Why Girls Should Put Every Guy In The Friend Zone

[EpicDweeb]

There are generally two major perspectives that I've seen in regards to the friend zone. The first of which, is that it doesn't really exist, and that... well assuming the page loads you can see for yourself below.

The point being, that some people straight up deny the friend zone as a "figment of the imagination." While others believe it to be a very real place due to the way they separate friends from relationships.

Defining

I am of the opinion that the friend zone does very much exist... though not in the way it's usually thought of or described. However, the only important thing is how you look at it personally. For this MyTake, assume that the friend zone doesn't exist... and assume that every guy believes it does. (Or at least that you can make them it does.)

Relationships: A Different Approach

I've gotten the impression that most people in relationships don't start off as friends. Usually they kind of know each other and kind of like each other and decide to go on a date, or they meet online and decide to meet up for a date. As a general rule, it's safe to say that a lot of people start with the premise of a potential relationship.

I'll be the first to admit that there are plenty of jerks out there who feel automatically entitled to a relationship, or sex, etc. the minute they buy a girl a drink. There are many guys out there who just want to be in a relationship with a girl for sex, or for status, or whatever else they gain from it personally. Their focus isn't on the girl.

What does the friend zone have to do with this?

Again, let's assume that most guys think girls put at least some guys in the friend zone... Now, if a guy assumes that he has no chance of being in a relationship with you, and only cares about you for the relationship and the things he seems to think go with it... by making him believe he's in the friend zone you've managed to get rid of someone who cared about you for all the wrong reasons.
In other words, if done properly, you can use the "friend zone" to weed out all the guys who just like you for your looks, or your body, or your status etc.

However, there is still the matter of finding a guy who DOES like you for all the right reasons. This is where realizing personally that the friend zone does not exist comes into play. Don't assume, just because a guy is your friend, that

1. He can't, or doesn't like you,

OR

2. That you can't like him as more than a friend.

If you start a relationship with a foundation, it will be able to put up with a lot more tension and stress than if you didn't. If you've known the guy you like as a friend for however long, you know you like him as a friend. You've likely learned to put up with him. You know his quirks, his likes, his dislikes. You've probably learned how to argue about things with him and then how to make it up afterwards. And the best part is... if he thinks he's in the friend zone and has no chance at you, then he's sticking around because he likes you for you. Not because of your body or for sex, but because he likes you as a friend... and potentially, if given the chance, as more than a friend.

For Guys

Let me make this brief... guys, if a girl wants you to be their friend, just be their friend. It doesn't matter if you won't be in a relationship with them. If you have the option of making a friend, don't reject it simply because you can't be anything more. Be the best friend you can be, and be content with having her as a friend. If it turns into something more, that's awesome, and congrats to you... but you aren't entitled to it. DO NOT ASSUME YOU DESERVE ANYTHING FROM HER!!!! Be content with what you've got. It's a great thing to have friends who really care. The least you can do is be somewhat worthy of it by returning the favor.

(I'm sorry if there are any major grammatical, or spelling errors. It's late and I'm a bit tired writing this. If something is unclear, please either leave an opinion on it, or message me, and I'll try to get back to you as soon as I can).

[btbc92]

Thank You! Seriously Thank you!

This is the most biggest mistakes those friend-zone dwellers [both male and female] FAIL to understand. I had most of my rejections done because of this. They so claimed they like you, yet you don't know them. Nothing but strangers, yet they like you? Huh. That's funny. But when all is said and done with every failed relationship some still comes running back to you. Most girls especially don't want to date strangers. If you met her at a bar, etc. You are STILL A stranger. What makes it crazier? They date for months, years and may even get married. They still don't know their partner. Everything you've explained in exactly why I always told guys that claimed they were interested 'I want us to get to know each other as friends first'. But supposedly the one who shot you down was the one who lost out. Last I checked, they lost out, but now as I got older, I can care less no offense.

Thank you again for the myTake. Just know you'll piss off guys who are only in it for the sex and say they aren't, then when you give examples like you did, they swear up and down it isn't a relationship without sex and how men NEED SEX. Okay, get it all you want. But don't complain and say how women today are such 'whore's.'

[GeorgeDubyaKUSH]

Whenver I get in the friend zone by a girl I'm sexually or romantically interested in, I bluntly tell them "I don't want to be your friend, I want to be your boyfriend/lover. If we can't be lovers, then I don't want to be around you and I don't want to know you at all. I want something more, and if you don't that's fine, but if you don't, then I'm gone forever." Sometimes saying that has led them to remark on how refreshing it was to hear me say that, and a relationship resulted. Other times, it just ended up in me walking away and never talking to them again, or at least never being friends with them. All men should do this, but I understand that many won't do it, because they "oneify" a girl and feel that they would rather subject themselves to the excruciating pain of being around a girl that will never like them back just because they can't bear not to have them in their lives, even if they are setting themselves up for the hell that is unrequited love, and "at least having them as a friend is something". This is the absolute worst way to go about things: being around a girl you like but that doesn't like you is one of the most painful forms of torture known to man, and every man is so, so much better off just cutting off all contact with her and never seeing her again, because things WILL get VERY messy otherwise. You say men "don't deserve anything" from the girl, and that's true, but what you do not understand is that SHE doesn't deserve anything from HIM, either. She doesn't deserve his friendship, or his kindness. She doesn't deserve his platonic affection, and she doesn't deserve for him to care about her. Guys, ignore the idiot that made this take; DON'T allow yourself to get in the friendzone, do stop trying to become lovers but don't stay her friend, just cut off all contact from her and don't give her the pleasure of having you as a friend. She has taken away any chance of romance between the two of you forever, so you need to take your friendship away from her forever.

[EpicDweeb]

I feel like, to some extent this is sarcastic... however, I'm going to assume for a moment that it's not. I appreciate your comment, and while I don't agree in many regards, I do understand. It can hurt to no end being near a girl you like, and who will never like you back. I've never been through this personally. I acknowledge that guys do not OWE girls anything... never the less a man ought to give respect to others and act in kindness towards them. It's not about what they deserve, it's about how you ought to act as a person. I was always raised to believe that I should do what I can to love others with no expectation of anything in return. To help others as a gift, and not an investment, expecting to be compensated for my efforts. This is how I try to live. My world view is going to be part of anything I write. I must admit what I said is a bit idealistic in assuming that it's not that hard for guys to just suck it up, to get over the girl and to be her friend.

[EpicDweeb]

It has never been something I found difficult or painful. I've learned to delight in what I have rather than what I don't. I think it's mostly a matter of perspective and worldview. Mine helps me to simply love others for the sake of loving others. I would hate for a girl to tell me she has feelings for me just because I said I had them for her. I wouldn't want her to sacrifice her integrity just to make me happy, nor would I want to guilt trip her into liking me. I'm not saying "just suck up your feelings and be her friend on the off chance she changes her mind." Be honest with your feelings as much as possible, and if a girl doesn't return those feelings, then do what you think is best.

[SinghSong]

If we're told "DON'T ASSUME YOU DESERVE ANYTHING FROM THEM", meaning that we can't have expectations of them, that means that no trust whatsoever can be invested in that person to do anything for you, to be relied upon, to care about you or to even see you as a human being- our rights to exist, and to all of our freedoms, are all assumptions about what we deserve from others. If we can't assume that we deserve ANYTHING from a person, then that person definitely is NOT a friend- they're your master, and you're their slave/pet.

Friendship, people who really care- do we assume that we deserve these things from others? YES- and we have EVERY RIGHT to expect these things, which constitute actual friendship, from those who CLAIM to be our FRIENDS. I AM worthy, and I won't tolerate ANYONE who tries to belittle me, diminish my own self-worth and make out that other peoples' assessment of my own worth is the ONLY THING that matters.

You're advocating having girls take away all of our rights to value ourselves, place a price on all of our heads and treat us all like mere toys or fashion accessories. And if you get off on that, then fair enough. But I will never, EVER, let that happen to me. And NO-ONE with ANY self-respect or belief in their self-worth, whether male or female, would EVER do what you're telling us all to do.

[Xavixk]

WOW... Yes he screwed up a sentence, but if you read it in context I think it's pretty clear that he meant to say "DON'T ASSUME YOU DESERVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN FRIENDSHIP FROM THEM". He is not saying girls should treat us as servants and not return the friendship.

[EpicDweeb]

@Xavixk Thank you Xavixk for your clarification.

[Anonymous]

At first glance, I liked the take because I also noticed that people often start with premise of potential relationship and fail whereas most people with long relationships have started as friends (I have also fallen for my bestie).

However, there are some things wrong.

Although I admit that best friends would make best couple but why is it necessary to be friends before starting anything? If you are attracted to someone or like them because of whatever reason, why not just say it?
If you are friends and fall for him/her then it's great but if you make someone a friend with ulterior motives then it's dishonest.

"by making him believe he's in the friend zone you've managed to get rid of someone who cared about you for all the wrong reasons." - again, ulterior motives. Dishonesty. Manipulation.

"If a girl wants you to be friend, the be a friend" - what about you then? What if you are not happy with it? If you like her so much that you can be happy in her happiness then sure, go ahead. Stay as her friend.

[EpicDweeb]

You make a lot of very reasonable points. So first off... Thank you :)

1. By starting as friends, I'm not saying you should hide your feelings for a person. Simply that you should be cautious about them until you get to know them better as a friend. If you really know nothing about a person before getting into a relationship with them you risk a lot. If you break off the relationship you're likely not going to continue to be friends with them, assuming your relationship didn't have a strong friendship as its foundation. (At least from what I've witnessed). Also, for the most part I've really just been talking about when guys are interested in a girl, she shouldn't just say "okay let's go out." Rather, it's wiser for her to be friends with them for the present until she gets to know them better. If they were willing to stick around, they're a lot more likely to be worth her time.

[EpicDweeb]

2. By "making him believe he's in the friend zone" all I mean is, making it clear that you only want to be friends for the moment. Many guys believe the friend zone is real and will see this as "I'm in the friend zone." Many guys who just want to find someone pretty to date, or to have sex with someone, will move on to another girl pretty quickly. I'm also not saying that she should do it simply to find out whether or not a guy is worth her time. Merely, that she should use the illusion of the friend zone as a safety precaution. If a guy is interested in her, she shouldn't just go out with him on a whim, rather she should start as a friend and get to know him a bit before going out with him.

[EpicDweeb]

3. If you don't love her enough to just be her friend, then you don't have to be her friend. That's up to you. If a guy is genuinely infatuated with a girl that's one thing. If he's in love with her, that's another. And if he just want to date her/have sex with her, that's another thing altogether. The friend zone is usually pretty effective at getting rid of the first and last types of guys. If a guy is only infatuated with a girl, the relationship isn't likely to last long, assuming they get together. As soon as the emotions wear off, the relationship is, nine times out of ten, going to fall apart. If a guy can't be content with her as a friend, (and yes, I acknowledge that this may stir up quite a bit of controversy), then I really don't think he's likely to be mature enough to be good boyfriend material in the first place. I acknowledge that much is my opinion and I'm sure many people could give me reasons as to why I am wrong. Even so it is my perspective.

[EpicDweeb]

Again, thank you so much for the opinion. It helped me to sort out and clear up my thoughts on the subject.

[Opinion Owner]

1. I agree. If you have feelings = you probably know that enough. I don't know what's definition of feelings for others. Anyway, you should wait till you are sure about knowing them.

2. Oh, then I agree. Got confused because of your choices of words in the take. Use illusion (I still don't like to use this word for this matter) properly in a way that guys don't get hurt or misguided. "Let me know you little more..." is better than "Friends?" - both serve same purpose but in the later, guys will get confused or might think that he's in the zone. In short, girls should choose appropriate way of using the illusion.

3. "If a guy can't be content with her as a friend, then I really don't think he's likely to be mature enough to be good boyfriend material in the first place." I wholeheartedly agree!

[Opinion Owner]

No problem man. This matter is something that affects me and my friend. #3. I can relate to it. I get many 'zone'-related advices and also advices that I should cut my friend out of my life because she got boyfriend before I could gather courage. I am not hurt by any means, in fact very happy. Hard to understand for others.

Maybe you should have taken time and elaborated all these points in detail in the take. You wouldn't have gotten those white knight comments.

[Opinion Owner]

Also, I don't know if I am the only one like this. I have actually never liked any girl. I mean, I find girls attractive (some are VERY attractive!) but I cannot 'feel' desire to approach them. They are just 'eye-candy'. Only times I felt that tiny bit of desire was the times I knew girls well enough.

[Xavixk]

Okay here comes my take on your myTake.
First of the whole put every guy in the friendzone to weed out the wrong kind has a lot of flaws. First of you wouldn't just weed out the guys who only wanted sex. Because your assumption is that it would only weed out the bad guys is wrong I think. Like you said most relationships don't start out with them as friends... They meet, the like each other and they go on a date... Meaning the guy has in most cases made his feelings for the girl clear in the beginning, if she then does as you say and rejects his advances with a "let's just be friends"... Your assumption is then that the guy will just swallow his feelings and be friends with her, hoping that she will perhaps one day change her mind... This may be good for a plot in a romance novel, but isn't too realistic. Why would the guy put himself through that? She has already rejected him and he is supposed to hang around her all the time and pretend to not have feelings for her... I mean the pain alone of being so close to the one your in love with, without being able to hold and care for them the way you really want to. I mean there is a reason why the first step of getting over someone is to get rid of anything that reminds you of them and cut them out of your life, it's because distance and time is the only way those feelings will go away. And you want them to be around the one they love with them treating you like a friend, that would be way to painful for me... And all this in the hope that she will change her mind? She has already rejected him. No guys would do that. So if a girl rejects a guy she is actually interested in romantically, I think in most cases she will lose him.

[EpicDweeb]

I don't think for a minute that he should just swallow his feelings for her and pretend like he doesn't care about her. On the contrary I think he ought to continue to love her and treat her as though he loves her. Assuming she's still fine with hanging out, and such, there's no reason a guy can't still get to know her better. There's no reason he can't be there for her to protect her in times of need. Why should her failure to return those feelings of love stop a guy from showing them? Sure he has nothing to gain from it other than friendship... but friendship is an amazing thing, and if he truly loves her, he shouldn't be focused on what he can get out of it in the first place. I learned that in terms of hormones and such, a crush will only last for 3 months or so tops. If it lasts any longer, a person is in love. If the two just met, chances are it can't start as any more than a crush meaning that in about three months, he'll be over her.

[Xavixk]

Friendship and nothing more, with the girl you are in love with is way to painful. Like I said it's a nice plot for a romantic comedy, but unrealistic in real life. Most guys wouldn't put themselves through that and that doesn't make them bad guys.

[Swiss_Tengu]

The friendzone is real, but nothing more than an immature copout of BOTH parties from dealing with the matter at hand.
If you can't call a stranger your "boyfriend", then how can you call him your "friend"? It's not like being friends is a stage below being in an intimate relationship.
Today people can be intimate without many common interests, even for quite some time. That's called being "lovers". It can be as simple as mutual self-benefit.
Being friends is basically impossible without common interests.
Those who say they like you, without knowing you, actually mean they feel attracted to you (both physically and outward personality wise) and first of want to be your lover, wether you have common interrests yet or not.
If you're not interested in intimacy with a stranger, then tell him just that.
If you feel like he could have potential, and you are willing to find out, then dating (as in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating: "two or more people meet socially... with the aim of each assessing the other's suitability as a prospective partner in a more committed intimate relationship...") would be the way to go.
If you aren't into him at all, telling him that (like a good oldfashioned and propper rejection) is advised.
The friendzone exists due to fear of rejection or having to reject someone.

[EpicDweeb]

An interesting perspective. I don't know that I agree... but a solid read none the less.

[Swiss_Tengu]

P. S. The same goes for the genders swapped (or any other prefered gender).

[AnikaK]

well, you can date and become friends at the same time. and, friend behavior iusvery diffeent from dating behavior. only way t0o know if it can work is to try. life is ot 1000 years long. i think its best top date if you're attracted and if it doesn't work move on. if im dating and feel i dont know him, something us wrong.

having said that, I've never been comfortable dating a person im not friends with fist, but im working on it. bc life is short. plus i have physical needs that are not satisfied by friendship. and i not even talking sex. if i touch a friend the way id want hed think he liked him more anyhow, so why not date. waiting is just waiting for what i want and it might not work. whats the point.

if you can't form a friendship while dating its abad set up, in my opinion dating should not cancel out friendship.

[EpicDweeb]

I whole heartedly agree, it shouldn't cancel out friendship. The issue is when it is done in place of friendship. Two people may know the other person in the sense that they both go to the same school or whatever and they happen to both have a crush on the other, they start dating etc. The issue in my mind is when you skip over the friendship part altogether. At least if your friends first you'll have some small idea of how likely it is for a relationship to work out. And if you decide you wouldn't work well together you don't risk the breakup and potential loss of a friend afterwards.

[AnikaK]

I think that comes down to the quality of the relationship. if its high quality friendship will be cultivated. and of not time to break up i think the problem is many people are not interested in being friends-which is why they dont wait in the first place. so if those people waited itd just be more of the same. you can also be 'friends' and not really know or care of each other. two shallow people being friends first will not be better off than two mature people dating while cultivating friendship.

I agree friendship is key to any relationship i'm not sure the sequence is so important. i dont have enough experience yet :)

[EpicDweeb]

Fair enough :) You make many very reasonable points, and to be honest I never really thought about those. But I whole heartedly agree. I guess it's the kind of thing where without friendship in some form I see it as pointless, but some see it as the main point.

[Jemini_Crocket]

1. Friendzone is not real.
2. They usually don't but if they do clearly reject you it's because they simply don't find you attractive.
Also, just because you think you're nice doesn't mean that you are. Plus if you are nice, you're still not entitled to anything.

Now get me the downvotes.

[EpicDweeb]

I would say that the friend zone is real and not real, and that, for the most part it depends on the individual. Plenty of people think because they're friends with a person, that they can't or shouldn't have feelings for them. They see them as being in their friend zone. I'm glad you don't think it's real. It means you have a better perspective on it than a lot of people. But just recognize that it's the kind of thing that, if believed in, does hold some small amount of power over people.

[Anonymous]

There is a lot of misconception on this site as to what the friendzone is, or what it meant.

It doesn't mean unrequited love.
It doesn't mean when a guy (or girl) gets feelings for a friend.
It doesn't mean when a loser guy is "inserting coins" of niceness and hoping for a romantic payout like she's some sort of slot machine.

Read this :
www.theonion.com/.../but-if-we-started-dating-it-would-ruin-our-friends-11473

It's when a girl knows a guy has feelings for her, and she cynically uses him and manipulates him with those feelings.

[EpicDweeb]

I need to confirm real quick whether or not you know what the onion is...

[Opinion Owner]

It's a satirical online news website. But that's not the point. The comedic piece illustrates exactly to a T what the friendzone is. The humour is that any girl would be honest about what she's doing...

[EpicDweeb]

lol fair enough xD

[nalaa]

I totally agree that dating is easier and better if you were friends first, but that's not always possible. And if you ARE interested in someone, why pretend otherwise.

But like I said I agree, being friends first is easy, less pressure, fewer expectations. I've been on dates with guys who were perfectly nice and interesting even but I wasn't quite feeling comfortable enough to be intimate with them. I wish I could have gotten to know them in an environment in which kissing isn't necessarily expected by the second or third time of meeting

[JohnDoe3000]

"And if you ARE interested in someone, why pretend otherwise."

IF... often it takes getting to know each other in a friendly setting to know if you are interested. Like I might find a new single girl I meet not completely repulsive and for some reason we get talking, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to ask her out immediately. I hate how that is often portrayed as faking friendship to get in her pants, that if I don't immediately ask her out I deserve for her to lose interest and see me as an asexual object from then on, and that I'd be a monster who never cared for her as a person if I decide to not have a friendship if she rejects me or I decide I don't like her that much after all.

[GeorgeDubyaKUSH]

@naiaa Whenever I start dating a girl and there seems to be a connection there, after the second or third date, sometime during the weekend, I will cal her (call, not text) and strike up a conversation with her. She will inevitably ask why I'm calling, and I'll just say that I wasn't doing anything in particular and wanted to talk to her. If everything goes as planned, we'll end up talking for a few to several hours. Then I'll call the next day, and we'll talk for hours then. I'll give it a couple days without calling, then depending on how busy I am I will call her again, and depending on how busy she is she will talk to me, and after a couple hours I'll ask her out on another date. The next day I'll call again and we'll talk for several hours. I call her day after day, talking for hours at a time each day/night, and sometime during this we'll end up having phone sex. By that point, we will usually have gradually ended up being officially in a relationship together.

[GeorgeDubyaKUSH]

@naiaa My point in all this is: if you want to get to know a guy in an environment where you don't have to kiss, just call them on the telephone (don't text, call). If you do this, something real and even intense might develop without you having ever kissed. And you'll certainly get to know them better.

[Anonymous]

that's totally how i see it, usually i fall in love with guys i at least know well or with whom i am friends with, i think it' so awkward just to date someone because you like how he/she looks and you think he/she is nice...
i definitely wanna marry my best friend but somehow i am not sure if there is actually place in this world for this, i am not sure if people want that intimacy and if it gets complicated you are just a few swipes away from another hot looking girl...

[EpicDweeb]

I fear you may well be correct, even so I appreciate the comment :)

[BackAgain]

I friend zone pretty much every guy by default because I'm not ready to date. Most stop trying to text or talk to me within a month or so 😅

A very small few actually did want to get to know me but not the ones I'd be interested in dating. I found out that we incompatible after all and I was glad i didn't waste myself getting physical caz then I'd get attached and feel hurt when things didn't work out

[Anonymous]

It's a real place unfortunately, and I can say this from my personal experience, I'm a virgin in my late 30s, never had a kiss, never been in a relationship, only unrequited love, only friendzone.
I know I'm not entitled to have anything from the girls I loved (and I still love one very special girl). I don't deserve anything from them because I'm obviously ugly, I lack self-confidence, and I'm too shy.
But I'll always be a loyal friend to all of them, because I care about their happiness, regardless of my bad luck.

[EpicDweeb]

I'm glad to hear you do your best to be a good friend. The thing is, there's a difference between being a friend who is not seen as a potential romantic interest... and being in the friend zone. You aren't in the friend zone simply because you are friends with girls and they don't wish to be anything more than friends. The "friend zone" is the concept that once you are labeled as a "friend" you have no hope of being anything more than that.

[JohnDoe3000]

"Let me make this brief... guys, if a girl wants you to be their friend, just be their friend. It doesn't matter if you won't be in a relationship with them."

Why? She's not entitled to friendship and the guy has to think about his own wellbeing first. If he has feelings for her it's better to not be friends because it makes it that much harder to get over her.

[JohnDoe3000]

This also is problematic for your point that a guy who sticks around as a friend likes her for who she is because a smart guy wouldn't stick around if he found her attractive. So the guy that sticks around may like her for who she is, but is probably not attracted to her.

[EpicDweeb]

Why wouldn't a smart guy stick around? What does he have to lose from being around a girl he likes?

[JohnDoe3000]

How about seeing her with other guys and/or hear her talking about how wonderful some other guy is. Why would he put himself through that?

[EpicDweeb]

Because if he truly loves her and wants what's best for her, knowing that she's happy makes him happy. At least that's how it always went for me. I had my girlfriend break up with me largely because she realized she liked another guy more than me. I didn't get upset about it, I was just happy for her. To this day she's still one of my best friends.

[JohnDoe3000]

You need to think more about your own needs, just like your ex-girlfriend apparently did. If it hurts to see her with someone else then you have a right to stop seeing her: she's not entitled to your friendship or support.

[EpicDweeb]

That's my whole point... it DOESN'T hurt to see her with someone else, because I love her to the point where her being happy makes me happy. I'm not miserable because I can't have her, I'm happy because she's with someone better than me. Sure it's an antiquated perspective, but it's served me well, and as of so far, I've lived a much happier life than most because of it.

[BrittBratt2416]

The friend zone in my opinion is real, it's when a man or woman you know to some degree rejects you but still puts you I'm the friends category. You are now in their circle of friends that they will speak with but not date. However, you can CHOOSE to stay within the friend zone and just be their friend or you can walk away from the friend zone altogether and cut contact. The decision is left up to the man or woman.

[Anonymous]

Um I don't really like giving up control like that. You know letting a girl know that you like them and they reject your tends to give them the upper hand. And plus besides, I find it an absolute insult to try becoming friends with me after you reject me. I'm not saying that they are entitled to be in a relationship with me, I choose who I want to be friends with very carefully and who I approach to be a future spouse even more so. But to reject someone, but expect them to accept you as your friends is kind of like giving them false hope. I mean I remember this one time I got rejected by a girl who lied about liking me for 3 months and still had to nerve to suggest being friends after I found out. So yeah that,"If you have the option of making a friend, don't reject it simply because you can't be anything more." Kinda triggered me hard. But everything else was fairly reasonable.

[manmore]

White knighting won't get you girls, boyo. This attempt was pathetic.

[Z-Spark]

i agree, if anyone does what he says they will never get girls

[EpicDweeb]

This mytake was strictly for the purpose of telling girls how to avoid guys who would simply use them for sex or who simply like them for their body... so... basically the two of you? Sorry, that's just the impression I'm getting from you.

[manmore]

Why not write a mytake about women and how they manipulate guys? Women are not any better than men, but you choose to write a mytake that defends women and demonizes men. What a white knight!

[EpicDweeb]

I didn't demonize men... I made clear that if you want to avoid a certain type of guy, this is a good way to do it.

[Z-Spark]

@Mytake owner, yeah so whats your point? i want to have sex with some girls? Why does it bother you? iam not even hiding this

[EpicDweeb]

@Z-Spark I never said it did... but there are girls it bothers. If they don't want a guy who will use them for sex this is a way to get rid of that type of guy. If they don't care they won't make you feel like you're in the friend zone. I'm not sure why you're upset. Is it because you want girls to simply accept that you want to have sex and you think by me posting this the behavior of most girls will change so that you can't simply have sex with them? I really don't understand what it you're upset about xD

[Anonymous]

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[Z-Spark]

"Entitled jerks" as you put it are the guys who sleep with the girl you're dreaming about marrying while you watch from afar, girls have no use for a feminine guy, they love entitled jerks, they love a man to lead and be sexual.

and who the heck said i want to date every girl i meet? i maybe want to date 5% of all girls i know the rest will not get more than sex from me , be their bestfriend? are you serious? you're take should be titled : how to not get women

[EpicDweeb]

I'm sorry to tell you this... but I think close to the entirety of the internet would tag you as one of the entitled jerks and would beg to disagree whole heartedly.

[Z-Spark]

beg to disagree? lol why do you think disagreeing will change facts

[EpicDweeb]

People often have reasons for disagreeing. You've stated an opinion perhaps based on your experience... that does not make it valid or accurate.

[Z-Spark]

you have a point iam not gonna argue with that, and in all honesty sometimes friendship turns into a great relationship , however most of the time that is not the case and the guy is just following the girl like her puppy.

me and a lot of the guys i know and they get laid a lot probably will never understand exactly how women function but one thing we know is that your approach is wrong, you will experience it for yourself in the future.

[EpicDweeb]

I've had most of my friends (who are girls) express interest in me, in terms of a relationship. Usually it goes no further than a crush, but that's largely due to the fact that I don't want to be in a relationship at the moment. Beyond that, I'm not concerned with getting laid. I don't want to, at least not until I'm with someone I really care about and who cares about me. I know that, if I wanted to, I could get laid pretty easily. But I don't want to. It would just feel meaningless to me, and would probably make me feel kind of miserable =/ If your desire is to get laid, that's your business. That's not what I want. I know that my approach is wrong, at least if I were to have any desire to get laid... but since I don't, I'm pretty content with just being the best friend I can.

[Z-Spark]

in that case sure thats a good approach if you dont want to get laid , as for your female friends iam gonna be honest the reason they want you is because you have the looks not because you're nice to them, ask them and you will see.

[404filenotfound]

Thankfully I'm out of the dating game. I never enjoyed playing games with people's emotions anyway

[jacquesvol]

Any girl I don't intend to fuck and dump or marry goes automatically in my friend zone.