Successful career women value successful men with high incomes. Are they foolish if they believe successful men value career women with high incomes?

Question

Sex differences in what men and women find attractive in an opposite sex partner have consistently shown that men have a preference for physically attractive women, with women showing a preference for men with wealth, power, and earning potential. Furthermore, women, more than men, have been found to settle for partners lower in terms of physical unattractiveness, provided they possess earning potential or wealth.

MrOracle · Accepted Answer

Yes. The vast majority of men - especially most very successful men - assign exactly ZERO value (well, that's not true - they often assign NEGATIVE value) to a woman's career, degrees, or income. Why? Because not only does he not need any of those things from her, especially if he's very successful himself, but also because those things tend to be in direct opposition to the things he wants in wife or serious relationship from a woman, which is a family-oriented woman who will give him children and ensure they are raised properly.

Career women tend to squander their fertile years on their careers, only considering children well into their 30s, which is AFTER the age that most successful men would consider being with her, because if he wants kids (and that's why most successful men would want a relationship, especially marriage), then he wants and needs a younger, more fertile woman.

This doesn't mean he's against her having a career - he's against her focusing on her career during her much smaller fertility window. She's going to have a window of time of between 40-50 years to have a career, but only 10-15 years to have children - and this window cannot be moved. Her career CAN be moved to AFTER she has children, though. The problem is that Feminism intentionally taught women to focus on their careers when they were young, because it was the stated goal of Feminism to destroy marriage and relationships between men and women in general.

When men are successful, they're more than happy to share their success with their family. When women are successful, they rarely share their success with their husbands - and if the man is already successful, he doesn't need her money anyway. Either way, her money is of no value to him. The only men who value a woman with a good career are men who don't have a good career themselves, and NEED another income.

The reality is that career women were lied to by Feminists who did NOT have women's best intentions in mind - they had FEMINISM's goals in mind, which are, essentially, the goals of the ruling elite, who think that the world is overpopulated and that the working class needs to go away (that would be you and me). You were certainly NOT set up for relationship success - quite the opposite, and that was intentional.

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bobby_bush_eater · Accepted Answer

As someone who is "successful" for my age I couldn't care less about how much a girl makes or her "value". I guess what would concern me would be a lack of motivation, doing nothing or having poor judgement/common sense in what they do.

I care far more about morals, values, beliefs, and goals (having a family). I plan to have a one income household and work for my future family but today that's too expensive for many people so they have to care about the women's success and income.

Additionally a lot of men are beginning to view women in a way of "what do you bring to the table if I work and you don't"? I think this completely underestimates the value of having a mother/wife at home but I am not the majority of men.

Avicenna · Answer

Well, not all do, but enough do that these women have options.

KatiaK_1996 · Answer

No. The only men who don’t care what a woman has going on are men who are selfish and, usually, broke. “Career” can encapsulate many things. Maybe she’s a figure skater, maybe she’s a banker or engineer, maybe she’s a doctor who saves lives, maybe she does social media marketing, maybe she writes to publish things from her desk at home. It takes on many forms and isn’t limited to something that’s very intensive and would take her attention away from everything else. Where am I going with this? When these men say “career women” they literally have in their mind a woman who only gives a shit about herself and just sits at a desk and makes tons of money who will regret it later. I don’t know ANY women in that position. I have friends who are doctors and married to a wonderful man, friends who are dating men who make as much or more money than them who support each other. Most of us have to also work multiple jobs because of inflation anyway. I know a lot of wealthy successful men (my boyfriend is also one) who treasure what a woman does and what she’s passionate about. A lot of them find it sexy if a woman is successful at her career and those men love to brag about it to friends. Of course she has other qualities he admires as well, so that’s not the only one. Women are multi-dimensional beings, blanket statements like “career women” is ridiculous because she may very well be multi-faceted and able to master so many things at once.
Moral of the story: stay away from men who say crap about women and their careers. They aren’t who you’d want to be around.

RingOfFire · Answer

I have a successful career and a high net worth. As far as money is concerned it makes no difference to me at all if she has it or not. Nor does whether or not she has a successful career... except to the extent that I find I am typically attracted to women with less money and without high powered careers. It's not about the money its about the role she prefers to play in the relationship. I believe that men are the providers and protectors in a natural relationship and find that women who are focused on their careers seem masculine to me and that isn't attractive.

The area I grew up in was high wealth and I always dated wealthy girls as a young man. I never even met girls from other parts of the social strata until after I graduated from college and lived in other places. Maybe its the allure of "opposites attract" that draws me but I have always found women from less affluent backgrounds far more interesting, appreciative, "real," and attractive than the type I dated in my youth.

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

There is nothing about a woman's income that I care about other than it is larger than what she spends. Bad financial habits and crippling debt are a turnoff. I've dated baristas before. I don't consider "successful" as dependent upon what you make. If that were the case than everyone in a high cost of living would be more successful than their counterpart in a low cost of living place. If you had the savvy to move to a low cost of living place I consider that more of a plus than a negative in your category. I dated a number of Soldiers and they were wildly successful and exemplary women, and it's not like the military pays crap.

RavVid · Answer

I am in agreement except a woman just needs to be attractive enough. A high income man will probably reach up the scale because he can. A woman's income just doesn't count.

Her career doesn't count except perhaps where it is a useful adjunct to his career. But being a good hostess might count a lot more if entertaining is an lubricant in his career.

A nice broke waitress could be a better deal than a high value career woman. In fact I think the HVCW would find it hard to compete against broke waitress especially if HVCW brought her career woman home.

We want cooperative, family oriented plus some other qualities. HVCW is likely to fail the first two listed.

SixFootSexy · Answer

Most men couldn't care less if a woman works at Chick-Fil-A if she's attractive enough and kind.

A man settles where he finds peace, that's why a wise man isn't looking to settle with a contentious, boss b*tch. I'll take a "my pleasure" over that any day of the week. Including Sundays.

Miristheiss · Answer

For the most part men don't care about your career at all or your income. It has nothing to do with whether we find you attractive and would want to pursue you or commit.

It is a non factor, in fact, if a woman is in sex work or she is too busy with her job and it makes her bitchy and disagreeable and she is stressed all the time, always called away because her job would be more important than any family then it makes her LESS attractive.

Most men just want a cute/pretty, sweet, personable, honest, loyal girl who is girly and feminine and brings peace.

Women obsess over a guys status/salary. Men are different. We don't care about your career.

JacobJordan · Answer

Yes. Without disclosing exact figures I have between $100m and $10b and I married a former waitress. What a woman does for work means absolutely nothing to me. In fact the less menial her job the more likely I am to consider her. I owned and worked in a laboratory and there were plenty of women that I employed. I also was around women that were lawyers, executives in large companies, etc many of them were single and many of them likely displayed interest (another story for another time suffice it to say I can't tell if someone is flirting at all) I was not attracted to any of them. I went to lunch one day and the waitress was this small gorgeous woman with very long dark brown hair. My brain just about short circuited seeing her. She was dressed modestly with no make up and a smile that could light up the dark side of the moon. I went back every day for 2 months until I was certain my feelings were genuine and not infatuation, lust, or obsession. Then asked her out

argot · Answer

Only losers look for money, wealth, and power in a potential mate, because they are incapable of those traits through their own volition. They have to live vicariously through someone else. Anyone who has money, wealth, or power will never take anyone serious that wants them for those traits. In fact they will see those sorts of people as dumb and weak and will have a natural inclination to exploit them. They are weak willed people that can be manipulated by shinny things like a fish chasing a tasty hook. Since men generally aren't dumb and weak, they don't tend to place much value on those traits in women.

Flatmanlewis · Answer

Are they foolish? No. I just think successful career driven women very often overestimate the value of their career to men. Men asses women based on a series of factors. I don’t think income is very high on the scale, for most men. In fact, the greater a man’s income, the more irrelevant hers becomes.

BonzoInBitburg · Answer

In my experience, successful career women aren't the best to date. I have my own business and work long hours so 2 people working long hours isn't a relationship. I found someone really smart but didn't like the corporate world. She stays home and helps me with some paperwork and keeping my business organized. She was burnt out and unemployed when I met her.

Anonymous · Answer

First off I loathe ayone who measures a person's value by wealth or education. I know people with high school educations and people with doctorates. I know people who make minimum wage and people who are literally millionaires and I value them all.

But no, I don't think women are foolish to think men value women with high incomes. But I do think women are foolish to think men place the same importance that women do on them.

I've said before I don't care if my partner makes 6 figures or minimum wage so long as she has a drive, a passion for what she does. I have enough to take care of us both (so long as she doesn't have caviar taste. But if she did we wouldn't be together anyways so I digress). She could just be a volunteer for all I care. What matters is passion. Because a life without purpose is no life at all.

patrick994 · Answer

Usually, men in business and women in business come between each other, they also look at physical appearance, but the economic situation weighs heavily when it comes to choosing a partner to be with.

Many rich and wealthy people wish to share the same opportunities and lifestyle, they rarely choose people from a lower social class.

DextroShade · Answer

Men and women look for different things in a partner: women are interested in a man's status and ability to provide resources (money) while men are interested in a woman's beauty, purity, and fertility. A woman's status and ability to procure resources are irrelevant to men especially if they are high value.

Berethor · Answer

Not totally, there is some power couples, but yea men tend to care more about looks.

DreamLife7 · Answer

It depends on the man. Average men on gag don't care because they don't have money. But men who come from old money usually likes to marry into another prestigious family in order to carry on the wealth. Just like royal families like to marry other royal families

standardguy · Answer

Depends if the men have a high financial intensive plan of investment.
I. e. if they want to buy a house they are happy if the wife joins in with high salary.

In normal situations, men feel sort of useless and not so important if the wife earns high salaries.

Anonymous · Answer

Yes. I've met many many men friends and lovers tell me they don't mind if a woman has a college education or a high earning career. I dated a lawyer once. I'm intelligent but no college degree. I'm a good hearted woman.

ChooChooHaha · Answer

Nope. That's why I'm trying to get my shit together before I ask someone out.

LiamJHayden · Answer

I've dated attorneys who make $250K+ whose budgeting was so bad that they were always broke. I've dated women who made less than $20/hr who had it all together. I prefer the latter.

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