I'm 24, I also have Asperger's, and I also never had a girlfriend, for similar reasons to you.. I (unfortunatly) don't have advice on how to get girls, but I gotta respond to your remarks on suicide. I hope you're joking about that, but on the off chance you're not... I want to relate to you my own experience. Even though I'm not gonna give up anytime soon, the thought have crossed my mind more than once that maybe I will never have one. and I also thought about what am I going to do if I won't have a girlfriend by the time I'm, say, 30. And yes, one of the things I thought about was to put a stop to my life. Because that's what society tells us, right? that if you're not in a relationship life is meaningless?
But then I thought about everything I like about my life, and realized that if I'll kill myself I will not get to experience them anymore. Not having a girlfriend would suck, but it will never be bad enough to make my life not worth living. Think of your hobbies, think of your friends (do you have friends? you were'nt clear on that). For, example, i, like a lot of aspies, really enjoy learning new things. If you enjoy it like me, think of the vast ocean of information that's out there that you will never get to know if you kill yourself. And, as a lot of previous people answered, it is certainly possible to be in a relationship even with Asperger's. I know of a lot of people who managed it, including some relationships where both couples are aspies and some "mixed" couples. But even if you don't, there is still plenty of things in life worth living for.
Hope I was helpful :).01 Reply
Asker+1 ywhy do I get the feeling I'm gonna be single for a while longer
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+1 yno, but how about get a hooker or escort to get the monkey off your back since Asperger Syndrome will make working your game up very difficult
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yHaving a girlfriend or boyfriend is nice, but it's not the totality of what life has to offer on earth. Many people live fulfilling, interesting, meaningful lives without romantic pursuits. My aunt is like that. But you don't know my aunt, lol, so here's some names you might know, people who stayed single their whole lives:
Jane Austen
Leonardo da Vinci
Sir Isaac Newton
Nikola Tesla
Florence Nightingale
Hans Christian Anderson
Susan B Anthony
Orville and Wilbur Wright
Henry David Thoreau
Antonio Vivaldi
Anne and Emily Brontë
Mother Teresa
And, that's just a handful. There are many more. Can you imagine what they, as individuals, and also the world would have missed out on, if each of these people had ended their life as young adults? They would have missed so much, and the world would be a very different place without all their significant contributions!01 Reply
+1 yAlright I read your comment to 'decentusername' "girls always seem to be attracted to the loud-mouth, cocky, arrogant guy(in a joking way, doing it for humor)"
That's completely false I always seem to like smart people not "loud mouths"
If you want to know a fact falling in love all depends on pheromones and body language so it really doesn't matter too much if your socially awkward
I'm very socially awkward. I've been like that since I was 5 due to my ADHD & epilepsy
Everyone thought I was a weird kid my whole life and I'm not threatening suicide.
You just have to wait for a girl who has an open mind. Trust me they exist13 Reply
Asker+1 yit's so easy for you girls
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That's a bit sexist now, I don't think gender matters on whether it's 'easy' for anyone.
Asker+1 yyeah but you girls don't have to initiate
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yYou sound pretty intelligent, despite the lack of social skills. Study it like you would anything else. Read some Dale Caregie books and study social interaction like you would a computer system or a history test.
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Asker+1 yhow would that help?
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Smart guys with aspergers can learn social skills if they approach it as a subject/skillset.
Asker+1 yeasier said than done
Opinion Owner+1 yEverything is difficult before it is easy. If we all only did easy things, we'd all be laying in bed eating pork rinds all day, masturbating. Seriously, though, good luck.
Asker+1 yyeah well I don't know what it is that I am doing wrong
Opinion Owner+1 yMaybe you could seek out an older person you trust to be a mentor to help you learn?
Asker+1 yi don't know who to seek
Opinion Owner+1 yAre there any Aspie groups in your area or online? Maybe there would be a good mentor. If not, I'm not sure if you have an uncle or cousin who is a good person that you could ask for tips?
Asker+1 yyes I have gone to them before, and no I don't have a cousin for that or uncle
Asker+1 ymost social skills are instinct for most people
Opinion Owner+1 yTo a degree. Some people are more talented than others, just like every other ability. Don't kill yourself ... put some work into it. Some people don't have working legs, or sight or the ability to learn to read. You didn't get social skills. It is tough, but not impossible. People overcome all sorts of obstacles. It's not fair, but wondering why things aren't fair doesn't get you as far as doing stuff to make progress.
Asker+1 yyeah but I don't see myself getting a girlfriend with the condition I have
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+1 yif you want these things and are motivated, learn the damn skills. You can do it. People have a natural level of social awkwardness, but if you study 'social skills' and 'interaction' and critically 'reading body language/facial expressions' as academic skills, you can make your social skills _better_ then most people.
One guy I know with aspergers, recognized he was bad at reading body language, so he took the same microfacial-recognition course the cia uses, passed the exam. He tells me he can pretty much now tell what anyone around him is thinking/feeling most of the time, and nobody he knows can lie to him. So then when he studies social skills, how to talk to women, how to approach, he can constantly adjust and recalibrate because he can SEE how they're reacting.
He has better game then 95% of the guys that I know. Why? He worked at it methodically.215 Reply- +1 y
I answered your question in my comments. Sorry for the long string.
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NP man, I'm always interested in your thoughts.
Asker+1 ythats inspiring, so what your saying is to stay persistent?
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Persistent yes, but be smart about it. If what you're doing isn't working, ask yourself why not? TBH, picking up etc is ALWAYS going to be a numbers game, but you want to be trying to improve your ability to read people and connect with them in an authentic way.
Asker+1 yso should I treat it like the Lottery? try to see it like that?
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You should treat it like blackjack. As you may be aware, if you count cards in blackjack, you can tilt the expected winning percentage such that the odds are _very slightly_ in your favor. Will it make you win every time? No, not at all. Being lucky is better then being right. But any intelligent person would count cards. Right?
So that's how you should approach dating. Nothing guarantees success, and not many things guarantee favor, but play smart and frequently and tilt the odds. - +1 y
that should have said 'guarantee failure'. not flavor. Urgh.
Improve your reading of body language, observe others, learn to escalate, learn to tease and flirt, work out, dress well, and then learn to pick up ... pick up a LOT. Don't jump to thinking you're dating when you're not. If you ask a girl out for Friday, what should you be doing between now and then? Hitting on other girls to get a date for Saturday. Until things are going WELL, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Asker+1 ytease and flirt? are you talking about cocky humor?
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Cocky humour works for some guys. I would say it would be challenging for you. The key is to be cocky but in a playful way. To do that, you need to calibrate to the girl's response. Again, learning to read people's response will help in any social interaction, if you can improve that, instead of trying to copy other people's lines or whatever, you can work your own way and adjust on the fly.
Asker+1 yyeah I suck at being an a**hole, jerk, in a joking way, so I'm not sure if that would be worth it
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I don't think you HAVE to be cocky/funny.
If you're just generally cheerful, outgoing, having a good time, enjoy life, and inviting people to enjoy life with you, that can be pretty powerful.
Asker+1 yyeah I was reading something about David DeAngelo, saying that use Cocky Humor
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"cocky/funny' is david d'angelo's term. If it doesn't work for you, don't use it.
Asker+1 yjust brought it up because after all, David DeAngelo was explaining it in a way that Women find that very attractive
Asker+1 ylook at my update, that former user on this site, Asailum said that, seriously I'm glad that piece of sh*t is gone
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+1 ythe first thing you need to understand is, do you want these things (sex, etc) because you really want them? or is it because you're pressured into having them?
im 31 and also an aspie. I'm a virgin and have very little relationship experience. and its because, due to the way it affects me (and this is common among us) I am incapable of any kind of intimacy. this is the way I'll be for life. but you know what? I accept it, and so do the people who actually care about me. this is the way I enjoy being.115 Reply
Asker+1 yincapable of intimacy? how? physically or mentally?
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i feel the emotions but I don't have the instinct or the drive, and I have no way of translating the emotions into physical acts.
Asker+1 yand you choose to be a virgin?
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i don't choose to be a virgin. I choose to accept that I will be.
Asker+1 yno offense but if I were you I would have gone to a hooker, escort ages ago, yes I know in most people's eyes that is seen, viewed as desperate, pathetic, but so what, sex is sex, penetration is penetration
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You apparently have no idea what I just said. I can't.
Asker+1 yi apologize
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It's okay. This is part of who I am. I don't have the ability to do things like kiss or anything sexual and I'm okay with that.
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He's saying (I think) that the reason he hasn't had sex is that he is not emotionally comfortable with the physical act. Is that about right Weaponz?
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No, it means I lack the ability to link the emotions to a physical act. I can feel horny, but there's no instinct or anything linking the feeling of being horny to the act of having sex, or even a desire to do so. There's no emotion whatsoever associated with those physical acts. Even kissing just feels cold, emotionless.
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Let me put it to you this way:
There's a link between your emotions and your physical self that allows you to express your emotions through physical means. It's how you know to smile when you feel happy, or to laugh when you find something funny. It's how you project body language and why your pitch changes in your voice as a response to your emotions and thoughts. And it's why you associate the act of sex or kissing with feeling horny or in love. Now imagine not having that link. - +1 y
Imagine watching the funniest movie you've ever seen and never once laughing or cracking a smile. The emotion is there but because you don't have the link, it's totally alien and unnatural to you to express the feeling of finding something funny through laughing. Now carry that same thing to sex. Imagine feeling horny but having no instinct or desire telling you that you're supposed to do something about it, to "express" it physically.
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imagine being head over heels in love with a woman and yet trying to kiss her and feeling absolutely nothing, only the wet awkwardness of your tongues touching backed by no emotion associated whatsoever. Then she pauses and asks you why you're not doing anything with your hands like feeling her up. You respond with "I didn't know I was supposed to." Because you didn't. As much as you love her and "want" her as a person and as a companion, you have no desire to even so much as touch her.
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All of this because there's no association whatsoever between your emotions and what goes on with your body. Get it now?
Asker+1 yi get it now
There is hope .
my boyfriend is not diagnose but most people who know him would easily;y believe he has a bit of aspergers. His social "awkwardness" is a big part of why I love him. I love that he says what people just think .
He describes that he learns as he gets older and that it was a lot harder when he was younger. Just view it as a learning process, it may take time but it'll get better.20 ReplyI'm not sure how old this question is or the content of the answers since you say you are 23 and your age is now 25-29. Your question and details show a person who is very self-defeating. If you really want to feel worthless and wallow in your own self-pity, noone is going to stop you from it and plenty of people are more than happy to encourage you to be a jerk. But to get what you want, you have to work for it.
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Asker+1 yAre you saying you are an Aspie and worked for it successfully?
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What I am saying is that I have worked too damn hard in my own life. Too many Aspies seem to have self-defeating patterns of thoughts and behaviours seemingly because of poor treatment from others and they might actually believe all the negative things they hear. Instead of moving forward, people hold in the anger and choose to be victims. I can tell you there is too much energy wasted in that.
Do I have the high paying job? No I don't, but I have the money to pay my bills and I have the money to help support myself and what I want to do. I also have the money to take the GF out every here and there. Life is more enjoyable when I can be present to enjoy it as well instead of behaving like a victim.
Asker+1 yi see
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+1 yFor the social skills bit:
You could date an aspie girl.
You could date an introvert girl.
For the conversation skills bit:
Effort & work. Most people want to communicate verbally in a relationship.
Also what do you want a girlfriend for:
validation? work on those self esteem//worth issues
sex? prostitutes, p*rn, and sex dolls
sex with a girl who wants you? pay the prostitute to put on whatever you act you want
hangout
Most likely you just want a girlfriend to have sex and the ego boost of having sex with someone who wants to have sex with you. Along with having someone to hang out with and for that bit just get some female friends. Most guys are thinking of serious relationships that will soon lead to marriage but rather just a pretty girl whose nice to them to have sex with.110 Reply
Asker+1 yit's mostly guys that are aspies, not girls
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How does that change anything?
Aspie girls still exist & you can still date them.
Also tons of high-functioning aspie girls aren't diagnosed.
Asker+1 yit changes everything because they are very difficult to find
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Join a hobby group via meetup.com for people who share similar hobbies. Join your local chapter of ABOARD (national autism therapy/social organization). There are plenty of ways to meet people if you want to, and you can use the internet to filter out people who don't have common interests. I've met numerous friends through my motorcycle group ride meetup group.
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@WeaponZero
Exactly there are pretty much groups for everything and niche/specialized dating sites.
@QA
Hard to find?
Plenty of Parents of Aspies groups, Aspie Single Events, Aspie dating sites, and Aspie meetups.
Asker+1 yi've attended Aspie meet-ups before
Asker+1 ywhy is it okay for girls to seek validation but not okay for guys?
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Show me where I stated or implied it's okay for girls to seek validation.
Asker+1 yyou didn't, it's just guys are expected to be more independent
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Whatevers on asking me a question involving something I never stated/implied..o.O
Especially when you already have one of the answers for it...o.O
My answer to it would be double standards and gender expectations.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yyou have to know that killing yourself isn't just your own business, it also involve people that love you, and it would be extremely painful for them. think about your mom carried you in her womb for 9 months and you just ended your life simply because of something as trivial as having a girlfriend? i am almost 30 and i only had one girlfriend in my entire life, whom i have broken up with simply because she is too dependent and clingy that caused me a lot of stress, so having a girlfriend doesn't guarantee you happiness.
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+1 yA good friend of mine is full-blown autistic. Almond eyes and all. He pulls girls all the time.
He's not the sharpest, or the most sociable, but he's earnest and he's confident. Your Autism determines as much about you as you let it.11 Reply
Asker+1 yare you sure?
+1 yno
you should not commit suicide.
not all girls want the 'sociable, conversationalist.'27 Reply
Asker+1 yare you sure about that? girls always seem to be attracted to the loud-mouth, cocky, arrogant guy(in a joking way, doing it for humor)
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no you shouldn't just commit suicide
Asker+1 ywhy? I feel I am missing out on my best years for dating and relationships
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because there's more to life than that
oh and I go for the opposite of the 'loud-mouth, cocky, arrogant' guy
and I know plenty of other girls like that
so I'm sure you'll find someone
it's probably just a matter of where you live and what places you go, I think.
Asker+1 yyeah but girls always want the outgoing guy, they hate introverted guys
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no, they don't
it could just be your age group or the girls that you're around who do
and most girls go through that phase of 'douche bag'
but no one wants a relationship with a douche bag, so they eventually learn
some quicker than others
you just have to be patient x - +1 y
I felt the same way as question asker I started crying when I read the symptoms of autism. no wander my life has been so miserable. I was never diagnosed until recently. there is hardly any worse curse than beign an autistic male, and never have received any therapy or help. no wander my interactions have been so awkawrd
no you should not kill youself, a wise man once said to me, kid one thing you got to learn, everybody in this world is f***ing crazy, you just got to make your crazy work for you.
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Asker+1 ywell learning is not natural to me the way it is for others
+1 yNo! Dont commit suicide. Dont give up. You will find somebody. I know its hard, but you need to keep fighting. (Not literally). You could maybe find a girl who have aspergers too?
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yNever commit suicide. There are online dating sites with people who have the same problem. Try it.
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Asker+1 yi've tried online dating and I never get responses
try antidepressants or alcohol I'm 45 and still here with no girlfriend or wife
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+1 yi wonder too because I have it
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Do you want it? Are you capable of intimacy?
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want what? sex? of course I do, I'm a guy
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See my answer. I'm an aspie too.
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okay, yes I really want them
Asker+1 yyes I have a desire for sex, I'm a guy after all
hang in there bud
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