+1 yI have AS too. I found out when I was 21. I've spent the last 4 years working hard at what I was able to change considered social "negatives" and other previous strengths I developed further. I can honestly say I was once like you in terms of verbal expression. The only cure to this is exposure to your fears. Expose yourself to women, to public settings, to different people and perspectives. I sought help from many professionals but AS has only been in the medical books since '94. Most psychologists misdiagnose people with AS just so they can pin a name to symptoms based on theory. Find yourself a behavioral psychologist and a neural psychologist EXPERIENCED in AS. Do your own thorough research on psychology and definitely read as much as possible on body language. Don't change your ideals or your morals, but if you want people to understand you there has to be compromise. The people around you will not bother clarifying your positions or what you say (to them they feel as if your different from them and other "normal" people, and would rather dismiss you as "odd" or "different"), it's up to YOU to change if you want the wonderful gift of social communication and emotional connection with those you love and care for. Above all else, don't give up, you do have benefits over most and impairments under most, but you do need to humble yourself. I'm not Your language and expression, as shown in your post, is very generalized, absolutist, and one-sided and exudes arrogance and to those that are experienced in communication you may come off as socially (maybe even sexually, as is the case) inexperienced. I'm not saying your a narcissist, but like me and how I spoke and expressed myself prior, that's how I was viewed, when in fact, we feel quite the opposite. If you do however, understand that you're not special, and not some gift of God from the rest and definitely not ahead of the evolutionary curve (as many AS people tend to think and find justification in solitude and the single life in the belief that this world wasn't made to understand them). It's not like you have Down Syndrome, for them, understanding other people should not be their priority, it's our job to accommodate THEM to an extent based on their condition. You were given all the tools you need to adapt and integrate within society, it's up to YOU. Realize where you go wrong, ask the opinion of friends on how you act, tell them you need their honesty and that your feelings will not get hurt when they say the truth. That it's important so that both of you and your relationship with everyone else can improve for the better. You can change, people change, I'm proud to be living proof of that. Feel free to ask me questions in regards to Aspergers or how to attract women. If you just found out about Asperger's I feel there's other social problems that need to be adjusted before getting tips on how to get the girl. Regardless, I'm here to help. Regards
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This may or may not make sense but you just have to have an attitude of F them. Who cares if they don`t like you? Charlie sheen gets burned and turned down too and so does every ladies man. As odd as this sounds, for the most part women want a guy who is`nt instantly in love with them. It will take a little time and study but you will get the hang of it.
I beleive I might have the same condition but I never went to a doctor. Put up and shut up is what I was always told and you should. I don`t like dealing with people but they have what I want (money, sex, and knowledge). My wants outweigh my dislike for human interaction so I have a game face. I can instantly become very charming and almost always make out with a girl at a bar.
It took a lot of time and research though. About 6-9 months to make good progress. Watch movies that the public likes like wedding crashers find out why people are attracted to certain people and you can duplicate theese traits to get what you want.
I`m not gunna lie you will probably never be good at relationships but if you do your homework, you can keep from missing out on things in life. Like doing good at job interviews, or hooking up a few times a year (or way more if you wanna keep the game face going even though it is tiring to not be yourself ). Anyway, watch movies and tv shows that the public likes and learn to duplicate the traits that they like. This will be the tool that you need to be sucessfull in life.15 Reply
Asker+1 ySeriously, girls, they just have to be cute or pretty, look good, in order to be girlfriend material, to attract a guy, that's all they need, literally. Girls just have to be perfect in the looks department, meanwhile us guys have to be perfect everything or almost everything, we have to walk right, stand right, sit right, breathe right, think right, talk right, have the right attitude, mentality, social skills, conversation skills, way of thinking, etc.
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FALSE. Girls don't have it that much easier than guys. When you think about the pressure girls have about looks, WE AGE and are no longer considered pretty. There's a time limit. Not to mention, there are many girls who aren't conventionally pretty who do get asked out. I have many beautiful friends and most of them do not get asked out.
Change your attitude about girls, right now, I see you viewing girls as nothing more than pretty faced sex objects. - +1 y
(I direct all questions / comments to the asker.)
It's also insulting if you think that girls only have to look good to get dates. We're not cutesy accessories to men. I stand by my opinion that your perception is warped. This will be the exact attitude that will make you dateless. Stop treating women as emotionless and demanding beauties who expect guys to be perfect and ideal. Most people do not have this expectation, or if they do, it's only the dumb women you don't want anyway.
Asker+1 yMan life sure gets harder as you get older
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She's right about the aging thing and that hot women don't get asked out because they intimidate weaker men. But the asker is right in that men go for looks first, and they don't have to try harder. A woman can find men quite easily, it's just a matter of there are few men that she actually wants for her. That's understandable. The asker is just in a bad place and he wants a way out. I've been there.
Maybe buy some books on socializing or check out the web. With anything, you'll need to study and to practice. Perhaps there are some message boards for people with Asperger's. I saw a couple on television who both had it, actually. They somehow devised a strategy that worked perfectly for them. Advice from people who have experienced your specific challenges would be most helpful.
Also, women do have to overcome social anxiety. I get really nervous sometimes and it effects my body language, my conversation skills, even leaving the house to go to places to actually meet guys! Not trying to minimize your pain, just trying to show you some sympathy that girls actually do understand. It's not as easy as it looks. Sometimes even beautiful girls who get lots of immediate attention blow it easily because they get flustered and drive the guy away on accident.
Also, I know it sucks to have an extra challenge because dating is hard enough as it is. However, there are many people (girls and guys) facing a similar issue. For instance, I have a gal pal who has trouble finding dates because she has Cerebal Palsy. She's gritty as can be, but guys often shy away from her thinking she's "broken." She's so upbeat, though. She told me that she might not have much of a chance to find love, but she knows she won't have a chance at all if she doesn't try.45 Reply
Asker+1 yYeah but since us guys have to take the initiative and make the first move, ask the girl out, that is why male aspies have it harder than female aspies, because it makes us socially clumsy and awkward.
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Well how hard would it be to write a letter telling a female that you like her and would possibly like to date her?
Asker+1 yIsn't sending letters more of a high school thing?
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I agree, there is some favor stacked generally in women's favor as far as "Step 1: Get into a Conversation" ... but not as much as you feel there is. Someone with social anxiety, for instance won't go anywhere to meet people or will look so closed off that nobody would notice them. Everyone has a battle to fight ... All I'm saying is to realize it can be hard for many if not all people. That makes your task of fighting the hard seem less overpowering. Don't give all thepower to the hard part
Asker+1 yMan it's so much easier for you women
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI believe this question was posted before on here somewhere. There will be girls who will be understanding of this condition (ex. me) and there will be girls who won't. But if you give up anyway, it's completely hopeless.
I am a girl with anxiety / social anxiety problems who LIKES a guy with asperger's. And let me tell you, it is quite frustrating to calm the anxiety and try to talk to a guy while he, in return, rarely approaches me. And I get mixed signals... but I guess it is my fault as well.. I suppose the best way is to slowly to start learning how to talk to girls. Even if it just means a greeting here and there, it's better than nothing and then slowly work your way up. It might be better to be friends with a girl first (but other problems will come from this sink or swim situation if you want romance after friendship).
Trust me, it's not all guys doing all the work or putting them selves out there. Traditionally yes, but it's 2010.
I also think my case is more distinct because I know this dude has AS. Whereas if a girl who does not know this might take the guy as he's not interested.212 Reply
Asker+1 ySo your saying that some girls do make the first move and ask guys out? well I believe that, but it's so rare that I'm not counting on it to happen
Opinion Owner+1 yGirls who fall in between being brave but not asking the guy is by giving GOOD hints to the guy and then wait for the guy to ask her out. And the girl will usually (unless she's so focused on something else) respond positively to you.
If she thinks you are oblivious, she may make stronger hints.
If she thinks you are no longer interested, she will avoid you (she's embarassed).
Shy girls mildly flirt but to them it can be a huge thing. Friendly gestures can = flirting for shy girls.
Opinion Owner+1 yI mean, shy girl's friendly gestures towards you may be viewed as flirting to her. If she's mature, she will do her best to NOT ignore you / avoid you even though I guarantee you those odd days of mixed messages where she does avoid or ignore you.
If this is bothering you, find a bold girl who isn't shy and is direct. It does get better IF you take the right steps.
If you are getting positive flirting reactions from girls, then you've got nothing to lose in asking them out 80% of da time.
Asker+1 yYeah but it's so damn hard, I just can't tell if a girl is just being nice and friendly to me, or if she actually likes me, it's just so confusing.
Opinion Owner+1 yI suggest the solution is just to ask her out and risk rejection.. or get feedback from friends. I guarantee you rejection is going to occur at least a couple of times in your life no matter who you are.
Asker+1 yI just don't want to ask her out too soon, because that looks desperate and needy, and girls can sense that crap easily and it obviously turns them off a lot, and I don't want to ask out too late, because then she might lose interest, I could get stuck in the friend zone, or some other guy can ask her out before I get the chance, haven't you heard the saying "you snooze you lose?"
Opinion Owner+1 yIf you don't want to face rejection, by all means don't, then just give up. Did you come on this website to defend WHY you are the way you are socially OR did you come here to listen to advice and apply it in real life. From what I've read, you are just on this website to defend yourself. With this attitude I guarantee you NO GIRL WILL SEE YOU AS SOMEONE FUN TO BE AROUND WITH.
Whats the diff. between rejected by someone and not ask someone out? You get the same results... no date.
Opinion Owner+1 ySo then when is the right time to ask a girl out? Guess what?
If you ask her too late, a guy WILL pursue her eventually and YOU WILL lose a chance if you sit there.
If you ask her too soon, then you MIGHT look desperate but may get a date.
If you don't ask her out at all, you already lost before attempting.
By the way, girls have a lot more pressure to look amazing. It is not true girls just sit ont heir butts to wait for a guy, they go out and flirt too.
Opinion Owner+1 yI've seen you post this question on Yahooanswers. You have an exceptionally warped view on girls. You really only have two options;
1. Find help and don't give up.
2. Give up and sit on your butt and hope some girl will ask you out.
Don't let your ego get in the way of asking someone out. In the world of dating, nothing is certain. I also suggest this website (the asperger's syndrome forum):
psychforums.com.
It is not the end of the world IF you get rejected at all.
Asker+1 yI don't even go on Yahoo Answers, what are you talking about?
Opinion Owner+1 yOh... okay.... Sorry then. someone posted an extremely similar post on there.
Asker+1 yThe thing I hate more than being rejected is getting teased or lead on, like when a girl initially makes me think I have a chance with her, but then rejects my further advances on her, you know the advances such as trying to lead up to a date or relationship, I wish a girl would just reject me instantly. This has happend many times to me, like a girl will let me have her real phone number, but she won't answer or call back, and not text me back either.
+1 yi think my boyfriend has asperger syndrome. He has low social skills, he has like one friend. he's a looner but he's so so smart.
"Seriously, it's way easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than for a guy to get a girlfriend"
"Yeah but us guys always have to initiate, which I don't like"
"Yeah but it hurts guys more since us guys always have to initiate"
"It's just hard for me since I'm a guy and us guys always or usually have to make the first move and initiate, it's tradition."
and it goes on :P
for gods sake, don't be that stubborn and pessimist lol you don't have to always make the first move, eveybody is telling you.
I really don't care about a guy social skills if he's smart, funny and confident.
Its a really interesting topic and id like to help you the best I can, so if you wanna talk about it message me because I hate writing long answers lol
Anyway good luck :)12 Reply
Asker+1 ywhat do you mean us guys don't always have to make the first move?
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I mean that some girls do make the first move sometimes. I don't wanna be harsh but it depends on your look.
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+1 yDude rejection is NOT a reason to stop trying. I learned the hard way. I just hit the drinking age and some friends tok me, out to a club. I took every rejection hard. Finally I just stopped caring, now if I get shot down, its like whatever I ll go find someone else who does want to talk to me. The other night I was in club I went 2 and 15. out of 17 girls, I only had actually conversation/dances/drinks with two. Then other nights it seems you can't miss. You only get better through trial and error. If you get shot down its a "meh guess that didn't work, won't try that again" Different techniques work for different guys when it comes to girls. All you need is the confidence to approach them and you need to learn the approach that works for you. You want my advice, wingman along with some guys who are good at talking with girls,you can learn by watching and also get a little experience. If its just the initial approach, always wingman off a guy. I have friends who do that, I make the move as the confident funny guy, and they slide in as my friend. Ill lead them in for girls I'm not interested in. I understand what you have is a condition and that makes it more difficult for you. Play your strengths, if even if you are a shy guy, there are girls out there for you someone, you just got to look.
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Asker+1 yGosh, seriously, women seem to have the advantage
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Lol strength in numbers lol.. in fairness they have to put up with being approached by the creeps of the world
Asker+1 yYeah but all they have to do is welcome advances or deny them
+1 yhey mate I live in australia and we have a guy at our work with aspergers I'm a builder he has no problem talking (he never shuts up) its more he keeps repeating his conversation, socially he doesn't go out he always tells me about the train set he got, he tells me he has no interest in going out he's 20 btw and that one big reason he can't get a girl. when girls come on site he seem to be all ohh there's a girl on site sh*t instead of being cool and calm its just a girl and when he talks to them he talks about computer or trains (its a boring convo) I know its easier said then done because we have nothing wrong with us and people should be greatful for that but I think being confident with your self try find someone that has something in common with you, don't worry what people think, convo tips be simple say something like heyyy how are you? how was your day?, what do you do on weekends? things like that, just try be relaxed.
i hoped I helped in some way and I'm sure you will find what you want in time ...peace mate take care and go get those ladies10 ReplySince i have Asperger Syndrome+ADHD/ADD i can try my best to answer your question.
The answer to your question is NO because just because we have an disability doesn't make us incapable to date or bee loved or love another person. But the struggle is always present in our life.
So i would also ask you a question:
1. Does your insecurity and pride ask the questions?
2. Or do you as a wonderful and valuable human being ask this question?
I`m 23 years old and have never had sex or a relationship with a girl.
I have always wanted to give up, but haven't?
I just say to myself that i`m valuable and good enough for myself and others. And it`s better to be picky and independent when being in a relationship than getting a girlfriend that abuse you because you wanted a relationship so badly.
So my answer to you, my fellow aspie.. Never give up in love, but also never let it consume and destroy you because of loneliness and curiosity after a relationship.
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+1 yI hate how we have to initiate everything too, but it is what it is and you'll have to accept it. You might have to hit bottom. I mean rock bottom. At which point you will become kind of bitter and angry, and then stop caring in general. That's kind of helpful, because you won't be as nervous or shy about doing things your way. I also suggest the best advice I've ever gotten on how to handle a challenge or seemingly impossible task is to take it small step by small step. You have all the time in the world. So if you take incremental steps in changing one thing about your looks, or your personality, you will eventually become the person you want to be.
In other words, "Onwards, through the fog!" Always go forward my friend. Never quit.14 Reply
Asker+1 yYeah, it is so much easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than it is for a guy to get a girlfriend
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Sure, but I'm assuming you're around my age (23) and if you've spent long enough lemme tell you a secret. Girls are glad just to find a guy that has a JOB, isn't living with mom, and has a CAR. You just have to have your stuff together. That's the first step, but it really means a lot. And at my age, there are so many women that have been knocked up and don't have a man, or they're looking for a driven guy like themselves. Girls like confident men. So just be yourself and screw the rest.
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Just to clarify, I suspect I have aspergers too. Because I'm not very good socially either. I have trouble empathizing with people and don't quite go along with societies morals and standards. Most people call me an ass, but at least I'm a smart ass. What helped me was looking at conversation as an equation. If I say x = y will happen. It's like a flow chart. And surrounding yourself with hot girls that are just friends goes along way to meeting other women too. Makes you look good.
Asker+1 yUs guys are simple, girls are not
+1 yWell, I'll tell you this... I was best friends with an Autistic boy in Kindergarten. I know that might not sound like much, but it meant a lot to him. I've always been a very accepting person. Teachers that knew me in elementary school still praise me for it. At the time, I didn't think anything of it. I just knew he was different and special, in a good way, and that's what attracts me to any given person. Also, I've had a mild case of Tourette's Syndrome my whole life, which is in that web of disorders. I never told anyone, even though they'd mock me for some symptoms they'd see, because I knew they wouldn't believe me or would ask why I don't shout obscene words, when that's only a rare symptom. Anyway, I've never dated a guy before, and I'm almost 19.
If you'd like to talk to me, feel free to add me so we can chat. I'm sure we could comfort or learn some things from each other. It would be nice to talk to someone with a perspective like yours.15 Reply
Asker+1 yYeah but it hurts guys more since us guys always have to initiate
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Thanks for ignoring everything I wrote. And it's not true that guys always have to initiate. You just haven't been around the right girls.
Asker+1 yYou have heard of a girl asking a guy out and making the first move?
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Yes. I've done it a few times. It might not have worked in my favor, but I've tried.
Asker+1 yWell good for you
My cousin is 21 and has had a girlfriend for about 1 year now actually. He also has aspergers. Mind you she has anxiety problems too (met at a job type thing for mentally impaired) anyway He has pretty high functioning but to be honest he is emotionally I still think at the level of a 12 year old but he manages. She is nice and understanding though I don't know what exactly her problem is. He never had a girl his entire High School career, he just didn't let it get to him. He says that he felt the same way for a time but he just kept going. He got a job (shelf stocker/cart retriever) It's not great but it gets him out and around people more. Look into getting some form of employment OR Volunteer work. Chicks love a man that volunteers (something with animals...keep the social anxiety on the DL) It took him awhile to find a job though just start small bud. I live with my cousin we're pretty close, tough it out it gets easier as you get older.
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Asker+1 yYeah but since us guys always or usually have to make the first move on the girl, start a conversation and ask her out, overall, initiate everything with girls, that makes it harder for Asperger Syndrome guys than for Asperger Syndrome girls. It's not a matter of being scared or lacking guts, it's just being socially clumsy and awkward, weird.
Asker+1 yUs guys have to initiate everything.
NO YOU SHOULDN'T! Obviously its not your fault because of your syndrome but , in my opinion, there are 2 things you can do: 1. PRACTICE! practice makes the master! even if you have AS you can learn how to increase your social skills, specially towards girls! or 2. Wait for the girl to approach you! Times have change a lot and here were I live girls usually approach guys. The only thing you need to do is to be on a place where they can see you and there you go! Go to the movies, church, park , etc... you never know where your dream girl will be ! :D
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Asker+1 ybut I'm not a normal guy
+1 yTake responsibility for what you can with Aspergers. You have a highly functioning brain, while it's understandable that you have a hard time socially you can't just let that be it. You CAN get social skills training and learn to improve and you can educate yourself about Aspergers and read books about it full of helpful tips and information. Don't just sit there and judge yourself or complain about it, you have it and that sucks but it's up to you to help make your life better and easier and you have the power to do that. Go for it!
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Asker+1 yThanks
+1 yNO!NEVER! Autism should not limit you! No matter how mild or extrem it may be. Did you know people with autism have EXTREMELY high IQs? They tend to excel in problem solving,puzzles, things that pick your brain. Not all women are social butterflies, at least I'm not. I am sure God has the perfect woman for you, she just hasn't found you yet. :) And you know what they say, when you stop looking for love, that's exactly when it finds you.
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Asker+1 yYeah since I'm a guy, guys can't stop looking for love since us guys have to do the pursuing and chasing, girls do not ask guys out you know.
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Uh yes they do!Atleast I'm not afraid to...i aske dmy ex boyfriend out...and I was nervous about it but he said yes because he was actually afraid to ask me...and I am just trying to be optimistic.There's no poit of looking for someone if you're going to doom everything to fail.
Asker+1 yReally? how long were you and your ex together?
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For about 14 months and I loved him...i still love hima nd probably always will and he is far from being "hot" but I did not care because he was sweet and he whanted me for who I am.
Asker+1 yWell that's good, because I hear from girls they say that if a girl asks a guy out and makes the first move, that the guy will not take the girl seriously, that the relationship will not last as long, well since you and your ex were together for more than a year, that's a great thing, you proved those other girls wrong.
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Some guys prefer that girls ask them out, they like the fact that they know what they want...and yes my ex he was my least attractive partner but he is my most loved ;)
Asker+1 yI wish more girls would ask guys out and make the first move, I hate how society and the media our culture says that we have to be a "man", "grow a pair", "take charge", "be the leader", that it's a Masculine thing, well for a lot of us guys it's not a matter of lacking guts or being scared, it's just not knowing how!!!
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Alright, well its 50/50 either she rejects you or accepts you...either one or the other. Try to appraoch a woman by saying "how are you?" "how was your day?" "You look beautiful" and just be sincere about it...trust me we can detect it. Whether you are being sincere or not. Just be you and from that point its out of your hands.Everything else will flow naturally...hoping this helps!
Asker+1 yYou girls can definetley read body language a lot better than us guys can
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MMM not me....i can't really tell if a guy is interested in me...i mean sadly to say my friends have to tell me or explain to me whether the "guy" is interested in me or not. Things like that sadly go over my head, when I ask someone out I'm usaukky taking a HUGE risk but I figure what the heck, might as well try.
Asker+1 yI hate how us guys always have to initiate, it's like we have to pass a test in order for us guys to be considered boyfriend material
abra's advice is wonderful and of course you shouldn't give up...If you think about it...We all have our own personal "syndromes" we have to work through and if the doctors had their was we would all have "labels". Facts are facts and you just need to put your energies into finding ways to deal with your frustrations. From the way you speak I think you present yourself very articulately. We all have to "practice" to achieve getting along with the opposit sex. One thing though, stop standing in your own way and you will do just fine. Trust me, you are not the only person that doesn't know how to communicate. Best of luck. Cheers!
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Asker+1 yYeah but it seems most guys have no problem being able to pull girls
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I disagree... That's a comment I hear from guys all the time... But I do agree with you... Girls need to take more responsibility when it comes to asking for dates, numbers, etc. It's a cultural thing and we are growing past that... Have you tried joining a dating site? To meet girls you could take a college class, join a club, etc... Even for girls it's hard to meet people...
Asker+1 yYeah but it seems that also girls make it hard for guys even if they are interested in them, like they feel the guy has to do all the talking and conversation, even if the girl wants to have a conversation with the girl, she feels he has to ask all the questions and keep the conversation going.
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I think that is an "age group" thing... When you're younger and lack experience we tend to be more shy... In those cases the girl is going to give you the lead because it's easier for her... Sorry but it's true. The older and wiser we get the easier those things become... But I'll say it again... Grab all the positive you can and get out there and deal with it... It's not going to go away and it's not going to change overnight. Believe in yourself and watch what happens!
Asker+1 yYeah but all those other guys out there make getting a date or girlfriend look so easy, it's like they were born with the confidence, and social skills in order to get a date or girlfriend, man I'm so jealous of them.
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Dude, they LEARNED how to do it, a lot of them are not born with confidence. They just happen to learn at an earlier age and take more risks. From the looks of it, you are not taking enough risks.
Asker+1 yReally? does it take practice for guys to get better at socializing and talking to girls and getting comfortable being around them? or are they instinctively born with it?
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI also have AB syndrome and know what it's like to be nervous in social situations. I am always afraid of saying the wrong thing or screwing up a convo but I still talk to people and try anyways. The best thing you can do is work you're way up. Make some friends, and have them introduce you to more friends until you become popular enough to know a lot of people. Keep making friends (not everyone is going to like you,I understand, but it's worth a try) and when you meet a girl you like, pretend she's your friend and ask her to hang out. Thing of it more of making a friend than going on a date because that's what dating really is, making a friend, then leting feelings take care of the rest. I hope I have helped you.
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Asker+1 yYeah but us guys always have to initiate, which I don't like
Opinion Owner+1 yNot always. I have iniatiated a lot of things with guys. You just have to keep thinking of them as your friend.
Asker+1 yYeah but how do you start talking to a girl without making her think you are hitting on her? flirting with her? Don't say "just talk to them as you would to your friends", because it's not that simple right because girls think different and interpret things differently than us guys do.
Opinion Owner+1 yNope they don't. I'm a girl, I would know. Everyone in general is different so you can't say there is a big seperation between the girls and the guys in this world. Yes, girls are a little bit more sensitive and moody at times because of their hormonal cycles but really all humans are the same. Just because you talk to a girl doesn't mean she'll automatically think you are hitting on her. Girls don't assume stuff as much as you think unless they're stupid. There's nothing different about girls.
Asker+1 yI really hate the status quo in our culture and society that us guys have to initiate, I know that it's just the way it is, I can accept it but that doesn't mean I have to like it or enjoy it
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Question asker, I KNOW what it's like to always keep trying and trying and trying and end up with the same results. >.> You get tired, frustrated and seem to think your efforts are meaningless. What you have to figure out is WHY your attempts never seem successful, but definitely realise that girls need more than beauty to get guys. It takes 2 people to be in a relationship, they are not just walking statues or trophies of adoration for guys.
Asker+1 yYes but how will I know what I am doing wrong? like what it is specifically that I am doing wrong when it comes to trying to getting a date or girlfriend?
Opinion Owner+1 yRead some books and internet articles on dating do's and don'ts!
Asker+1 ySeriously, I can't picture myself ever getting a girlfriend, because I feel that social skills, conversation skills, the initiating skills needed by us guys in order to attract girls, I feel that it's like this: a guy either has it or doesn't have it, like he has to be born with it
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Just as you feel like you don't have what it takes to initiate a conversation woth girls. I feel as though i do not have what it takes to attract a guy to want to ask me out. I have had a relationship before but i have no idea how things like that work. I wouldn't know how to be in another relationship. I see where you are coming from.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yI wouldn't give up but I would find a support group or a professional who understands Aspergers to help you get some ideas on how to deal with this. That is why you are getting all that unhelpful advice on here about "man up", because the average person has no understanding of your situation, so they can't help you. I just googled Asperger's and dating and saw some blogs and a book listed.
If you keep doing what you are doing, you will keep getting what you are getting. So, it's time to try something new.00 Replyhell no, man, never give up...i think you should try to get to know a girl first, like kinda be friends with her, and if that doesn't work out, at least then you'll know you can talk to women, talk to them on the internet first, because I find it much easier to be myself around someone I don't know if I'm not actually face to face with them...and if all else fails, just try to get some female friends, and let them give you some advice...good luck, buddy
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Asker+1 yHow do you become friends with a girl without making her think you are hitting on her?
I have it too, bad times. Don't give up, chances are someone will love you for who you are, even if you don't have great social skills. Don't shut out the outside world, it will only get harder from there. :)
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Asker+1 ySeriously, it's way easier for a girl to get a boyfriend than for a guy to get a girlfriend
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I agree with bunny420. I too have Asperger's. However, I don't let it stop me from enjoying life. Life's too short to worry about the negative things. Focus on the positives, not the negatives. Don't change who you are for anybody, unless it benefits you. I hope to one day meet someone that will love me for who I am regardless. I wish the same thing for you.
+1 yWatch the movie called 'Adam' link
and stop being so dang negative. Finding love is not easy for ANYONE, no matter what condition someone has or doesn't have.
Stop acting like the world is against only you. it's against everyone.
You won't find anyone with your attitude because you'll be too busy complaining to notice.02 Reply
Asker+1 yWell I stopped making updates a long time ago, but it's the truth, reality, there is the old saying that the truth hurts
Asker+1 yfinding love is not easy for anyone, that may be true but it's still easier for girls
+1 yhey darling I've never heard of asperger syndrome but yeah, well you should never ever give up one day you will find someone and you will know when you are in love, you have to keep trying because one day you are going to find someone amazing that you are truly in love with and communicating with women will become much easier for you . if you have msn tell me :) and we can talk on there , good luck mate , have a good one. xo from brittany :)
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Asker+1 yYeah well you don't know what its like so you can't really say
Do not give up!
My best friend's older brother has Asperger's. He's 18 and has had several girlfriends. Apart from that, he's Nordic and Danish champion in rowing singlesculler.
Don't let Asperger's get you down! Fight for it. As soon as you've given up, you've lost. Keep trying and it will happen.
I'm sorry but I can't give you any advice on how to approach women. Things happened differently for me and the 2 girls I've had something with. But I wish you the best of luck!10 ReplyYou probably need a matchmaker or a bridge perhaps? JK. Some girls prefer the shy type guy than the cocky one. You just have to wait for the right one :) Asperger Syndrome sounds new to me, it drives my attention and made me wanna meet one. Opposite attracts I guess
00 ReplyMy son (16) has Aspberger's syndrome. It hasn't stopped girls from avoiding him. In fact, he says that "he was the scrawniest kid in the 3rd grade." He had no problems with guys because the girls stuck up for him.
When he's at a dance, I've seen him dance by himself (probably because he's shy around girls).
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+1 ywell love is actually a big fat hairy lie people invent just to make their lives more interesting and because they want to justefy the idea of having sex on a regular basis.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm 20 and I've never found love either.
People will make you suffer so much you'll wish you never met them.12 Reply
Asker+1 yIt's just hard for me since I'm a guy and us guys always or usually have to make the first move and initiate, it's tradition.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yThe honest answer is: it depends on your level of disability and functioning. I'm of the opinion that only the highest-functioning make it.
Although there are websites, books, and blogs about this topic, they probably won't be enough. As some posters have recommended, professional assistance from someone experienced in ASDs would do you the most good -- if only to come to terms with your disability and its limitations. It's possible to have a satisfying life without romance, but your priorities will have to change.
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Asker+1 ymy case is high-functioning
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNEVER GIVE UP! You will meet the right one, It just might take longer for you to find a girl worthy of you and your aspergers. It takes a very special type of girl to match up to you. Cos not all girls are good enough to be with guys with aspergers. it takes a lot of patience and understanding which most girls lack. My guy has it :)
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Asker+1 ybut you don't get it, it's different for me since I'm a guy, I always have to be the one to initiate
Opinion Owner+1 yNo you don't. if a girl likes you enough she will initiate contact with you. no matter how shy or whatever she is herself. You just have to suck it up. However having aspergers you don't get the whole sucking up and grow a pair thing like you can say to most people.
It's different for guys with aspergers. You will find someone I am positive of that. And I know it is frustrating and hard watching other people have gfs.
Asker+1 yyeah it's not a matter for me being scared, it's a matter of not knowing how, so are you saying a girl will ask a guy out?
Opinion Owner+1 yMost definately. I know plenty that ask a guy out. But like I said its all to do with timing and being at the right place at the right time. Have you tried smiling at a girl you like? cos that would hint to her you are interested without any real emotion or effort from you then if she likes you she may say hi or something and you go from there
Asker+1 yI have asked girls out before, but I only get rejected
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt seems like you just want to complain and complain but you don't want to do anything about it. What do you expect, everyone to tell you that the world is going to change and girls are suddenly going to start asking you out? Maybe all of this complaining and lack of taking any advice is part of Asperger but if you want to really and seriously get a girlfriend you need to seek help from someone who is familiar with Aspergers, instead of just complaining.
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Asker+1 yWell that's because I have been rejected too many times, I hate how you think all I do is complain and whine that I never do something about it, well for you information, I have done something about it, and I keep taking charge in order to do something about it, but I never get the results I want.
Opinion Owner+1 yGood, keep taking charge and stop complaining that girls don't ask you out. No amount of complaining about that will change it. A lot of people get rejected over and over before they meet the person they end up in love with. And guess what, Aspie girls don't have it easier. Just because someone starts talking to you first doesn't mean they will keep talking to you if you have trouble with conversation.
Opinion Owner+1 yNot many people on this site are going to be able to tell you how to have social skills to interest most girls because they would have to understand Asperger's and know what is and is not possible for you to learn. You need to look for advice from websites that do understand your situation and how to work with it.
Asker+1 yWhy do you think Aspie girls don't have it easier? Duh!!!, all girls have to do is wait and choose, waiting is better than being rejected and getting teased or lead on.
Opinion Owner+1 yAgain, with the complaints. It is so much easier to imagine someone else has no problem and dwell on that than move forward dealing with your own issues. I guess you think guys love to date girls without social skills they cannot talk to. Girls get judged on their social skills to. Guys most definitely can approach a girl and then end up walking away because they don't think she is "cool". Worse, they will have sex with her and then dump her.
Opinion Owner+1 yStop whining. I see so many posts on here where people give you good advice and all you do is try to contradict them. What would you rather hear? Do you want people to tell you it is hopeless? Do you want people to tell you to give up? It seems like that is what you want. Maybe it is your negativity that is affecting your ability to meet girls, Stop contradicting everyone who is trying to help you and start saying "yes, maybe that would work".
Asker+1 yYeah well if you were in my situation, you would feel the same way too
Opinion Owner+1 yNo I wouldn't. I know, because I have been in your situation and I listened to people and I took their advice and things are better now. If all you want to be on this site is a total downer that contradicts everyone, well I guess that is your right, but it won't fix anything for you.
Asker+1 yWhatever, you can't change my opinion
Opinion Owner+1 yYou are right, I cannot change your opinion. You should keep your opinion and accept the reality. If you don't want to try anything to help yourself, then all you can do is accept the outcomes you will get. You are not actually expecting anyone on this site to tell you the world is going to change anytime soon.
+1 yfind a woman that has the same condition...maybe it will work
00 ReplyHey I've got aspergers too. Same problem although I'm 16, I don't see anything changing for me soon.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou need to find someone else with Asperger's. I doubt a normal girl will date you, no offense
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Asker+1 yYeah, since a girl will never ask a guy out
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who the f*** are you to speak for all normal girls? I would date someone with A.S. so f*** off
Dont listen to that bitch. No normal guy would date an anonymous narcissist like her anyway :) being naricissist is a mental disease too by the way :D
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yJoin a dating site...
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNever was a fan of dating
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