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in this current economy, marriage is hard, divorce is harder, and dating is expensive as hell. why would your woman not expect a huge rock is beyond me. if you're proposing somebody to start a new life, shouldn't you have common sense to do so grandly? mind you, many people get married only once in their life.
I honestly truth I had a man who told me I have to earn myself a ring which doesn't seem right because one the female he actually cheated on me with even after my father had talked to him man to man during that whole 8 years he had been cheating on me and the only reason why he stopped dating that female after he domestic assault charge and in a domestic battery. Which I never had been at all physically hit or abused by him and all of a sudden he has changed which is odd from that female who demanded him and told him lies about how she needed to prove her friends that she was in her true real relationship so they claim did she needed to have him by her at least four different rings since he was stupid enough to believe that she's lost any of them but it's okay he told me I had to earn it my ring? And actually all I asked was for Christmas was a Pandora bracelet and the one ring I found out actually turned out to be an engagement ring which cost $499.00 and had lied about everything to his own family that he and I broke up which he never said any of that cuz if that was truth why did you speak to my father which my father passed away from stage 4 lung cancer 2017 which the ex-boyfriend now actually tried crawling back to me after the charges were pressed against him in January 2020 and he actually told he and started dating again back in 2018 which was complete why anyways towards him. Which there was another ex-boyfriend of that woman we actually did say he was also mentally and verbally abused by the same woman that my now ex-boyfriend has been because she uses her disability to her advantage which is sad I'm not trying to call any people with any mental illness wrong what she tries to play the card because I have never known him be at all abusive because I've known him since 2012 before this female came around which he such a coward to even hit me while I ask him to be sexual with me and he actually was turned off by that even though we had already bought the sex toy and we could not return the item at all.
🤣 petty and salty and nvm. 🤣 sorry but not sorry. but that’s just the truth. I’d rather put that $ on savings towards our house when we get married or to our honeymoon! Rings are just part of the dream, the fantasy of fairy tales. The thought that a man actually wants to spend the rest of his life with me is way more priceless than a piece of jewelry on my finger. I’m not just saying this. Be realistic. But if he really wants to get me one, I won’t say no but he doesn’t need to! Ask me if I want one, I’d say no. Put it towards our new house instead, sweetheart. 🥰
It is petty for a number of reasons. Diamonds aren’t actually rare. Their prices are artificially controlled. They’re not really even all that spectacular. There are a number of truly rare gems with real abilities to produce spectacles with light. Most diamonds are either blood diamonds, products of a bloody territorial dispute dating back ages, or created artificially. So you’re spending a lot of money to perpetuate a war in a third world country and/or for something so common that some people have compared it to water for its abundance on the planet.
Also, most people do not get married only once. More than half of all marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorced people are likely to remarry. This is actually a declining trend; down roughly 10% over the last 50-60 years.
So only an ignorant and petty woman would demand a large diamond engagement ring and only a fool of a man would marry such a woman. In fact, i’d argue that it’s petty to demand a ring at all. Frankly, it’s petty to expect marriage! Ell oh ell! Only stoopid men are still getting married.
A lady who truly loves his man will marry him with her will before you even begin the marriage ceremony to show off to the world and the guy will sell all his fortune to his women and kids but whatever he can give should be more valuable to you because it came from love which doesn't has a price tag you'll only want to know the market price if you only live to show off to society and run after money and cool things but reality is way different from this, we have to make a whole life together and spend so much on eachother not just money but spend our life on each other a person devoting life to you and you to him which is worth more then anything in this world so yeah it's not a good thing to measure your partner of the life by a diamond you will look like a kid asking for a bigger chocolate, being said that i understand we only marry once and it should be celebrated and if he really loves you he will give what he can and save for your future too this is the way at least a way of a smart person, he should gift you love expect that🫰
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Yes, it is. Nobody needs giant engagement rings. Heck, you don’t even need a ring at all to propose to someone. You don’t even need to get married at all.
Guess it depends what you want. Personally my husband and I got a $150 silver ring for him and a small discreet ring for me with a tiny diamond inside the band.
We chose this largely because we were investing heavily into our property, buying up acreage on all sides of us, and fixing up the house in different ways.
We also bought me / us a big new truck since we moved from town to mountain.
All these things considered we thought it would be a bad idea to spend thousands on a diamond, however great investment a diamond is, and we do like to invest generally speaking.
If we'd stayed in our little house in the small town we were in few years ago, we might have bought a huge rock I think
So generally I think it depends on your situation as a whole
Yes I think it is petty. I'm not marrying him for the rock. I'm marrying him because I love him. I honestly would really adore an engagement ring with my birthstone or some other pretty gem and I feel like that would be more meaningful than a diamond. Something less expensive than a diamond. Topazes are really pretty. I honestly think diamonds are kinda meh... They don't look any different than the fake ones to me.
Anyway at the end of the day, the ring doesn't matter, it's just a rock on a piece of metal.
An engagement ring historically had no jewels, also known as a betrothal ring, is a ring indicating that the person wearing it is engaged to be married, especially in Western cultures. A ring is presented by a partner to their prospective spouse when they propose marriage or directly after a marriage proposal is accepted. It represents a formal agreement to future marriage, it was never a 'gift' but a symbol of that formal marriage agreement it remains the property of the husband.
Diamonds in engagement rings are a result of an ad campaign pushed by De Beers Consolidated Mines, Ltd in the 1930's
I'm pretty sure spending many thousands of dollars on a ring and thus having less money for actual practical things like buying a home / saving up for a rainy day or kids is the opposite of common sense.
I think it's more so the thought that counts than the diamond size. If you're only able to afford a $500 ring then pick put the BEST $500 ring, the one you think will be the most beautiful one for her. Expecting a huge diamond from a man that isn't making huge money is kind of unrealistic.
But it's once in a life opportunity!
Ok I'll be fully honest, if he constantly treats himself with nice things and gives me a cheap ass ring then I wouldn't like it because for me it shows that he treats me less than himself. But in all honesty, I'd rather he just gives me the money and a cheaper ring.
Yes.
Who cares? That has to be the weirdest thing to care about in the world.
My parents didn't even have a wedding really. They married super low key in a courthouse and went out to a diner with family afterwards. That's it.
They instead saved that money so 8 years later they could afford a house worth 3x the value 10 years later.
What do you think is the better investment?
When I get married im going to be adamant against anything massive or crazy. It doesn't make sense and it's a headache for no reason. I'd rather spend that on the best honeymoon ever 😎
I don’t know about others…I was never into that stuff till he told me I have to have the most perfect diamond. And he insisted that it has to be bigger because he didn’t like the one carat the sells people showed us.
you have to meet the man who you will have a life with. And that both are there for each other aside from the ring and stuff. Be good to each other.
yes, and no. I think the ring doesn't matter if you love him. BUT if he is cutting costs and being cheap, it can be a reflection on his thoughts of the value of you AT THE TIME! I say at the time meaning he may be 20 and that is the best he can offer and is proud of how hard he worked for it. OR 45 and it is whatever. Only you'd know his heart and that is the most important.
Nah, she would be getting a $60 ring or some shit. I know the origin of diamond rings and it is so companies can manipulatively make money off of people by expecting men to spend months of their salary on a fucking rock.
Like, are you fucking kidding me?
So very true.
Diamonds aren't even that rare. There are crystals much rarer which are cheaper. This is just plain manipulation at its finest and so many fall for it.
This is one of the reasons, I some times think the modern generation has lost the plot. Is a proposal about the value of the ring, or about the intention to commit oneself to a person for the rest of one's life?
I actually see the importance af a rock on the ring as shallow and unnecessary show off. If the guy can afford it, so be it. If not, why should it matter? Even if he can afford it, why do you want something that could either get you robbed or your fingers or arm cut?
It matters
They grow diamonds in labs now, so come 50 years times diamonds will be meh.
Yes it's petty, tradition was the ring was to cost a month's salary, that tradition has gone and its been replaced by greedy girls with fake talons and plump lips.
Fake chicks only deserve fake stuff.
The type of woman who likes diamond rings has a specific type of personality.
Me getting a woman a diamond ring is not the problem, the type of woman who desires a diamond ring is a giant red flag for me.
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The whole diamond ring thing only came about because of a marketing campaign by the De Beers corporation who, at the time, owned a monopoly on the diamond market.
So yeah, generally I think the expectations of expensive rocks is petty, but a pettiness grown and perpetuated by society at large.
Not "petty" but ungrateful and shallow, maybe.
What if they can't afford it? Isn't it the thought that counts?
Why a diamond? There are so many other beautiful stones out there, much more beautiful than diamonds, and rarer.. Zircon, for example. 😍
Simulated diamonds too, have come a long way in the last 10 years!! 💯❤️
As a guy I totally cannot relate to certain things women think. One of them is a woman's obsession with engagement and wedding rings. But even though it seems completely alien to me, I love when they feel that way. It's attractive and something I see as very feminine.
If I'm gonna get a girl a huge diamond it would be to wear at home and be able to enjoy in the comfort of sipping a hot drink out on the deck or porch. I ain't gonna give a girl a rock that gonna end up getting her hand lopped off for. HELL nah.
for me personally, the ring doesn’t matter much, how big/small it is as long as it’s something he picked out with tons of love…
and I don’t like big flashy jewellery anyways, I’m more into small and cute…
the price also doesn’t matter as long as the ring lasts our lifetime together…
Am I weird for wanting the honeymoon. The ring can wait but the honeymoon is where the honeymoon happens
"The honeymoon is where the honeymoon happens.". hahaha
@Jamie05rhs I meant to say the magic but I had a date with some buffalo chicken tenders lol
It actually made total sense to me, though!!
I would shop together with her on what she wants. A nice Tiffany ring looks a lot better than a diamond. in my opinion
Plus with all the controversy of blood diamonds. Yes its very petty, and like some the ladies have said that money could be used for better things.
Just what the fuck has the size of a diamond ring got to do with being proposed to?
Genuine Love comes long before any Monetary Values.
I understand that. But why would you go cheap ass on something that your partner would only get once, a marriage ring
Why spend a bunch a money on that instead of putting it toward a house?
Depends on if she's willing to accept a lab grown diamond. Lab diamonds are chemically identical to their mined counterparts, only they are much cheaper and you know for a fact they did not come from conflict zones or child labor. They are of the same hardness and have the same luster. They are actual diamonds, only they were not pulled from the Earth. If your fiancé is willing to accept a lab grown diamond, then your ability to afford a diamond of size becomes much greater.
Pretty much. Giving (diamond) rings is I reckon an old European tradition. I was born in America and live in Africa. Expecting so expensive jewellery is materialism. I love how my old fiancée just wanted a ring of any price, made of any jewel.
Yes, because it's literally putting a price on the relationship. Plus diamond resale is garbage. In the old days it was a hand forged ring or a metal band ring, no gemstone. Gemstones were known to be for royalty & nobles who had an immense amount of money. Plus a promise item doesn't have to be a ring.
Nah. That’s a red flag for me. If you expect elegance and grandeur… you are not the right person to be with… if she can’t provide that stuff for herself, she doesn’t need it from me. No women are relationship is worth that much early on. Maybe 15 or 20 years down the road when she continues to do the things that kept me attracted to her and keeps me coming back. Then sure
Yes its petty. If you want a super expensive ring, buy it yourself. Marriage should be about love and having to spend an arm and a leg on an object as meaningless as a ring is ridiculous. You dont even need a ring to get married.
Every woman has a little girl inside, what's wrong for a little girl yearning for fairy tales' elements in her life?
And a diamond is too specific, personally I'd rather a silver ring with green saphir.
You shouldn't need a huge diamond to convince her that you love her truly. My parents have the closest thing to a perfect marriage I know of. My dad didn't even get my mom an engagement ring. Probably because he didn't exactly propose. He just asked her if she wanted to get married. She did and they had the equivalent of a shotgun wedding.
Fuck that shit. That's a hell of a way to start off a marriage. Getting her trained to expect expensive gifts.
Cheap ass
@anon1903 Bite me.
hard pass on a woman who is materialistic to this degree, if that woman NEEDS such a status symbol she is probably unhappy with something else in her life. The happiest people you will ever meet dont rely on material things for their joy.
Rings are mostly useless trash except for the person selling it 😂 so yes. But if the fiance has extra money to waste and will make her happy then it isn't petty.
As long as the ring is nice and she likes it then that's fine.
Plenty of rings out there.
She may not like Diamond rings she may like rings that have Skulls on it or something she finds cool.
Diamonds aren't even that rare. Others are much rarer and cheaper.
See, I wouldn't expect that, I would expect him to propose with his cock wrapped in sparkly red ribbon and a giant bag of Sweetarts
We were saving for a house and used the money for that. We got gold wedding bands though.
Sorry to say but it's petty. Your husband is not measured from the size of his diamond ring. That's why many rich men think they can get any woman they want.
I wouldn't say petty. More... disappointing. Unless he gets him a diamond one as well. But it's bad, expecting a diamond gift. It's a gift, stop being spoiled.
I don’t think so. If a guy can be 40,000 on a car, he can the other who becomes One Flesh with you the most breathtaking 20,000 Diamond 💎 ring.
Yeah. Because love isn’t in a ring. Especially if he can’t afford it.
If you measure love in material value. Then it isn’t love. She should find a sugar daddy
this is a ridiculous stance on a very superficial and small part of marriage. marriage is more than a "huge diamond ring"
Yes very, and you just listed the exact reason why. If life is getting so expensive, why should we be expected to waste money on an expensive ring?
Why marry either? Marriage is expensive too! Why have kids? Kids live for free on your head til 18!!
Marriage doesn’t cost anything other than expensive weddings and rings (or divorce)
Don’t want kids so an irrelevant point for me.
But still! You only marry once, man
Yeah. And if I was to get marriages I’ll spend that money on a vacation or something we could use and enjoy to signify it, not a pointless ring
Point taken
I mean yeah it's not the rock that matters it's the symbolism plus diamonds kinda suck they are very overpriced then again I already own a 10 k diamond so I don't need to worry about that
Hello Richie Rich 🤑
Yeah im so rich I found that diamond ring while walking into a dollar store, also found a gold wedding band while cleaning at my job
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Nice and I got at least 2 rings wanna see them
Sure! Pasteboard me
I proposed to an ex-girlfriend and after my birthday she broke up with me and I did not pay a lot of money for a ring for her, it was a little over $299.99 I couldn't afford it.
The engagement ring I bought was £10. I wouldn't spend thousands, we've just bought a house, lots of work to do, better things to spend money on, either with house or kids
I think the market for diamonds is manipulated and the way they are mined and transported is usually riddled with controversy…so I would have a serious discussion about expectations with my partner before we thought about rings
I will always give two options when proposing and rings. You want a big wedding or a big honey moon? Which one is more likely to give you more memories?
Big honeymoon as in vacation in Switzerland
Yeah especially if they're wanting a ring that's damn near in the millions.
I got one and they are really pretty. But it's probably poor financial sence.
Yes, very petty. I would never demand that from any man.
Nah, this is definitely some “run bro” behavior. Extremely petty and spoiled.
Yes it’s petty. I’d say it falls under the sin of idolatry. It is a useless rock that is only valuable because the de Beers family has cornered the market.
Extremely petty.
Cost of the ring is NOT an indication of how much he loves you, and diamonds are ridiculously overpriced for something that is essentially compressed coal.
Love should be the overruling factor.
Well it sounds like you’ve got your answer about whether or not marriage is for you.
Just what you need, payments on a ring that will in all likelihood last longer than the marriage.
Yes. Do you want to spend a lot of money on a rock? Or would you rather spend it on things that actually bring your life value?
Like a house?
sure as fuck it’s selfish. unless he had gobs of money ie rich af. other wise it’s petty and maybe a gold digger. people should appreciate the gift no matter what.
Yeah it is
this is ONE of the reasons why i dont want to get married
Yeah. But women can be petty.
I certainly think there are much better expectations to have from a partner.
People will waste money on a huge ring and an overdone wedding instead or being modest and then making the down payment on a home.
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