Guys: The "Friendzone" is not even half as bad as you make it, if even real

[CityBoy773]

Welcome :)

Ahhhh, the dreaded friendzone. The bad place. Nobody any guy wants to go when with someone he likes, and it's frequently with girls. A notorious place is the mind of men. But, to be blunt, it isn't real. And for those who swear up and down about how real it is, then it's not as bad as you often think. If anything, it can actually be a good thing.

Who's Her Best Friend? Not That Girl, Me!

Guys literally "rush to my aid" and often feel bad for me when they figure out my best friend is, in fact, a very beautiful girl. For some reason, the very fact that we're friends seems to spark pity within them. But then they try an nudge me with the ole, "But you hit it before, right?" comment, which might get you "nudged" in the face with a punch if you disrespect her or me like that again.

In all reality, no. I've never kissed, had sex with, dated, or did anything sexual besides a hug and a few breast squeezes, just playing though, before. We're just friends and I joke around with her like that. It's at a point now where she changes right in front of me, cuddles me if we're in the same bed sleeping (if she doesn't have a pillow to cuddle, I become a pillow as well), and we go out to eat together, but not as a date.

Now I know what you're thinking: Why in the hell am I telling you our relationship? Quite simply, did any of you guys who whine about the friendzone, which I guess I'm in since I DID once like her a little, wonder who her best friend is and why you're friendzoned? A little known fact guys: Sometimes it isn't another girl telling her you aren't good enough or, strange enough, who she's semi-comparing you too.

You, even as a general friend, are the guy she might go to if other guys are bothering her because she feels you won't be immature and salty and actually be able to help. You might be the guy she goes to when unsure about other guys. You might be the guy she asks for approval on. You could even move on from being just friends to maybe a boyfriend, who knows. But being a girls best friend isn't all bad.

My best friend is who I go to for approval on girls, since she knows me best and can see what I often fail to and notice later, who I talk to about anything, and who knows anything about me, as I do her.

So guys, just take being her best friend if anything. Not only does that show other girls you are actually capable of long, caring friendships, it shows you grew up a little mentally and don't have the stupid mindset that 'girls and boys just can't be friends'.

You know you're still considered a friend...

As the little caption suggests, this is true. Too many guys fail to notice this part and neglect it terribly. At least you're friends!!! She could have easily tossed you aside and ignored you, but decided to remain friends. So just take the damn "friendzone" and be glad you still are friends. Don't become a child throwing a temper tantrum because that is exactly what guys who calls a girl a "bitch", "slut", and other disrespectful names for not wanting them looks like. Imagine it like this: You are in Wal-Mart, right, and you see a kid who is begging their mommy for a candy bar. Mom says no and the kid, like many young toddlers, throws a temper tantrum. Imagine you are the child, the candy bar is the girl you want, and the mom is, well, her. Now you like her and you constantly go on and on about her and she says she likes you as a friend. You can either be a child, and go off about it, or grow up a little and accept that she at least likes you as a friend.

Or you can have her in your mind as a distant memory because she'll then assume the role of the observor who minds their business. In other words: You went from being "friend-zoned" to "acquaintance-zoned". Now that's something to cry about.

Your thirst level is on fleek when you consistantly go on

C'mon dudes. Do you really want to look so thirsty you can make a river? Do you need a river? Do you need a lake? Freshwater? Ocean? If a girl says she likes you as a friend, don't continue on. These guys who say "keep on, she'll give in eventually" are giving you bad advice. That translates to, "Keep on. I mean you look desperate and all, but she should give in cause most chicks do. If she doesn't, follow the bro-code and call her out on it. Don't worry, it's normal and you won't look like a whining bitch."

Word of advice from someone who had a thirsty guy on their tail: Not only does it make you look desperate, it makes you look creepy as high hell and I literally got into the habit of having my phone unlocked and ready to call the (hopefully not corrupt, cause those exist) police on his ass. If you end up catching feelings for a girl who puts her foot down and says "No!", and for some reason still persist day in and day out, it is honestly just creepy as shit.

So just go get a drink of water from a fountain or bottle and cool it. If she just wants to be friends, or you fucked that up by being desperate and now she wants nothing to do with you, then stay there. Stay in your lane until A) She actually seems to like you a little more than just friends, or B) You can't even stay friends.

You Made it! Now the conclusion!

Basically, in my opinion, the "friend-zone" isn't nearly as bad as you make it. Now if you claim you love her and she likes you as a friend, that's when you need to take steps back from your friendship in general. It's perfectly normal to maybe like a friend from time to time, but not normal to end the friendship altogether just because she doesn't feel the same because, honestly, not every girl will in the first place.

Now I have many female friends, like over half of all my friends are women. It's not that I'm trying to get them it's just that I get them. I understand them, I still think like a girl from time to time. So I have an easier time making friendships with girls than most guys, for reasons I can't explain currently. But I do, I have many female friends and I gotta say, it's fine really. When I'm seen with a group of girls, other females assume I'm safe and I get approached easier. When I'm alone, they approach me much more than when I'm with a group of guys. Quite frequently, they walk across the street for safety reasons, especially at night.

Why do I bring that up? Because I guess I'm a rare breed of guy who can deal with many female friends, many male friends, and not try to fuck any of them. They're friends for a reason. Some, I make my intentions known a little early on and flirt a little with them and, sometimes, I've been told they like me as a friend and so I back off. Some feel the same way and we go somewhere. Others like me and I'm the one not interested and, unlike guys, actually can remain friends! (crazy, right?!?!?!?!)

So I bring this up not to boast of my many female friends, but to say it's not as bad as it seems. It can be as fun as it is have male friends, though I find females a lot more interesting cause all the guys want to talk about are sports. It can be especially fun when you find that one friend you can flirt around with a little, but it's all in good sport and fun. It can also be fun when you find that one girl who you can actually talk about your type of stuff with, and she can teach you a little compassion and empathy (ya know, basic human emotions guys are taught to repress) along the way. And maybe, just maybe, you can get upgraded to best friend. Or, what I guess some guys are hoping, you can get upgraded to boyfriend.

So I hope the myTake helped some guys. For those who "escaped the friend-zone", don't make the #1 mistake most guys make at this point: Acting brand new.

Enjoy :).

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Because I get this frequently, PM me if you have any questions about my gender cause I WILL NOT answer you in the comments.

[ThisDudeHere]

The friendzone is very simple but people get it wrong all of the time. Most assume that a guy and a girl friends automatically means the guy is friendzoned. No. They're just friends. A girl doesn't fall in love with every guy she's nice to and a guy doesn't intend to fuck literally every girl he's nice to. The friendzone is when one person KNOWS that they other has feelings for them BUT insists on remaining friends, knowing full well that the other person might be hurting inside. The friendzone is when someone uses the other's feelings as a way to manipulate, by giving false hope or what not.

[Transigence]

THANK YOU

[RachelBrigs]

This goes for anyone: if you like someone and they just want to be friends, and it would hurt you too much to be JUST friends, then you don't HAVE to be their friend. Save everyone the heartache and move on.

Its sad when I lose a guy I thought was just my friend because he liked me, but I don't expect him to stick around and feel hurt either.

But personally I've sorta been on the other end of it once, and I know it hurts but personally I was fine with still being his friend. But the situation may have been different considering the nature of our "friendship. "

[alecz]

There is nothing wrong with having friends who are girls. There is nothing wrong with remaining friends with girls who have rejected you. I get this passive attitude from you though. These girls don't normally come around; they might but there is no guarantee. Becoming the crying pillow and go to person for an army of girls who have rejected you and are living their lives isn't exactly the best way to live your own life. It's not the best way for any gender to live their lives. The fact is you got rejected; suck it up and move on. I'm not going to just wait around while you go find fun some other place meanwhile I wait for my long lost love. Shit this isn't a novel set in Victorian times. Chicks don't give a shit man. The friend zone will always be that; a zone for friends, not boyfriends or girlfriends. Can't live your life waiting on one person or even ten. Truth is, that one chick out there who might really care is waiting while you're stuck in la la land. Perspective; important shit dude.

[CityBoy773]

I do move on, but I don't become a general dick who treats them like bitches.

I don't think you get that many of these girls do in fact have bfs when I meet them, just how shit goes. I tried with a rare girl, that didn't work but we're still friends. Tried with multiple girls, realize it wasn't working, stayed friends. I may be "friendzoned", I just call it remaining friends and calling it a day.

Do I do this with ALL my current female friends? Hell no, it's weird. But a few who I am friends with I have tried to get with and shit happened.

Like now, with a girl, I'm showing interest in her but my prides killing me atm.

[Someguy17]

What you are describing is completely different than the friendzone guys talk about. I have some really close female friends myself, and we've either already had sex and gotten it out of the way or neither side is interested (such as in your case.)

The friendzone guys refer to is a disingenuous friendship given by the female in order to extract favors and resources out of a guy that likes her. There is no "friend" to it. She's basically using him, and the guy is so blinded by his sex drive that he can't see it. So yes, it is real and I've seen many "friendships" like this.

It's a sweet deal for the woman. She can have a boyfriend and still have multiple guys giving her things/favors and it's not even cheating. It's a pretty shit deal for the guy who constantly gives and gives in the hope of receiving, but never does. This is the reason many guys avoid friendships with women outright, they've been burned.

You know you have a good female friend when she reciprocates your favors and actually puts effort into your friendship. Hell, I've even had female friends hook me up with other women and that was money.

[Anonymous]

"You can either be a child, and go off about it, or grow up a little and accept that she at least likes you as a friend" #Or you can be a man and say " fuck this shit... I'm not going to stay friends with somebody that I find physically attractive + have to see 2-6x daily on average.

While also knowing that you can't even make a move on them anymore. Since they rejected you the 1st time around.

I mean you'd have to be a special type of retard to give them the satisfaction of having somebody to complain to about the problems with their new BF/GF all while you're waiting for your turn to get with them. That we both know damn well may never happen (stereotypically speaking) #SeeHowStupidThatSounds?

#BTW I also have plenty of female friends just like you that I've never tried to make a move on OR anything of that sort. But maybe it is because of the fact that I'm not "physically attracted" to any of them.

If I was there wouldn't be none of that "we can be friends" #BS. Naw we're going to be something more or nothing at all to each other. Since for example, I already have 50-150+ platonic friendships with females ^_^. What the fuck I need more for? LOLOL

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[Opinion Owner]

if __ doesn't give you any play if and when you're physically attracted them to them you should "STOP BEING FRIENDS WITH THEM IN THE 1ST PLACE"... done ^_^

#FuckAFriendZone lolol

[Opinion Owner]

#BTW just like you I also have plenty of female friends that I've never tried to make a move on OR anything of that sort. But maybe it is because of the fact that I'm not "physically attracted" to any of them.

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[CityBoy773]

Oh my god, you're comments are incredibly annoying to read. Can you be, oh I don't know, a little more mature and just get to the point without all the unnecessary bullshit added on?

[Opinion Owner]

haahahahaha nope cuz trolling (annoying) people is fun ^_^

[Opinion Owner]

this whole take was kinda "simp mangina-ish" bruh!!! + I see that some other GAGuys said the exact same thing/s as me about it also which is funny LMAO.

I mean why would you stay friends with somebody that you want to bang? while also convincing yourself that being friends with ____ is better than being nothing at all with her? I mean you're basically setting yourself up for failure like a little ass boy/would have to be retarded to not only put yourself in that situation but stay in it in the 1st place. Ya know ESP when you could leave at any moment your deemed necessary, right? LOL

[CityBoy773]

I don't want to be with her, hence why we're friends.

See, THIS is one things girls have told me irritates the living hell out of them with guys: Half, most, or damn near all their "friends" want to fuck them. I come across as the rare exception that doesn't want sex from them or to date, but if I do I make it clear to that one particular girl. Not just sex though, I have moral issues against that.

[Opinion Owner]

Hey, I totally agree with you + my girlfriends have told me the exact same thing about 98% of their guy friends. So yeah I know where you're coming from + I get annoyed when girls think I'm going to be the exact same way as those guys before they've even gotten to know me LOL

[Bluemax]

There is another option. You can walk away, if it hurts you too much to maintain the friendship (and in some cases, that will happen).

I see nothing noble in maintaining a friendship that hurts, and sometimes the hurt is inevitable. Thus, the wisest course of action seems to be just walking away. You can do this politely. You needn't be mean or nasty. You needn't resort to calling someone names. You can even be friendly. But you can decide to terminate the friendship, and there is NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.

[Ratiocinative]

Sorry, but men who have a woman as their best friend are guaranteed to be weak and feminine. Nothing wrong with being friends with women, but if you are a masculine male you are going to have a best friend who is also a masculine male. Men are designed to be sexually attracted to feminine energy, so if you're best friends with a woman but you aren't romantically involved with her you're a feminine male. The female you have the closest relationship with should be the one you sexually involved with.

Think about guys who are closer with their moms than their dads. They are feminine because they don't learn those masculine qualities from their dad. Not saying you shouldn't be close with your mom, but once you hit puberty you should definitely be spending more time with your dad because that's how a young boy learns to be masculine. Same thing applies as adults. If you're closest non-sexual relationship is with a woman, and not a masculine male, then odds are you're a weak feminine male.

[Ratiocinative]

Also, that's what the "friend zone" is. When a man is not masculine enough, he cannot attract a woman sexually and thus he is stuck being just a friend to her.

[CityBoy773]

So I'm feminine because I have many female friends? Hell no.

With that logic, what about gay men who have many female friends but are masculine men? What about them?

And don't hit me with that "They're faking" or "That's not real" bull because I assure you, it exists.

[Ratiocinative]

Obviously you didn't read what I said and you reacted emotionally. Sounds pretty feminine to me! Having female friends is not feminine, but having CLOSE or BEST female friends (that you are not sexually involved with) is feminine.

For example. I have plenty of causal female friends. I'd invite them to parties, an event out at a park, or whatever other group activities happen to be going on. However my best and closest friends are masculine males. I wouldn't go hang out at the mall with just one platonic female friend. I wouldn't go workout at the gym with just one platonic female friend. I wouldn't go out to meet women with just one platonic female friend. Those are things you do with other men if you are masculine.

Being sexual with a female is masculine. Being platonic with a female is feminine. If your closest relationships are platonic female friendships, you're feminine. No if, ands, or buts about it.

[CityBoy773]

So by your logic, now, what if my other closest friend is male? Am I bisexual now?

[HowRUbBuddy]

As a guy i can assure you that while there are many nice and good girls out there iam not interested in friendship , hangoing out and doing fun things with girls is not something i want i either want to have that girl or be in a realtionship with her if i can't iam going to back off and go look somewhere else , this is not normal most guys would jump at their female friends if given the chance its natural no matter what you do i can't be "just friends" with girl , we can be friends if she lives far away but someone i see a lot of often... no not a chance.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like you're still in middle school or highschool, which honestly I get, because I had loads of friends that were girls. But it will change for you trust me. Looking back, if i wasn't so innocent, I could have bagged most of them and they would have been down for it had I made the move. BUT I then got into the dating game, and now no longer have any friends that are girls. I will NOT be used as a an emotional bag of shit to fulfill their needs, while i get nothing in return. Sure I could make a few friends that are girls BUT i would rarely hit them up unless there's a party or a group outing somewhere. Never would I call them just to chill together, and if I did my appearance would be short, close to 30 min (which is not likely to happen).

[Roostah]

Sounds like you went from being beta bitch to alpha male.

[Opinion Owner]

@Roostah I was alpha all along my friend. The fact that I had friends that were girls who I could tell had a thing for me while still remaining friends and not doing anything about it is alpha. I just show my true colours now

[CityBoy773]

First of all: We are not animals so STOP with the stupid alpha male stuff ffs.

Second, I get a lot in return, I just choose to not say what.

In reality, I feel very happy personally to give them a male shoulder to lean on when others guys do it, but are expecting a little something physical in return. I get happy and feel proud of myself, which is all I need. In return, I keep them as friends which is all I personally want.

Not looking for sex, just a friendship. If I wanted a relationship, she'd know. And she does know, aka the current girl.

[The_Empty]

Haha, the friendzone has led me two at least two suicide attempts and made my addiction to cutting far worse, and occurred when I was dealing with severe depression, so, I don't think you know that the hell you're talking about!

I don't consider a girl acknowledging me as another human being out of pity as something to be held dear and admired, I view it as an insult. If you rejected me and are of no use to me I want nothing to do with you, I wanted to be with you and you rejected me, if you're not useful in some way then I'm not going to stay around to be you're little puppy, or should I say b*tch?

[LightsOff]

People claim the friendzone is something you don't get out of. Wrong.

Don't want to be in the friendzone because it hurts too much? Don't be friends. It's that easy.

[Scrambledagain]

Its not that easy. Most of the times a true "friendzone" scenario happens when you are constantly in proximity of the girl, like in your class or social group. Most of my friendshipzone situations happened in my social group. To not be friends with her, would mean to leave my other friends, social group or something like that. A man just has to consciously except that he can't have her and be at peace with it. I did this. So I had crushes that I forcefully "friendshipzoned" because I got the hint I was only the friend.

[LightsOff]

@Scrambledagain you can be in the same groups and such but you don't have to be friends. You can be polite. But detached. Nobody is forcing you to see them one on one or to have extensive conversations. Having to face your crush who rejected you is normal. But in most situations you can still detach yourself. You can still not view them as a friend even if you have to deal with them on a daily basis.

[Bluemax]

Very much agree with you, LightsOff.

A problem arises when the woman (yes, women get in the friend zone too, however it's usually men) claims to have been "emotionally manipulated" by a guy who never had any such intention on his mind. Or she complains "It hurts losing a friend! Don't you ever consider her feelings?"

What needs to be said more often, in my opinion, is most of the cases the guy wasn't an evil genius using friendship as a backdoor to a relationship (most by definition meaning more than half), just as in most cases the woman isn't an evil genius using the man's crush to manipulate him to do things for her. And yes, it does hurt to lose a friend, but the woman's feelings aren't the only thing to consider. It is selfish to want to hang on to a friend who you know damn well is hurting in your presence. Hardly any seems to say this. People seem MUCH more likely to just heap phrases like, "You're not entitled to friendship" (99% of all people know this) or...

[Bluemax]

..."You're not really a nice guy if you expected a relationship out of being her friend" (99% never expect a relationship just by being her friend).

[Bluemax]

I think we can all agree that you can be friendly and detached, but the longing and the pain cannot be turned off like a light switch. If it could, no one would ever suffer heartache ever again.

@Scrambledagain
This in fact happened to me, and you're quite right. It isn't that simple. Yes, you can try as absolutely best as possible to detach yourself, but the longing is much more difficult to turn off (if it's even possible at all). To make matters worse, she then went on to a relationship with my friend. This made things MUCH more difficult, and the pain accordingly was worse. I wished them all the happiness they deserved, but I can't deny I came home crying from many outings with them. Eventually I got over it, but it was, as you said, "not that easy." If I could choose, I would have much preferred never to see her again. Not because I was angry at her, but because it would have sped up the recovery process. As it was, it slowed it down immensely.

[LightsOff]

@Bluemax like I said, if you don't treat each others as friends (you don't have to treat each other badly for that) then you're not in the friendzone. Having to see them on a daily basis or hanging out in the same social groups is not the same as being friends, therefore you were not in the friendzone. You were simply someone who had to see someone who rejected you on a daily basis. You weren't "stuck in the friendzone". Although having to see her that often slowed down the recovery process, there didn't have to be a friendzone for you to get out of. It's not the friendzone that hurt here, it was the fact that you had to see her face regularly and see her be with your actual friend.

[Scrambledagain]

Yeah, it's still not that simple. Yes you can be in a group and not be close friends, but I was personally good friends with my crushes. These dynamics are not black n white. Try this one, my one crush, who actually liked me, came to watch me play soccer a week after meeting her. She was my friends sister. after that match she went for my brother. So I had a double whammy of her being my bro's girlfriend and my friends sister. Like I knew the girls family lol. You can't just switch that off. Then yeah, I made friends with this group of girls at university and I was really amped about this one girl. But my best friend at the time was this hot Italian dude and guess what... my best friend got her. he got all the girls. He taught me a valuable lesson: a minority guys get the majority girls. yeah... I have plenty of these stories.

[LightsOff]

@Scrambledagain again, not in the friendzone.

[Scrambledagain]

Was in the friendzone. I know what a friend is (I have heaps) and I know the definition of a zone. Yes I could have walked away from all of them but I would've been a real dick (opposite of friend) if I didn't give them lifts when they needed them, get them a Christmas present or two, I used to go to the ones house for haircuts, watch movies etc. You know you are a friend when you know her parents well lol. I don't know what you define as friend, buts it's either cold or very warm ha ha.

[Ulyss]

Lol friendship it's just not for me if I am interested in the girl "but if I wasn't interested in her then that's another story" and I don't want to be hearing about her getting railed/drilled by some dude that treats her bad I don't need that bs and I got better things to do with my life haha xD but if guys enjoy self torture by all means they can stay

[MikeyTheRebel]

Exactly lmaoo

[existing_not_living]

Ugh. I wish guys would stop WHINING about being put in the "friend zone" deal the fuck with it. Gosh. It is so annoying. This is one of the most annoying things on GaG. Having to put up with men always complaining about women and being in the friend zone. I've made a rule for myself that prior to getting into a relationship with a guy, we have to have been friends for at least a year before I even consider being in one with them. So suck it the fuck up.

Rant over.

[DarkHumorRUs]

Do you know how many fuckin friendzone Takes there are?
Do you know how many start with fuckin "Ah, the dreaded friendzone?"

Too many. Holy cocks.

[CityBoy773]

Duh, I know. It wasn't meant to be serious, some of y'all take these way too seriously.

Oh, and I've only heard the term 'Holy cocks' by my gay friend and you just reminded me of his hilarious ass, so thanks!

[DarkHumorRUs]

I was trying to think of something other than "holy fuck" cause I use fuck too much.

[Anonymous]

Thank you. I see people complain about this all the time and it's annoying.

From my experience, if anything, I think it's worse when you ask a girl out that you started off as friends with and then not only does she reject you but hates you and avoids you like the plague, which it makes it awkward when you see them from now on, especially if they're friends with your friends/acquaintences. I've had that happen twice and one girl made it seem like I assaulted her. She even got her friends to hate me which was extreme and it's like Jesus fucking Christ, all I did was ask you out.

[Opinion Owner]

Besides, if you only talk to women if you're attracted to them then you're gonna have lots of issues. I may not have the best luck with women but having female friends, attractive or not, helps you develop skills. Besides, having female friends allows you to meet their female friends.

[Gonetowardthewind]

I guess I could be considered friendzone, by all my friends that are females. I don't worry about getting into relationships and only worry about making friends. This way I get to meet a lot of people, and don't have to worry about getting rejected. Plus eventually with so many female friends, I'm bound to form a relationship with one of them

[NervousToTheMax]

Your myTake is contradictory. If you have feelings for someone and don't want to only be friends, then you should break it off immediately. If more guys did this, the "friend zone" wouldn't exist since walking away from someone you have feelings for allows for attraction to grow. In essence, you become the biggest challenge in a woman's eyes.

[Gommers]

I keep saying it, the friendzone doesn't exist. She either has interest in you but doesn't want you to know, you're dating her, or she doesn't even acknowledge that you exist. Don't believe women when they say otherwise, they don't understand why they keep men around and get along with them better than other women. Nothing, between the sexes, is nonsexual.

[RachelBrigs]

I didn't mean to up vote this.
So you're telling me I secretly want to bang all my male friends?

[Transigence]

@RachelBrigs I think he means you are keeping around plan Bs.

[RachelBrigs]

@Transigence so basically I want to date all of them given no other option.

[Transigence]

@RachelBrigs No, you want to date the next best one, striking your current best option.

[RachelBrigs]

@Transigence and you arrived at this conclusion how? Because this is how you feel about your female friends?

[Gommers]

@RachelBrigs no its because this is how biology works. You always position yourself with your best options at arms reach

[RachelBrigs]

Biology hardly explains friendship. It may explain attraction, but friendship, no.
I am not attracted to any of my guy friends in the slightest. Like 100% honesty here, thinking of them that way is kinda gross.
And I know them well enough to know that they make shitty boyfriends. Even if they were attractive I wouldn't see them as an option. I'm friends with them for the same reason I'm friends with girls. I enjoy their company and care for them.

The only guy "friend" I've ever been attracted to, ended up NOT being a "friend. "

[Gommers]

@RachelBrigs

There's no such thing as friendship for the sake of just being friends. There's always something deeper, a more greedy need. It's not something that's at the forefront of your mind, it's an instinctive urge. If the situation came about in the correct way, you'd have sex with any one of your male friends. That's all there is to it, it's instinctive. We like to pretend we're special because we're "Self aware" but it all comes down to survival at the end of the day.,

[RachelBrigs]

You're delusional 😂😂 do you know how many of my guy friends have tried to have sex with me? Probably about.. three or four? Did I have sex with any of them? No. Did I want to? Not at all.
You don't understand. I'm not friends with guys I'm attracted to. The only guy friend I've been attracted to ended up not being just a friend like I already said.
But have fun thinking you literally know everything.

[Gommers]

@RachelBrigs

No, I'm educated. You're ignorant of the facts because you don't like them. Not my problem, I'm not saying you want to or will ever fuck there but there's an attraction there otherwise you wouldn't even acknowledge their existence.

[RachelBrigs]

I'm sorry that you're so horned up that you can't give a girl any of your time unless you want to fuck her. Also, you back tracked. You had just said that I would have sex with them if I had the opportunity. Now you're saying you didn't say that. LOL

[Gommers]

@RachelBrigs

You can't read can you? May I suggest "See Spot Run" it's a book for beginning readers. I don't want to fuck anyone, I'm not dating anyone, I have male and female friends, but I know there's an attraction to my female ones that's deep. You would have sex if the correct survival situation took place, probably not anything short of most of the people you know dying. Women keep men around for options too, but that's much less the reason than having someone around in case of emergency and need of strength or reproduction. Don't argue with me, you're making yourself look pretty stupid here.

[RachelBrigs]

". If the situation came about in the correct way, you'd have sex with any one of your male friends. " had you specified that the situation was the apocalypse or some shit, this would be a different conversation. If all of humanity was depending on me fucking a guy friend yeah I just might, but I still do not find any of them attractive.

I keep them around the same reason I keep my female friends around. If you still don't understand then I'm sorry that you're stupid.

[Transigence]

@RachelBrigs I didn't arrive at that conclusion. It's just my interpretation of what Gommers was saying.

[Transigence]

Don't forget a source of male goodies (money, labor, wisdom).

[CityBoy773]

I'm getting where @Gommers and @RachelBrigs are coming from and in my experience it's not even biology but, sadly, society. Sort of a nature vs. nurture argument.

On the girls side, you're taught it's fine asf to have many male friends but not fuck them, where guys are taught that to have many female friends must mean he's fucking them.

Quite honestly, I agree with Rachel in this situation and think you, and most of the male population at this point, think in a very immature mindset about male and female friends. They do exist, but nowadays it's treated as taboo. Stupid and sad really.

But your explanation explains why girls have issues with me when I'm talking and, unlike most guys, actually want a friendship, not a friends with benefits relationship. I don't roll that way, that's honestly disgusting asf to me.

[Gommers]

I think you don't have any right discussing matters you have no knowledge or education on. There's plenty or documented research out there that shows what I've stated. I don't talk out of my ass.

[CityBoy773]

Research and knowledge does not apply to everyone, THAT is a fact smartass

[jormungand]

@take owner you are basically saying Gommers is right, because research (except things like physics, etc) never applies to everything. What Gommers says is true in my opinion, but that doesn't mean it actually matters, because that is not how we experience it. You are basically saying the same thing from a different perspective, resulting in a useless argument... _-_

[tenchu11]

Easy friendzone exit "oh okay your not interested in me, I understand" later that week
Girl: want to hang out? (Probably to listen to her guy problems)
Guy: sorry I have a date

Watch her freak out and start trying to hang out

[CityBoy773]

you're*

[VampireEmpress]

"Now if you claim you love her and she likes you as a friend, that's when you need to take steps back from your friendship in general."

I think that's the main thing that bothers lots of guys. now if only the would follow the 2nd half of your sentence lol good take!

[Nice_Guy_Last]

TL;DR version:
"Friendzone" is not a bad thing, it's an opportunity to be friends with a girl. Sometimes, you just have to take things with a grain of salt, and look at the silver linings: at least she is still your friend. If you truly like her as a person, that should be enough.

[genericname85]

My best friends are female too and I never felt the urge to have more than that but thats not the friendzone. If I have real feelings for a girl, it will hurt me to be around her if I know she won't ever want me as more than a friend... A friendship in the friendzone is impossible for me.