When I did psychological testing last year that said I had an IQ of 76, an adaptive behavior score of 57 which is pretty low and mild autism. This doesn’t seem right at all and doesn’t match my current abilities. I spoke to a laywer and they said I’m very high functioning and these scores don’t seem to match my current abilities. I did a telehealth opinion another one this year on prosper health and they said I do not meet the criteria for autism and my IQ of 76 doesn’t seem right at all and my adaptive behavior score is way higher than 57. So I am doing neurophysiological testing next week to see the truth about what I really do have. I’ve shown better judgement through therapy and I’m able to have good decision making capacity. Why would they not be truthful about my evaluation last year? Does this seem fishy to you? This isn’t malpractice by the way because I tried to call Lawyers about this situation and it didn’t count as malpractice. What do you think? Many people say people like me are a burden to society because of my disability and it takes a lot of energy for people to put up with me to be independent. Am I screwed for life? Or you don’t think I’m that bad as I seem? I write and communicate just fine and am independent and can live on my own and have healthy relationships one day and live a normal life so there is no way these test scores are correct. I talk, look, and act normal.
They have no obvious incentive to lie or fake the results. It does not appear to be malpractice from what you shared.
If it seems obviously wrong to you and others, take another test.
Autism is not defined by your IQ or some adaptive behaviour score. People with Autism are as likely to score very high as very low.
It should come down to other things. Like stimming or not, focusing on an interest or not, how you socialize and interpret things.
But the scores you mention are not the basis for an autism diagnosis at all. They may be part of a support claim or such. Not a diagnosis.
It is very well known that you can go to another clinic or psychologist and get an entirely different assessment. Psychology, while a professional field, ultimately is a "Yeah she seemed X based on my observations and the day we met" area of study.
Basically as a very soft science psychologists are, within reason, allowed to be wrong from time to time. It does not count as malpractice but the challenges of the field.014 Reply- 1 d
Yeah true so why is my IQ suspiciously low? I wouldn’t be able to write well if that’s low. That isn’t malpractice as well?
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Your ability to write well and your, for example, spatial intelligence ( turning objects in your head to visualize the other sides ) are not by neccessity linked.
It is true that intelligence often comes as a bundle. However, especially in the case of something like autism, there are strong and weak points.
Do you recall what type of questions you got on the IQ test? We could narrow down which intelligence they tested for.
Linguistic, reading and writing, intelligence is rarely tested for although it is acknowledged as a valid form. - 1 d
I don’t remember the questions honestly but it was counting numbers backwards and forward which I did good in and they tested my speed on learning and asked me simple questions and then hard at the end and they did the block puzzle from easy to hard. I did good on that. What do you think? Why would I score so low if I did well on those skills? So suspicious!!
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So we have some logical intelligence and some spatial intelligence. That seems the norm.
Notice that they did not test for linguistics. Your linguistic IQ might still be low, normal or high.
You could naturally just take a few other IQ tests. As long as you do a reputable one. I believe Mensa Norway has one that is often used. Although in normal line with Mensa it is going to be fairly simple problems and usually just pattern recognition.
Doing these tests will not prove or invalidate your Psychology testing. An online test does not count but it can be indicative. If for example you score 100-ish on thr Mensa Norway one (or higher!) it would provide a very solid basis that your in-person testing was not an accurate representation of you as a person.
Lastly let me just repeat two important points.
1. IQ is just processing speed and how much is processed at once. While it often links to other things, with a decent memory and some stubbornness anyone at any IQ level can learn highly complex and impressive skills.
2. IQ is once again a complete nonfactor for Autism. It isn't even a key element for if you qualify for support or not. The key element to Autism is autistic traits. IQ being high or low is not one of them. The key element to if you qualify for aid is if you need aid. Not IQ /EQ.
Let me know how it goes if you do it. Mensa Norway is the only one I can think of in my head with a test. There used to be a good one from Harvard too that measured up to 160. I am however currently blanking on the name. - 1 d
Yeah so it was a different Iq test? Why would they even think I had a mild intellectual disability when I do not? Based on the Iq and the lower then normal adaptive behavior score. Even more suspicious to me. It does not match my true abilities. What do you think?
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I got wordy. Just google up the Norway Mensa Test.
Your scores are indicative of a mild intellectual disability. Them thinking so based on the results is entirely normal. That does not mean the results are accurate. The grading however is. There is no malpractice in their interpretation of the result. There may or may not be flaws in testing itself.
All IQ tests differ. The only ones that count are in person, by professionals. However a proper one done on your own is still going to be highly indicative even if it does not count.
So if you do the one I mentioned (search norway mensa test online, we use Norway because theirs is shared and free. It is the same as any mensa test) and you get about 100 (average) that is roughly two standard deviations away from what you got in the previous tests. Just think of it as every 15 points being called something else. So if 85 is a little dumb, 100 is average and 115 is a little smart. In effect if you are 15 points or further away that would basically strongly suggest that one of the tests was highly flawed and fully justify a second one. In your case 90 proves them wrong.
Again. I will repeat this. Your IQ is not a core element of any autism diagnosis. It might be useful if you are applying for benefits in which case your lower score is Good for you. But autism is decided based on your experienced difficulty in settings not your IQ. - 22 h
For example I'm super smart. I see another person. Hear them say something. I mentally note the inflection shift. I make a mental note of their posture being guarded and a slight slint of the lips. I then reason that based on my frame of reference this person is feeling insecure, ill at ease, angry, sad, so on. That would be a high emotional intelligence but also a very high autistic score.
Normal humans do not notice all that. In fact hyper-attention to detail is a rather neurodivergent trait. Normal people do not have to learn to watch for patterns, that just happens. Autism is about the steps you take to a result differing, not the result being wrong.
The reason autism is a negative is that it isn't built for this society. If studying was about going crazy for 24 hours, study like a maniac without sleep and then recover for a week? People with ADHD + Autism would be superpowered.
But society is made so we show up every day. Do a lazy half assed effort and come back tomorrow. This does not work at all for ADHD and Autistic individuals. So they burn out and struggle. But if we change the rules of engagement, they'd be the ones doing great.
Learning to know ourselves is important. Your IQ score is mostly irrelevant. Don't get hung up on that part of your testing. - 13 h
How do you know my scores are indicators or mild intellectual disability? You did the test for me?
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I did not. You shared the outcome. The numbers are the test result. That is where they get the mild disability from.
Anyone can make that assessment because its just a " This number means that " situation.
Like I said, the numbers do say that. However I of course do not know if the numbers are right or if the test was conducted correctly.
Interpreting the result, which may be right or wrong, is easy though. - 7 h
Yeah but the number is wrong and they made me worse than I seem. What are my next steps? There is no way I’m mild intellectual disabled.
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Step one is that you verify it yourself. Here: https://test.mensa.no/Home/Test/en-GB
This is one of the best, free and online, tests for IQ available. Do it. Share your score. Lets find out how different it is from the other results.
After that if the difference is significant you look for a second diagnosis. You always have the right to oppose and ask for a second one. But that will still be more believable with something to back you up.
Do the test. Tell me the result. - 6 h
Ok I will!
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I took it and got below a 100. It has nothing to do with intellectual disability. According to ai, No, scoring below 100 on that test has nothing to do with having an intellectual disability.
Scoring below 100 on the Mensa Norway test is completely normal for the vast majority of people who take it. That test is specifically designed to be extremely difficult, and it is calibrated to screen for high-IQ individuals (people who score 130 or higher to qualify for Mensa).
Here is why just about everyone who "guesses" or takes it cold ends up below 100:
It’s a High-Ceilings Test: The test doesn't measure an average or below-average range accurately; its entire purpose is to separate the top 2% of the population from everyone else. If you aren't used to abstract matrix reasoning puzzles and you are guessing against a tight 25-minute timer, hitting a low score is expected.
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1 dThis isn't a conspiracy or malpractice.
These scores are always uncertain. Noisy, if you like. They aren't precise measurements like your height or weight.
Adaptive behaviour probably also was someone's assessment. Someone else may have a different assessment.
Getting a second assessment is a good idea. Two assessment will be more accurate together on average than any one assessment.
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1 dYour parents should have been more careful, they shouldn't have taught you the words "malpractice" and "false diagnosis". They did the real malpractice to us.
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What do you mean by this?
1 dWell. Get retested and see what happens.
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I will
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Ok. Good.
Anonymous(45 Plus)1 dGet another opinion on Monday
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I’m going to but no one believes me!
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Then what can I do?
Opinion Owner1 dDo an IQ test on Monday and see for yourself what the score is you don’t need to go to a head shrink for that dancer
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