
Is taking the man's last name in marriage outdated?


No, you take your husband's last name and your kids have his last name because you're a family...
Why would that be outdated🤷🏼♀️
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Women became property of her husband/ husband family after marriage thus taking said last name.. She lost her rights as an independent woman. If she planned to do any business... that would be owned by her husband and her properties become property of husband. Women were not even considered a “person” until early 20th century. The husband basically owned her and the last name was used to prove ownership.
@coachTanthony, wow from where did you get these infos? What kind of a coach you are! Bringing some non sense stories and make them sound as if they were some real history...
In the past, some men lived considering that a woman is a property but that doesn't mean that everyone believed the same...
Jesus had taught us well what a woman is and how a woman should be treated and what a real marriage is and that was from 2000 years ago and idc about some crappy sh*t that was believed in the dark ages or what some male animals did in the past!
@coachTanthony that hasn't been the case for a long time... Now women do it voluntarily and again, it's to show a United family
The only reason women do it voluntarily is because now they get all the protections to fall back on when the marriage fails or when they're bored or find someone new or if they just wanna be single mothers. Fuck the father because he decided to get married and have a family. 🤷🏻♂️ this is why I'll never marry.
@Brainsbeforebeauty I agree.
@Heartache0405 a lot of women are like that these days but not all and @Brainsbeforebeauty is a real lady and her late husband was the happiest man in the world because he married a lady whom any real man wishes to marry and ofc what helped her to be like that is that her late husband was ana amazing man too...
Not all, @TonyMetal__86, but enough are
@Heartache0405 i agree because this is a corrupted generation and harsh unfair societies...
@Brainsbeforebeauty You asked why it would be outdated so I answered. That's all. Always appreciate the comments.
@Brainsbeforebeauty I believed what you said to be right. When I was married at age 20 and had my son at age 24, we had his last name, and I was so proud of my little family. I loved them both so much. But when your husband up and abandons his family out of the clear blue, what good is his last name to HIS family when he isn't a good person?
@sage2021 do you call your ex a real husband? A real husband never does such thing, he would of done the opposite, stayed with you, took care of you and his kids and was proud and happy cause he have a little happy family that he will protect and love forever, that's a real husband...
In a real marriage where both couple are aware of a marriage's conditions, the 1st thing is the word divorce where it's eliminated!
@TonyMetal___86
Thank you so much for your words. What you said means a lot to me.
@sage2021 I'm so very sorry that happened to you. My first husband was physically abusive, so yes I eventually divorced him and just changed my name back to my maiden name, if we'd a had kids I would of kept the last name my kids had... But, I'd still take the last name of my spouse if I got married again, but after losing my spouse of 20 years, don't think I'll be trying a third time. One divorce and one death was enough for me
What if the married couple doesn't want kids?
@Billybob46 kids isn't the only reason to take your husband's last name... I'm bout to be 50, tubal ligation+menopause equals no more kids, but if I were to ever marry again, I'd still take my husband's last name
Nah. The family needs something to hold them together. Is it fair that it’s the man’s name? I mean maybe not, but historically it makes sense since it was the man that had the professional life and dealt with the public more often. Is it worth going through a huge social Revolution to choose it? No. Last times are just to help us organize and keep track of people and families. Destroying it in the name of some heroic equality will make things more confusing for everyone. Especially with the kids? If the parents have different names, who’s name do they take? If both, when do THEIR kids do? Take four names? No one is actually getting hurt in this arrangement. Let’s go find real injustices and fight those
It’s a shame this wasn’t a poll
It is a poll on my instagram
I don't care if something is considered "outdated". I'll do whatever the Hell I want to. I don't follow trends, especially not trends in regards to what's considered appropriate or not. I dress like it's still 1920/1940, my values don't match "modern" values, and my traditions are old world traditions.
If you want to get to specifics though, not all places do that anyway. In Scandinavian countries the last names are dependent on the father or mother. In many Muslim households, the man and woman keep their last names. Spanish women have been keeping their names throughout history. Other European countries, like Netherlands and Belgium, women keep their last name.
Seems younger women and divorced then remarried women are doing this more and more. I am very progressive in many areas, but very traditional in others. This is where I would be very hurt if she did not take my last name. Now, at my age, if I were to remarry and she didn't want to take my name, there would be 1 question. When she married the first time, did she take her husband's name? If she says yes, and refuses to take mine, I would end the relationship. If she is my age and has always kept her name, then I would still be very hurt, but I could probably live with it.
Interesting point. Although, I am getting married soon and I’m not taking his surname because I’m the last/youngest person to have my family’s surname. It’s very likely that I will be the person who either carries my surname onto my kids or that’s the last of that surname the world will see.
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No not outdated but also not necessary to take his last name either. Personally I kept my last name cause I didn't want to do all the paperwork to change it. I always thought I wanted to take his name till I realized how difficult of a switch it actually is.
And it's hell to switch back to if it doesn't end up working out. I watched my sister go through it after her divorce.
@ShaTTeredMasterpeace yes that too. Nothing worse then being stuck with a exs name
@Apple1996 yeah, the paperwork sucked! But I did the MissNowMrs packet.
@KatherineJ interesting I'll have to look into that if I ever change my name. Might do it one day when my hubby gets out of the military. My name is just too set in stone on everything for his job. That is the real reason why I'm not changing it
@Apple1996 yeah, if you choose to take his name, it’s a lot easier to go to that website (pay), and do everything there. It make it a LOT more organized than trying to remember every single thing that needed to be changed.
Yes. But the problem is finding an alternative. Most people still want their family to all have the same last name.
I think that a couple should just decide together whose name they want to take, or if they want to hyphenate, or make a new name altogether. But you'd be hard pressed to find many guys who are even open to the conversation.
Personally, I'm probably going to take my spouse's name anyway, but that's mostly because I don't particularly like my own surname. I will keep my own name as well, informally, but I wouldn't give it to my children. Because the family that it's associated with has a pretty messy history. And it might have been part of my journey, but I don't want my children's to be anything like that.
Not really but I don't think it has to be a mans, could be the woman's. Whatever the two of you can agree on.
I believing having the same last name though is best for the kids. If you keep your own, what do you give the children? Rotate every other child with each of your last names or some other method?
No it isn't. It shows the commitment a woman has for her husband who has committed his love, resources, time and even life to her. My girl is free to keep her last name, but she does very much want my last name and I appreciate that. You will find the women who bitch about women taking men's last names to be incredibly hypocritical. So it's not okay for a woman to take a man's last name because that's "OpPresSiOn" by the "pAtRiArChY", but vice versa they see no issue in it.
A good way to distinguish a good woman from the femiNazi is by asking her this very question.
I would take his last name. I think it is important to be a family and to have my children's last name too. I don't think it's outdated.
I think it depends. I don't even have my dad's last name.
I did consider changing it before he passed. He's not even on my birth certificate and my mum messed that up too.
I on the other hand can only say this the children would always have their fathers name.
I don’t see the point in taking his name legally tbh. (None of my four sisters did and all of their husbands don’t have an issue with it.) I wouldn’t mind being referred to as his last name though. Taking the mans last name isn’t really a thing in my culture and most women keep their dads last name out of respect.
This picture is triggering to me 😂😂
Anyways I wouldn't say it's outdated but it's certainly sexist. Whenever a woman takes her husband's name is like she's becoming his property. I never understood why can't he take her name too. Sadly most people, including married women see no problem with this. It's one of these things that will never change...
Even if it wasn't, i dont feel like changing all my files and dealing with SSA paperwork. People can call me by his last name but on paper it’ll still be mine
Personally I never will take my husband's lastname but it's really up to you. I'm an individual and I prefer being in a marriage as two individuals... not just the Mrs.
It doesn’t cross my mind, to not take his last name, the only time though it has is when people put it on the Internet and turn it into a meme or to shame guys. When I was younger, sometimes you’d see a woman’s last name with a hyphen then her husbands last name. But it was not a thing to doubt or create something out of.
I also noticed that the couple is interracial. So, no, it is not outdated. In my case it's a moot point because I don't want to get married, but if I did, I would insist on two things: 1) a prenup (unless she makes more money than I do, then I would still agree on a prenup for her benefit, not mine)
2) She takes my last name. If she doesn't, it defeats the purpose of marriage. If she takes my last name, then she is telling everyone that she is my wife. If she doesn't, then it says she's ashamed to be married to me. I don't want to read any crap about how "I don't want to have to update my licenses, degrees, diplomas, and whatever accomplishments I decided to cook up". I changed my last name to my original family name. My great grandfather immigrated to America and for whatever reason, he changed his name. So, I changed it back. To my knowledge, I am the only living member of my family with this last name.
He's gonna be the breadwinner and provider, I don't think it's outdated to have the kids take his name.
Nah it's something girls want unless they're feminists
It makes a lot of sense, for a lot of practical reasons, for the husband, wife and children to all share the same last name. Some would argue then that it could just as easily be the wife's last name, and that's true.
However, marriage is becoming less and less attractive to men. There are more risks and fewer benefits in marriage to men these days. Having his family all share his name is one of the few remaining benefits for a man, and taking that one away may well be the final nail in the coffin for the institution of marriage.
Having said all that, I would never marry a woman who wouldn't enthusiastically take my last name. If she wanted to keep her name or hyphenate, that tells me all I need to know about her character and worldview to know she doesn't deserve to be my wife.
I know this sounds kinda weird, but I would use whichever name is better. Like if my last name was Rose and his was Weiner, I would keep 🌹
No, I’d take his last name.
It think it’s being more accepted that men take their wives last name or that the wife keeps hers and husband keeps his.
The whole marriage thing sounds like an old scam to men in modern times, but If I ever get the get married, I would be really disappointed If my lover didn't want my name, at the point of calling it off and finding another woman to give my last name to. This is very symbolic to me, it's an statement that you become part of your man's soul and that he has the obligation to take care of you.
To some yes. Most people I know did a hyphen of their name.
Do the kids get hyphenated as well or how does that work out if they have any? I am just imagining the kids getting it then 25 years from now, a hyphenated child's last name marries someone else with a hyphenated last name so the next generation hyphenates it again.
Seems kind of funny but I do know someone who did just that, only thing is both her and her husbands last names were extremely long.
@Aerissa_Jade this is my question. Seems short sighted
@JessicaEarl usually just the the wife would. The Kids would take the fathers name
Gotcha
I guess my question is, did that actually solve anything? How is that different than moving her last name to a second middle name?
@JessicaEarl it just made sure her family name was not forgotten.
My ex still uses my last name.
I don't know if she will stop using it when I remarry. I have not thought about it. I guess it is only outdated for those who think it is outdated.
It is just our society has changed so much. There was a time when all a man had to do was to provide. Then we made that unfashionable and impractical.
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