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Sounds like a book you've read. Well next don't be so rebellious. Come home at a proper time.
Ok? This was my experience, not a book. I can come home whenever the hell I please. And like I said in the first few sentences, 99% of the time I get home before midnight anyways. Instead of hiding from men at home, I think men should learn some fucking manners.
Doesn't change anything and it won't. You were the one scared. Stop reading so many scary stories and come home at a decent time!
1. I don’t read scary stories. 2. My fear was completely justified. 3. Like I said, instead of me hiding at home, guys should learn not to approach strangers in the middle of the night.
If they should learn then teach them. If not deal with the consequences of your own actions.
I’m not their mom, it’s not my responsibility to teach men how to behave like decent human beings.
Exactly. I'm not your father and I shouldn't have to tell you to be in at a reasonable time. Not walking the streets late at night like a prostitute.
Oh eff off.
Just like thought. You just don't give a damn.
You're GROUNDED!
guaranteed he uses this site
Haha I wish. Maybe if he read this he would realize what a creep he was being. Or maybe he'd get even more mad at me for not appreciating what a gentleman he was.
he's deff a blue anon on here
Be tough with him and show who's boss
Worth organising a lift next time.
Women need to realize they aren't men. A woman walking alone in the dark is asking for trouble.
What the hell. A woman walking by herself is literally not asking for ANYTHING. Stop excusing creepy behavior.
Men need to realize that they should stay in their fucking lane and not bother women.
Anyone who takes advantage of another and blame them is awful...
One thing is was you desire and another is reality. You pull of that stunt one more time and chances are you're going to get raped and possibly murdered.
You're lucky that wasn't in the USA because there would have been a 80% chance you would have be kidnapped, raped and murder then dumbed in the woods somewhere.
*off
*What you desire
The reality was NOT that I was asking for trouble. I wanted to go home. I didn't want to spend money on a cab. i figured it was unnecessary since I lived so close by.
The reality IS that men don't have any fucking boundaries and they think they can do whatever they want with women. That's sexism. That's rape culture. And you basically claiming I was asking for it, even though I LITERALLY just wanted to go the fuck home, proves it.
^ Right on.
Don't mind Hispanic-Cool-Guy he's a racist, he talks shit about Muslims and Jews so it doesn't surprise me he talks shit about women to, not sure why he has a "Guru" status on GAG.
@thatguyfromtoronto Guru only means that he's posted a lot, not that he's necessarily posted anything good or helpful.
@ThatGuyfromtoronto: Would you like your daughter walking the streets at 3AM alone when all the creeps are roaming around to possibly find a vulnerable woman to take advantage of? Are you really that dumb or just playing a white knight for the ladies?
WTF! If a woman is walking home alone, not doing anything wrong, just on her way home, a man CANNOT justify them walking up and talking to her and making her feel uncomfortable by saying she was asking for trouble. Get over yourself!
1 she is 22 an adult and 2 if a guy walked the street no one would approach him unless they plan to hurt him him 3 why the hell shouldn't women free to feel safe? Because of ass holes who harm people many are scared to simply walk areas. F i can't even walk alone to the bridge next to my isolated property just incase 1 of the odd 3 campers there have bad intentions, we don't ask for thing to go wrong we just want to live without fear
@RedMatch That just shows that nobody is safe.. You gotta be realistic and stop trynna fight a losing battle.. The world can be a dangerous place.. I don't wanna walk around my neighborhood and watch out for being robbed, and shot but guess what.. ATM that's just how it is.. Can't cry about it..
You handled it well.
Ever considered buying a gun?
Civilians are not allowed to have concealed weapons where I’m from. And getting a permit is quite hard too, I believe, especially if you’re not going to use the gun for hunting/as a hobby. You even need a permit for pepper spray here. Not every country is like ’murica.
That sucks, I guess the only way to protect yourself then is by hand. Which of course leaves a massive advantage to a rapist
Which contry?
yeh... probably shouldn't walk home alone again.. . even if it was earlier in the day.
I’m not going to stay home during the day because of men.
I said not alone... Or take an Uber or Taxi. Or drive... Or get a bike... Or just get a friend to go with you. Simple as that.
I’d prefer it if men stopped being creeps.
Yeah well that's never gonna happen. Just like women complaining/nagging men is never gonna end either.
People said that when women wanted the right to vote, study and choose their own career. Look at where we are now.
Dude, women should be able to walk anywhere they need to. There's nothing wrong with expecting better behavior from guys and telling everyone who will listen that creepy behavior is not okay.
Also, it kinda goes without saying but creepy guys (who you are afraid will RAPE you) are not the same as "nagging" women.
@snowangle thank you, exactly!
And after all that bullshit you're saying, rapists are still gonna rape. Simple as that.
I'm not interested in normalizing predatory behavior. Any guy who does crap like this - he needs to feel terrible and ashamed about it. Not that it's "normal" and "she was asking for it" and "what did she expect."
Maybe when you're older, you'll learn to seek to improve bad things instead of just accepting them.
@snowangle How is this improving it? explain.
By spreading awareness about how often this shit happens (and worse), we’re creating a discussion on a societal level, such as metoo. The more it’s talked about, the less victims feel like it’s something they need to hide or keep on the down low. The more it’s talked about, it’s more likely to spark a societal outrage. Right now, assholes and creeps get validation from people like you. People like you who try to put even more responsibility on the victim, who blame the victim, who shame the victim. They get confident from it. They realize that as long as people like you are essentially defending them, they’ll keep doing it. Because they know they can get away with it.
If they knew that they couldn’t get away with it, and nobody was putting so much focus on what the victim was doing/not doing, they would be terrified of the consequences. But right now the ”consequences” are people telling me that I was a slut for walking home and that I was asking for it.
You're acting like this is something that's gonna change overnight... No it's not... And no rapist is gonna read your comment and go "oh yeah well I guess I've seen the light" No...
It's not just rape victims either. I try to not wear cool sneakers or flashy headphones out in public because I don't wanna get jumped. Simple as that.
But everyone always talks about how bad rape is...
First of all, I didn't see anywhere that suggested we expect this to change overnight.
Second, are you actually doubting the trauma of rape?
In any case, I for one am going to continue letting creepy dudes know that their behavior is not normal and not okay. Sure beats giving them excuses and shifting the blame onto the victims. "Simple as that."
@snowangle I posted my fucking opinion... And you're mad that I posted MY opinion. Just because you're a massive feminist liberal doesn't mean we all are. I personally do not give a single fuck anymore about this.
I'm not mad. You gave your opinion and we gave ours. I see that you won't change your mind on this now, but maybe when you're older you will be able to debate with a level head and open your mind to other viewpoints.
@snowangle I'm old enough to know that no "creepy guy" is gonna stop being creepy because you told him to.
He might stop being creepy if people like you stopped making excuses and started reinforcing consequences.
There are consequences to RAPE... Not to being creepy... Deal with it.
So you think all types of behavior is ok as long as it isn't rape? Wow you're a special case.
Wow. This guy.
No but are there any laws against being creepy? Nope. You're 7 years older than me and you're still a complete retard. I bet you both went to really expensive colleges and didn't learn shit.
Sexual harassment (following, unwanted advances or contact) and sexual assault (unwanted touching that covers anything from grabbing a butt to just short of rape). Neither are rape, and both have consequences to them. I got a male coworker of mine fired earlier this year for what you would call "being creepy."
Stay in school, buddy.
@snowangle So if a guy walks and talks to you in a public area, that's sexual harassment? Don't think so.
If he doesn't leave me alone after it's made clear I'm not interested, then yes that's harassment.
Why am I getting the sense that you're just looking to argue rather than trying to understand?
@snowangle I am trying to understand, but I can't wrap my head around the fact that you think that's harassment lol...
It's a public area.
He's not touching you.
Lol.
Sigh...
Taken from Dictionary. com: Harassment. Noun. The act or an instance of harassing, or disturbing, pestering, or troubling repeatedly; persecution.
Nowhere does it say that physical contact is required, or that being in a public space is at all relevant. See, most people know this already, but I'm having to literally read you a dictionary because you're so dense.
@snowangle Since when is a dictionary the code of law LOL. bruh.
"Bruh" she was just explaining what harassment means since you obviously don't understand what it is. Harassment is very much illegal, even if you'd just describe it as "walking and talking".
That's not the law of harassment though. Maybe that's the definition but nothing will happen to someone who does that.
What a creep.
Creepy
Yup.
Hold your keys in between your fingers.
I already do that.
It's not okay.
Stab him
sorry to hear that
Was this in Finland?
Yes.
Was he an immigrant or local? Men from some regions think of western girls as all being easy and wanting sex.
Note: If this IS true in Finland let me know and I'll be on the next plane.
He sounded like an American, so I'm assuming he was visiting or on exchange.
Maybe he was a horny drunk tourist trying to score before his flight home.
He wasn't drunk or high. He didn't smell and was perfectly conscious. I don't think a normal person would try to just "score" with a lonely girl walking home at 3 am. He was a creep who put me in an unsafe and highly uncomfortable situation completely knowingly.
Spooky.