If there is an engagement ring, the purchased by the man and given to the woman who gets to keep the ring with the engagement breaks up?

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JacobJordan · Accepted Answer

To my understanding legally the engagement ring is an acceptance of a verbal contract. As such ending the verbal contract means the ring goes back to the asker of "will you marry me" would be fairly easy to get court backing if need be I would wager as well

BonzoInBitburg · Accepted Answer

An engagement ring is given with strings attached. It's not a gift, it's a commitment and only an entitled women would think its ok to keep it. A good woman would give it back without hesitation

OlderAndWiser · Answer

In the US, the law varies from state to state, but the law on this particular subject is rather consistent. An engagement ring is a gift given subject to a condition subsequent; I give you this ring on the condition that you will marry me. If the recipient does not marry me - even if I initiate a break up - the ring must be returned to me.

Apple1996 · Answer

It was technically a gift so the woman should keep it

BeeNee · Answer

Legally speaking, many states (NOT ALL) consider an engagement ring a conditional gift, the condition being that the couple get married, so regardless of who breaks it off with whom prior to the wedding, should the matter go to court, the ring must be returned if there is no marriage. However this does not apply to states that do not consider this a conditional gift. In some states it does depend on who called off the wedding--that person either having to give up the ring or they would not be able to reclaim it. Other states consider an engagement ring as a gift regardless if the marriage goes through, and thus it cannot be reclaimed.

Once married however, the ring is considered a gift and the property of the bride or groom in the case of a gay marriage even in cases where the marriage only lasts a few months. The giver of the ring cannot get the ring back with one exception. In the case of heirloom rings handed down through generations, judges tend to take this into consideration and often require those rings to be given back in case of dissolution of the engagement or divorce, regardless of circumstances.

Julie_TS · Answer

Ok, so... this is kinda tricky and I can see both sides of this argument. If purchased and given i feel that if a breakup occurs, the woman has no obligation to return it. Likewise, I feel the man has no right to ask for it back.

That said, I personally believe I would not want to keep it. My feeling being that while it was a gift, it was given with the intent of a life long commitment. Obviously when the breakup occurs that commitment is null & void. Now, if other jewelry type gifts were given (earrings, necklace, etc) there would def be no hesitation to keep those.

Flatmanlewis · Answer

Women absolutely, 100%, without any debate, see the symbolic significance of an engagement ring. It’s the one thing every single woman who receives one, immediately shares the news with anybody & everybody. To later backtrack and say it’s just a gift and not symbolic of a deeper commitment and agreement would be either lying for the opportunity to keep the ring for monetary reasons or just plain. (If this were not true engagement rings wouldn’t be diamonds and worth ‘three month’s salary’; a jewelry industry line if I ever heard one!)

Having said that, I’d say if she breaks off the engagement she’s morally (and in some states, legally) obligated to return it. If he does, particularly if he’s unfaithful, he forfeits the ring since he’s the one who disrespected and disregarded the symbolism of the ring to begin with. Of course, this is just my opinion.

WindAtMyBack · Answer

In the US, I think there is a difference from one state to another. As others have mentioned it's treated like a contract, but I don't think that is true in every state. The ring is conditional as part of a contract. If the other part of the contract is not fulfilled, then the ring must be returned.

Again, it depends on the state, and you'd have to look up individual states to find out for sure.

Something slightly related to this is weather a parent's gift to a minor child can be taken back by the parent. For example the parent gives their kid an Xbox, but the kid plays games all night and doesn't do their homework. Can the parent take the Xbox from the kid? This is also mixed and depends on the jurisdiction.

bolverk · Answer

An Engagement ring is the symbol of the promise to marry, It has always remained the property of the man until very recently, when in the UK Section 3(3) of the Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1970 specifies that an engagement ring should be regarded as an ‘absolute gift’ and, as such, belongs to the person to whom it was given. The law takes no account of which partner calls off the engagement, so regardless of who broke off the relationship, the ring does not have to be given back.

lightbulb27 · Answer

it's hers unless she hands it back. store isn't gonna take it back, they are smarter than that. it's an over priced rock... dug out by the sweat of indentured slaves... ahem, miners.

That's why you go on vacation instead...

and don't get me started on weddings... e. g. sign papers and go on an amazing adventure for $20,000... or several!

exitseven · Answer

I think that there is controversy about this. If the guy breaks it off then the girl keeps the ring. If the girl breaks it off she has to give the ring back. To make it more complicated I have heard people say that it the ring is a family heirloom she should always give it back.

silyt_ghoest · Answer

put it in a cake and throw a party. Whoever finds the ring keeps it, whether it be guest or one of the two parties, and that's how you announce you're calling off the engagement! As Marie Antoinnette once said "Let them eat Brioche!", which is very close to cake.

starfoxxy64 · Answer

I actually found out their many States like in the USA that have laws on about protect the people who broke the engagement off first.

https://worldpopulationreview. com/state-rankings/engagement-ring-laws-by-state

Which in my case my ex boyfriend was actually cheating on me with that homewearker female and NEVER asked the judge to get the rings since he claimed that the female who actually gotten every thing which much be great for be a lier to the judge & Court system.

EmmaMary · Answer

@msc545  Here in the UK if the woman breaks up the engagement, she is legally required to hand the ring back. However, very seldom does the man seem to seek taking any actual legal action.

DextroShade · Answer

The ring represents a contract, so if she breaks it she has to give it back. If I had a bitch break an engagement on me and refuse to return the ring I would report her to the police for theft, and if that didn't work I would simply take it back by force.

strateguy632 · Answer

given for a purpose, the gift was a "mistake" not like a birthday present. but gals don't think about the circumstances.

in fiction she doesn't want the reminder when separated. gives back, but just fiction.

TommyMountainFigure · Answer

I wouldn't want the ring back personally. If it was given in good faith at the time, then events happening AFTER are irrelevant to me. She could do what she liked with it!

Agape93 · Answer

She does. He bought it and gave it to her. If you buy anyone a gift and give it to em, that person now owns it.

sheikalana · Answer

I would give the ring back solely because I don't want to be reminded of someone who's now my ex. But is not mandatory to give the ring back as it was given to you.

steveusna · Answer

I think there is established case law on this. The man will get the ring back if he goes to court.

dustybiker2 · Answer

I would give it back, personally. But I am fair.

laly520 · Answer

she isn't obliged to return it but most of girls I know do return it

jamesgoldman · Answer

Legally/morally/traditionally the breaker surrenders their half so if he cheats it's hers and the inverse applies
If she throws it at him then it's his (or whoever finds it if it ends up in a lake etc.)

Only exception is if it's a heirloom then usually it is the line to buy it back from the other party unless they will fully surrender it

spartan55 · Answer

The ring should be returned if the woman ends the engagement.

IslaTheWitch · Answer

yes, I see it that way... at least I would return it

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

I never knew it would be recognized a gift?

BadApple69 · Answer

The man can and should get the ring back.

Phoenix98 · Answer

Lol no I'd be taking that ring back.

OtterMan68 · Answer

The man GAVE the ring to the woman. It's hers for as long as she wants it.

NathanDavis · Answer

a gift is given... not lent

andreasderjuengere · Answer

Cut it in half and let both have a piece?

Drumlin2001 · Answer

She should return it

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