Oh. . . well, I can understand preferences. But this whole thing of proclaiming that the members of your culture are undesirable. Who does that? Why wouldn't you just keep your preferences to yourself and date that group?
Studies have shown that the majority of people stick to their own. So nobody has to worry. Black women will have their men... just as any other race will.
Or, it could just be that white women are better. I've seen black women on TV, they all treat their husbands disrespectfully, I don't blame black men for only fancy in white girls, the problem is, if a black man steals my girl I'll have to marry some horrible black woman.
Between 2009 and 2010, black women earned 68 per cent of associate's degrees, 66 per cent of bachelor's degrees, 71 per cent of master's degrees and 65 per cent of all doctorate degrees awarded to black students.
The percentage of black students attending college has increased from 10 per cent to 15 per cent from 1976 to 2012, while the percentage of white students fell from 84 to 60 per cent.
By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).
im a black guy. I've dated 1 white girl and one black girl. i current have a huge crush on a white girl. girls are girls and if they are attractive then i like them. I've liked at least one girl from every race
Nothing is wrong with being attracted to women from a variety of cultures. But when you do not wish to date a woman from your own community, that's a sign of a problem. . . I think.
And there is certainly nothing wrong with having a crush on a "White" woman. I have had a few of those.
It is only something "Black" men have been subjected to for centuries. In America, pretty much most non-"White" people struggle with self-hatred. Because most view their cultures through a lens of negativity. I became acutely aware of my own issues, while studying the effect among American Indians.
If you can get a hold of a TV show call Bush mechanics you will be able to get inside the heads of the Australian aborigines, very interesting people, unique, highly sophisticated cultures. Also nothing like you guys, many of them are completely wild, besides the negative affects of a western diet and booze, they have retained their language and culture. I only cop shit, from half cast, part white, part aboriginal.
But this is an "American" phenomenon. Isn't it amazing that despite all African-American have accomplished, we still have deep issues with our self-esteem and confidence in the context of our culture? Africans and Aborgines can be ridiculed as backwards, savage, and uncivilized by the rest of the world yet they give absolutely no f@cks at all.
I was not ridiculing them, I'm rustic and wild too, that why I get along with them. But when they have hangups I don't blame them, you should try and help them, and if it seems to be an issue between the sexes, a strong woman should give it a try at educating him, but some people should be left alone, just let them be themselves they may solve some of their own problems.
Hey I think we got wires crossed, and totally confused, I was not judging you nore any other black person, but in Australia indigenous people have suffered a lot, the hang ups you have talked about in your my take I have never heard before. We have many people of African decent in Oz, they won't have the issues that you guys have suffered, because they have migrated here post civil rights movement. Like many Australians they came here for more opportunities. All I was saying is that if you learn a little bit about the Australian aborigines, you will learn more about how tribal /indigenous cultures have survived post the Imperial expansion of the European powers, and the industrial revolution. I'm not American so what happens up there is all new to me.
Dude, why did you even post me? Nothing you post has anything to do with the topic or this conversation. You hit me with your baggage about aborigines. I tell you I can't judge you. Then you tell me that you are not judging me.
What?
This take is about the "African-American" who feel the need to proclaim their dating preferences which are exclusively non "Black" women.
I cannot speak to indigenous cultures. I cannot speak to the Aborigine experience. I created this take to represent my own.
If you wish to talk about Aborigine culture. Great. But please create your own "take", I will participate and I will try to learn.
No, I can't say that at all. And I don't have a proper cultural perspective to talk about it either. But I must say I have never seen or heard a "White" male talk about "White" women in negative terms. I have heard vice versa however. I have heard Asian-American women talk about Asian-American men negatively.
Getting married does not detract from a person's history or culture. I live in an area with a high concentration of interracial couples. The black fathers always share their culture and history with their children (when they are involved).
Aren't you the person who said "Black" people were among the most ignorant, violent, backwards, etc. people you have ever met?
I just don't get where you are coming from. Are the only "Black" men acceptable to you. . . the ones who claim that "Black" women are ugly and undateable?
I love black men and women who choose to do better than our ancestors. Hating is not a part of that. I don't see hate in that equation. My best friend since before birth, we call each other wombie, is an incredibly beautiful and wonderful black woman. One of the most beautiful women and mothers I know. I've known a number of wonderful, beautiful black women. So, no, you've got me wrong, hon.
@wolfcat87 You are the confused person I have met. Most people can have a stable normal view of a situation. You change your views depending upon the argument you are trying to make at the time you are making it.
I don't.
So don't pretend to tell me about "Black" women who are wonderful and this and that.
And please stop trying tell me you identify with "Black" culture. You don't even know what it is.
Wow... Yeah, I can't have a rational conversation with you. My view has not changed at all in this conversation. You just can't seem to wrap your mind around the fact that my view isn't in any box that you seem to think it should fit in. XD Your inability to comprehend my thought process does not make it less valid. It just means you lack the ability to comprehend it. Leave it at that. Don't hurt yourself. No need to get upset. Just accept that you have limitations. Not everyone is goign to agree with your views on blackness, and not everyone who does not agree is a self hating black or a racist. There's a whole world of other views outside of those two. It's juts sad that you'll never be able to understand any of them. Too stuck in your own misery.
@wolfcat87 Of course it is invalid. I don't think of the "Black" people in my life who are educated, smart, successful, and brilliant as exceptions in "Black" culture, they are the epitome of "Black" culture. And you can't have a rational conversation, because you are not rational. Indeed, you have to create gigantic leaps in logic to come to the conclusion that "Black" culture is just a bunch of negative beliefs/behaviors.
I comprehend racism just fine. Why do you people who embrace nutty racist beliefs always think you are misunderstood. We get it, you think "Black" culture is worse than other cultures. And that is the sum total of who you are.
As for me being stuck. . . aren't you the one on my "take"? Do I ever seek you out, to sample more of your misguided confused zealotry?
Nope.
I will live and die happy if you do not post me ever again in life.
I comprehend racism just fine. Why do you people who embrace nutty racist beliefs always think you are misunderstood. We get it, you think "Black" culture is worse than other cultures. And that is the sum total of who you are.
Well, I’m going to ignore the plenty of studies that validated that theory (which you can find most on YouTube). I could give you the long form and using the fact that I grew up in said scenario, but I’m lazy and not... maybe later. Ps, I’m not not attracted to black chicks
Hey, you can believe your studies. I will believe mine.
Growing up in an all "White" family doesn't mean much. That "Black" person might have no sense of an identity. But it isn't necessarily true that he/she will hate their culture.
And on the flip side, there is me.
I grew up with a "Black" mother, "Black" father, and a sea of "Black" people for as far as the eye could see.
I didn't learn to have respect and love for my cultural experience until I was 30 years old.
"White" and "Black" are always in quotes when talking about groups of people. We don't look anything like the colors white or black. And race almost always means culture, even when the people using the terms don't realize that's how they are using them.
"Historical research has shown that the idea of "race" has always carried more meanings than mere physical differences; "
I honestly never noticed... or more likely forgot considering how much I dick around on here and stopped paying attention and haven’t been on that much recently
Also, I honestly don’t give a shit about the race argument thing.
Or maybe it's just that black women far too often act like they have a chip on their shoulder and act openly hostile to just about everyone around them. Yea, maybe that it's and not your novel of a post. Just saved everyone 15 minutes of their life.
I can't get over how silly your novel of a post is. You take personal offense to black men who won't date black women. Whoopty doo. That's their choice. You were even dumb enough to try to blame slavery at one point. I almost pissed my pants laughing.
I exceed the intellect necessary to address your grade school level post. In fact, I probably last IQ points from the stupidity. You haven't warned anyone to do anything. You've aired a personal grievance on the internet and tried to justify it with things that happened in the past to no one who is even alive today to remember it. You're actually making a personal grievance against other people's personal grievances. That's ironically hypocritical. I, on the other hand, saved people precious minutes of their lives.
I addressed your entire take in just one sentence. "You have a personal grievance with black men who won't date black women." Boom, done. But, your personal demons don't mean a thing. That's for you to get over on your own.
How many of them, create a mytake? A blog? Go out in public to claim how inferior from the standpoint of attractiveness, sexuality, etc. . ."Black" men are?
You see, here is the difference. I will tell you. And CherryPhi a "White" woman has talked about this.
"Black" women carry our culture. So even if she sees "Black" men as undesirable, most are not going to denigrate our culture or history. And if she has a son, he will never know if she believes "Black" men are ugly and substandard when compared to other groups.
"Black" men who date out of the community exclusively, do not carry culture with them. They are usually trying to wash themselves clean of "Black" cultural influences and trying to adopt a new identity or trying to live without one. That's why breakups with them are really volatile.
Whatever the reasons maybe Two Wrongs don't make a right - In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
Whatever the reasons maybe - "Two Wrongs don't make a right". In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
#3 Whatever the reasons maybe - "Two Wrongs don't make a right". In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
No, you are making two things equivalent that are not equivalent. There are no threads here created by a "Black" woman saying that "Black" men are not physically attractive.
The reason why they choose to "reject" does not matter. Just know that a mass number of black women also reject the black men. The reason doesn't matter. The reason doesn't matter. The reason doesn't matter.
It is not that "Black" men or "Black" women would not be able to see the other as physically attractive or exhibiting negative behaviors. That is going to happen.
We are in America for goodness sakes.
We don't have many images where we are seen as being desirable.
The issue is that you should not be voicing this opinion for the purposes of making the opposite sex feel bad. If you have your issues, deal with them and do your thing. We don't need to know why, or how bad "Black" women treated you or how unattractive you think they look.
Most "Black" women can do that, many "Black" men don't seem to get that message.
No, you are not attacking anything. You can't convince people to like their culture. Non-"Whites" in America have to deal with this issue. We all are in some phase of self-hatred. Very few of us have total pride in our respective cultures.
This conversation, you are simply not open to. Yet in other cultures they talk about it openly and freely.
"You can't be an American Indian, unless you went through a time in your life when you did not want to be an American Indian."
If your going to finger point then make sure you get it all. If not a one sided view will be displayed. If you don't understand that then I'm sorry We are on two totally different wave lengths.
Yeah, I actually thought about this as well, but as @RolandCuthbert pointed out I definitely haven't seen any posts about "This is why I never date black guys even though I'm black" or something like that. In fact, no matter what race a person is... the ones I notice often are either black guys talking about refusing to date within their race OR people in general saying negative things about black women and on occasion people basically asking if there is something wrong with them that they do like black women.
@VonDamme My answer won't change. "The reasons why don't matter". We all 3 know that it's happening across the board with black men and black women. Both strongly seeking to date out side of their race. I'm sure each and every single solitary one of them have their own reasons why as well. Not only that but it's becoming progressively worse with each new generation. It is a "black" problem. Not a black man problem. Not a black woman problem. A Black Problem. A black problem. A black problem - #ChicagoBulls_3peat
Meh, I think self hatred is an issue, yes. Dating inter-racially? Not an issue (not saying anyone said it was). REFUSING under ANY circumstances to date your own race? That's insanity to me. Stems back to the larger issue of internalized racism. Which, yes, is an all of us issue.
Look I get your point, and it's great you want us all to work on it, but part of working on it is to stop shouting about it and work on your own issues. So, apparently this discussion has implied that we the women aren't screaming about the races we're dating, and the men are? I mean it affects us both if one complains about the other anyway you know.
You're pointing out a larger issue, but we're talking about a specific aspect. There's nothing wrong with that.
@VonDamme I'm not here to point fingers. I'f I wanted to point fingers then I could do so easily. One of the most commonly repeated posts on this "girlsaskguys" site would be? Take a wild guess.. As a matter of fact I'll help you out. It goes something like this - "Do white guys like black girls". "Are white guys attracted to black girls". "Why don't white guys like black girls". "White guys would you date a black girl". Constantly over and over again. More than any other race combined you see black girls asking to be with white guys. But I'm not here to point fingers. I'm only here to make sure that everything is weighed and calculated properly.
dont play fking stupid, you know what i mean.. people care when black women are treated unfairly in the dating world. but literally no one cares about Indian men. so i believe no one should care if black women are the least desired or whatever
New research from Yale University suggests that highly educated black women are twice as likely to have never been married by the age of 45 as white women with similar education.
"after all we have been through that we have any self-love at all." Because you can blame everyone else for your issues rather than facing them yourself. There are plenty of successful people that laugh when someone tells them being black is hard or that they're oppressed. There is a good reason for it too.
@Nexovous "Because you can blame everyone else for your issues rather than facing them yourself.".. No we just point out how the system is.. If you can't take the truth, continue to ignore it.. LOL..
@JDavid25 Actually, it wasn't even about that. To crazy racist fruitcake supremacist freaks, everything needs to be about them. Even a conversation about "Black" self-hatred. So sometimes you have to just cut them out of the conversation, so you can talk about something of substance.
WHY can't we ever just talk about a segment or group? Why does it always gave to be everyone? If the subject is Blacks someone shows up and says "No, everyone!" as of that helps anyone. It is outright ignorant.
I don't want to hear "humanity has problems!" when talking about a group and their problems. In what universe does equalizing everything solve anything? And it derails the while conversation.
The same people who say #alllivesmatter don't know a damped thing about improving conditions for minorities and by saying that shit get a ticket out of social jail for it.
I'll reiterate: BLACK people are fucked up. Solving black problems is not a matter of extrapolation and discrediting them by saying "and so is everyone else!"
Of course things have moved in 40 years. 40 years ago, we didn't have a "Black" president. A movie called "Black Panther" could not have been made. "Black" women are among the most educated grouping in the United States.
The issue is not really one of solving problems. This "Take" if anything, is about how some problems are probably never going to be solved.
"Black" self-hatred is apart of being "Black".
Indeed, in America, it is apart of every non-"White" experience at some level.
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Yeah I don't understand it.
You don't understand hating yourself or your culture?
Dating certain races.
Oh. . . well, I can understand preferences. But this whole thing of proclaiming that the members of your culture are undesirable. Who does that? Why wouldn't you just keep your preferences to yourself and date that group?
I don't even get preferences. I have none. I've had sex with oriental girls, black girls, white girls, mixed girls, and Latin girls.
Hey, I have no hate for what you do. Good job!
Studies have shown that the majority of people stick to their own. So nobody has to worry. Black women will have their men... just as any other race will.
You have no studies supporting that. What did studies say about the toys "Black" kids played with through the 70s and 80s?
Or, it could just be that white women are better. I've seen black women on TV, they all treat their husbands disrespectfully, I don't blame black men for only fancy in white girls, the problem is, if a black man steals my girl I'll have to marry some horrible black woman.
Really? You have seen "Black" women on the picture box?
I guess that statement kind of says it all.
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Between 2009 and 2010, black women earned 68 per cent of associate's degrees, 66 per cent of bachelor's degrees, 71 per cent of master's degrees and 65 per cent of all doctorate degrees awarded to black students.
The percentage of black students attending college has increased from 10 per cent to 15 per cent from 1976 to 2012, while the percentage of white students fell from 84 to 60 per cent.
By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).
I'm not sure refusing to date black women is a red flag, because a lot of people refuse to date black women.
Uhm, if you are a black man and you think you need to proclaim to the world why you don't date "Black" women you have some issues.
And again, non-"Black" women should leave you standing like Wile E. Coyote.
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It's a red flag if you're black and don't love or desire your own kind at all.
im a black guy. I've dated 1 white girl and one black girl. i current have a huge crush on a white girl. girls are girls and if they are attractive then i like them. I've liked at least one girl from every race
Nothing is wrong with being attracted to women from a variety of cultures. But when you do not wish to date a woman from your own community, that's a sign of a problem. . . I think.
And there is certainly nothing wrong with having a crush on a "White" woman. I have had a few of those.
I did not even read all the crap. I just smell a race baited.
Yeah, it isn't race baiting to say "Black" women are not attractive and/or that I don't date them. . . even though I was raised and loved by them.
It's hard to understand, not being American, the mentality seems to hard to believe.
It is only something "Black" men have been subjected to for centuries. In America, pretty much most non-"White" people struggle with self-hatred. Because most view their cultures through a lens of negativity. I became acutely aware of my own issues, while studying the effect among American Indians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIVNeafcTaM
If you can get a hold of a TV show call Bush mechanics you will be able to get inside the heads of the Australian aborigines, very interesting people, unique, highly sophisticated cultures. Also nothing like you guys, many of them are completely wild, besides the negative affects of a western diet and booze, they have retained their language and culture. I only cop shit, from half cast, part white, part aboriginal.
But this is an "American" phenomenon. Isn't it amazing that despite all African-American have accomplished, we still have deep issues with our self-esteem and confidence in the context of our culture? Africans and Aborgines can be ridiculed as backwards, savage, and uncivilized by the rest of the world yet they give absolutely no f@cks at all.
I was not ridiculing them, I'm rustic and wild too, that why I get along with them. But when they have hangups I don't blame them, you should try and help them, and if it seems to be an issue between the sexes, a strong woman should give it a try at educating him, but some people should be left alone, just let them be themselves they may solve some of their own problems.
My goodness people at GaG have serious baggage. I never said you were ridiculing them. Why can't you just read what I posted?
Then you went off on some tangent that I don't even understand.
I was just saying that these people are at peace with themselves. Oh well, whatever.
I'm being affirmative too, chill out. I just saying cause I was not 100% what you meant.
You are telling me chill out when you just slapped me with your considerable baggage.
I am not an aborigine. I cannot judge you.
Hey I think we got wires crossed, and totally confused, I was not judging you nore any other black person, but in Australia indigenous people have suffered a lot, the hang ups you have talked about in your my take I have never heard before. We have many people of African decent in Oz, they won't have the issues that you guys have suffered, because they have migrated here post civil rights movement. Like many Australians they came here for more opportunities. All I was saying is that if you learn a little bit about the Australian aborigines, you will learn more about how tribal /indigenous cultures have survived post the Imperial expansion of the European powers, and the industrial revolution. I'm not American so what happens up there is all new to me.
Dude, why did you even post me? Nothing you post has anything to do with the topic or this conversation. You hit me with your baggage about aborigines. I tell you I can't judge you. Then you tell me that you are not judging me.
What?
This take is about the "African-American" who feel the need to proclaim their dating preferences which are exclusively non "Black" women.
I cannot speak to indigenous cultures. I cannot speak to the Aborigine experience. I created this take to represent my own.
If you wish to talk about Aborigine culture. Great. But please create your own "take", I will participate and I will try to learn.
Very well written, good take
Thanks!
interesting and very well articulated
Thank you sir!
do you think the same inherit premise applies to white men and Asian women?
No, I can't say that at all. And I don't have a proper cultural perspective to talk about it either. But I must say I have never seen or heard a "White" male talk about "White" women in negative terms. I have heard vice versa however. I have heard Asian-American women talk about Asian-American men negatively.
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Most black women are stronger than most black men. I think that is the biggest reason behind this.
I don't think that's it. I think the cultural burden falls heaviest on "Black" women. They feel a sense of responsibility stronger.
"Black" men will go off and marry a non-"Black" woman and become a person without a history or culture.
Getting married does not detract from a person's history or culture. I live in an area with a high concentration of interracial couples. The black fathers always share their culture and history with their children (when they are involved).
@wolfcat87 Again what?
Aren't you the person who said "Black" people were among the most ignorant, violent, backwards, etc. people you have ever met?
I just don't get where you are coming from. Are the only "Black" men acceptable to you. . . the ones who claim that "Black" women are ugly and undateable?
I love black men and women who choose to do better than our ancestors. Hating is not a part of that. I don't see hate in that equation. My best friend since before birth, we call each other wombie, is an incredibly beautiful and wonderful black woman. One of the most beautiful women and mothers I know. I've known a number of wonderful, beautiful black women. So, no, you've got me wrong, hon.
@wolfcat87 You are the confused person I have met. Most people can have a stable normal view of a situation. You change your views depending upon the argument you are trying to make at the time you are making it.
I don't.
So don't pretend to tell me about "Black" women who are wonderful and this and that.
And please stop trying tell me you identify with "Black" culture. You don't even know what it is.
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Wow... Yeah, I can't have a rational conversation with you. My view has not changed at all in this conversation. You just can't seem to wrap your mind around the fact that my view isn't in any box that you seem to think it should fit in. XD Your inability to comprehend my thought process does not make it less valid. It just means you lack the ability to comprehend it. Leave it at that. Don't hurt yourself. No need to get upset. Just accept that you have limitations. Not everyone is goign to agree with your views on blackness, and not everyone who does not agree is a self hating black or a racist. There's a whole world of other views outside of those two. It's juts sad that you'll never be able to understand any of them. Too stuck in your own misery.
@wolfcat87 Of course it is invalid. I don't think of the "Black" people in my life who are educated, smart, successful, and brilliant as exceptions in "Black" culture, they are the epitome of "Black" culture. And you can't have a rational conversation, because you are not rational. Indeed, you have to create gigantic leaps in logic to come to the conclusion that "Black" culture is just a bunch of negative beliefs/behaviors.
I comprehend racism just fine. Why do you people who embrace nutty racist beliefs always think you are misunderstood. We get it, you think "Black" culture is worse than other cultures. And that is the sum total of who you are.
As for me being stuck. . . aren't you the one on my "take"? Do I ever seek you out, to sample more of your misguided confused zealotry?
Nope.
I will live and die happy if you do not post me ever again in life.
What do you mean by "you people"?
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What do you mean by you people?
I comprehend racism just fine. Why do you people who embrace nutty racist beliefs always think you are misunderstood. We get it, you think "Black" culture is worse than other cultures. And that is the sum total of who you are.
Yes, that is what I posted.
So when I said "you people" who do you think I mean?
That's my question back to you.
You forgot the most obvious 1
And what would that be sir.
They grew up around mostly white people
Nah. I haven't found that to be true. Obama grew up around mostly "White" people. I can think of quite a few folks who did.
Growing up in a all "Black" family, in an all "Black" community does not guarantee you won't have absolute hatred for your skin color or your culture.
It takes an effort by those around you to explain that your culture. . . or better yet, the culture you will be assigned. . . isn't a bad thing.
Well, I’m going to ignore the plenty of studies that validated that theory (which you can find most on YouTube). I could give you the long form and using the fact that I grew up in said scenario, but I’m lazy and not... maybe later. Ps, I’m not not attracted to black chicks
Hey, you can believe your studies. I will believe mine.
Growing up in an all "White" family doesn't mean much. That "Black" person might have no sense of an identity. But it isn't necessarily true that he/she will hate their culture.
And on the flip side, there is me.
I grew up with a "Black" mother, "Black" father, and a sea of "Black" people for as far as the eye could see.
I didn't learn to have respect and love for my cultural experience until I was 30 years old.
And I married a "Black" woman before that.
I mean like scientific studies... not me. I’m not wasting my time with that ish
Also, community, not family...
Also, “why” did you “keep” putting “black” in “quotes”?”
Because I don't believe in race.
I thought that was obvious.
And its interesting. You have only seen the word "Black" in quotes. . . but never the word "White".
It was when you used “Black” 3 times in 1 sentence of a 2 sentence paragraph... kinda hard to miss at that point
You have known me a for a while.
"White" and "Black" are always in quotes when talking about groups of people. We don't look anything like the colors white or black. And race almost always means culture, even when the people using the terms don't realize that's how they are using them.
"Historical research has shown that the idea of "race" has always carried more meanings than mere physical differences; "
I honestly never noticed... or more likely forgot considering how much I dick around on here and stopped paying attention and haven’t been on that much recently
Also, I honestly don’t give a shit about the race argument thing.
In light of your revelation about how much you care about these topics, I will make sure to give your comments proper consideration in my next "take".
Or maybe it's just that black women far too often act like they have a chip on their shoulder and act openly hostile to just about everyone around them. Yea, maybe that it's and not your novel of a post. Just saved everyone 15 minutes of their life.
I can't get over how silly this post is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeLpj8CWwtA&t=57s
I can't get over how silly your novel of a post is. You take personal offense to black men who won't date black women. Whoopty doo. That's their choice. You were even dumb enough to try to blame slavery at one point. I almost pissed my pants laughing.
You are just hilarious. If you don't have the intellect to address what I have posted, you might be better off just trotting off into the distance.
Meanwhile, I have warned all non-"Black" women here about the kind of "Black" men that make the proclamation that they do not date "Black" women.
They need to leave you standing like Wile E. Coyote.
Bye!
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I exceed the intellect necessary to address your grade school level post. In fact, I probably last IQ points from the stupidity. You haven't warned anyone to do anything. You've aired a personal grievance on the internet and tried to justify it with things that happened in the past to no one who is even alive today to remember it. You're actually making a personal grievance against other people's personal grievances. That's ironically hypocritical. I, on the other hand, saved people precious minutes of their lives.
Like you see, what you just posted. That is pure nonsense. It does not address a single thing in the "take". Yet you think you are being smart.
Again, that's hilarious. Your point is the same as this film made 50 years ago. And they were only joking.
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I addressed your entire take in just one sentence. "You have a personal grievance with black men who won't date black women." Boom, done. But, your personal demons don't mean a thing. That's for you to get over on your own.
No, you didn't address anything. You made up a strawman. . .
"maybe it's just that black women far too often act like they have a chip on their shoulder and act openly hostile to just about everyone around them"
You project crazed insane racist stereotypes of "Black" women and then tell us we are the ones with the problem.
It is simply hilarious.
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I didn't make up a straw man. I exposed yours.
Really you trot out a bunch of racist stereotypes listed at any "White" supremacist freakshow website and you exposed me?
LOLx10!!!
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Don't leave out the black women who have also "turned the other cheek" -Those mass amounts of black women who refuse to date their own.
How many of them, create a mytake? A blog? Go out in public to claim how inferior from the standpoint of attractiveness, sexuality, etc. . ."Black" men are?
You see, here is the difference. I will tell you. And CherryPhi a "White" woman has talked about this.
"Black" women carry our culture. So even if she sees "Black" men as undesirable, most are not going to denigrate our culture or history. And if she has a son, he will never know if she believes "Black" men are ugly and substandard when compared to other groups.
"Black" men who date out of the community exclusively, do not carry culture with them. They are usually trying to wash themselves clean of "Black" cultural influences and trying to adopt a new identity or trying to live without one. That's why breakups with them are really volatile.
Whatever the reasons maybe Two Wrongs don't make a right - In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
That word salad you just spit out does not constitute a rational thought.
We only ask that black men who dislike "Black" women, do their thing and shut up about it.
Whatever the reasons maybe - "Two Wrongs don't make a right". In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
Sorry I know it was a repeat. But it actually deserves a 3peat "Chicago Bulls style".
#3 Whatever the reasons maybe - "Two Wrongs don't make a right". In fact they make two wrongs. I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period.
No, you are making two things equivalent that are not equivalent. There are no threads here created by a "Black" woman saying that "Black" men are not physically attractive.
The reason why they choose to "reject" does not matter. Just know that a mass number of black women also reject the black men. The reason doesn't matter. The reason doesn't matter. The reason doesn't matter.
It is unhealthy for the black race for both men and women to reject each other on a mass scale. The reasons why Don't Matter.
It is not that "Black" men or "Black" women would not be able to see the other as physically attractive or exhibiting negative behaviors. That is going to happen.
We are in America for goodness sakes.
We don't have many images where we are seen as being desirable.
The issue is that you should not be voicing this opinion for the purposes of making the opposite sex feel bad. If you have your issues, deal with them and do your thing. We don't need to know why, or how bad "Black" women treated you or how unattractive you think they look.
Most "Black" women can do that, many "Black" men don't seem to get that message.
Unlike you I make sure to attack the full cancer and not half - "I refuse to make any excuses for the black men or the black women. Period".
No, you are not attacking anything. You can't convince people to like their culture. Non-"Whites" in America have to deal with this issue. We all are in some phase of self-hatred. Very few of us have total pride in our respective cultures.
This conversation, you are simply not open to. Yet in other cultures they talk about it openly and freely.
"You can't be an American Indian, unless you went through a time in your life when you did not want to be an American Indian."
Sherman Alexie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=km4Ws-FtbEk
If your going to finger point then make sure you get it all. If not a one sided view will be displayed. If you don't understand that then I'm sorry We are on two totally different wave lengths.
Yeah, I actually thought about this as well, but as @RolandCuthbert pointed out I definitely haven't seen any posts about "This is why I never date black guys even though I'm black" or something like that. In fact, no matter what race a person is... the ones I notice often are either black guys talking about refusing to date within their race OR people in general saying negative things about black women and on occasion people basically asking if there is something wrong with them that they do like black women.
@VonDamme My answer won't change. "The reasons why don't matter". We all 3 know that it's happening across the board with black men and black women. Both strongly seeking to date out side of their race. I'm sure each and every single solitary one of them have their own reasons why as well. Not only that but it's becoming progressively worse with each new generation. It is a "black" problem. Not a black man problem. Not a black woman problem. A Black Problem. A black problem. A black problem - #ChicagoBulls_3peat
@VonDamme He is purposefully avoiding that point.
No I'm addressing the full cancer - Not just one side.
Addressing on side will accomplish nothing. Black men and women have to come together in unity.
Meh, I think self hatred is an issue, yes. Dating inter-racially? Not an issue (not saying anyone said it was). REFUSING under ANY circumstances to date your own race? That's insanity to me. Stems back to the larger issue of internalized racism. Which, yes, is an all of us issue.
@VonDamme Completely Agreed..
Look I get your point, and it's great you want us all to work on it, but part of working on it is to stop shouting about it and work on your own issues. So, apparently this discussion has implied that we the women aren't screaming about the races we're dating, and the men are? I mean it affects us both if one complains about the other anyway you know.
You're pointing out a larger issue, but we're talking about a specific aspect. There's nothing wrong with that.
I think ultimately we're all on the same team :)
@VonDamme I'm not here to point fingers. I'f I wanted to point fingers then I could do so easily. One of the most commonly repeated posts on this "girlsaskguys" site would be? Take a wild guess.. As a matter of fact I'll help you out. It goes something like this - "Do white guys like black girls". "Are white guys attracted to black girls". "Why don't white guys like black girls". "White guys would you date a black girl". Constantly over and over again. More than any other race combined you see black girls asking to be with white guys. But I'm not here to point fingers. I'm only here to make sure that everything is weighed and calculated properly.
And yes, some black men do feel some type of way.
It's 50/50
Nice take
Thank you!
Wow this was amazing and very well thought out
Thanks.
Who fking cares? Indian man have negative stereotypes too, yet no one cares about them...
I am quite sure that Indian men care about negative stereotypes. At the ones who participate here at GaG.
i am fking talking about other than indian men
I guess I don't understand that point. Who cares about stereotypes about "Black" women, other than "Black" women?
No one is stopping Indian men from speaking out. And @Being_a_good_Indian does that often and I participate in his takes and threads.
*"yet no one cares about them"*
Enough Said. Answer is in your opinion. 😊
dont play fking stupid, you know what i mean.. people care when black women are treated unfairly in the dating world. but literally no one cares about Indian men. so i believe no one should care if black women are the least desired or whatever
uhm. . . no. . not many outside of the "Black" community care what is going on with "Black" women. But I am not here saying that should not be so.
And I have no idea about what you are getting at.
http://www.wbur.org/npr/112550626/story.php
New research from Yale University suggests that highly educated black women are twice as likely to have never been married by the age of 45 as white women with similar education.
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Good, it should be that way
So this entire time, you were nothing but a trap.
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ur a fking weirdo
Son, let me give you the three strikes.
1. I created this "Take" and I am having many interesting conversations.
2. You posted me.
3. You are anonymous.
You're out son.
Go grab some bench, fake troll.
I had rum cream today, I might fart loud tomorrow.
Sorry, wrong post.
Make a sound recording.
Black people are fucked up.
Well, I find us rather remarkable. I have always wondered how after all we have been through that we have any self-love at all.
Truthfully most non-"Whites" are in some status of self-hate. Only "White" Americans really see themselves as flawless.
I am not talking about "White" ethnic groupings now. Italians, Irish, French, Germans, etc.
Humankind is messed up
"after all we have been through that we have any self-love at all." Because you can blame everyone else for your issues rather than facing them yourself. There are plenty of successful people that laugh when someone tells them being black is hard or that they're oppressed. There is a good reason for it too.
@Nexovous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngmEeGP0pYE&t=276s
@Nexovous "Because you can blame everyone else for your issues rather than facing them yourself.".. No we just point out how the system is.. If you can't take the truth, continue to ignore it.. LOL..
@JDavid25 Actually, it wasn't even about that. To crazy racist fruitcake supremacist freaks, everything needs to be about them. Even a conversation about "Black" self-hatred. So sometimes you have to just cut them out of the conversation, so you can talk about something of substance.
@I_Do_Mind & #allofgag
WHY can't we ever just talk about a segment or group? Why does it always gave to be everyone? If the subject is Blacks someone shows up and says "No, everyone!" as of that helps anyone. It is outright ignorant.
I don't want to hear "humanity has problems!" when talking about a group and their problems. In what universe does equalizing everything solve anything? And it derails the while conversation.
The same people who say #alllivesmatter don't know a damped thing about improving conditions for minorities and by saying that shit get a ticket out of social jail for it.
I'll reiterate: BLACK people are fucked up. Solving black problems is not a matter of extrapolation and discrediting them by saying "and so is everyone else!"
No wonder nothing has moved in 40 years.
Of course things have moved in 40 years. 40 years ago, we didn't have a "Black" president. A movie called "Black Panther" could not have been made. "Black" women are among the most educated grouping in the United States.
The issue is not really one of solving problems. This "Take" if anything, is about how some problems are probably never going to be solved.
"Black" self-hatred is apart of being "Black".
Indeed, in America, it is apart of every non-"White" experience at some level.
Everyone sucks. The end :(
Black women are loud angry and nasty attitudes. Many are very pretty but even those have mental issues.
And of course "Black" women don't have "nasty" attitudes. It is weird that you can still say that many are pretty.
I don't think I have ever heard of any person saying that before.