@inspired by recent post on plus sized women in bikinis
{pics from my own swim wear last summer... sorry I didn’t understand zooming cropping and marking🤦♂️😬 bit I’ve he sent since ☝️😅}{ I WORE this mast summer to SWIM in 99F temp to cover scars that were not of my doing}{This with BLACK TIGHTS same temp 99F }Many answers were in my opinion self centered and and unrealistic.” I don’t want to see it so it is wrong”.
The illogic often being “ If our of shape, should not be seen.
Dont look? 🤔👀🤷♀️
Do you think I want to see a strangers butt cheeks in my face? I surely do not. Solution- I just don’t stare bc I don't know what I’ll see and do not want want to find out. Problem. Solved.
I’m just wondering... for ex A burn victim is fit in shape thin but you find their burns unsightly, do you say they should not leave their house?
I’m guessing you would not say this, most likely not THINK it... likely, if reasonably polite, will avoid staring. If you are enlightened you will be ale to look and see a person not scars.. few people will say “stay home forever. Maybe extreme narcissists 🤷♀️
So seriously, why can’t you do the same for people in Bikinis... Do you seriously think anyone not perfect -in your opinion- should walk around in a tent?
bikinis are cooling. That’s a big motivator -not simply showing off. why shouldn’t a large person be cool. No one knows why anyone is in the shape they are in snd who cares anyhow it’s not your body.
(let alone the fact being large doesn’t mean you will look bad. Inversely being thin doesn’t mean you will look good.)
Swim wear should be primarily about swimming. What kind of world Is it when where attire comes before the activity you are dressed for.
I think this seve dependence on aesthetic is spiritually bankrupt and 💯 demoralizing.
I can’t claim superior there bc I tend to avoid showing my body when I swim due to scars. Length I go to - it’s absurd.
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I think people should wear what they like and I genuinely mean that. Not just saying it to feel better or look good.
I say people should wear what they like but I do not believe it.
I think anyone I find unattractive , should wear a tent or stay home forever.
I am unhappy with my body and I don’t go out.
I’m unhappy with my body but I go out and live my life.
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... But I certainly will not condemn anyone with courage to wear what they comfortable in.
And honestly what do you want people to wear -A moo moo? There is very little diff between a one piece and a bikini. In both cases skin is still shown, body is still seen.
I think what is deep down in this attitude is I dont think certain people should be allowed to go to my swim area. Which is really the kind of thinking that when promoted, gets us into world wars. Bc it’s sociopathic = dangerous.
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It’s as if there is no shame button with some people. Moral accountability in my opinion, is not simply not saying what you think out loud, but having the self awareness and moral fiber to actively monitor and control how sick your thinking is allowed to go. Even just Internally, where no one but you can see it. Thoughts are often prelude to action. What and how we think of each other matters. I find it disturbing how dehumanized People READ...
I wonder Do people THINK the Way they TYPE ☝️
What is the deal with people judging bodies at the pool- just another area of life. Are all imperfect people supposed to wear tents ⛺️ everywhere 🤨?
I've already spoken in length about your scars so you know what I think of them and I will won't sound like a broken record.
That being said I'll tell you something I discovered very recently. See I was playing wheelchair basketball (A team is allowed 4 healthy players) and during the games I met people with all kinds of physical problems. Many were missing limbs, burn marks, and other things that had them either in chairs or with prosthetics that they would take off before playing. But the one thing they all had in common was heart. And they used that heart to kick our asses on the court.
So I realized that we are all freaks in our own way. Some more visible that others but in the end the difference is not that great once you take the time to get to know the person. Now sure not everyone sees it that way but that's no reason not to live life. These people they didn't care what others think they just wanted to play basketball and weren't about to let what's missing stop them instead they turned what's there into all powerful tools. And the result was just Beautiful.
Keep in mind that's an extreme case and on a beach if you're a bit too fat or a bit too skinny or have a few marks on your body you don't need immense will power to enjoy yourself all you need to know is that there is people who have it much worse and yet are making more of it than you as long you let circumstances dictate and limit your life.
First, I think the swim suit in the second photo is really cute. Second, I admire your thought processes. Third, I voted A. I absolutely oppose inhibiting people. Some people have definite failings when it comes to personal taste. "Attention Walmart shoppers." There are things that I would rather NOT see. But I have a magical ability to look away if I want to. It's natural for people to people watch and to judge other's appearances. You can't do anything about that. But in the end, people have a right to go out, enjoy themselves, and ignore the judging eyes of others.
Thank you I think it’s fine but I wore it right TIGHTS
If that’s fine too well Then I’m very glad to hear it lol im always see sawing between awkward bc of 1 or awkward Bc of 2 😛
Hmm Judging is I don't know I think very value dependent like I’m naturally going to judge a politicians predilection for trying to solve economic catastrophes through war
But someone in a h string or a chubby surfer me in crazy help bottoms 😛 🤷♀️ There’s no objective requirement for discernment here... I think an argument for natural tendency to live and met life can equally be made
Kind of where my thinking was headed... human beings Seem to naturally have all kinds of contradictory ways of asserting themselves in the works internally and externally... which I think means we have control. And the fact we can choose to place energy in judging stuff that has no impact on really anything is disturbing
but the main problem I had was the idea people think aesthetics should trump - well life basically.
The argument is well stay in shape then wear what you want but I don’t think attitudes are diff if you just have some disorder. Using morality to justify preference is what bothers me.
I’m going to try this post again tomorrow bc I definitely was not precise.
I can chew gum and walk ; but I can’t mow a thorn bush and write a coherent post 😎🤓
I was heavy for many years and have lost a lot of weight but am still self conscious of my fat ass so I don't wear anything more revealing than I must. I wore a suit in high school for GAA swimming and people were getting their harpoons out and ready whenever I got in the pool. I don't know if scars, depending on severity, are any worse than cellulite and vericose veins. Here is what I would wear to help hide my waist. Of course I don't have any burns or scars or I may wear tights too.
You have the right to wear whatever we want, in exchange, we have the right to judge you. If you don't want to be judged cover the parts of your body that would be questionable. I wished everyone was the same size back then tbh, I'm tired of this stop judging me nonsense. This is such a Western thing, if you were in an Asian country, you would get blasted. Criticism is there so you don't eat like a pig and put limits on yourself.
I do judge people who are overweight or obese at the beach. They look fucking terrible, however, my opinion of them doesn't matter. If they are enjoying themselves and having a good time, they shouldn't care about the judgement of others.( Assuming they aren't doing anything wrong) If they do care about people judging their bodies, they should stay home until they overcome their insecurity.
Everyone judges, its what humans do. We discriminate and judge. A lot of people lie and say they dont, but its impossible not too. Its how people understand the world. Expecting people to not judge is a ridiculous notion.
I am wondering though if the moralizing is an excuse to feel righteous about passing judgement on people just trying to swim.
We dk why anyone looks the way they do.
For example. There are places where kids are force fed from when they are young so they will be fat. Even if they lose weight their body will be wrecked. And if you knew that I doubt you’d feel differently about seeing them in a bikini.
Would you feel differently? You’re looking at the same thing.
What’s the point in judging a body.. you said It’s what humans do. Humans have Acute perception snd make judgements but we choose where to place that judgement.
Why is that a worthwhile place for you to place judgement esp since you dk the situation
Oh I’m not trying to lay into you sorry if it seems that way I’m just trying to understand the motive. Judgement involves intention not simply reaction so there is choice involved. So why choose that in particular 🤷♀️?
There is a million reasons why someone might be fat. There is a million reasons why someone might feel insecure. I can try to understand why people look or feel the way they do, but its too much
I will judge someone on their looks, but I won't mistreat them are call them fatty. I will quickly look, judge and carry on.
They should just embrace their weight, do something to make themselves feel secure and then swim. They can't stop people from judging, but they can change the way they feel about it.
Lol your pics are so out of place for this question lol you are fit, although can say you have put swimwear so it would be reasonable.
If someone is blocking my view I can't just unlook it although I might judge in my mind but I am not the one going and talking to them and make them feel bad unless they are just rolling over to near to me like putting sand on me unintentionally I give 0 thought as what they wearing its a beach wear and if they like they wear it but they should not completely display it infront of me like there should be distance and I have no complaints it's there life let then enjoy they are not some deformed creatures lol just have more skin that's it
My point is I cover my body bc of things I dont want to look at and don’t want people to see.
It isn’t about being fit. People are too wrapped up in aesthetic — that was why they are relevant... to point out Morality isn’t what drives the judgement that’s just a cover ( in my opinion ) for preference
OR when it is it is illogical bc any person can simply not pay attention to things that don’t concern them
people tell me to not worry about scars ignore anyone who cares yet they will tell an over weight person to cover up... in both cases a person can just ignore people so why all the venom toward plus sizes
And you are comparing a lump of fat with scars it's like comparing a car with motor cycle, mostly it's our inhibitions you know that what we don't like about ourselves and that gives powers to others like we give them a button to exploit if we stayed true to ourself being fat short of something else wouldn't matter
The people who tell to cover up those things also tend to say cover up body to everyone bc they have some views specifically related to different beliefs its not specifically restricted to overweight
If you had thought in you'd head now I ask you why do you think if being fat is OK not to cover the body why you think that you need to cover scars if you find an answer to this question then you might find an answer to the original question, so tell me what'd makes you think that you wanna hide scars but it's ok show like lump of jiggly jelly
Implement fat tax, take away obese people's access to organ transplants, and charge them extra for the burden they put on the healthcare. Then I'll consider not shitting on them.
But as it is they are, objectively, a bigger burden on the society than smokers, druggies and alcoholics, and not only that, they are being accepted, glorified, promoted and coddled with bullshit, even though theirs is now the deadliest condition known to mankind.
Fat acceptance is idiocracy, these people are pathetic, they are killing themselves off and the economy alongside them because they can't stop putting more burgers down their throats.
Ok but are you saying they shouldn’t be at the beach?
There’s no way of knowing why a person is heavy or if they are in the process of losing. You can be shaming someone who was literally forced to get fat. Like screwed in the ankles tightened if they do t say five pounds of butter a day.
So what if I don't know? I will be right in the majority of the cases. I don't care if I misjudge someone, if my judgement doesn't apply to them, they shouldn't even have a reason to get offended in the first place because I'm clearly not judging them.
I don't get offended if a woman says that all men cheat, or that "all men are the same", because I know those things aren't true about me in particular and I'm certainly not going to defend those to whom those generalizations do apply, so why should I care.
I don't care if they are at the beach, but they definitely have to look at their body and dress in accordance with it. There is a saying- "dress for the body you have, not for the body you want", it exists for a reason.
A fat woman in bikini is no different from a yokel at Walmart with an exposed ass crack, or a street thug with his undies pulled down to his knees. Do you apply the same "don't look" rhetoric in those cases? Or do you judge those people?
We live in a society, and when we are sharing public space, we have responsibility towards others to maintain at least the basics of common decency.
People like to believe that appearance is a function of morality, that aesthetics is a form of social good, that they have a right to have the world not show them anything they don't like, and that BMI is an accurate measurement of general health. None of these things are true.
But actual morality requires introspection, and confronting the possibility that you might be wrong. That's too hard for the narrow-minded, so they cling to the mindset of what they call "moral superiority" and the rest of us all "being a judgmental asshole".
I chose "I'm unhappy with my body and I don't go out" because that is mostly the case. I used to be blind without my glasses so it didn't matter what others wore to swim in, I couldn't see :)
On the odd occasion I do go swimming (maybe once a year, if that) I just wear some trunks and think people should wear whatever feels comfortable. Swimming or sunbathing is a personal thing, not a fashion show. If you think people are fat and ugly, that's your problem, not mine.
@ultamega is a moron. So, there's that anyway. To answer your question, you've created a false dichotomy in order to make a point that isn't a correct one-- people who are grossly fat and overweight don't need to wear a "tent," just because wearing bikinis or whatever is gross and hurts the eyes of everyone around them. It's also a logically fallacious argument to say "they can wear whatever they want" uhhh... yeah duh, they CAN wear it; their literal ability to wear a thing isn't at issue. It's whether they SHOULD, not whether they CAN. And succinctly, no, they shouldn't. What should happen is we should stop eating fucking bullshit all the time and killing ourselves with Type II diabetes, and exercise. It's not hard.
Just be confident and comfortable in what you wear and others should just mind their own f'n business.
If a guy is a 3xl, a thong might be more comfortable than long board shorts that cut off circulation to his legs. Same for pasties on a girl that might have an endocrine disorder.
Their situations are not my problem and I have no business judging.
Yea people are so judgmental about others and then wonder why people make themselves crazy trying to be skinny. Maybe if people stayed in their own lane, worrying about their own shortcomings instead of pointing out what they think others' are, it wouldn't be so bad. But that will never happen...
People should wear what they like and Women / Girls should not be shamed by others for what they wear and what their figures are... I think all girls look gorgeous in my eyes I don't care about girls scars... I care about her loving heart she has inside I love to fill a Special Ladies body next to mine as we lay and cuddle I know in the heat it's hard but if there is A/C then things won't be too bad
Ok i do believe that people have the right to wear what they want however my big problem is with the body positive movement is when obese and morbidity obese people try to convice others than it's healthy to be at that size.
Well I mean do what you want, I mean i don't mind cuts or scars since its relatable and understandable, it's just when there's someone who's like really morbidly obese I'm like yikes, I don't say anything tho and go live your life but damn lol
🤔 What if it’s not relatable? What If someone is in great shape and has a foot sticking out of Their stomach and it’s green and brown and really unpleasant?
lmao WHAT, honestly if I saw that I'd have to get a picture honestly, a foot sticking out, not to mention it's somehow green and brown which would be biologically impossible lol, unless it's an alien or something
I mean you do you but I think if anything that'll turn heads out of curiosity
I don't get it either. I just ignore the unattractive women in swimsuits and focus on the attractive women in swimsuits. Plus unattractive women wearing swimsuits just leads to more attractive women wearing swimsuits which is a win!
I am relatively fit so maybe I don't relate? But isn't it... on the people judging... and not you... the ball falls on their vourt and maybe it's more a reflection of them and not you... if you look unhealthy maybe it's benificial...
The most desirable women on earth are BBW's and SSBBW's. Everyone has their preference and that's all good. It's when you start talking hurtful hateful crap because you don't want to have a world that celebrates a plethora of different human beings that we will do our very best to silence you.
no but social control mechanisms are there to help people improve. if you're fat, you should work at reducing your body mass. if you're underweight, you should increase your body mass. it's just common sense and general health.
It is immaturity. I live at the beach and I see "perfect" bodies and I see the opposite. As long as the people are not assaulting anyone's person or property why should I care?
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