I say the girl is allowed the wedding ring depending on length of relationship, if it is 1 month to 2 years after marriage then yes the ring goes to the man who bought it (assuming she didn’t propose to him first)
After 2 years I think it is hers anytime you end it.
That kind of ring is not like a present! That is suppose to symbolize something eternal like love. If she breaks it at any point than she broke the commitment the promise even if it was unspoken, and the ring should be returned to the guy if he demand it back.
I mean…. Depends honestly.
What if it ends in divorce, then maybe it isn’t worth even fighting for the ring.
How come the guy would want the ring back? I’m legit curious. Is it because he paid for it? Because wouldn’t it be weird if he got it back and gave it to someone else? Or unless he’s planning to pawn it off.
Honestly, I don’t know much about wedding rings. Maybe there’s more to it that I don’t know about besides just going to the jewelry store and buying a ring.
@Peridot25 most of them are very expensive. They probably wouldn't want her to keep something that he payed thousands for and was meant a symbol of commitment if they broke up anyway. They probably want to get their money back.
Are you trying to argue in some way that he DOES NOT have the right for the ring back?
@foxsquirrell it’s funny I was asking questions because I didn’t understand and here you are blowing up on me WHILE @avery58 was able to calmly answer my questions like an adult.
No such a ring is not a gift madam! Which planet are you from? That is symbolic of love and commitment. If she breaks the commitment on her side then the ring is returned if it is demanded.
Sometimes they return it willingly because they do not want anything to remind them of him.
Because I think its so obvious and you kind of pissed me off a little bit.
I don't know about adult conversations or not. Don't take it too personal, I answered in almost the same way to the other guy too down below. He also pissed me off because his arguing is silly.
No, it depends only on me not the Mrs too, if the Mrs is the one who wants to leave or who I caught cheating. That was the whole point of this question.
We don't have to fight this much really. I did not say anything bad about you for example.
So thank you for your answer.
Did you vote by the way?
@Peridot25 That's crazy to me. I'm now even more bewildered about why wedding rings are so popular.
If they break up for any reason the ring should be returned.
The whole point of accepting it is an indication/promise to be wed. If you break up then it’s void. Just return it. What’s the reason for keeping it?
Yes. The Law states he is entitled to his ring back under those conditions. She is legally obliged to return the ring within 7 days of the request, or she can be sued!
I learned that from a Judge Judy Case!
Oh nice. Good to know and thanks for sharing.
You're welcome, although it doesn't come to that!
Unless you do like my ex and propose on Christmas. The judge let her keep it because it was “a Christmas gift”
@DizzyDesii Really? lol Bless her I never saw that one! She always makes me laugh though.
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Nope. That’s not how gifts work.
The legalities surrounding the return of a wedding ring in the event of divorce or infidelity can vary depending on the jurisdiction and specific circumstances. In some places, laws may dictate that an engagement or wedding ring is considered a conditional gift, meaning it becomes the property of the recipient once they have fulfilled certain conditions, such as getting married. If the marriage ends in divorce or if one partner was unfaithful, this condition may no longer be met.
In such cases, it's advisable to consult with a legal professional to understand your rights and options regarding the return of a wedding ring. Disputes over personal property like this can be complex and emotionally charged, so seeking legal guidance can help you navigate these situations effectively. It's also important to consider any sentimental value attached to the ring and approach discussions with empathy and understanding.
Ultimately, whether a person has a "right" to get their wedding ring back will depend on various factors including local laws, prenuptial agreements (if applicable), and individual circumstances within their relationship.
I dont even like rings like that and I still wouldn't give it back. The only way i’d return a ring is if its a family heirloom. Other than that, don’t give something that you for sure shouldn't expect back. My most recent ex was mad he didn't get the ring back from his ex fiance. I didn't feel bad because it wasn't a family heirloom. And after i found out about all his lies, im glad she got to keep it. Turns out he bought it on her dads credit card. So now she keeps the ring and he still has to pay on the bill. Laughable. I’ve never asked for a gift back from anyone.
What do you mean you don't even like rings like that, but then you would't give it back?
If you give someone something, don’t expect it back. I’m more into bracelets and dog tags. When in a relationship, we’ve gotten eachother custom jewelry engraved with our names, initials, anniversary dates, etc. When we break up, we don’t ask for that back no matter how expensive. An engagement/wedding ring may symbolize more, but the giver still should not have a right to take it back UNLESS it was a family heirloom that like grandma/grandpa passed down to mom/dad and so on
You are saying yourself that the engagement ring is symbolic, if she leaves or betrays then she ought to give that ring back! Jeeze.
Actually I'd say that he would be entitled for more if its her fault, because the guy would have been doing things and going out of his way for HER, because he thought that she loved him!
The least she can give back BY RIGHT is the engagement ring!
If it is a family heirloom then I don't think he would be using it as an engagement ring in the first place, but that is another subject.
A lot of people propose with family heirlooms. Thats more meaningful. A lot of guys say “my grandpa gave this to my grandma. My dad gave this to my mom. And now i want to give this to you.” I mean listen, im all for prenups or whatever but i dont think rings should be returned unless its an heirloom. I wouldn't care if the ring cost $5 or was handmade by him for free. he's not getting it back
I'm guessing that you have already been in this situation where you did not want to give him the ring back. Why would you want to keep the ring if you broke up with him? Let me assume that you broke up with him.
I would take you to court and we'll see what you will not do.
I let guys know from the get go that i wouldn't give the ring back (plus i have no intentions of breaking up). I’ve only dated one guy who expected the ring back and as i said, he lost the court case because he gave his ex the ring on Christmas and the court considered it a Christmas gift. I would never go to court over something so materialistic. If he stooped that low then i guess i’d have to take it to hell
Then its best not to buy you a very expensive one. LOL
I can't believe it that you find people with your view on such an obvious matter.
You may say that you would not give the ring back, but only a fool will accept such a condition. Or someone who does not take things seriously himself. Because you know what, often times you girls don't like guys of integrity (good guys), you like cheap souls like you who have no values, have no integrity and are simply not made up to have them.
I like good guys and i have morals and values. You are the type to insult people who dont agree with you. But carry on. Im unphased
Yes the guy has the right, I say this because I came from a 10 year relationship and I was engaged 3 years prior to our 10 year relationship, he was my high school relationship and we drifted apart and we were communicating so I took it upon myself to end it, I gave him his engagement ring back because he worked hard to get that ring and all his life savings went into it so yes the guy has the right to have it back, do I miss it yes, only bc of so many memories poured into it not for the money or the Dimond it's the memories I held on to.
Yes of course, the ring is a promise if that promise is broken (even if they just break up for any reason) why would you want to keep the ring? I don't think the next partner would be okay with a woman still wearing it. My dignity would never allow me to even think of keeping it.
The Engagement ring is the symbol of a promise of marriage it is also known as a betrothal ring, is a ring indicating that the person wearing it is engaged to be married, especially in Western cultures. The ring is presented to their prospective spouse when they propose marriage to represent a formal agreement to future marriage, until recently the ring remained the property of the person who proposed usually the Man, but in a number of court cases judges have adjudicated that the Engagement ring was a "Gift", after these judgements is it any wonder that the "Good Men" are no longer are even considering engagements let alone marriage.
By law the girl has to return the engagement ring if they don't make it to marriage. But after being married then she legally gets to keep it.
In my own opinion, if she cheats then the guy should definitely get the ring back. Now if she decides to leave him, then that depends on the reasons she's leaving him, like him cheating and so on.
Yes that's true the reasons for leaving must be strong to justify her keeping the ring. When I first posed the question by leaving I mean just because she found someone else or simply because she no longer feels good with the guy.
Too add, in my opinion if they are married not only the ring but even be liable for more damages if she has an affair for example. And of course it will apply to the guy as well. i. e if he has an affair then she can divorce him on that grounds alone all costs for the guy, plus compensation for her.
He paid for it, didn't he? And diamond rings are expensive. And if she leaves him or cheats on him, obviously the ring doesn't mean anything to her. I think it's pretty rank for a girl to try to keep an engagement ring after leaving or cheating on him! It belongs to him, as he thought you belonged to him.
USA only: In every state except Montana, the engagement ring is a conditional gift. If the giver violates the conditions, she might be able to keep it. If she does, she needs to return it.
That sounds very good. Conditional gift! Exactly. See, for all of you out there who are voting no or arguing against this right, they even wrote the law this way.
No right, regardless of what happens; you have given it to her
You can always request the ring back, of course; but there's nothing you can do when she says 'no'.
When I was unpacking my things after I had moved into my new property after my ex had cast me aside I found the engagement ring tossed in with all other little items (she hasn't exactly taken much care with my, few, possessions while preparing them for me).
The engagement ring wasn't expensive; the ring I chose had some symbolism to us (*)... I took a hammer to it, smashed the ring up and chucked in the bin.
That's how much I care about getting the engagement ring, or would I have been married, the Wedding ring back... absolutely not.
(*) We had met in World of Warcraft in 2006; so the ring I had bought was a World of Warcraft ring. Should have really been an Alliance one, because we met on the Alliance side; but we've playing on the Horde side more. The ring was black, with dark red gemstones and the Horde symbol; only about $100, I've paid £79 for it.
If you're worried or care a lot then you should put that in a prenup, or some other formal agreement. It's important to insure things you care about, even if they aren't alive things like pets or kids.
Wedding no but fiance ring yes, in France there's no laws but there's a tradition of giving back the fiance ring when the wedding is off. It's mostly made to symbolize the end of the relationship and how the woman will never comeback.
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Yes but the big problem is enforcing it legally. All she has to say is what ring or that she gave it back already.
Sure. But what does she get of his if he decides to leave or is unfaithful?
Nothing. Because you don't buy any rings. Simple.
Good bye.
If it was equality then you would also give something to start with! (What do you have to say about that girl?) But its not how it goes right?
And my whole question is about she leaving or betraying him. In that case she has to give it back.
If he betrays her, then I might consider that she can keep the ring if she does not want to throw it at him. lol
O. K its a deal. 🤝
You wanna keep the ring, you gotta stay married and loyal!!
I think so, absolutely
Exactly. I think so to. I wonder if they actually took the trouble to include it somewhere in the law books just in case she does not want to give it back.
It's case by case
Personally as long as I'm buying it, I don't care who has what but I do prefer wedding rings because they're easy
If she won't return it she should be locked up on grand larceny charges.
lol.
Legally, its a gift and thats the end of it. Ill follow the law.
They see it a payment for services rendered. Nothing is free.
loll I tell her what service rendered are being paid. In that case she pays the ring back for the emotional and physical damage she inflicted. lol
No matter how it ends, if he bought the ring, it goes back to him.
The ring isn't really hers by law. If she's unfaithful or doesn't want to get married anymore, give the guy his ring back.
She broke her promise, she deserves to keep nothing.
So far she is not in relationship with a boy, she must return Wedding ring to boy
No the ring is a gift to her
Absolutely if it's her fault
He bought it, she left. it's now not hers
absolutely
Yep.
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