Studies show that there are no benifits to marriage to men. What are the benifits of marriage for women?

[Vegasrunner]

[Anonymous]

I don’t know what studies you’re reading, but statistically, married men live longer. Their income and career trajectories are higher, their net worth is higher. Marriage can offer companionship, love, and emotional support as well as legal and financial benefits. It can provide a stable environment for raising children and building a family.
The stereotype in our culture is that marriage is an institution that benefits women but costs men, but marriage serves men much more than women in almost every way.

[Vegasrunner]

@Anonymous Net income would be tangible. Companionship is a female benifit love and emotional support are intangible. Legal and Financial benifits are false as statistically speaking divorce laws are skewed against men. If marriage benifits men then are you saying that women shouldn't get married?

[Opinion Owner]

No, I think both men and women should get married. I’m just disagreeing with the statement that there are no benefits to marriage for men. I definitely believe that there are 😊

[Vegasrunner]

@OpinionOwner TY for proving my point. If marriage served men as much as you claim them why would woman want to get married. Women rarely do something that doesn't directly benifit them.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Vegasrunner

While in the case of the state-sanctioned "marriage" You are right, some deals can benefit both sides.

[Vegasrunner]

@CalmUntilAbused No one has presented 1 tangible benifit to men just a bunch of emotionally charged positions that benifit women.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Vegasrunner That's why I said that in the case of the state-sanctioned "marriage", You are right. How about taking care of the home and kids in a true, traditional, purely Catholic marriage? It would take a lot of pressure off Your shoulders, wouldn't it?

[Vegasrunner]

@CalmUntilAbused I wouldn't be the best person to speak on that as I'm not sure what the difference between Catholic and state sanctioned marriages are. The data shows single fathers do better at raising kids than single mothers so it would only be a benifit to the women in this case.

[CalmUntilAbused]

@Vegasrunner

Well... I'm sure we've discussed the topic of the true, traditional, purely Catholic marriages within a different question that You asked, but to put it short, they are designed to last and they eliminate the risk of a divorce rape. The caveat is that they are only valid if You are both Catholics, or at least believers of some other faith. And the reason why single mothers are usually doing a worse job raising kids than single fathers (how come they are still usually the ones getting full custody of the children?) is probably their lower responsibility and financial stability (after all, a continous influx of money will always be better than a one-time divorce rape). However, it's still better to have Your home taken care of by a loving wife (and having a loving wife is actually possible within the true, traditional, purely Catholic marriage... if You can find a Catholic woman who would agree to such a marriage). A lot of stress off Your shoulders, and trust me, I've been around toddlers and it's a true nightmare for a man. As they grow, the somehow become more attentive and easier to bear for men, but I can assure You that You'd never want to take care of a toddler (first of all, try to find a way to still come to work while taking a permanent care of the baby... home office might help, but it might not be enough).

[CalmUntilAbused]

grow up*, they*

[Vegasrunner]

@CalmUntilAbused I think I remember this now. My question was if you get "married in the Catholic church does it get recognized by the state. If the answer is no, then you may have some validity, however I still fail to see the benifit to men. This seems like it benifits the women, not to mention it limits a man's options making it much more difficult.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Yes, I answered that question and the answer can be "no", if it's a purely Catholic marriage. Some countries allow people to have both marriages in a single ceremony, but that's not what one should go for, especially if they are a man. And in such a marriage, having all the things that are absolutely irritating to do after a day of hard work taken care of for You (with no risk on Your side) would be the key benefit. Promiscuity is not exactly a good idea, especially since if something does not go to plan, You can still fall into the alimony trap, so I'd "limiting a man's options" is not really a serious downside.

[CalmUntilAbused]

I'd say*

[Vegasrunner]

@CalmUntilAbused I remember now, this was in Ireland or Iceland or some place like that? I don't think it applies to America. In my POV you only have those "irritating things" if you're married. When I come home from a long day, I can instantly relax, and just call one of my women to come over, have sex and then kick them out. Trading that for the same women to come home to and a bunch of bratty kids doesn't seem like a good deal for me. In America alimony is only paid if you were married so I don't have to worry about that.

[laraWM]

Which studies? Marriage itself has probably no impact at all, but the relationship has one

[Astarlessnightsky]

What studies?

Also there is at least the benefit for a better tax rate if you marry.

And is there supposed to be a benefit? Isn't it enough to want to get married.

[Vegasrunner]

@Astarlessnightsky No, In America people don't do something w/out it having a tangible benifit.

[normalice]

There are no such studies. This is redpill sociopathy because you are a redpill troll here to push a redpill narrative 😅

[LazerBean]

TBH as a conservative, I hate that extreme liberal monkeys like OP have taken our color. Conservatives are all about marriage and it's value. OP is the male equivalent of a radical feminist.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice There's was literally just a study on GAG that u personally took part in and, if I remember correctly were unable to present any tangible benifits for men.

[normalice]

The redpill thing is a far right effort to turn common male sexual frustrations into hand outs for the rich.

[normalice]

Oh, and also a way to cement power by keeping people mad about made up stuff instead of getting mad about rich people stealing all the money.

[Vegasrunner]

@LazerBean Women typically make decisions based on emotional and hate is an extreme one so thanks for sharing.

[normalice]

A study on.. gag? Ahahahahaaha 😂

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Yes, and thank you so much for providing data.

[normalice]

Oh no problem. I just followed your lead and provided only the data needed to counter yours 😊

[madhatters4]

@Vegasrunner you did not take part in a study on G@G. it was a poll

[Vegasrunner]

@madhatters4 Unfortunately no I did not take part in a poll about the tangible benifits of marriage, however if u have it please feel free to share.

[normalice]

Wait, you openly admit you're considering a gag pill a "study?" 😅

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Please feel free to share that. The only data I found from u was agreeing w/ me that there was no benifit to marriage for men.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice unfortunately I don't know what a "GAG pill" is.

[normalice]

Gag poll. I don't proofread when responding to trolls 🤷

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY for sharing this, but I don't see what relevance this has to me.

[normalice]

Of course you do. But because you are a redpill troll of course it's your job to pretend you have no idea why anyone would think you are one. Classic trolling 😅

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That certainly is an opinion you are welcome to have, I just do see what relevance it has to do w/ the fact that no one has been able to provide tangible benifits of marriage for men.

[normalice]

Nope, just connecting the dots. I've given you ample opportunity to offer some alternative explanation for why you so precisely appear to be a paid redpill troll, other than being one, but you stick to the redpill troll script, instead.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY so u agree that no tangible benifits for men have been provided TY.

[normalice]

I suppose the brain damage caused by being a redpill troll would cause someone to baselessly blurt that out, sure 😅

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY for sharing whatever that was, while validating the original point.

[normalice]

That's the opposite what happened, but I understand why you need to feel that way.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I think we've uncovered your leak. You spend a ton of time focused on feelings. What's odd about is inherently you recognize this isn't male behavior which is why you attempt to attribute your characteristics to others

[normalice]

I'm just really attuned to other people's rage, and you're dripping with it. I can't help you over the internet, though.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Lol, it's interesting to point out that the guy trolling and leaving immature comments on every post is accusing someone else of rage. Typical case of transference where u attempt to pretend that others share your attitude.

[normalice]

Lol, you replied to me, troll. I didn't ask you to.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Um, I'm the author of the question. So again that is simply false, like much of your statements

[normalice]

Right, and I answered that "question." You're the one who decided to push misinformation in reply to my answer.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice So your answer is info that hurt your feelings isn't true? Lol, TY for sharing that.

[normalice]

I can see why want to feel that way but alas in real life GAG polls are not "studies" 😅

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY for sharing that unrelated completed inaccurate statement. Where you conduct a poll has no relevance on its ability to be used as a study. Hope this helps.

[normalice]

You have already admitted you are making statements, not asking questions. Are you trying to bury that admission in an avalanche of nonsense replies or something?

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Unfortunately I can't speak to that as there is no truth in your statement. However the fact that you need to fabricate a statement only validates the fact that you are unable to provide any benifits.

[normalice]

I could screenshot it at need, as you are well aware. But you are here to push a narrative not argue in good faith, so what would be the point?

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice The fact that you haven't only proves how far gone your delusion has taken you.

[normalice]

No, it proves how little I think of you redpill trolls.

[normalice]

Oops wrong button. I already know you know. The only reason I would prove anything is for the "audience" but I don't think you're interesting enough for us to have one.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice OK, so you're simply lying about that as well. This is simply another example of female delusion as you've read some information that hurts your feelings, any audience would quickly recognize you lack of performance when it comes to your failed attempt to expose information you made up.

[normalice]

You might have replied to the wrong person? That doesn't have anything being discussed here.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Unfortunately you are wrong about that as well, you claimed you had this evidence of some statement but failed to provide any. This seems to be a common female theme.

[normalice]

Yeah, I think you're confused. You openly admitted you were pushing a narrative and are pretending you didn't because you're a troll. Now my guess is you're just talking gibberish to cover up for your blunder.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice If I understand what you're trying to say your position is you have evidence to back up your belief but are unable to provide it? Or is this another "feeling" you're sharing please elaborate.

[normalice]

Don't pretend you're trying to understand something you told me yourself, troll.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Now what is it you believe I told you?

[normalice]

The thing you've been trying to cover up for days. That you admitted you were only trying to make a statement, not ask a question.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I've made several statements anyone reading GAG could see that so not sure why tjat would need to be covered up.

[normalice]

Because you admitted your question was actually a statement, not something you genuinely wanted an answer to - instead it was misinformation you wanted to push in front of people and increase your reach by pretending to ask their opinion.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Lol, you keep saying that however have failed to provide any evidence that remotely suggest anything like that. Plenty people have had no problem providing a straight answer to the question so perhaps it's your own shortcomings that have caused your confusion.

[normalice]

It's in the other conversation you're trolling on. And I know you're aware of it because you respond to it at the same time as this one. Just another liar..

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice interesting how you accuse others of lying when you are the one who claimed he had "evidence" yet have produced nothing. This is an example of female delusion

[normalice]

I explained why there was no point in providing you with evidence and you have done nothing to contradict that explanation.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice There's no point in providing evidence, so you're simply reacting w/ feeling?

[normalice]

I'm replying by encouraging you to read the conversation first before I'll let you think I think you are participating in it in good faith.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Unfortunately you're not replying to the question asked. If you were on a stand and someone asked you what benefits are there for woman, claiming equality of that they are the same would not be admissible. TBH you've already provided the data needed for a reader to make a logical decision, a lot of times it's what people don't say that's the answer

[normalice]

In real life I replied by asking for clarification, which you couldn't provide because, as you admitted, you weren't asking a question, you were making a statement.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice So you don't understand? That makes more sense. Please provide the screenshot showing your original clarification question and I'll see if I can help you

[normalice]

Nah, you can scroll back and find it, or any of the many times where I repeated it, including my last comment. If you had any intention of answering it, that is..

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice So people should simply taje your word over evidence?

[normalice]

If they'd like. I'm offering a plausible explanation for your inconsistencies. If people prefer to believe you anyway, it has little to do with me.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Probably a tough sell. For starters any literate person would recognize that your responding to a question asked w/ a question. The also would recognize your reluctance to answer the original question.

[normalice]

You also refuse to answer basically the same question about women when your question suggest some obvious answer to you. Of course, as you've admitted already, that's because you're nort trying to find an answer but instead are pushing a narrative. Because you're just another redpill troll on the internet...

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Why would I answer my own question?

[normalice]

You believe it is the same question, eh?

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I can't speak to "same question as I not sure what your referring to" The question ask for a response about benifits of marriage specifically for women, if you have some please feel free to share. If you can't then proceed in the sane manner.

[normalice]

I'm saying there are no studies that show there are no benefits for men. That was the original comment. Everything after that was kind of lost into the rage orgy of the other 4+ "conversations" you're trying to get me to top for.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I think you found your issue right there your original response is based on a fallacy. I'm not sure how I can be responsible for you commenting on my post.

[normalice]

If it were actually based on a fallacy, maybe but you already admitted it wasn't, so 🤷

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That is certainly a narrative you are welcome to believe however as long as objective readers don't then the point has been made.

[normalice]

Likewise 🤷

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice TY for agreeing.

[normalice]

That's not what likewise means 😅

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice You need my help w/ vocabulary as well?

[normalice]

I didn't ask for your help. Do you understand what that means?

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice If that were true you wouldn't be responding to all my post.

[normalice]

Nit at all. My responses mean I am convinced you needed my help. Of course you admitted you aren't actually looking for help when you admitted you were here pushing a narrative instead of asking questions in good faith, but now you're denying admitting anything of the sort so I'm here to help again.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Great. You could start by answering the original question.

[normalice]

I prefer answering why someone is asking rather than what they are asking. If someone is genuine they are the same thing and if someone is trolling it avoids the annoyance of shifting goal posts.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Lol, I'm sure you would prefer to dodge the question however that only validates the initial premise.

[normalice]

No it doesn't. Questioning a premise is, if anything, the opposite of validating it.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That is false, it takes nothing to question something simply because it makes you feel bad. By failing to provide answer you validate the belief that there are no beinfits

[normalice]

It has nothing to do with feelings. As I've explained repeatedly, and you have even admitted to, you are here making statements to push an agenda. I'm just calling it out where I see it.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice If that were true you would simply provide an answer to the question. Responding w/ a question is just a deflection tactic used by females when they hear information that triggers them.

[normalice]

It's the opposite of what you say. If a premise to a question is false, answering it only lends validation to that false premise.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Now thar explains a lot. What do you believe the premise of "What are the benifits to marriage for women" is?

[normalice]

The premise, as I've explained over and over, is the "studies show.." part. There are no such studies.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Well that's the problem, that belief is false.

[normalice]

It isn't a belief. It is observation. When I asked what studies you cited a gag poll. That's not what a study is. We've been over this.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I see your confusion. You took part of a complete answer in order to come to a conclusion that you wanted to believe. Not to mention your over arching belief of where a poll is conducted is false. IE, I never claimed that the sum total of my findings came from GAG, that's a narrative you created because you didn't like the truth. The fact that you had to do that only validates my original statement.

[normalice]

Oh, I'm not confused. If your aim was to sow doubt that you might not be a redpill troll I regret to inform you that you achieved the opposite. I've never been more certain and less confused about anything.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Gotcha, that certainly was not my aim as I'm not even sure what "Redpill troll" means. Glad I could correct you.

[normalice]

I don't need any more convincing, lol. You don't have to keep piling the evidence on.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice I'm not sure what your referring to as I simply asked anyone to provide benifits to marriage for women. You have failed and have instead made random remarks which have no relevance to the question

[normalice]

And your question was based on a false premise, as I explained every other time you brought up that "point."

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Yes, but when you "explain" you're simply doubling down on something you're incorrect about. Also if that was true you wouldn't have responded to the question.

[normalice]

A gag poll is not a study. I'm not incorrect about that.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Actually you're both dishonest and incorrect.
1) You came to the conclusion that I used a "Gag Poll" as a study, I never said that if I did please screenshot amd share so we kmow you are arguing in good faith
2) Where a data is collected does not determine if a study takes place. In fact a lot of scientific studies collect research data from surveying people in public places like Malls, Parks etc, which is no different than surveying people online. In fact one of the biggest differences is that people online tend to be more honest because on the anonymity. Like most females you don't like the results so youve decided to attack the information rather than review it.'

[normalice]

No, you told me you used a gag pill when I asked for the study to which you referred to.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice That is a completed fabricated lie that you created yourself, proof being you can't provide a screen shot of where I allegedly made a claim in writing.

[normalice]

You are just as capable of scrolling up as i am.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Along w/ any other reader, neither would find anything remotely close to what you're fabricating.

[normalice]

I understand there's no consequences to your lies, but nor are there any benefits. This is why the only explanation I can come up with is that you, indeed, a paid troll. It wouldn't surprise me if it was revealed you are literally Kellyanne Conway or whatever her name is.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice in my opinion like most women the struggle for you is to understand that simply because something makes you feel bad does not make it a lie.

[normalice]

But that isn't your opinion. As a paid troll your job is to come up with "meta" opinions that serve your benefactor's purpose, not your own. That's why you can't make any sense in the context of this conversation.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice You've said that b4, however I can't speak to a conclusion as bizarre as that, accept to highlight the depths women will go to avoid responsibility.

[normalice]

But again you don't have any actual studies.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice You wouldn't be the best person to speak on that because as you've admitted you don't know what an "actual study is"

[normalice]

Of course I didn't do any such thing in real life. But I can see how your brain condition would get you to hallucinate that.

[Vegasrunner]

@normalice Yes, I'm away you've never conducted an actual study.

[DummyThiccFeraligatr]

Other than inheritance laws and some minor tax incentives, there's no benefit to getting married. Nowadays, a man can access all the perks from a long-term, committed girlfriend that used to be in the wife package.

[boggboss]

Their are studies for both sides on this with no conclusive right or wrong

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss Have you seen any that have outlined the benifits of marriage for men? If so what are they?

[boggboss]

From the studies I have glanced over married men tend to show higher levels of happiness and tend to be healthier although I'm not sure on the sample sizes for this

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss Thanks, happiness is an intangible metric. Health is a good one though.

[boggboss]

Ofc its intangible but its still somthing that we rate in current times and ways to be happier

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss But you're weighing that against tangible benifits to women.

[boggboss]

No im not I was simply stating that their are benefits for men

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss The original question asked if there were benifits for women.

[boggboss]

True but it was connected to somthing I simply sae as false but fair enough

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss It just goes to show how hard people try to fight to turn men into pussies

[boggboss]

How so dont see how getting married makes a man a pussy

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss I understand your confusion. The original question asked about benifits for women, however u choose to focus on why men should get married, in an attempt to bully men into making a poor decision. This is a microcosm of what happens in the world. Many men (pussies) fall susceptible to this rhetoric. You completely ignored the question in attempt to apply more pressure to men, which tells me you inherently understand most men recognize no benifit in marriage.

[boggboss]

How was i trying to pressure men to marry where did I say men should marry I stated that your comment about studies showing no benefit to males getting married was incorrect which still stands I never even stated men should get married simply that a comment was wrong

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss Excellent question. The question ask for benifits for women, yet you have decided to focus on the benifit for men meaning you inherently understand that woman receive the majority of tangible benifits from woman. The pressure comes from attempting to pretend as if there's value in men getting married by listing intangible benifits no one asked for.

[boggboss]

Who stated that women don't benefit from the majority of it I simply questioned the lie u made

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss Good so you realize that women see the ones that benifit from marriage.

[boggboss]

Like I said both do

[Vegasrunner]

@boggboss If that is true then why is it so difficult to provide tangible marriage benifits for men?

[catarecute]

love for a start but you wouldn't know i don't think you can love anyone you seem like a complete ****

[Vegasrunner]

@catarecute Love is intangible, do you have any tangible benifits?

[madhatters4]

what study?

there are tangible benefits to marriage for both parties. emotionally, financially, physically etc.

[madhatters4]

longer life expectancies
better overall health
higher reported levels of happiness
tax incentives
insurance and mortgage breaks
no taxes on "financial gifts" (which can be huge if you have lots of money)

i'm not saying get married for those benefits. but there are some measurable benefits for both men and women

[Vegasrunner]

@madhatters4 TY for this. Tax incentives cut both way so they're not a sole benifit for. "Financial Gifts" Tax benifit can be used by single people and sole proprietor LLC's so not really a benifit of marriage. Happiness is intangible, I would say life expectancy is tangible.

[madhatters4]

i was providing benefits for both sides. i don't really think there are big differences whether you are male or female. the benefits seem to be the same.

financial gifts are taxed at a much higher rate when it is between non-relatives. the tax threshold is lower between family members compared to non-family members. and there is no tax or threshold on a financial gift between spouses

happiness is certainly hard to gauge but the statistics are what they are and do represent something... although not conclusive

[Vegasrunner]

@madhatters4 Seems like there's a huge difference considering no one cam mame a tangible benifit that a man enjoys. The tax break comes from being related so it is not a benifit of marriage. You've also extrapolated that from something isn't necessarily a standard occurrence. For to even be a benifit you would have to receive a taxable financial gift.

[madhatters4]

you are not understanding. the benefits go both ways.
men and women have ZERO taxes in financial gifts. if you are a family member (son>father, grandparent>grandchild) there is a threshold at which point you are taxed.
men who are married have a longer life expectancy compared to men who are not married...

and so on. the benefits go both ways. i don't know if you don't understand, don't want to understand or simply are trolling but there are clear tangible benefits to being married for men and women... with that i'm done. on day 3 if it isn't clear i assume it won't be by day 4

[Vegasrunner]

@madhatters4 All that's clear is that you've provided one tangible benifit for MEN. Which is they live longer the rest of what you're sharing is either intangible or not a benifit solely for marriage. It's nothing wrong w/ not having any samples its why I ask the question.