Guys, why should a beautiful/young/fit woman choose you over tall/handsome/fit men if you dont even want old/ fat women?

[hi_it_is_me123]

I keep seeing questions that shame on women by saying that they "hit the wall" or by calling them leftovers aka using shaming tactics against women which they copied from the feminazis. These pathetic loosers ain't even original.
I was inactive almost for one month and came back and got spammed by incel questions. So where do these boys-not men-get this entitlement? So young beautiful women should choose you while you are trashtalking women for being over their 30s or for being ugly, fat etc? Who do you think you are? Then dont whine when women do this same shit against you and call you a manlet, looser, not manly enough just because you are short, broke, fat!

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+1 y

Omg wtf is wrong with GaG. I have never ever seen soo many incel questions in my life. Someone has to put them in their place. This week there was almost 5 incel question a day. This is not normal. I even saw a religious, conservative and traditional woman who complained about this. Congratulations incels, you even made traditional women have emphaty for feminazis

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+1 y

I think that I was too offensive. I should ask it in a nicer way. I am sorry if this question/previous update is sexist/offensive. I was emotional when making this question. So i am sorry. Love you all

[MrOracle]

What is important is that you are able to be honest with yourself about your SMV (social market value), and accept that you are very unlikely to get someone above your own level.

This is just as true for men as it is with women, the main difference is that the majority of men understand their value, and that their value is based on how WOMEN judge them, and not how they judge themselves. A whole lot of women, especially in their 30s, have a hugely inflated idea of their SMV, and they think that their SMV is judged based on their own values, when SMV is ALWAYS based on the values of the opposite sex (assuming straight people).

Women have insanely high SMV in their 20s (their early 20s especially), because that's when they are at the idea place in their fertility window, which is why men place so much value on youth. The greatest gift a woman has to give a man is to bear his children.

But this also means that her SMV drops off SIGNIFICANTLY as she enters her 30s. At 30, 90% of her eggs are gone (on average), and medically, pregnancy at 35 or older is considered a "geriatric pregnancy" - and for very real medical reasons.

Every woman in her 30s lived an entire decade in her 20s where her SMV was, by far, the highest it will ever be, and had a decade to find the best man that high SMV could attract - but most women today sail right through their 20s "having fun" and squander that value, and Feminism teaches them that their education and their careers will make them more valuable. Perhaps that is true of employers, but it's absolutely NOT true of life partners. In fact, many men see those things as a negative, because it means that relationships were not a priority to you when they were most important, so why should he believe that they are important to you now?

Also, the overwhelming norm is that women, even when they earn more, don't spend money on men. Her money is her money and his money is "our money." Given this norm, women should not be at all surprised that men, at best, don't care about your education or career, and for the vast majority of men, those things do not increase your SMV - and to some men, it reduces it.

Also, women need to figure out that sexual attention is very different from relationship attention. A 33 year old woman can still get plenty of sexual attention, but that doesn't mean that those men take her seriously as a relationship partner, much less a potential wife.

A woman who could date men who are 8s and get banged by guys who were 9.5s at age 23 is not likely to be considered anything higher than a 7 at age 30, and that's if everything else is ideal. Hotter guys might still bang her, but that's irrelevant - they aren't committing to her, and if she keeps going after such men, she'll keep getting used and keep getting older.

That's a harsh reality, but it's also the truth - and it's not like the majority of men have it any easier.

[Doom880]

Okay, that's just an ageist and misogynistic comment towards women.
That they can't be beautiful at any age and that they have to look 18 forever, otherwise they're hags. There are women, who look younger than their actual age that you couldn't guess their age correctly, if you tried, for example, like my mother and grandmother and women from my bloodlines. It has to do with someone's lifestyle, genetics and other factors.

Also, you're wrong that men won't consider women in their 30's for a serious relationship. The average age where women get married, at least in the Western world is late 20's or early 30's

[Doom880]

I see some older men on this forum judging women harshly and thinking they can date an 18 year old, as if they're Brad Pitt... I don't understand where this arrogance comes from, but it's laughable.

[MrOracle]

@Doom880 I'm not sure if you actually READ what I said. I don't think I mentioned the woman's looks at all. I focused on FERTILITY primarily and the fact that a woman having a career does not make up for a lack of youth and fertility (or the ability to bond, or to cooperate in a relationship, etc.

Your grandmother may look fantastic, but she's not in any position to provide children to a man, is she? Your mom probably isn't either.

The MAIN reason why a man would get into a SERIOUS relationship with a woman, especially marriage, is to have children. The fact that women put so little value in having children today is a HUGE reason why men aren't offering relationships, much less marriage, at anywhere near the rate that used to be the norm.

Plenty of men would be happy to be in a more casual relationship with a woman, including women in their 30s and 40s, but most aren't willing to make that relationship really seriously, much less offering marriage. And that's what most women in their 30s and 40s actually want. This is why I tried to explain that a man wanting a woman for casual sex has little if anything to do with him wanting her for a serious, committed relationship - the two are separate things.

Be offended and call me names all you like - it won't change the world you live in.

[Guy13]

Now, this truth and probably worse with all boy/no man socialist and communist unemployed and/or couch sitting video gaming with 2 jobs person available, ETC…. —Oh for sure you little wussy boys-your achievements, as reflected by your aptitude and laziness, are exactly the 🧬 pool women want to make families and lineage with. Don’t worry run back to your media and internet who tells you “I’m okay, you’re okay.”

[hi_it_is_me123]

? Did you reply to my question or to these guys? I am sorry but my English is not very good as you see. So i am confused

[Guy13]

Incels, as I understand them, blame women because they can’t get laid…that’s what I addressed.

[Anonymous]

You're so right girl
This forum seems to be full of incels and sexist, ageist and misogynistic comments towards women.. Before I used to get upset, now I just ignore these questions (I know which questions to ignore exactly) and block these people...
I think it's laughable how some of these guys act like they're Brad Pitt or Johnny Depp and can date, or are entitled to date 18 year olds forever and treat women as sex objects.. (I used to know one such guy, he calls all women who no longer look 20 hags)
It's sad that these individuals have to take their insecurities on others, instead of just working on themselves)

[Opinion Owner]

Thank you for MHO 😊

[dustybiker]

I don’t see those comments. I must have blocked all the right people at just the right time. 😁

[Anonymous]

Well kudos on the last statement. That was beautiful humility. Deep respect for that.
I don't know what incel is. Sorry.
I do know that the second you step out of self control to control others is absolute waste of time and frustrating for obvious useless reasons.
Its not possible to control people. You can only influence people
Good mindfulness on what influence you want to be is more helpful.
Have to just let jerks and creeps fade into the background. Even just laugh at their left field comments without a word otherwise.

[MTC29]

Nonsensical. Try harder next time. Of course, there is no next time for me... BLOCKED!

[Phoenix98]

Well I am an attractive fit man so it doesn’t really apply to me.

but I personally don’t give a shit be with whoever your attracted to. There’s plenty of fish in the sea.

[Jamie05rhs]

Lol. You are so adorable. I swear, you are like the sweetest person I have ever met. I love how you always have passionate opinions and go on rants and then afterwards you apologize in case you might have offended someone. I love you.

[Zenit93]

Women amongst modern society act like selfish whores with no morals. It’s a byproduct of culture. Men aren’t losers if they speak out against it. It really has little to do with women's standards and feeling left out.

[Anonymous]

Because I know I can treat you better and take care of you better than the Guys you usually Date.

[PastorJohn69]

Hung like Einstein,
Smart as a horse!

[Pohjolan]

But I am tall and fit.

[msc545]

I am smarter and more educated.

[Waldoe]

I am married to an "Old fat woman"

[Saabiq]

Beautiful women sometimes will choose rich guys

[Kim7mik]

I think no problem

[anylolone]

Why not?