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I've only been to the US a couple of times, but from movies and friends I've met over the years, it seems to me American people are actually very confident overall. I mean, fat or thin, most of them still wear the shorts they want and go out and about not really caring much about what other people may think.
At the same time, there's this obsession lately with looking sexy and caring about how you look which is kinda bizarre because basically everyone and even the biggest people still feel sexy. Again, amazing confidence levels overall, lol.
Anyone that goes to the US from anywhere in the world is shocked with the size of the portions at the restaurants and the amount of oil and cheese used. And the soda you can refill anywhere? It's probably pretty easy gaining weight unless you are very strict with yourself, were carefully brought up and really like going to the gym or have a great metabolism.
But anyway, at the same time, if people were more considerate about others feelings there probably wouldn't be a need for a fat acceptance movement. First, because there wouldn't be that many fat people occupying 2 seats everywhere (if there were equality, some people would actually pay for 2 seats on an airplane, no?) and the remaining fat people who can't avoid it for medical conditions or something else, wouldn't need to fight for dignity and respect.
On my other site we had a debate about this "Founded in 1969, NAAFA is a non-profit civil rights organization dedicated to ending size discrimination in all of its forms. NAAFA's goal is to help build a society in which people of every size are accepted with dignity and equality in all aspects of life. NAAFA will pursue this goal through advocacy, public education, and support."https://www.naafaonline.com/dev2/
There is absolutely nothing wrong with this movement.
I think the movement is important, because of our level of ignorance. We are now finding even the level of bacteria in the body can cause obesity. So the idea that fat people are horrible people is really one based on ignorance. The truth is people are fat for a number of different reasons, and simply blaming it on sloth and gluttony isn't fair.
Obesity wasn't a major issue until the government started telling people how to eat. Clearly people's bodies aren't reacting the same way to the foods, and chemicals that we are all exposed to. I think healthy lifestyles should be encouraged, but lately there has been a movement to make it acceptable to discriminate against fat people that I don't agree with.
So-called fat acceptance is a manifestation of the absurdist thinking of the looney left.
People are fat because they lack self disciple and are lazy. Nobody forces the food into their mouth and nobody prevents them going for a walk, or doing whatever else is necessary to maintain a reasonable level of fitness.
I have fought all my life to maintain a healthy weight, so to the delusional morons who bleat about fat acceptance I say: you are a delusional, lazy, stupid, pig who needs to get off their cellulite-ridden arse and do something about it.
Fat acceptance involves: diabetes acceptance (with the attendant kidney failure, liver failure, blindness and amputations) and heart disease acceptance.
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I think that people shouldn't quantify their self worth based on their weight. Or anything else appearance related. Which is kinda the idea behind fat acceptance.
However at the same time we don't need to pretend, as a country, that obesity is okay, normal, nothing to worry about. while a person shouldn't hate themselves because they've gotten heavy, they also shouldn't say "who cares! because I'm still awesome regardless and everyone should just accept my weight!" and then not do anything about it.
It's not just about looks. That's the general consensus among Americans is that the only downside to obesity is that it is physically unappealing. It's about health as well, and considering that heart disease is a huge problem in the US, as well as childhood diabetes and obesity... we're going downhill.
Bottom line though-I understand the motivation behind fat acceptance but I think it is having some unwanted side effects
One major reason people are fat is because restaurants, diners, grocery stores are now selling processed food that makes people fat, culture is advocating over eating, people are deprived of information on how to eat and cook healthy meals, poor people cannot afford to buy healthy meals, living costs are a lot higher than they were 50 years ago, and children grow up eating junk food and don't realize these foods are not NORMAL parts of a staple die. What we need are laws about food, taxes for companies that don't sell healthy food, education on what to eat and where and this fat epidemic will slowly subside.
Fat acceptance won't help lower our country's obesity epidemic (while shaming probably has a similar effect). Denial that you are overweight and need to trim off a few extra pounds can be a sign of or lead to deeper mental health problems. Accepting a heroin addict's lifestyle is called enabling and fat acceptance enables our country to be an unhealthy one.
I'm not a fitness freak and refuse to go to a gym, but I take care of myself nonetheless.
Ah, @theperfectdater apparently did not watch the documentary called "Fed Up". The problem is not just lack of exercise, it is sugar addiction. Processed food in the west always contains 4 different types of sugar merely to support its lack of fat. It is a health epidemic, a concern.
So I voted A). People shouldn't be accepted for being fat just because they are fat... (Although quite obviously, bullying them solves nothing as well). But more importantly, they shouldn't accept being fat either - they need a better diet, without the sodas and without the sugary shit.
It's a double-edged sword as far as I'm concerned.
One the one hand, body positivity and the escalation of the American female teenager's already fragile self-esteem can be great, wonderful things. We need more of that, the idea that beauty can be found in a myriad of different body types.
On the other hand, teaching people that obesity is ok and that good health is not something worth striving for is very dangerous. The greatest threat to America's national security is the epidemic of obesity, hands down.
So yeah, we absolutely need to teach people and children body positivity, and we need to eradicate the notion that only certain looks and body measurements are capable of being attractive. We also need to work on promoting good health and nutrition too, though.
I think people should be cool to the individuals, but we shouldn't embrace obesity on a societal level. From the mood issues bad diet causes to higher medical costs to premature deaths - it's just not good for anyone.
The problem is that the food industry today is like cigarettes in the 60s. Deadly, sneaky and addictive.
Honestly, I like it a hell of a lot better than the old way of thinking in America which was "shame everyone to do what you want them to do"
The fat acceptance movement has nothing to do with fat acceptance. It's tied to a much larger accepting people for what they want to do movement.
This is why divorce has become acceptable and choosing to work as a woman has become acceptable and yeah fatness too.
I feel like Americans (and British.. Westerners in general I think) are moving towards a much more acceptable society as a whole and I think that's a really good thing.
Everyone should learn to love their bodies no matter what shape or size they are. It's important for people to have self-esteem and not feel insecure about their bodies, but we should never normalize overweight or obese people and tell them that it's okay to be fat. It's unhealthy and costs our government billions in medical care for diseases that could have been prevented with a proper diet and some exercise. If you really love your body, then that means feeding it the right food and exercising in order to give your body exactly what it needs to live a long healthy life.
Fat people are unhealthy and unattractive, fat acceptance movements won't change this. However they won't normalise being fat either, since it is already normal. Overall I don't think fat acceptance makes any difference in most cases, the severe lack of self discipline and personal responsibility in our society is what we need to challenge.
I probably wouldn't care if others wanted to waste their lives being fat but, since I live in a country with a socialist healthcare system, other people's inability to look after themselves is costing me money, it makes me so angry knowing my money is taken from me to fund other's laziness and stupidity.
I don't think weight should be anything to be bullied about or condemned for. Weight is weight, has nothing to do with who you are as a person.
But calling fat "curvy" and thinness = starvation is simply ignorant.
How about instead of encouraging a certain size, we simply encourage fitness? Everyone looks better when fit and in shape no matter their body shape or size. And lots of thin people are skinnyfat, so that would encourage them to get up and get fit too, not just thicker people.
I think too many people want to make excuses to be fat and lazy. I've known fat people who've said they've done everything and they've done all these diets and exercises and that but usually they're full of shit, and all they do is make excuses not to exercise then eat pizzas and chips and all sorts of junk food.
It's not just in America, it's everywhere and is extremely harmful to the overall health of the world's population.
Fat acceptance is an absolute disgrace and if your are responible for being fat without having an already existing health problem that causes you to be obese, you should bloody be ashamed of yourself.
Huge health problem... could be the reason of the end of man kind...
I don't think it's right to discriminate anyone by anything, be it size, color, intelligence or whatever, but I also do not condone someone applauding or encouraging something that can be life threatening... It's preposterous on some level. ... Sure if you wanna be fat, so be it, be fat... but why go out and make a "movement" of acceptance worldwide? Seems ridiculous.
I can care less about their opinion. They want to be "accepted" they should become active and stop asking to be in a separate category because they are too lazy or weak willed to get off their asses.
Cowardly peasants if you ask me and society would be better off without.
Note: This has to do with people who feel there should be a "movement" and not for those who are simply overweight be it from injury, pregnancy or the like.
this expresses my thoughts
I dont care. Its their life and who am I to judge anyway? Do i think its gross? Hell yea. But ots not my life neither my health so if theyre happy then whatever. People shouldn't be shamed and put into categories
We should accept them for who they are and this acceptance movement is a good idea. They deserve to be accepted too. They're also people.
I feel it is giving people justification to be heavy , without discrimination but at the same time I feel they should really make an effort to work out and watch food portion.
D) I really don't care.
If fat people wanna feel good about being fat, let them. They are only harming themselves.
Depends on your view. If your looking at from a dating and relationship point of view, then I agree, they should be accepted as people just like everyone else. But from a health and fitness point of view, it shouldn't be tolerated.
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