Have you heard of "intimacy anorexia? https://youtu.be/ZhuDwVSKhbU
If my wife denies me sex, is she cheating (I mean on the marriage vows or contract)?
Have you heard of "intimacy anorexia? https://youtu.be/ZhuDwVSKhbU
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Trending & News Ask her why look at what you're doing wrong. If all your doing is begging, watching porn, treating her bad sexually a woman will deny you sex. You have to learn to live without sex but also respect your partner sexually. There is no way of knowing if they are cheating. There would be more signs than that, and that also includes a person's sexual background and mindset plus beliefs.
1. Do either of you believe in premarital sex, porn, masturbating, lust, etc? Have an extensive sexual history. Chances are EXTREMELY high. Especially if you never changed as people.
2. Have either of you talked about sexual expectations and beliefs before? If not, you better have the talk that should have been done LONG AGO before even THINKING about hopping in bed again.
3. Understand that even if she has sex with you, it could be out of obligation, not love. Understand your partner before you end up hurting your marriage. If they are drawing away from you something is wrong.
4. Do you have sexual practices, fantasies, fetishes, etc, and watching porn, etc that are EFFECTING your PARTNER? IF so, STOP! You are hurting your partner and they grow to hate having sex with you. What are your sexual beliefs, hers, and how do you and or her view sex? Are you both having sex in a healthy MANNER?
5. Do you have a healthy marriage other than sex? Is your sex life healthy? Do they have health problems? Do you? How are you two mentally? Spiritually, emotionally, psychologically? Have any of you dealt with abuse? Did you have recent fights and arguments? You need to find this out.
6. She is tired from work, school, kids, etc?
7. How do you treat each other with intimacy? NOT SEXUAL. I mean kissing, hugging, general touch? Is she receptive? Are you?
8. Your personality type, hers?
There is something going on and you need to figure out yourself first before you look at your spouse. Because you can be pushing too much sex, and she may not be happy. You need to slow down and respect that if your not. NOT expecting and then your not treating her right or hearing her. Because if you get angry, if you threaten to look else where, divorce, etc, she will shut down and may God forbid go elsewhere, or want a divorce. SLOW DOWN. Be compassionate and try to figure you out first. Don't argue with me, listen, slow down, stop with the marriage vows, or contract nonsense. Either you love your wife or you using her for sex and you need to honest with yourself and stop treating her like a human sex toy or she will deny you. Simple as that. You cannot force your spouse to have sex with you.
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Really? Love doesn't look like that buddy. If love was there, she would want sex with you. She doesn't want sex with you, because the love isn't there. If she cannot give you sex, it says yours only there for one thing and one thing only: SEX. And you need to be honest with yourself. And your not. Because if you can like the sex she gives, it means you love what anyone can give you.
Sex comes from WITHIN. It is not forced it is natural, should be pure, authentic, and loving. And when you're not treating your partner sexually well, they don't want sex anymore. That's why I asked you about what I had asked and it was extensive. You have yet to talk about that. So it says something right there you know or is guilty of something. And your paying for it now. Until you answer all of those questions. My answer still stands. Yet, I have no doubt your just horny and using that as "love" when it's not.
Talk to the guys who've been into long term relationships here... and how women have an ability to fall out of love, or turn asexual over time...
For a guy, good sex leads to falling in love with a woman.
Asker, Let me stop you right there. That is Bullshit. You don't know how to love a woman, don't want to and it's clear you shouldn't be married. Your only intersted in sex. Not the woman you say you love. It is not for men. There are men who are not like you, values their marriages with their wives and never pressure for sex. For them they want to love their wives, which leads to what: SEX.
There is no such thing as falling out of love. Or a sexual person. yoU EITHER LOVE HER or you DON'T. From your responses, you don't. Because if good sex leads to that, how come SO MANY women are heartbroken, used and ABUSED? y friends had that, men still left. Had husbands like that, still misreated them. My late mother had that, now she's dead. My sibling who is married have that, her husband is pushing their sons to fornication. You men who think like this caused your own hell.
No. I KNOW these men on here, they are just horny, have no respect for themselves, sleep around, have at some point, picked up women who done the same. Don't want "prudes" want only if they want sex they're way. They don't want to do it God's way. Your forgetting that she is a HUMAN BEING, with thoughts, feelings, emotions, opinions and desires of her OWN. And if your not respecting her, loving her, cherishing her the way SHE REQUEST and NEEDS of you, that's why your not getting SEX. PERIOD. BECAUSE if another man who isn't sexual with her is being her friend, acting like a gentlemen, showing her affection, not being kissing her, but maybe a peck on the cheek, or the kiss of the hand. bringing flowers just because, not expecting anything. Being a shoulder to lean on, holding her, giving her ear. Things you need to be doing more with expectations. And yet you're doing something to draw her away from YOU. And then if she God forbid cheats or whats divorce, you blame the WOMAN whom you made and become ONE FLESH, UNDER GOD and you talk about your vows? Buddy, your the one who is breaking them. Not her.
ANy man who treats me like that is not a man I would DESIRE for a HUSBAND. I do not need any man to try to tell me what I need to do as a wife. I know what 1 Corinthians say, I know what God told me. And I RESPECT MY GOD. And any man who is not inline with what the word of God says is already in trouble and will have hell in his marriage. You need to learn to romance her, love her and relearn about your wife again. As you age a nd get older you are not always the same people, and things changes. That is what marriage is about. Going through those changes TOGETHER. to DEATH DUE YOU APART. Unless God forbid one of you fornicated and committed adultery, you have no rational and logical reason to divorce Unless she just straight-up denies and doesn't care. Then you may have a case. But if this is fixable, talk to her, listen to her, and start being intentional sexually but RESPECT each OTHER. PERIOD. Or have your hand. Otherwise, why did you marry if you can't handle it? It is not for the weak. Welcome to marriage.
It's bizarre to somehow separate love and sex. For a man, sex leads to love. For a woman, love leads to sex. The two are very deeply interconnected.
25 years back, when we met, I was the same person, and she loved the sex! Some 6-7 years into the marriage, she lost her hots. Woman suffering from an acute loss of their libido are real. Even if we don't want to acknowledge this.
If she treats me human and recognises my male need for sex (with ten times as much testosterone as she has), I would love and cherish her for the rest of my life. If not, she's little more than a roommate... there are many women who would give me the latter kind of stimulus and I don't need to marry them for that.
Women have too high expectations, which is why the end up asking: "Where have all the good men gone?"
Is it a sin for a man to need sex? Who judges? Women who have one-tenth of the testosterone levels?
These are multiple arguments, conflicting ones, all thrown into one.
A woman who doesn't understand a man's need for sex makes him miserable.
No. Asker. You just don't like that as a person and you sound like you're only with her because you don't have anything else to do with your life except just that. Have sex and that's it. You don't see how your behavior is making her miserable. You think a woman just don't want to have sex because she just doesn't when she's married and she loves her husband? No she doesn't. The fact that you think that way says you only care about yourself.
The word of God also says that you don't fall time. Since she cannot do that then you live with that. That's not your knee that's just what you really want. Because you don't have nothing else. You think doing all that what going to get you stuff at the end of the day? No it's not. That's your job as a husband. You take care of your wife. You don't need sex. You need to learn to live your life with you wife and do what you got to do. Half some freaking respect or don't have a wife at all.
We are in a middle of a pandemic, we got people that is going through things far worse than what you're going through, and all you can think about is having sex? It just sounds like to me you only think about yourself which is very clear, and no again if you don't need it oh, you don't even know what the heck it really means to be doing what you got to do as a married person. You got to do what you got to do regardless of their is sex in a marriage or not. You are soon to be heading in your fifties. Sex is not going to be the same as if you was my age or even a young adult. You being extremely selfish and you're the reason why you're not getting sex at. Thank God I never had sex, thank God I never been involved with a man, cuz I wouldn't want to be involved with a man like you who treats me that way.
Ma'am, I've been in the "middle of a pandemic" for two and half decades now.
@Asker
"But what do you do about libido loss among women, which is touching pandemic proportions but never gets talked about, as it is "politically inconvenient" to do so?" Asker, you love and cherish each other in these times. It is not a time for that, especially she cannot provide that anymore. She is more and likely heading towards menopause which takes a huge dip at this time. If she is sick, it happens quicker. Especially with cancer and undiagnosed problems. Every woman is not the same. Just like men.
" Lack of sex will make any human act like an animal... when will women realise that? (I say women because it's usually them who have the lower sex drive. But not always...)" BS. I am a virgin, never had sex. My libido is normal as it's always been. No human is an animal. You just lack self-control. There are men who don't do this. This has 0 to do with a low or high libido, it can be controlled. You just don't know how nor do you want to. The fact you assume women usually have any low sex drive is sexist itself. That is not true. We have better control than you. We are not sex-driven.
"Ma'am, I've been in the "middle of a pandemic" for two and half decades now." A normal part of marriage. Nothing new.
"Women should remember that at the start of the relationship..." No that is just you because you have sex before marriage, dabble in porn, and everything else. You messed yourself up. Has nothing to do with us or having a high libido. What's worse, your sexist. Women are not all the same and neither are men. We rather are with men who never done those than guys like yourself who have nothing else but wanting sex. High libido is not the issue. You lack of control and understanding of what sex and love is, IS. There are men who know that. My friends have been married since 18-24 and do not have that issue with their wives and they have children. I have friends who have similar drives and have the same issues with their husbands. My late mother said similar. You don't know to "make love" with your wives. It's just SEX to you. And they grew to hate it or fake it. How do you know she was "happy then" when she was younger 25 years ago? Sounds like she probably was pretending otherwise if she is having sex infrequently but your still getting sex, your the issue if your complaining. It is not the SAME when you reach close to the menopause stage. She is probably pre-meno, which shifts our hormones because the chemical imbalance is OFF. Nutrition diet, etc all are interconnected. I am again a VIRGIN. I understand this, stress, healthy, are all interconnected. All you care about again is sex. I will RATHER be sexless than used. A woman who doesn't feel like it is uncomfortable tells you this regularly and you don't listen. Your interest is simply of your own selfishness. It leaves women miserable, crying upset, and wanting OUT God forbid. As my late mother wanted. She wanted out.
""Taking care" includes providing sex. Specially if you're the only human on the planet who can legally do that..." Not true. it is an intimacy that is organic and happens naturally as I said before. It isn't forced. Your sex life sounds forced. Not any love there. It's all sex and lust that drives your relationship. And that is why you not happy. My friends don't have that and some are Christians. Some are not.
If this is what MEN expect of women sexually. I think God that I am not sexually active, never been touched by a man by consent, or got involved. This VERY scary to know "marriage" is like that. Very scary. Let alone dating. Now I not only am extremely nervous of dating but relationships and marriage too? Marriage, dating, relationships are supposed to be SAFE. Not, if your not sexually pleasing a man he potentially leaves you, berates, or shame you for not giving him anything. Horrible! Men, you'll LIVE! I'm healthier because I never did that. Why would I want a man whose been out there and doesn't sexually respect me? That isn't love. That's lust.
This is how I know you don't know much about women. We don't just LOOSE libido. Your actions, your behavior, stress, depression, unhappiness, abuse, lack of quality of life, work-related stress, school-related stress, spiritually, environmentally, your sexual health, how you have sex, damaging effects psychologically, mentally, emotionally, etc affects a woman. Every time you curse at us, use profanity, make us cry, being fearful, etc messes us up too. It is not just birth control, getting older, etc. It's you. Even for men, but you respond differently. Your more passive-aggressive than women. We withdraw, you avoid. both of us make excuses even if they're rational ones. Society is the biggest one at fault. For telling you having sex all the time is so normal if you don't, you're bad at it, a loser, or useless. No matter who doesn't want sex, you are still married and you have to learn to love each other. That's marriage. You are ONE with that person. Hurt them, you hurt yourself. It's like self-infliction. Never choose a person you cannot take care of. A woman can only give but so much, even when libido is practically gone. That is NOT OUR FAULT! And you shame us for it. What's going happen if she dies in your care, because you act like this? Do you know the ones who will God forbid commit suicide for this is the woman? You don't for not having sex. We do for being inflicted that. You don't have to be inflicted. But you can be forced. We're open, your not. So we deal with both infliction and being forced by rape. That's why throughout history many women died, the men survived and had more wives as replacements.
I highly suggest that you watch this video from Mark Gungor on this situation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jL1l9ZtGC2w
Asker, start having some prayer in your life. Really. How are you going to have feeling connected and your treating your wife like sex solves everything and it doesn't. Prayer solves your marriage woes and you need to start transforming your marriage into a place of love, not lust. Until you do, that is going to remain.
You're ignoring the problem on your end by putting up these videos that have 0 to do with your marriage. Your marriage is based on lust, And now it ran dry. If there was love there it's not running dry. You need your behavior towards your wife. The more you like that the worse it gets. Stop using these as an excuse to deflect the problem and start getting real help. Or God forbid she may be the one who may file the papers because you won't stop. You need to stop, and start praying and ask God for the forgiveness of what you two did, and start doing right.
"It's about feeling wanted, feeling loved, feeling connected." If you wanted that, that's what waiting for marriage is for. To develop that outside of the bedroom before you go into the bedroom. You have yet to say what you're doing for your wife. You get sex every so often. So you are not starved. You just lack control. Start fixing that.
Ma'am, you're making a lot of assumptions. I was a virgin till marriage! She wasn't...
And I do pray.
No!
Did you consider she's not in the mood, or maybe something is wrong? Rather than instantly assume the worse, how about ask her is she okay...
Be romantic, sweet, and willing to listen to what she has to say.
Theoretically this is how it should be, but frankly, it's not so simple.
If you mean she denies you sex over and over and over. Then yes, that is grounds for a divorce! If you mean that “sometimes” denies you sex, then no that’s not quite the same thing.
Sometimes, but on a regular basis... for years together.
Keep in mind that divorce can be very costly for men. And finish them financially and emotionally.
Why should we pay the price on both sides of the pool?
Yeah, I’m definitely not suggesting you what you should or shouldn’t do. I was just trying to answer the question. But if she witholds sex on a regular basis, then yes she isn’t upholding her marriage vows and indeed you can file for divorce “if you wanted to” based on that... that’s all I was trying to say.
What I would do in that situation is this: ask her what are somethings in the marriage that she is unhappy about? Then I would start working hard to improve those things, after I showed her that I’m willing to work in order to improve the marriage. I would bring a few things to her attention that I am unhappy about!
Then if In turn, she is willing to work to improve the marriage, then great!! If she isn’t willing to work to improve the marriage... then it may be time to consider my options...
“Divorce doesn’t have to be as bad as you often hear... most men get divorced after they have made huge mistakes and have no ground to stand on. Plus they don’t even try to fight back out of guilt. If you approach the divorce from the moral high ground, on your own terms and with a good lawyer... it is absolutely possible to get a fair divorce. It’s going to cost you some money there is no doubt but life is short and no one should live an unhappy life”!
Her vows. But one thing you have to think about is why is she doing it.
It's not that she is cheating you have upset her
It up to you to ask what you have done, or not done?
Women going off sex in long term relationships is far more prevalent than we think. If you keep changing partners at short intervals, you probably won't notice this... But that too comes at some other price.
Sorry? Didn't follow your point.
If you keep changing partners.
That means you are not being faithful..
But a woman does not turn off having for nothing..
My first wife had bfs and having sex but she still wanted sex off me.
Like I said you need to have a good chat with your wife.
In her head there is more going on in this.
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What are the terms of the contract?
That marriage implies taking care of each other's sexual needs too. No?
Why is she not doing that?
I don't think it's cheating. There is something definitely wrong if she never wants sex. Like I hear of couples that have sex once a month or less and it makes me cringe cause that just isn't healthy. For there to be a change she needs to be the one to step up and figure out what is wrong. I'm not sure on how you should convince your wife to fix herself without sounding like a dick. I guess going to therapy or something. That is the only advice I can give you.
Thank you for your understanding. Most women tend to get defensive and accusatorial
You'll be surprised how common this is... specially if one is together for 7-8 years or more.
It really sucks. It feels like rejection... and worse.
I've been with my hubby for almost 8 years and we still have a good sex life. Probably 3 times a week. He is difficult to talk into sometimes but I can't settle for any less and I make that known. I really feel for you my husband says no once and I break down. If it happened all the time I don't think I could stay
Nobody is obligated to have sex with you, ever. Deal with it.
There's one person in the world whom I can have sex with legally, and (mostly) without the consequences of rape allegations, disease, "cheating" etc. And you're saying that it's okay if that person also blocks me from sex?
If you have sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex with you it is rape. Every single time. It doesn't matter who that person is or how you know them.
Marital rape (or "rape" within a marriage) is recognised in some parts of the globe, not all.
That doesn't make it okay
No.
Perhaps you need to up your game, or be a better smelling husband?
Wish it were so simple an issue.
No. She has no obligation to keep having sex with you.
Does a man have an obligation to "keep" taking care of the children? Financially?
No he doesn't. But there's a difference between providing for your family and having sex. Your family will starve and die if you or your wife don't earn money to provide and take care. You will not die however from not having sex.
Unless you mean the children are adults, in which case it's entirely reasonable for you to demand they get jobs too.
Emotional Abandonment? The hell is wrong with you! Young men need to be by yourself so y'all don't need no women you don't need to be married at all this is how you going to be thinking. You don't just get married and then expecting something and you be treating women like that. That's not grounds for emotional abandonment on her parts that's grounds for emotional abandonment and neglect on his part!
Marriage is supposed to be mutual. And it requires Mutual balance in a marriage. Since it is not seeming to be mutual on his part, that's why he is not getting sex. Divorcing her because of that was bad enough he doesn't even know what's going on with her says you only taking his side so that way he can get sex elsewhere which is very abusive. You don't do that to people you love. Otherwise you don't love the person you just love sex and that's it.
No, in a way she is obligated to do so. But she is being treated for what I am Gathering like a human sex toy. You start treating a woman like that she is going to stop doing so because you feel like he's not being loved. He not answer no one thing what the heck is going on. He didn't bother to ask her anything from what I'm hearing. He's complaining about what he got to do. A man who is complaining about that is not a man at all. That is a CHILD. And people who behave that way tend to be abusive in their relationships. That's the trick with people like that. They figure if they do all these things for you because they know that's what they're supposed to do anyway, it can hide with them really is going or not only psychologically, but inside of them. Distance from what I am hearing does not sound like a healthy relationship to begin with. He's saying basically the whole relationship in marriage is basically all about sex. Now he can't get the sex anymore he's mad. That's what happens when you don't take the time to truly love your partner.
@btbc92 neither me nor you have the slightest clue what the situation of their marriage is. You don’t know if he has mistreated her in the slightest. I responded assuming that he hadn’t and you responded as if he had.
Yet neither of us know what is actually going on and yes you can absolutely file for divorce if your partner stops having sex with you. It’s subjective and you have to be able to prove that it’s been going on for years. But it happens everyday in this country. Any person with google can look this up.
Oh I know, just by talking to him. Living with a man who thinks the same. That's why it's my late mother was here she would tell you, but she's not because all that stress, 23 years of Hell, 23 years of maybe on not getting divorced, being told you're not a good wife, there are women that are better in bed than you, how he's going to take away his daughter because she's an unfit mother, she probably tell you where abusive. And first of all no I don't have to Google up anything. That is very much mistreatment of how he's behaving. How he Compares what he's doing for her for what she's not doing for him sexually is abuse. You need to get your head straight and you need to get your facts straight. And first of all it has nothing to do about filing for divorce if your partner stop having sex with you. Abuse is abuse. And he sounds abusive as a person. It's not physically definitely emotionally. And actually confirming my suspicions even more, his views about Metal rapist even more disgusting. He thinks he can just do whatever the hell he wants without her consent.
At that point no, anything that he does, is going to fall right back on him and he's the one who's going to lose in court. Because of everything that he's doing to her is abuse. And if she is not able to financially provide for himself, which he or more likely already knows, she's the one that's more likely going to get the bulk of half of everything that you put into. He ain't going to divorce her for that. He just going to make her look bad sexually in the courts. That's how you know you got a bad husband.
@btbc92 Don't listen to John_Galt, looking at his profile, he believes the election was rigged and stolen. He's clearly an idiot.
Oh, no it was rigged alright. Thats what people don't want to say. I saw how it went down because it was on national news during the time when it was still summer going into the fall when there's talked about how they found all those mail ballots in the teaching everything. But under say they got everything that line and answers off. That I can promise you. Because the mummy the person spoke up about it he was never seen again. And the News ended up changing new story. Notice God right here is only caring about what they can get out of women. You don't be involved with men like that because they are never happy with themselves. Never the one I say what I say, I know what it is they think it's all about what a woman can do for them and it's nothing like that. That not only twisting the Bible, if they twisting what marriage is really supposed to be. Both of them have unrealistic standards of what a marriage is.
The only way marriage can be legally honored in Eyes Of God is not just having sex in my loving and taking care of each other. It's very clear this is not a loving marriage. But a marriage that has always been about sex. Granted marriage is about sex. But that's all he thinks about in his mind are and that's why he's suffering in his marriage.
@btbc92 Yes, marriage is supposed to be mutual.
But what do you do about libido loss among women, which is touching pandemic proportions but never gets talked about, as it is "politically inconvenient" to do so?
He doesn't? You bet! He'd get the law thrown against him... or end up in goal... if he doesn't.
@btbc92 At the initial stages of my relationships, women invariably wanting more sex than I do. Question: Are they treating me as a "human sex toy"?
@John_Galt 1. This isn't about me... talk to males who've been in long term marriages or relationships and you'll find much of the same. 2. You can divorce, yes. But any idea of how costly that is for a man? It virtually destroys a guy!
@btbc92 Lack of sex will make any human act like an animal... when will women realise that? (I say women because it's usually them who have the lower sex drive. But not always...)
@btbc92 Women should remember that at the start of the relationship...
How is that relevant here?
@btbc92 "Taking care" includes providing sex. Specially if you're the only human on the planet who can legally do that...
Honestly if she's done it more than once in a month let alone 2 than she's cheating
You’re not entitled to shit. Get over it.
she might also be cheating with the pool man
Nope
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