Why is the sexual objectification of women always men's fault?

[PrinceOfAljazeera]

how come whenever there's discussion about the sexual objectification of women, men are always to blame? if women are dressing really conservatively it's men's fault because they're only covering up their skin to protect them from the creepy male gaze, if women dresses provocatively and shows off a lot of skin men are also at fault because she only doing that because she's forced to conform about male standards of beauty and to try and appeal to that same male gaze , so whatever she does no matter how she dresses it's men's fault. why is it always men's fault?

[DestinyElizabeth04]

Men aren't to blame. Period. Womens competition and society's definition of womens beauty is to blame. Every single modern magazine is turning women into an object by having women half naked or full on naked for a front page and women gaze at that daily and crave to look like these people and have that "sex appeal" that the media broadcasts. These same women get pissed off when men look at them with desire and lust when they promote themselves the same way these women in magazines do. Does that make rape okay? Absolutely fucking not. But men also get raped every single day and no one is making a stand against that!! I believe you should be able to dress how you want but I am sorry, if you dress in such a way that your shorts are eating your ass and you have nothing covered, you are going to become a object because that is the image you have created for yourself. Plain and simple. I have been cat called and an "object" in mens eyes. But guess what? During that time in my life, I was also dressing like a skank and flaunted my sex appeal because I secretly loved getting that attention. Have I been raped? Yes. Have I been molested? Yes. Have I been groped by men who I did not know? Also yes. It wasn't until I started dressing respectfully and standing up for myself and my dignity that men started treating me like I was a lady and not a sex toy.

[Didi1337]

I loved this, always wanted to say it just never knew how. Its amazing to read, but men ofcourse also do some bad things for both women and men, like porn like everybody knows.

But i dont believe its the gender that makes you into a bad or good person for your gender. Its your own personality and how uve evolved since you were born. But aslong as you are not permanently sick for some reason, you can change yourself. I dislike fashion, and anything thats puts us into these groups while we are teenagers, to try and be the "best", both in looks and diet and fashion and makeup etc etc.

If i controlled the goverment, something i will never do. I would make fashion to "be yourself, be creative, be what you want to be". Not "be this unhealthy skinny girl, photoshopped so nothing "flawed" shows etc.

I do believe tho, its way worse for women than men, but thats just from my perspective and experience.

[spuitkaas]

I don't fully agree with you. I feel like even in shorts that eat your ass you don't have to be objectified, since what is 'appropriate' is very subjective. As a curvy girl with a cup triple D and a small waist, it's hard to wear something that's appropriate for most people, while girls who have no curves can wear the something inappropriately and still not look inappropriate. I think we should accept that women are sexual creatures and don't have to constantly hide that and blame inappropriate behaviour of men on the way we look like. If I want to wear a low-cut tanktop because it looks good and is comfortable, then I should be able to do that without blaming that as a reason for inappropriate behaviour of men.
I also can't relate to your story of you only getting harassed while dressing provocatively, since for me it really doesn't matter if I wear a hoodie or a short. I have been objectified for being a female only. I believe it's very wrong to say the reason for harassment is your clothing choice, since many women get raped, harassed whatsoever in their pyjama's or hoodies, which is not perceived as provocative.

[DestinyElizabeth04]

@spuitkaas I didn't mean to give the impression that dressing provocatively was the only reason why women are objectified. I know that is not the case. I am a curvy woman myself and I understand completely that sometimes, even while dressing conservatively, women get harassed. Absolutely. I have been there myself. But men, as a whole, are not to blame for that. There are "bad eggs", so to speak, in both genders. You have women who make false rape claims and you have men who take full advantage on a woman simply because she has a vagina. It happens all the time. There are women out there, such as you and I, who dont seek the attention and have gotten it anyways. BUT there is also a growing number of women who dress to impress men and then get pissed off that those men that they strived to impress are actually giving them attention OR they didn't want to attract that specific male, but a man who better fit their needs/desires; which then leads to ignorance and hatred toward men, when in all actuality it is not their fault. It is a known fact that men crave sex more than women. It is also known that women, as a whole, are a very sexual being. Therefore, when you are deliberately going out of your way to promote sex appeal and grasp onto males gaze, in my opinion, you are an object because you have made yourself into one. You know what I am saying? Dont get me wrong, there are many men out there who simply do not care. They have zero morals or respect for women. But should be blame that on an entire gender? Absolutely not. I have met far many better men out there than I have women. In fact, just recently, I went out with some girlfriends and one of them specifically told us she was looking to get laid. She went out dressed as a $2 hooker and flaunted her sex appeal throughout the entire bar; just to get pissed that she attracted someone who wasn't appealing to her, whereas the men she wanted were far from interested. She has zero respect for herself. That id most women tod

[spuitkaas]

I definitely don't think it's 'only men' s fault'. A huge part in objectification comes from the competition between women. Whenever a woman feels threatened, she will comment on how provocatively she dresses. Women also objectify themselves. However, this competition ultimately comes down to men. Are men really to blame for this? Maybe a little bit, but women as well. It's because our society is built on determining the value of a woman mostly on how she looks. I would say it a viscous circle that keeps going if nobody is changing. Men go for attractive females, females value their physical appearance as a way to attract men too much and therefore objectify herself and men will act accordingly. It's time to value women on other qualities than appearance.

[Shellyworld]

Good explanation.

[spuitkaas]

I also want to add that media plays a big role too. In the media women only get valued by their appearance as well. From a young age we learn about beautiful princesses and ugly witches, meanwhile the prince mostly gets praised for being strong and brave. We learn to play with dolls and makeover kits that learn us to care about our appearance. This gets only accentuated by family members complimenting us on being a pretty girl, while the boys are being called tough, brave, intelligent or strong.
Ofcourse guys pick this up as well in the media by watching series with cool men being womanizers like the jocks in these highschool series or movies like James Bond with the bond girls. I feel like objectification is mostly a problem caused by society as a whole.

[motownplayer2000]

Yeah I'm with you... women say they want men to say they they are pretty Or gorgeous... yet, when men do that, if it's "felt" to be objectifying then they get offended. I've heard women say that, or if it's a creepy guy that they aren't attracted too, it's creepy and objectifying. It's kind of funny. If you don't want to get objectified by your looks, don't complain about men not saying your beautiful or pretty even in a relationship... and let's be real, women objectify men as well. Men just don't make a big deal!

And on here, I've seen women say they women can pray on gullible men. So why are women out here "selling" there sex appeal for free shit? Dress provocatively at the club in promise to be sexual for a few drinks, or some food.. or get into the VIP or this or that.. women manipulate.. now, I don't have a problem with it, if you can play the system to get what you want, go for it.. I just don't want to hear any woman that has done that, or does that regularly say, men are pigs and they objectify women for no reason... cause that just makes it worse for all women.

[Ultimate_Gohan]

Women like to play the victim

[btbc92]

It's societies fault. We have tossed away God's standards for Greek and Roman standards of worshipping the human body and consciousness. Everything we do today is Greek thought. It's bad enough men have a LOT of temptations, but they choose to watch porn, masturbate and have sex outside of marriage. The same applies to women who do the same. Nobody should be lusting after ANYBODY for any reason. But people do it because society says it's OKAY. It's Not okay. This is why women feel disempowered, and why men are constantly losing their reputation.

I CHOOSE not to dress provocatively because that is not what a LADY is supposed to do. I do not want to displease my God or cause problems for others too. I dress conservatively for the most part because I enjoy it, but its modified to fit my frame to a degree and my comfort level. However, I get looked at regardless because 'I'm just another pretty face'. People sadly judge you based on your sex appeal and appearance. We no longer judge from the heart, personality, and character besides upbringing except the few and the so-called religious.

Yes, women are forced to conform. Far more because feminism opened the door for it. But that same toxicity happens even when women wore conservative clothing, just done in and out of the home. Men control and rule the world. In General. But wicked and nasty people do wicked and nasty things no matter if its a male or a female. I have been harassed and targeted no matter what I do or wear. I don't necessarily blame men for this as not all men asked to do what they do. But a good amount feels entitled to do these things like some women do to men. I blame ungodly people with ungodly standards who like wickedness and sin than just one gender. Men suffer from being objectified too.

[GuidoThePizzaMaker]

You are amazing ❤

[Anonymous]

Every woman has her reasons for dressing the way that they do. Some dress conservatively because they want to avoid the male gaze. Some dress provocatively to attract the male gaze. Some dress conservatively because they would like to dress modestly and don’t want to share their body with the world. Some dress more revealingly because they’re proud of their bodies and want to show them off. Some dress conservatively because their job requires them to conform to certain dress codes. Some women wear exposing clothing just because it’s hot out and they want to catch a breeze. There are all sorts of reasons why women dress the way they do. Men aren’t necessarily to blame for that. Ultimately, women in the U. S can wear whatever they want and so they are the only ones are to “blame” for what they wear. However, sexual objectification has nothing to do with what a woman wears. Sexual objectification is the dehumanizing of a person until you see them as nothing more than a sex object. Women can be objectified regardless of what they wear. Sexual objectification is a mindset that some people have that makes them look at women as nothing more than a sex object. The only person to blame for sexual objectification is the person who is objectifying someone.

[sheepdip]

Well said

[Opinion Owner]

@sheepdip thank you.

[Unit1]

[Xlink]

Men dont put woman in their place that's why. You let them spout their nonsense.

Also sometime it is man's fault look at Joss Whedon justice legaue movie pure butt shots and falling on womans. Boobs. He did the exact same thing in age of Ultron.

But woman are the ones on Instagram showing their ass or. being a twitch thot

[Anonymous]

You want to see a woman get really mad and frustrated? Don't objectify her when she's trying her best to flirt with you. Don't give her attention when she's obviously trying to get it. If she's talking sexy to you, bring up something intellectual.

Women love to be objectified, they just want to pick and choose WHO objectifies them.

[TripleAce]

Ya dont fall into that bullshit. Its mainly women that are the ones sending out blame
Cause they want their cake and to eat it too

They dress half naked most of the times. We’re looking either way. So deal with it lol or bring it up with the almighty god
😛

[Porcelaine]

Because men are the ones objectifying them lol. I get objectified in a winter coat, in a sundress, in a bikini, and covered from head to toe in baggy clothes. that's just what men do. I wear clothes that feel comfortable and suit my body, sometimes I dress up and want to look nice for myself and others, but if a man objectifies me it's still his choice.

[LeeLadDaBadLad]

Wasn't that long ago where wolf whistling has been banned due to it being an act of sexual harrasment a lot of women use to like the attention from men, the compliments and the easy targets as for now a lot of women have had bad experiences with men and are just not happy or comfortable with interaction from men weather it is a compliment or a kind gesture to appreciate her attraction and beauty

[MissDawn7961]

it is not always men's faults but some men are so gulable that they make themselves an easy target for certain women to get into men's pants , get pregnant and then the man has to pay child support or the man ends up paying for her to shut up about what he has or does not have between his legs ! Thanks

[GD360]

. WM.

[MoscowMitch]

And we are willing victims. Even though we always bitch about it later.

[RolandCuthbert]

Uhm, the problem with your post is that you don't seem to recognize women are individuals. If a woman is dressing provocatively, yeah, she is probably wanting attention.

But women who dress conservatively are sexually objectified also.

So. . ?

[ImagineSketchy]

Because in reality, we're primarily the ones that want to have sex with women and women don't objectify one another sexually, generally. Lastly, "victims" never think they may be the cause and leave it to others to take blame.
Society is a fault, and hiding the sexuality of the world only increases the chances of this happening.

[Anonymous]

Because of the men that rape women then use the excuse that ‘they were asking for it’. I mean I got groped last year in a busy super market whilst struggling to push my mom in a wheelchair. I confronted him about it and he said it was my fault for wearing shorts. Not long ago an old man kept staring at my breasts whilst I was shopping, continued to follow me around the shop and then whilst I was paying he sat in the chair in front of the checkout and continued to stare, as I walked past him he shouted out very loudly ‘nice tits’. I’ve been sexualised and objectified more times than I can count by men. Even as a 14 year old wearing a skirt two men shouted out perverted things as they drove past me. Men are the ones to blame here, not all men but they’re a very big part of the problem.

[PrinceOfAljazeera]

i was raped 7 months ago by 2 women, the reason they raped me because i was too handsome according to them , and everytime im in the public streets every female stare at me when i dont want their attention at all

[Opinion Owner]

And I’m sorry that happened. But that doesn’t mean that women can’t be angry about the things men do to us either, that doesn’t mean that we can’t talk about it just because it happens to men. We are talking about our own experiences and sharing our feelings about it because in our situations, men are the ones we have to blame, because men are the ones that did it to us.

[R_Cakes91]

It’s because of men. It’s because of this smaller group of “piece of shit men” who make the other men look bad.

It’s because of the men who don’t care about embarrassing or ruining a woman’s life just so he can feel good about himself.

Again, most men don’t do this. It’s the few who make us scared to walk around at night that do.

[Opinion Owner]

Exactly.

[Texaskid1]

I hate to say this but...

I blame men for this one. Why? Because it is natural for men to want to protect women and so women are used to being coddled and protected by men. Many women cannot handle their own shit and when the going gets rough they don't take responsibly since they don't know how. So they blame men for everything.

[pizzalovershouse]

cuz usely guys say things they know are not polite if you kerp it polite watch what you know is wrong to say usely you don't have problems like how o you like my new dress you wouldn't say you hate it if she likes it you just let them know it's got to be about what they like

[JamesBoradil03]

because feminists want something to complain about, that why when a girl coplains you say, "that sucks" and dont try to fix it.

[shimmeryns]

Blame the capitalist system of manipulating men's sexual desire and exploiting women's sexual appeal. Sex sells they say.

[GamerGirlPeeDrinker]

No blame the commies who blame everything on capitalism

[shimmeryns]

@GamerGirlPeeDrinker or blame the pee drinker

[MoscowMitch]

The capitalist system wouldn't do that stuff if it didn't work.

[shimmeryns]

@MoscowMitch it does work but the asker question, is it the men's fault?

[MoscowMitch]

I answered that 3 hours ago so I'm way ahead of ya ;)

[Daniel3035]

LOOOOOL good point I just realised girls voluntarily agree to be sexually objectified not even that they ask for it. No mans ever forced a girl to do it.

[Daniel3035]

I will add however back in the 70s to 90s apparently a lot of women reported groping/ forced sex for a role in a movie by their directors while that isn't sexual objectification it is similar.

[Bananaman177]

[Andremoso]

Man up! It's never men's fault no matter what. Men rule and will always rule. Women are biologically flawed the second they are born that's why they need men's guidance. Men should never fall for women's insecurity, approval or never ending issues. Good luck and phuck'em all. Men need women only for sex (oil change) and baby making. Everything else they are useless.

[Sweatyotterr]

Dude there are a lot of desperate pathetic men out there but yeah I agree women shouldn't dress like sluts but men should also ignore them but most guy don’t Im men stopped giving them attention the world would be a merry place

[katkittie55]

And we'll never say it but sometimes we like being objectified.

[Anonymous]

It's really horrible. If I show a man my pussy, all he wants to do is have sex. Men are so rude.

[Wharvey98]

You made me laugh out loud in a crowded room, well done. 👍

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks 😉

[Opinion Owner]

I'll be here all week. Make sure to tip your waitresses!

[bamesjond0069]

Probably because i stare at and jerk my cock at every woman i see that isn't completely ugly. I do this at work, school, walking down the street, at the mall, everywhere the ladies are, i objectify them.

[bamesjond0069]

One woman with no sense of humor. Smh. Was to be expected.

[Mr-Neo-Wizard]

Men are sexually driven by sight and there isn't anything that can change that. It's hard coded in men's DNA. So men are easy scapegoats when a woman feels pressured, etc. In truth men are the used people in this debate.

[SomeGuyCalledTom]

because feminazis blame men for literally everything. Real women own their decisions of how to dress etc.

[BCA6010]

Everyone likes to play the victim.

Women are their own worst enemies.

[Jeremyisboii]

It's girls fault bc they like buying slutty shit and trust me I'm not complaing but when guys had say in everything girls wore dresses and shit and nothing g else

[A-man-22]

There is definitely a balance of blame between men and women.

You can act/dress how you want, yet you aren't immune to consequences because of what you do.

[FunkyMonkee]

Because women ONLY dress in really slinky clothes because they're more comfortable in them and it's NOT their fault if men are turned on by them!!

[Anonymous]

No one went and asked a woman "why are you covering up conservatively?" & she replies with "men." No one😂

[incelposting]

Because w*men are perfect angelic beings who can never be at fault for anything

[Vallius86]

It is confusing why women bait that kind of negative attention.

[MarshmallowFellow]

It's just perception. In actuality there is no innocent party.

[CoffeeWC]

Because of women who blame their fashion choices on men

[Nadim171]

Men are also sexualized. If one gender weren't all of you reading this comment wouldn't have existed.

[MoscowMitch]

I don't mind being blamed as long as it keeps happening.

[mesutkahn]

That's society for you, blame the man for everything even if he's innocent

[BoydWilks]

Cos we made the rules to begin with, and now we're all equals, so women are allowed to blame us lol

[Dav1ss]

Because who else's fault could it be?

[PrinceOfAljazeera]

women vs women.

[Dav1ss]

Rly? Tbh I've been slut shamed by women but never men

[GraveDoll]

*shrug*