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Matchmaking: Why the Old Timers Did It Better (Page 2)
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If they did it better, it's only because the purpose of marriage was to grow families and create or strengthen alliances, not for romance or sex.
It also doesn't help that marriages are nothing more than financial burdens with absolutely nothing to show for it, anymore...
I also forgot to mention the two following facts that need to be recognized:
1. There's nothing systematically wrong with divorce outside of religion, and marriage is universally a non-material issue.
2. Everyone changes.
nice new age bs dude. values are universal and timeless. nothing fundamental changes only society degenerates in terms of ethos. nuclear family is the natural order of things not some conspiracy.
The only objective values are those derived from property rights. Everything else is meaningless. Nothing "new age" about it.
marxist pseudointellectual is well... a marxist pseudointellectual. property never defined relationships. rather the opposite happened.
That you called me a Marxist proves you know nothing since Marxism is anti-property.
I mean, really. How possibly stupid can you be to confuse anything I said for Marxism? As far as what humans have always done, that doesn't mean anything a defense against or for something being objective or acceptable, dear.
I mean, really. How possibly stupid can you be to confuse anything I said for Marxism? As far as what humans have always done, that doesn't make anything a defense against or for something being objective or acceptable, dear.
you didn't comprehend my comment and i am the stupid one? Marx explained all history in terms of property and economy cycles. like you did. he preached the abolition of private property and its subjection to the dictatorial proletariat state. i never stated Marx was pro-property. these are your own dumb assumptions. wow education level in america must be really low.
I made no assumptions, you did. So quit trying to project your practically-unintelligible insecurities onto others and take your dribble and shove it where the sun doesn't shine like the puritan you are.
well if i'm a puritan, you are a brainwashed new age hippie. either i have some etheral insecurities like the ones you imagined and proposed, or i can see clearely through all your post hoc rationalisations and politically correct nonsense, into the troubled kid that you are that tries to project the problems of his own imperfect family onto the world, and with a cynical facade of supposed objectivity assume he worked out the underlying factors of this "evil institution".
You call me politically correct, and yet here you are advocating for the politically correct.
Here's a tip: go read up on market anarchism, including Murray Rothbard, Robert Lefevre, & Ludwig von Mises.
If i wanted to advocate on politically correct i'd go all LGBT for life, live and let live, viva la modern dating method. instead i advocate the most efficient methods available. neuropsychology shows the optimal growth of kids is on a nuclear family. so all the anarcho-economical bs in the world that you shove down my throat to change the subject and distract the attention, won't change anything.
I've shoved nothing down your throat. From the moment you responded, you've done nothing but throw personal attacks against me, project your own insecurities onto me, make baseless assumptions, and now you're lying about political correctness. That you're even advocating for marriage IS politically correctness. Marriage is a POLITICAL and RELIGIOUS institution and is the status quo, which as I stated, had to do with strengthening and creating alliances while having zero to do with anything else. Hell, the fact your government has to SUBSIDIZE marriage proves it's never been any sort of ECONOMICAL choice but a financial burden and disaster waiting to happen.
Economics > Psychology.
Oh, and while we're at it... nowhere did I argue against the concept of pre-arranged marriages, or relationships. Sayonara, Baizou.
you are in denial. your own foul perception of family very proprably depicts your own personal bad example. everything else is a post hoc rationalisation you've made to built a comsotheory around that trauma and burry it deep down. even the assumption that sex and romance is foreign to marriage shows the bias. your totally unscientific approach shows nothing but prejudice. you assume based on nothing that marriage is a property and alliance based institution. and also a religious and political one. these ungrounded assumptions, are also strengthened by your confused leftish ideals and perception of how the economy works. the fundamental goal of any species is multiplication and successful perpetuation. everything else is a psychological deception. this institution offers the optimum platform for this. also marriage doesn't have to be pompous and costy. you can have it in a very close circle of family and friends.
I definitely agree. Just a heads up someone who blocks anyone who disagrees with her claimed that divorce rates are falling, that is untrue, the number of divorces are falling because so many people aren't even getting married anymore.
I agree with this. My kids dont want to get married... or have children.
'Today each kid with a smartphone, an internet connection and a functioning vagina/penis thinks it has grabbed pope by the testas,'
I have zero idea what grabbed pope by the testas means
Me either so I just took it literally. Which makes no sense either but what can you do.
its an expression. to "think you've grabbed pope by that testas" is to think you are a special snowflake/ invulnerable/ have special priviledges or knowledge etc.
Statistically speaking it's much more efficient
people just assume if you don't the person you won't like him
There are scientific researches about this subject
I won't ever meet someone this way tho , I am just saying we shouldn't blame people who choose this
Personally I prefer and like the old not so much the new.
Interesting take, it's basically how we use to do it through networking, someone knows someone who might make a good match that they know, a blind date type of thing, there are a lot of success stories with that
wow i didn't have time to read all this but that tampon tweet is so stupid haha i hope thats not a real person lol
This is a nice mytake, something different. I would like to see more.
you will. more are coming about rationality and life relationships and mathematical relationships.
Interesting Take, I wonder if the Matchmakers could help me :P
Tbh, I don't think I agree. Matchmaking in the past was less about love/attraction, and more about status
attraction isn't love. its lust and hormones messing with your brain. love is earned after years of coexistence. as for status what kind of status did the poor and uknown families actually enjoy? kid get a grip... .
The old times did it forced and under strick patriarcal or matriarcal rules, it had more to do with family aliance, power and survival. People in those days never did had the privilidge to be free to chose their own life.
again you, the otaku maid, and jackquesevol should all hang out with each other cause you all fail to grasp what the article is about. its not about forced marriages for economical interests. its about free people who liked their mates like my grandparets met.
I did read somewhere that match made connections have a much higher success rate...
If they did it better why are so many of th em getting divorced
efficient matchmaking can't make up for shitty characters and skyhigh egos. except if you talk about bad match making which is not the subject of the article.
No. Come on, get your two neurons to cooperate. She made the case that matchmaking did better than random dating, and said that matchmaking partners divorced LESS.
I guess matchmakers have good intentions some of the time
You fix things that are broken, you don't walk away... that's the difference.
It should be a choice. And there isn't objective side to this.
Old people treated marriage and women like actual property. I think I'll take the young person's approach.
not the ones i've met.
do you know what "history" is? Because if you studied "history" you would know this is a fact.
you are off topic. you only have an illusion of liberty wih your new dating method. in fact you are a slave to the media and the companies who brainstorm you with what to like and not like. and political agendas.
that was complete nonsense. You don't seem to understand that the bible, Koran and many laws from the past treated women like property.
The "traditional marriage" was a legal exchange for property, land, money etc. It had nothing to do with love.
You are just completely ignorant of history and how marriage got started. Go ahead and look up the reasons marriage was invented.
1) u dont have enough evidence and references for so back in time, and 2) you are still off topic. i'm talking abou democratic matchmaking as it happened in our villages and cities in Greece in my grand parents and great grandparents time.
So biblical passages aren't enough evidence for you? You're in denial.
the bible is historically unsubstanciated. and im a christian saying this. its not Christ's work. its humans creation and was wildly altered and edited throughout the centuries.
You're not very smart are you?
Genesis 3:16:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
Ephesians 5:22-24:
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Colossians 3:18:
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord
history will show who is smart and who isn't here. people judge and compare. ur irrelevant nonsese which only aims to pick me, and my article that made a mathematical connection out of relationships. and i will dwell more on that on future articles. in fact we have such a difference in level, that i can't explain to you why you are saying bs. you won't understand. if u dont understand u are off topic rant to yourself all you want.
these verses were written by men and for men. Christ said there is no man and woman, slave and free man etc etc.
I don't think the old timers did it better. If it was better, why did it stop?
roman cement lasts more than 2000 years now under sea water. modern portnland cement barely lasts 50 years on the ground and is far less ecological. there is a process called degeneration, humanity very frequently goes through it.
I can't believe you just stated this...
Op...
@Djaaay you believe it or not its true.
And how would you know that ?
@Djaaay cause we see the cement's resistance to stresses and corrosion.
Funny , how we all take God out of the equation , and a multitude of different weird stuff starts happening.
i think it was a good thing
Thanks! What I've been trying to tell them!