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Do you agree with modern nightclubs now banning staring or approaching people without verbal consent? (Page 2)
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Dumb idea. Harassment is one thing, but looking at someone is not a crime e and shouldn't be treated like one.
Sounds like a place that should be boycotted.
Why are all the guys pissed off because club forbid harassing people? 🤨
It's only harassment if he is not a Giga Chad.
How is looking at someone "harassment"?
@Snsl153 who knows women look at me all the time. Now whether it's because I'm hot or just an un intentional awkward person their is no telling.
Did you actually read what this is all about @vanityfair888? You need “consent” to look at someone. That’s like a punch line from a onion article except it’s really happening.
But you know let them go ahead and do it. They will lose their highest paying customers (guys seeking girls) and go out of business. Also women attending these clubs will think it’s all fun and safe. Then after a few drinks they will look around and start saying to themselves “why isn’t anyone hitting on me”. Women will end up not liking it.
But the scary part about all of this is that business was so weak and woke they are actually trying this. It’s going to fail spectacularly. But really where else will radical feminism be codified into establishments?
Don't move the goalposts. This ridiculous venue policy has no legitimate grounds for being a targeted measure against harassment of customers. Any venue worth a damn will have policies and security in place to protect the public from harassment. But this venue has taken it upon themselves to extend their own personal definition of 'harassment' to include perfectly normal behaviors in that setting, like people looking at the opposite sex and/or initiating conversation with them. And yes, I'm aware that execution matters, there are instances where a man may stare or converse in a way that could be legitimately defined by law as harassment (eg: following her outside the club without invitation, staring her down after she's made ot clear she's not interested, following her into the women's room, invading her physical space and speaking in a way that suggests she may come to harm if she remains unreceptive to advances, any social persistent social cues indicating malice or threat or general disregard for her wellbeing and bodily autonomy etc. Basically, the type of shit that would justify your brother or father kicking some guy's ass). But that sort of behavior is ALREADY universally accepted as harassment, and bouncers in clubs all over the developed world toss guys out onto the street for acting in such ways. But me just noticing an attractive girl at the bar, and going over to say hi and see if she's receptive to conversation, is absolutely not in the same league whatsoever. It's an attempt to demonise any interaction between men and women that isn't totally sanitised, neutered, and desexualised. Women like to flirt too y'know, this specific venue policy is as bad for the girls as it is for the guys, cpz it assumes women need to be coddled and protected from any kind of non-platonic interest regardless of context or her inherent desire for a non-platonic interaction.
@SomeGuyCalledTom ^^^^ hit it on the head above.
However I’m beginning to wonder if this is some sort of clever publicity stunt. Club77 is all over the place in the media right now. They will probably get a very short lived boost in customers.
Anyway like most modern feminist ideas this will ultimately implode and lead to self destruction harming everybody.
How it hurts men is already well discussed. But for people like @vanityfair888 here is the following to think about:
1. this club will drive a lot of guys away. So the percentage of females will go way up. When that happens then this club will be forced to charge all women cover just to make at least some money. So for you girls who just expect no cover charge and/or free drinks you can kiss that long unchecked privilege away.
2. Do you think women spend hours dressing up nice for clubs solely to just look nice 100% and not expect any attention? Well since staring is illegal now then don’t expect just the creeps only to stop. No thoughtful guys including attractive guys will no longer give women the attention they crave.
3. Most women expect guys to approach them. It’s all about “confidence” right. Well again thoughtful guys and/or attractive guys can’t take this risk anymore. So you better dig deep and get used to approaching guys you like (oh by the way you need his “consent now”). Most women hate doing that but no choice now.
4. So let’s say you got the club all excited and relieved. Well some women go to gay bars for the same reason. But after 2-3 drinks you will start looking around asking yourself “why isn’t anyone hitting on me”. Don’t tell me that’s a good feeling because I know it’s not. Women will get bored, frustrated and even depressed. They will stop going to the club too.
Looking at someone MAY be harrassement if you are making them uncomfy on purpose. Also club says that they aren't the club where you come to pick someone up, which means that you go there for other purpose and of you want to approach and pick up someone maybe go to another club then? 🤨 people be getting mad at anything at this point
“ Looking at someone MAY be harrassement if you are making them uncomfy on purpose. ”
^^^^* that THAT. That it doesn’t matter if he didn’t say or do anything. Just him stary at me made me “uncomfy” so let’s throw him out, call the cops and label him a creep just because he’s a man.
SMDH. Women wonder why there is so much “misogyny” in our culture. Why there so much anger and hate. It THAT attitude right there. That completely. Smdh.
@globetrotter22 What the hell does SMDH mean?
@globetrotter22 Spot on correct sir!
@Snsl153 look it up on urban dictionary. You don’t seem too much of a deep thinker anyway. Maybe it’s time you start doing more research. After all progressive young women are supposed to “know better” than everyone else right?
@globetrotter22 I'm not a deep thinker? Wow, you don't know me at all. I'm the very opposite of the stereotypical, young female airhead who only cares about trivial nonsense. If you'd actually read anything at all that I have previously posted here on GAG, you would know that. And no, I'm not at all "progressive".
Maybe you should actually try to understand the person you're insulting first, before you type something stupid like this, something that exposes you for being the utter clown you are.
@Snsl153 it’s just frustrated that half the females immediately think “oh this will stop some creep from harassing me” without looking at the details i. e. no staring without “consent” how the f does that work? I also went in extreme details how this will scare away men and/or make men not approach women that actually want to be approached.
I didn’t see you thinking through any of that. Also what single guy would want to pay for expensive cover and drinks when he isn’t allowed to approach women? Clubs were made for that.
@globetrotter22 Oh for goodness sake, I ALSO think this whole thing is a big mistake, a stupid capitulation to the "woke" barbarians of Twitter who are offended by their own shadows. This business will be out of business within a few months at most, because neither men nor women will want to go to a place where they have to constantly be on their guard, constantly walking on eggshells. No one will be able to actually relax at that nightclub, but that's the reason why people go to them in the first place.
@Snsl153 sorry. I got you confused earlier with someone else about the smdh comment. Also
you are exactly right.
Smdh means “shaking my damn head”. Feel bad now I went off on you. Miscommunication.
Also for the record I never even liked clubs to begin with. I only went when I was younger because my friends dragged me along and/or it was an after party. Women are usually on high guard already at these things. Besides the loud music and being crowded I hated it. I felt like the whole “any guy can take a girl home” was giant myth at these things anyway.
But I see woke insanity like “can’t stare without consent” bleeding over to other scenarios. Like college girls getting college guys kicked out of college for just doing that. It’s a scary precedent.
So basically, any woman can have me booted for where my eyes lool? Wow I better wear blinders XD good thing I don’t visit nightclubs
I agree with this. If you want to enjoy a romantic encounter, set up a gloryhole.
Ell oh ell!
Get woke, go broke. I’m ALL about that shit!
I'll tell you one thing though, nothing makes a Girl more curious than that one guy sitting alone at the bar or table. You'll get approached doing nothing I assure you.
I worked in nightclub industry for a lot of years as long as they post the rules they can do what they want. The biggest question is who would pay to go to something like this?
Imagine asking to get consent to stare at you.
Yeah when you put it like that, it almost sounds like it's weird to stare at someone.
I'd go as far as to say that people even beginning to engage in stupid ideas like this should be punished and ridiculed in society.
It makes sense. Pussy isn't free. If you want to look bribe the nightclub staff or get your own nightclub.
It's just a f*cking excuse for women to lie to MALE employees to get men banned from the nightclubs. But I would still rather see the US ban nightclubs altogether!
Translation: As a feminist club we will ban literally ANYONE who isn't a Brad Pitt body type with at least six million in each of his pockets from coming to our club!
This has to be from the Onion. If not, it's more evidence that the Woke mob is coming to destroy everything. These people need to be relocated to an ice floe and chipped away.
I think it's a great idea so long as it doesn't spread to every club. There still needs to be somewhere we can go to pick up cheap sluts for sordid casual sex.
yeah, like these places are going to kick out paying customers for leering at women.
Well I never liked going to clubs or bars so idc.
It’s a waste of time and money anyways
If it is a publicly traded company, I will short their stock!
How do you get consent without verbs?
This sounds like a either a lefty joke or a right wing plant.
I just looked it up and it's actually legitimate.
@Phoenix98 as in a lefty bar owner puts out a sign as a joke?
Nope as in the owner seriously and with intent put those policies into place and is defending that action. I looked it up and it was on the actual news and there were over a dozen sites writing articles about it. None of it said it was a joke.
@Phoenix98 ok. So that alone means wokeness is stupid?
I think it is but that’s for everyone to decide themselves.
@Phoenix98 ok. Seems like every example you guys put out about “wokeism” turns into a small off shoot bar that just trended on social media.
Like I said it’s not my cup of tea but if it doesn’t bother you or you like it then then awesome.
Not gonna bother me either way.
@Phoenix98 but again, the wokeism you hate isn't infecting your reality. Just the media.
I don't hate it I just dislike it also I don't really watch mainstream news it's all politically motivated and bias BS.
@Phoenix98 sure but its all about our response. The moment we stop being triggered the media will move on.
True.
So are clubs just now catching up to the rules of modern society?
A bit late!! But I suppose it's a good thing.
Except it isn't a "rule of modern society" that you can't stare at someone.
@Snsl153 Yes it absolutely is. Would you think it would be acceptable for a man to stare at you?
Why not? I get stared at all the time, and I just stare right back at them!
@Snsl153 You are unique.
Sounds like a way to close a place probably will lose most/all custom then along comes a convenient 'electrical' fire to hit the place and collect on the insurance then turn the site into plush condos
From what I understand it's ONE nightclub, not multiple ones. Plus, because it is only ONE, it's only in one country.
Yes, and that country unfortunately happens to be mine! Is there a way that I can escape this prison? :(
@Snsl153 migrate
I guess they are couples only Night clubs because they won't be any meeting or admiring.
I'm all for it.
Just to see how long they last.
We'll see how their policy works out when guys won't come, and girls will have to pay to get in.
Exactly
I'll enter those clubs with a sign saying "everyone has my consent to stare at me"
Ha! I'm guessing this club will be out of business soon.
How do u get verbal consent from someone from distance in a club, I can’t hear my friends speak when they r next to me so how do u get consent!
Hell no, this is awfull, wtf should a guy get in trouble just because a chick don't like the way he looks at her
Well if he doesn't want to follow the rules he could just go somewhere else.
They adopted an always belive report... You don't even have to break the rules, you just have to accidentally look at a woman and she can say you looked at her in a way she did not like, even you were just looking around in general or looking right in dront of you
You could do the same thing... but if you find that to be an issue then you could just go somewhere else...
I'm glad my local club has not adapted this yet, so no need to go somewere else yet.
As stupid as it is, I agree with it 100%, but they have to enforce it on both sides.
I don't agree. If we ban staring and approaching, then what is the meaning of clubbing.
i swear the world is slowly turning into a huge vagina 🤦♂️
Doesn't sound like many People will be having Fun at that club.
proud to be living in America, where it's not a crime to look at someone you find attractive. 🤡
No, this is stupid.
It's mens fault. if they weren't such predators this wouldn't have happened
'How To Destroy A Business In 10 Seconds'
Lmao , love how all the men are so pissed at this.
I haven't seen a single angry comment.
You haven't? Ok. There are plenty tho
Maybe they're "pissed" at this because they know that this new rule will only be enforced on them, or because it's yet another example of something that obviously wasn't thought through properly before it was implemented.
This club will soon be closed
(stares slackjawed) This is ridiculous.
Dumbest sh*t I've heard today.
Do you stare at the floor then?
a little snow flaky, and i’m a liberal. lol.
Lol I guess they'll loose a lot of people
WOW... how are suppose to meet anyone?
They won't last long.
oh jesus christ. Talk about clown world.
This really sounds ridiculous.
This club will go broke. Ridiculous rules.
That sounds like a China thing
This is hilarious
Karens at it again
Awesome 👏
Guys pay for most of the cover and drinks at these venues. When you scare them off with such insanity than these clubs will go out of business.
Yes. Consent is key.
@anon... How do you get consent to look at someone in a super loud, drunken, packed, night club? Do you walk up and shout in her ear "hey, you have great ass and titties, can I stare at them"?
Nice. Love it.