to "support" a "fact" that's OBVIOUSLY NOT TRUE, then, you know what you shd do, right?
You shd go back htrough YOUR thought process, and figure out where YOUR reasoning is going awry.

Lemme help you out a bit here:
You cited study no. 7 as "evidence" for this.
Study no. 7 is about MICE.
You know what mice DON'T do? ... Work out, that's what. Mice don't work out, dude.

If there was some way they could get those girl-mice to embark on a grueling lifting program... yeah, you'd see a MASSIVE difference (literally) pretty darn fast.

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Finally...

"Women should train differently than men"

^^ I like how you just... like, toss this out there, and then leave it. 0 examples, 0 explanation.

This statement is kinda true, but, it's a lot more false than true. Remember, I make my *living* in this field.

THE BIGGEST reason why women's fitness lags behind men's -- BY FAR -- is because women DON'T "train like men".
They're *petrified* of "getting huge" -- and if they're (wrongly) told that the women in THESE pictures are drug-free lifters who just train rlly hard, that doesn't exactly help.
So... they do these stupid, mostly useless workouts with 2- and 3-lb dumbbells that honestly shouldn't be found anywhere outside a physical therapy/rehab gym.
By so doing, they're kinda doing a workout that sorta wants to be

[redeyemindtricks]

cardio, and that sorta wants to be muscle endurance, but that doesn't rlly confer the advantages/benefits of EITHER of those.
Literally the ONLY benefit of "lifting" 2-lb weights up and down some ungodly number of times, is that it's **social**, and you can do it with yr girlfriends. That's the only benefit.

Women SHOULD be lifting heavy, just like the boys. The only major differences are with regard to joints.
(E. g., women's knees are more susceptible to cartilage tears, esp if tehy have wide hips / "thigh gap", so women should pre-hab the inner quad muscles to prevent those injuries. And on the flipside, women are much less likely to suffer connective tissue injury than the boys are, because they just don't build the sheer mass of muscle that destabilizes ligaments and tendons.)

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At the end of the day, yr support for women's fitness is... heartwarming. But, if you're going around thinking these women are drug free, well, you've got a lot of disappointment ahead of you.

[myTake Owner]

Well at least you apreciate the spirit.

[BeeNee]

I couldn't agree more with this statement above anything else said in the actual take: "THE BIGGEST reason why women's fitness lags behind men's -- BY FAR -- is because women DON'T "train like men". They're *petrified* of "getting huge." YES! Standing ovation! We have groomed an entire society to believe that women should be thin and dainty and soft and men should be strong and muscular. Muscular women are often told they are too masculine, must be lesbians, or no guy wants 'that,' so they don't train to their full potential even though hilariously weight lifting that 5lb hand weight is NEVER going to get them to the level of these women pictured no matter how many reps and sets they do with it. But this is the fear campaign put forth. You want to lift lady? Look what kind of Hulk you'll turn in to. So they do cardio for 3 hours a day and "lift" that 2lb weight and call it a day. So women remain weak, largely, by choice. Sad.

[GraveTruth]

@BeeNee What about the fact that 10yr old boys are stronger than 10yr old girls?

Is there training strong?

[BeeNee]

@GraveTruth Not all of them are. Some are, some aren't, but that's not even what I'm specifically responding to. I'm talking about women as compared to other women.

[Mysterioustruth]

The thing is women will buy into this because they have a inferiority complex. They feel bad about themselves so they want to grab onto anything that makes them feel better about themselves. All of what he said just isn't true.

[redeyemindtricks]

@Mysterioustruth Look, young men aren't any less insecure than young women. The main difference is that young women are usually... well, actually *aware* of their insecurities. (Whereas boys will pin it on everyone *else*, rather than looking within themselves. -- Oh, I'm just super competitive with all these other boys. Oh, those women are always being bitches to me. Etc etc.)

Try bringing people up for a change, instead of knocking them down.

[Mysterioustruth]

You must understand that boys are naturally tougher than women emotionally and mentally. It's true that some men are insecure but that's not we are talking about here, we are talking about women. So talking about men insecurity is completely out of pocket because it has nothing to do with anything we are discussing here. It just shows that you have an inferiority complex. Then stating that man are competive. Of course we are. That's a natural giving gift to us. Testosterone drive energy is what drives us forward. So unless you have something intelligent to say, don't say anything.

[redeyemindtricks]

@Mysterioustruth
... what?

[SovereignessofVamps]

Don't worry about the mystery dude. I had asked him why he commented on every girl post except for yours, and he finally decided to... I don't know why he's doing it.

But your post is badass!!

[redeyemindtricks]

@SovereignessofVamps Tx bb

[Mysterioustruth]

@SovereignessofVamps I've got to help fight feminism. It's a desease.

[Porch]

@BeeNee
Women can train like men but if they're the same size and fitness level, the man is stronger. That's why men are called on the front line in military. A 5'9" 185 lb man would be stronger than a 5'9" 185 woman that did training to their max.

[BeeNee]

@Porch what does that have to do with any of what I said?

[Porch]

@BeeNee
Women are not weaker by choice. The Bible declared them weaker. I'm not replying again so save yourself the time to comment.

[redeyemindtricks]

@BeeNee Don't worry, yr point got across to me just fine. I don't know what this boy is talking aobut, either.

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[Porch]

@redeyemindtricks
Read the Bible and you'd see where it displays females are weaker.

[redeyemindtricks]

@Porch If you're talking about 1 Peter 3:7, that has nothing at all whatsoever to do with physical strength.
Women's physical strength is addressed in Proverbs 31:17. Our arms are strong, for all the work we tirelessly do—whether it's appreciated or not.

Also, I don't know what you think you're disagreeing with. The whole point of my post is, quite obviously, that women don't (and can't) have the same androgen-induced pure power and strength as boys do, without serious drugs.

And BeeNee is just talking about how lots of women, unfortunately, pass on incorrect ideas to other women, which makes THOSE women weaker than they COULD be.
I know that eeeeeeverything is always about the boys, all the tmie... but, nope. What she said has absolutely nothing at all to do with boys. I know, right?

[BeeNee]

Thank you for understanding my meaning. This Porch person is on some tangent that has nothing to do with me or what I said.

[redeyemindtricks]

@BeeNee I mean... that's all women talk about is boys, right? 😂😂😂♥️ ahha

[BeeNee]

right, right (she says sarcastically)!

[Porch]

@redeyemindtricks
Alright. Thanks for clearing that up. Well, boys does come before girls in the dictionary, so give me my proper due, eh!!

[redeyemindtricks]

@Porch Yes, boys *do* come first... don't they. Way way way too often. That's frustrating. And it can physically hurt. Hopefully you can at least follow up with yr tongue?

#muah <3

[Porch]

@redeyemindtricks
You mean you want a French kiss from me? I don't quite make out what you mean.

[BluesBoy]

Did you ever put your feet in a gym or in a ring, compete against huge fucking beast cause if you had, you would not write those amount of bullshit.

I had the opportunity to meet Pete Rubish during the TNT deadlift challenge. If you had met this kind of beast, you will know that no woman will ever match men athletes.

I had the opportunity to watch irl a fight of Bas Ruten and Alistar Overeem and then again, if you had watch that then you will understood that all your paper is uterly bullshit.

Even if we don't talk about sports but high physical and mental jobs like the USMC, they made a study and the top 10% female only match the low 20% male.

This is ridiculous and women can get closer to men in endurance sports but it is a no contest in strength and power sports.

Finaly : "Testosterone means almost nothing for muscle mass between genders" you have no idea what test means when it comes to muscle building and certainly don't train with people who are juicing like fucktards. I am and this shit is batshit crazy, the gainzzz from cycles like halotetin/tren/test are fucking insane.

And yes bakharnabieva is really really beautifull but when it comes to Legs, Tom Platz smokes her, so has Neil Currey and many other.

[Idonthaveausername]

I agree with a lot of what you have here, but not the entire thing. I think women have the capability of having rock hard abs and thighs of steel, but since the vast majority of women don't and a sizeable portion of men do, then men tend to tip the scales towards their side for who has more muscle in general. Women have the potential to reach a peak physical condition, but the stigma of not looking attractive with too much bulk stops a lot of women from pursuing it, so there's also a higher proportion of men who are stacked than women because of this. Most women do not reach their full potential, but those who do are just as strong proportionally as men

And then there's the size issue. Yes a 150 lb girl who's in peak condition is strong, but a 250 lb man in peak condition is going to be stronger just because he's bigger and has mass on his size. She may still best him in some areas because she may have faster reflexes and better agility, but he would win in a pure strength contest. I would like to see a few women here and there qualify for male sports teams, but I also think that's unlikely to ever happen. If and when it ever does, you will still see men seriously outnumber women on these teams

And I also have to point out there are a lot of women who are stronger than a lot of men they meet. I actually beat some guy at arm wrestling a couple weeks ago because I was flat-out stronger than him. It must have been hilarious for other people watching some guy who was over 6' tall cheating at arm wrestling to try and beat a girl who is only 5'

But I like your enthusiasm for female body builders. It's great that you find their strength attractive. I think being physically fit and healthy is generally a positive thing for everybody. And I wasn't aware that men and women are supposed to work out differently, so that's something new I learned today

[Analinda1999]

I just joined, I have not read very many posts but this is definitely my favorite. mostly because i have always thought people insisting women are weak are saying it because they WANT to think so. if they dis not want to think so they'd be thinking of ways to improve strength. even if they genuinely believe in female weakness, that never explains the insistence on keeping it that way. Logically., ESPECIALLY if someone is weaker it would make sense to strengthen them. not that i think women are weak,. i have always been strong relative to my friends regardless of gender, so it was never something i just assumed. I was always like what are you talking about lol

excellent job on researching estrogen, i knew about this but i think bc male testosterone is looked at as so strength centric, very little attention gets put into understanding the different metabolism of hormone women and men have- including in terms of strength -not just the fact we have different amounts of hormones.

nice job over all. I am guessing you will get a lot of controversial responses. :-)

[Mysterioustruth]

Sorry to disappoint you but all of what he said wasn't factual.

[Analinda1999]

@Mysterioustruth

you dont have any such power. :)

[Mysterioustruth]

? The fuck are you even saying?

[SamsonT]

I have done some form of weight lifting for over 30 years. Some breaks in there. Four times a weak for 1.5 hours would be my most common, rarely more, but maybe once a week for good stretches too. My girlfriend is on her second real serious batch. Once 4 years ago. She stopped for 1.5 years and the last 2.5 years she has been a total gym rat. 5 days a week 3 hours each. I can honestly say she has more absolute lower body strength now and more relative upper body strength but not absolute upper body strength. ie She can leg press 540 for 12 reps 4 sets, and keep going 450, 360 270 continuous. I can't match her legs on that but I admit I dont put as much time in legs as she does. In upper body she is doing 45 push ups to my 30 to 33. A few more dips and can strict curl 15 reps within 7.5 pounds of myself. Calculated for her body weight her upper body is stronger but my upper body is much bigger in size and muscle. People are shocked how strong she is compared to how she looks. On the other hand I look a lot stronger in upper body then her but it is true only in absolute terms. She is about 65% to 70% my body weight but lifts more like 80% has much except in bench press where it is more like 70%. That make her at least equal in bench in relative terms. To boot she can do15 more push ups. One can argue she is the stronger one

[Kirah]

None of what you said was even remotely true! You are completely delusional if you think testosterone has no effect on muscle growth.

Women are generally physically weaker than men. This isn't because of "society" or the ever-elusive "patriarchy". It's called sexual dimorphism.

Until women actually compete with men at the top level, your argument cannot possibly stand.

[Porch]

@Kirah
True. He'll say pound for pound, they are. That still isn't true though. The Bible already declared females the weaker sex. Anybody who argues that is arguing against God. First creation is always going to be stronger than Second creation.

[IndianGirl01]

@Porch no. bible was written by some men of those times. so even though many things written in it are true, not everything is right or the gospel truth because it was written by a human being only. try and read the da vinci code by dan brown.
p. s. WOMEN ARE NOT THE WEAKER SEX. THEY ARE EQUAL.

[Kinstrome]

I thought this would be a "Men may be physically stronger, but women have other kinds of strengths, so it really evens out overall. And can't we just get along, anyway?" type of take. Instead you focused on making a point that just plain out isn't true. There is a surplus of evidence showing that men are physically stronger.

If you want to help women, focus on real, verified facts. Women have great emotional strength and the ability to bear and care for children requires a lot of it.

Actually, in this day in age, unless you're talking to teenage boys or you're in a country where women can't even drive, you aren't likely to hear "women are the weaker sex" very often, anyway.

[GraveTruth]

HAHAAHA, funny joke.

It looks like Captain geek who has never been to a gym in his life is going to make a write up about something that he knows nothing about from experience yet has read a ton of information from others who have never been to a gym before either.

You are clearly are confusing raw strength and power with endurance.

It is true that woman have more endurance than a man but that's about it. For example, I go to a gym that has about 1,200 women that go there. I am ABSOLUTELY sure that I could knock out every girl there with the exception of two. I'm sure I can out lift every 1,198 of them easily. I could arm wrestle them out easier. I don't go to the gym more than them. I'm a MAN. Now compared to guys at the gym I probably run somewhere in the middle for strength.

You need to take your little book reading crap and walk away.

[Phoenix98]

Lol being probably one of the few people actually qualified to answer this as a person who is an actual fitness professional from one of the best institutes in the world, and having studied science and whether women are indeed stronger then men or not.

I can honestly tell you men are the stronger sex.

And actually testosterone does affect muscle growth a lot actually, testosterone is responsible for creating the more manly features such as chiseled jawlines, deeper voice and bodily hair growth, even sex drive is affected by it but most importantly muscle growth in affected by testosterone.

While women are flooded with estrogen the feminine chemical which has the exact opposite effect testosterone does.

your sources are wrong and you my friend are delusional and I can almost guarantee you those women are taking testosterone and other performance enhancing drugs.

[DrTruth]

HAHA! According to your pictures, having nice physical aesthetics doesn't mean great physical strengths. Women powerlifters look nothing like this. The only way for women to compete with average men in strength is if they use testosterone with estrogen blockers. If women are equal to men, then why are the military fitness standards ( number of push ups, sit ups, and run time ) still gender specific?

[myTake Owner]

Because there are more male than female participants allowing tests to hold men at higher standards because there are more men competing for only a limited amount of positions in the military.

[DrTruth]

Oh. So, you believe in affirmative action and we should allow a person to do a job they aren't physically capable of doing. Hasn't worked for firemen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb_WYGtZ7K4

Would you want a firewoman that can't drag 150 pounds out of a burning building in your town?

[myTake Owner]

Look buddy its quite simple. There are 10.000 male participants for 500 positions in the military. This means that the best of the best men can be selected.

For 500 female positions there are only 2500 participants thus not the best of the best can be selected.

Statistically women are better sharpshooters than men. Thus all sharpshooters should be women. But only, all of them are men. Why? Due to lack of female participants.

More participants = higher quality. Less participants = lower quality.

It is all relative and this mytake is about the AVERAGE woman and man NOT elite. didn't you read all of it?

[DrTruth]

Do you believe we should have gender quotas for the military? I mean, if women are equal to men, we can do away with affirmative action and military fitness standards where only the "elites" can join regardless of gender. Affirmative actions exists so the weak ( women ) can join. Because of "Gurl Powerf" and political correctness.

As far as women being better sharpshooters, they might be. However, when under pressure of war, they shit their pants. Sure their are exceptions but as a marksmen myself and when I served, I've never seen it.

I read half and knew that this My Take was female pandering nonsense.

[SovereignessofVamps]

The hate from guys on this is amazing. I love redeye's answer, but most guys can't even fight. Muscles don't mean anything if you don't know how to fight. I can't fight either lol But I'm sure most guys would lose against a smaller woman who knows how to fight or used objects to win. The objects would be cheating, but guys don't have dodge skillz either.

[SovereignessofVamps]

And if you find them hot that's totally OK BTW~!

[SovereignessofVamps]

And... a lot of women are actually physically bigger than lots of skinnier or shorter guys w/o using anything. So fight or not they are technically bigger

But yeah skinny and short people can win fights, I've seen short or skinny guys win fights, mostly on YouTube.

[Mysterioustruth]

It's funny that when men disagree with something, they automatically hate women. I have no idea what this guy's agenda is but most of the facts he brought up weren't even true. If you want me to tell which one, I will.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Mysterioustruth Nope, don't need you to.

[Mysterioustruth]

Well keep living in fantasy then!

[Kuraj]

Nobody hating on them fighting girls, people are just hating on this bunch of stupid alternative facts and baloney.

I mean doesn't it come off as a little insulting to you that OP suggests that top female athletes are not on the level of male athletes simply because they aren't training "hard enough" ?
Surely, if this is all true there must be SOME women who are strong and independent enough to prove all "social conditioning" wrong and just train harder.
If I was a top athlete I wouldn't train just so I could beat the competition, I would train to be at the best level I can possibly reach, which I would assume is something all of the top level athletes already do anyway.

The discrepancy between athletic performances between sexes are HUGE, so much so that no women would ever qualify for most olympic disciplines if the expectations would be of the same level as men's.

[SovereignessofVamps]

@Mysterioustruth I don't know what your problem is, and could careless.

@Kuraj mhm.

[Mysterioustruth]

It's funny when a female gets smashed in a arguments, it's automatically the guy is a misogynist or he hates women or he has a problem. Get over yourself!

[Porch]

@Mysterioustruth
Tell me the ones.

[Porch]

@SovereignessofVamps
I guarantee you that if a 5'4" 138 lb man and a 5'4" 138 lb woman of same strength and endurance and age got into a fight, that the man would win. This has been demonstrated.

[Porch]

@SovereignessofVamps
Even men smaller than women can even win in fights, assuming there is not extreme size differences.

[Leandri]

Yeah, I've seen it with my own eyes

[TripleAce]

A comparable comparison of male vs female here is anyone of those girls vs this guy since we're talking about steroid, use you need to have the right comparisons

https://www.xtremdiet.com/images/bodybuilder8.jpg

[HorrorFan]

If this were true, then of all the billions of women in the world and all the years and years of fitness being a thing in existence, then at least a handful of women would have been able to legitimately compete with the best men in the world. There would have been women that not only trained the absolute most effective way possible but had the drive and determination to prove they can compete without any bullshit holding them back.

Yet it hasn't happened. Because it's not possible.

[FakeName123]

"Despite men having 15 times more testosterone [1], women actually have a higher protein synthesis than men, which is crucial for building muscle mass and strength, but the relative strength and muscle mass between men and women is about the same [2]. The difference is that men have higher starting mass and size. neither age nor gender affects muscle volume response to whole-body ST [3]."

That's why olympics still seperates male and female athletes. Lol

[raspberry0416]

Well I'm not a medical or fitness expert, but I do know that women have a higher body fat percentage than men naturally, so this probably affects our fitness levels.
Also I don't think most women have an incentive to work out and become physically strong like men do. Stay slim and fit yes but not to build up muscle mass. That's not to bash the women who do want to become professional athletes.

[Mysterioustruth]

Read Kirah's post. Everything that he said wasn't true.

[applesandoranges22]

I get that you want to make women feel better when they are called ''weak'' but lying and misinterpreting details and spreading ignorance doesn't help. when someone called you out on it you didn't even deny it, so I am pretty sure you know how all of this is bullcrap. Since when was it ok to lie and try to pass things off as fact?

[Anonymous]

Completely untrue. Average woman is weaker than man. Bringing up extreme examples won't change it.

Ofc those amazons would have no problem totally dominating me with their power but there is higher amount of males out there who will have no problem dealing with them, who also workout very hard and surpass them.

Most woman are extremely weak. That is how it is.

[Tony1974]

Sorry but except for the girl in jeans with that booty and the very last girl, these women are not attractive at all. Too much muscle makes a women look "manly"

The Marines have found that the average woman can lift 90% of what the average man does. Women CHOOSE not to do many things because they can get away with having a man do it for them.

[YourFutureEx]

I liked this take just because you managed to write a long take with a whooping 17 studies added to it... on a false topic. Very persuasive.

[Iltopo]

I wouldn't agree with this. Not that I don't believe a woman can be stronger than a man, a lot are, surely if this was true, history would be a lot different.

[Porch]

@Iltop
True. The Bible even declares females are the weaker vessel.

[Adrian12345]

@Porch The Bible was written by whom? Guys!
Jesus never said that women were weak or "weaker".

[CT_CD]

I don't think women hold any advantages over men when it comes to physical strength and overall fitness capabilities. Even at an elite athlete level the men are still way better than the women. It's not even a comparison. Lots of Professional Women's sports teams would lose to good men's High School teams.

[Mysterioustruth]

His facts weren't even real

[nalaa]

". If more women would design their work outs around their female body and its strengths"

you're such a tease... tell us what such a workout would be

[GraveTruth]

he can't because he's never been to a gym in his life. He's reading from book junk.

[Mysterioustruth]

@GraveTruth actually all of what he said wasn't in a book because it isn't true.