We should tax the living shit about people who dont do them, because vaccination only works if EVERY single citizen of a country is vaccinated. Vaccination is 50% protection of people and 50% genocide of a virus, as long as not everybody is not vaccinated virusses cannot be genocided so a considerate amount of protection falls away because some people dont want to protect themselves and so they form a potential danger for other people.
Ofcourse depending on how contraction of the virus works (through air, sneezing, sex, etc.) The protection can fall away partially or even fully. Some virusses such as HPV does not pose a direct threat to you but it can be bad in the long term. So if not everyone is vaccinated it would not form a direct threat to society, but still it would be better to vaccinate everyone, but we can't limit peoples freedom like that so they must compensate by paying for the health costs of the victims of the surviving virus which they were not vaccinated against should it form a direct threat to society.
I mean if im not vaccinated and i make a person sick because of the choice i made then i should pay for that persons health costs as well, thats only common sense.
@Red_Arrow vaccines are not 100% effective which means that you can makeca vaccinated person sick. Vaccines help but some people may still get sick. These are people with weaker immune systems like people that have another disease already.
That everyone should have the choice to vaccinate or not. If we allowed thw government to force us to pump our childrens bodies full of God knows what, that's a scary place to be.
I think you SHOULD vaccinate with the basics, however anything newer I would avoid because we don't know much about them yet. What happens 10 years down the road?
I'm not sure that there are any newer ones right now, just if that happened. I might be wrong, but I feel like years ago they were pressing me to have my daughter vaccinated for HPV and it was still so new (or so I thought, I was young,18) and we skipped that one.
There is a difference between "we" don't know much about them and "you" don't know much about them. The mechanism of action of vaccines is one of the most well known things in medicine. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to not vaccinate.
@guy532 I never said to NOT vaccinate. What I said was if it were something new I would be hesitant. There is nothing wrong with questioning one and how it will play out down the road. Do you know much about medicine/practices/procedures? Look at birth control and how they are fine one day and being sued the next. The same way with medications, and procedures. Believe me, I'm very much a supporter of vaccinations. All of my kids have had them. I said 2 things: IF we reached a point where the govrnment made them mandatory I think thats a scary place to be and IF they came out with something fresh I would like to research it, amd give it a few years to see how it plays out.
Im with you i mean, h1n1, swine flu, i asked the doctor about them when they came out (he's old school, would still make house calls if he could) and he told me they should only be vaccinating patients with terminal illness with these new vaccines, he doesn't even give flu/pneumonia shots to people my age because our bodies can still fight it off
They are beneficial. We have all but eradicated diseases that plagued mankind, and that have caused countless lifelong problems for people that were afflicted by them. We are now seeing a rise in these illness that were once eradicated, this is due to the decrease in vaccinations amongst the civilian population. The worst part is they put children at risk, who may be too young to receive vaccinations. An example, is the woman who brought he child. who was infected with mumps, to a daycare full of children who were too young to receive the mumps vaccine. If this dumb woman would have vaccinated her kids she wouldn't have put these other children at risk. I don't think a vaccination should be given based on one's own volition. I think it should they should be mandatory, and those who refuse should be fined.
As a med student, the only reason people don't want to vaccinate is due to pure ignorance. Once people are educated on exactly how vaccines work, most of the time they have a positive outlook on them. Not vaccinating is a huge health hazard, not only for the individual not being vaccinated but also the entire community.
Vaccines are one of the greatest achievements in public health there has ever been. Huge numbers of lives have been saved (probably too numerous even to know the number) because of mass vaccination against diseases that -- only a relatively short period of time ago -- killed or maimed people as just the normal course of events.
I think children and adults should be vaccinated. If not, people die of things that could have been prevented if they were vaccinated.
And for those who still believe vaccines cause Autism: Vaccines do NOT cause Autism. The Autism, which was already developing, becomes more pronounced and the signs start emerging when the child is around 1 or 2. This time is when the first vaccines are given. It is purely a correlation, not a causation.
I think it's a prevention and a defends towards dangerous diseases. Medical expert and scientist worked so hard to come up with that, so it's frustrating some of ignorant just against it just bcoz some minority "google and conspirator theories researches". More annoying are some of them are using religion to against it, which is for me, stupid and ridiculous.
I'm like.. Why.. whyyy don't they ignore science and biology subjects in the school?
Vaccinations are just dead virses. For example the flu virus they inject the dead virses that creates protection so you won't have the flu virus. Those antibodies will protect from that certain strain of that virses.
well if you want your children to enjoy all those interesting illnesses that are basically nonexistent for the rest of the civilized world, go forth and not do it xD
They protect us from various illnesses that at one point in time could've killed us. I don't see why people are so afraid of vaccinations. They were created to keep us healthy.
Small pox vaccines where laced with cancer cells so I dont think anti vaccine folks are crazy for feeling the way they do. How do i feel? skeptic , id do my research before giving my kid anything.
My first response to this was to wonder what the heck you are on! I am guessing that you are confusing thoughts based on new research that uses genetically modified Smallpox vaccine to attack and control, perhaps cure, cancer. That is certainly NOT lacing vaccine with cancer cells.
@Red_Arrow No, Im talking about when vaccines for small pox where first given out they where laced with cancer cells. I thought everyone knew this i saw this in a documentary in highschool for a class.
@Red_Arrow lol no offense. google isn't a good indicator to find anything. Have you not heard that they no have results for hillarys health and much of her email leaks. lol google allows you to see what they want you to see
What she has said about them: “If you ask a parent of an autistic child if they want the measles or the autism, we will stand in line for the fucking measles.” “Time magazine’s article on the autism debate reports that the experts are certain ‘vaccines don’t cause autism; they don’t injure children; they are the pillar of modern public health.’ I say, ‘that’s a lie and we’re sick of it.’” “Moms and pregnant women are coming up to me on the street going, ‘I don’t know what to do’… And I don’t know what to tell them, because I am surely not going to tell anyone to vaccinate. But if I had another child, there’s no way in hell.”
Now she is trying to mend her anti-vaccine reputation. Sounds a lot like listening to Trump.
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