The rings are perhaps one of the biggest wastes of money you could ever spend on and the biggest scam perpetuated by the jewelry business. They don't matter about detail or size. They should just be happy with the ring they get. It is about money.
Honestly, I'd rather him not spend the money and instead save it for a future house or a nice vacation, I'd rather have something that'll be useful or build lasting memories than a fancy rock. Get me a $30 dollar sapphire necklace from Walmart and I'll be happy.
It's not so much the size as it is the style. Super large diamonds are tacky at best, and can make me feel like he's trying to buy my love at worst. It should be something more intimate and personal - if she likes emeralds a lot, an emerald ring would be infinitely better than a diamond one. I like dainty designs more, so if my guy got me a big ring I'd almost feel upset that he didn't even bother to take my tastes into account.
I just wish it wasn't so taboo to make the ring purchase together. Choosing a ring together is still just as meaningful as getting a ring that your SO picked out, but you don't have that awkward moment if you actually hate the ring.
Also practicality of the ring is important too. If I work with my hands a lot, a big ring isn't going to work well. I may like the look of a big ring but if just ruin it with the work I do, whats the point?
My ideal girl would love a ring I got her because of it being a symbol of our commitment. I understand it's a natural desire for people to want to impress others which is okay and I understand, but that quality in a partner is technically a flaw. I wouldn't expect her to be perfect though.
This post does not make sense. You say it's not about the money and then compare ring cost to some indulgences ( that I suspect very few men can afford.) You appear to be saying men, if you can afford these things, then you should be to afford a better ring. And if that's the core of the argument, well that is about the money. However you justify it.
If telling you that a $200 ring is fine and that any woman concerned more about the amount spent on the ring than the appreciation behind it then you must have a very low opinion of women.
@Goodwifie LOL, don't worry. I won't let it change my opinion of women. My comment was tongue in cheek. I'm aware materialistic women (and men) exist, but they are not the majority, as evidenced by most of the female responses here.
I wrote it actually due to a conversation on a gaming group I’m in on Facebook, and everything in the Take (minus the research on the rings) came from the men in that group.
A girl met her now fiancé on PS4 and he proposed to her last night. Everyone congratulated her but the guys got into this topic of ring size and cost and were glad he actually took the time to buy her something decent that she’d also like. It want solely about money at all.
So the irony is this Take was inspired by the male gender, not me.
That's cool. But let me ask you something... if you take a step back, can you see why most people took this MyTake as materialistic and thought your priorities might be out of whack?
No because I never gave anyone a price range and provided cheap alternatives. Plus I think if this was written from a male perspective more people would agree with it.
If you read through the responses here, it's pretty difficult to escape the fact that almost everyone saw your take as materialistic. There's a reason for that.
Yes, if a man wrote it, of course it would not be viewed as materialistic. That's because a person who prioritizes giving is generous, while a person who prioritizes receiving is materialistic and entitled.
That doesn't make sense seeing as I based this Take entirely on male responses. It's just the fact that it came from a female that people are pissed lol.
When I proposed to my now wife, I had no engagement ring. We've been together for 8.5 years now and we don't even have rings. Cheapskate? No.
Engagement/wedding rings are nothing but bling for women to show off to their friends to strike envy in the same manner men compare penis sizes. Its original meaning is long lost. Now its just protocol and marketing (much like Christmas). Now why would we waste thousands of dollars when we could use those thousands to start a business that makes money?
They literally aren't, and that's a poor mindset to have to think that buying your wife something nice is a waste of your money. My sister's husband didn't have a ring, either, and he proposed with a life saver's gummy, but you best believe he wanted my sister to have something beautiful. It wasn't because he wanted her to have something to show off. It's because he felt she deserved it. And he's said this multiple times. And he isn't rich, either. She actually makes more money than he does. He's part of the reason I wrote this because he agrees with this Take. Actually, this entire take was based on him, my brother, my dad, and a bunch of men in gamer's group who congratulated a girl gamer on her engagement and her man for getting her a nice ring.
If you want a ring, get a ring. But an overpriced object does not keep a marriage together nor protects it. The problem with society is that they put a dollar value on love and beauty with the mentality of spending more = loves me more. Not only that, when a woman tells her girlfriends she's engaged, why do they immediately want to see the size of the engagement ring? Why does the woman want to show it off on the internet? its because they put more value on how they look to others as a form of validation.
Never said it keeps marriage together but your response is extremely selfish. A lot of things don't keep a marriage together. A BMW won't, yet you see people buy them anyway even when they can't afford. You don't NEED an overpriced car yet there it is. The fact that you don't think your wife deserves says a lot about you and her actually.
I'm not gonna lie here, I care about the ring and how much he spent on it, I want to know how much he cares and values me and yeah I don't want a small whimsy ring with a tiny rock on it. I want the ring to say "yes I love you and value you". Nothing more can be a turn off than a cheap thin meddled ring.
If a hunk of coal that has been compressed and a chunk of metal on your finger define what your marriage means, I feel sorry for you. Clearly objects are much more important to you than human beings.
I'm sick of women thinking they are entitled to expensive things because they have a vagina
I think guys should also realise that the price on the ring doesn't necessarily have to be the price you pay for it. As they are crafted goods, there is an element of leeway that can be taken for haggling the price of a ring down. The key to doing this is to do your research, educate yourself on the elements of a ring and the diamond so that you're better equipped at talking the price down.
Pretty much. Diamonds aren't worth that much anyway so their value is MASSIVELY overpriced. IF it's a diamond, definitely look for the on sale ones lol. Even if you can't afford it right away and have to buy it after you propose, I would recommend anyone do this.
If a gal wants "big", he can always get a 3 c cubic zirconia. But I digress - in our family, my grandparents' and parents' diamonds from their rings were passed down to us and our daughters for the main stones in new rings.
Not ours. But that’s because my family on my dad’s side grew up very poor. That was mostly due to them being black and no one wanting to hire my grandfather. I don’t think my grandmother had a ring with a stone in it for several years and by the time she passed all of my dads siblings, including himself, were married.
@Raven_76 That’s not exactly the same thing. A ring is just a materialistic thing. But a woman who actually wants to be pleasured sexually in a relationship isn’t insecure or shallow for it. Not every vagina is the same. Some girls get the most satisfaction with a bigger penis size because their vaginas were naturally built that way. Another example is how the vaginal canal can naturally be bent forward or backward. Those whose canals are backwards would enjoy “doggy style” sex and would get the most orgasms from that position.
Requiring a big dick is no different than a guy requiring a big ass or tits. It's still shallow. But I expect nothing more from someone like you @Ellie-V , no offense of course. It's just you seem to be that kind of person is all.
@Raven_76 There’s nothing shallow with preferring a penis size simply because not every vagina is going to get satisfaction from just any size. I personally don’t mind big or small, so you don’t really know what you’re talking about... and you’re a Virgin. So, what do you know?
That’s just a shallow thing to do. Like breaking up with a guy because he doesn’t have a 12 inch dick is shallow. Girls are way too sexually selfish these days.
If a girl doesn’t like the size of an engagement ring I bought her she can buy her own, and if anyone else criticized the size... good they don’t have to marry me then.
Every ring I have ever bought a woman has been either sold for 1/10 of the cost that I paid for it or the women lost the rings somewhere. I have spent $1,000's on rings in my lifetime and it has ended up being a big waste of money.
Those rings are so useless and a huge waste of money. Especially for the man. Don't even know why people buy them. The only purpose would be to trade (buy low, sell high).
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The rings are perhaps one of the biggest wastes of money you could ever spend on and the biggest scam perpetuated by the jewelry business. They don't matter about detail or size. They should just be happy with the ring they get. It is about money.
The size of a piece of metal and mineral doesn't equate to how I feel about a woman. you are stupid to think such a thing.
It's pretty ridiculous to think that the size of something is a way of saying I like this woman a lot. Future wives shouldn't be treated like whores.
I actually said what mattered most was the detail but okay.
The rings I listed are considered small. They just have a lot of detail. And they're inexpensive. Sounds like the stupid one here is you.
Honestly, I'd rather him not spend the money and instead save it for a future house or a nice vacation, I'd rather have something that'll be useful or build lasting memories than a fancy rock. Get me a $30 dollar sapphire necklace from Walmart and I'll be happy.
It's not so much the size as it is the style. Super large diamonds are tacky at best, and can make me feel like he's trying to buy my love at worst. It should be something more intimate and personal - if she likes emeralds a lot, an emerald ring would be infinitely better than a diamond one. I like dainty designs more, so if my guy got me a big ring I'd almost feel upset that he didn't even bother to take my tastes into account.
I just wish it wasn't so taboo to make the ring purchase together. Choosing a ring together is still just as meaningful as getting a ring that your SO picked out, but you don't have that awkward moment if you actually hate the ring.
Also practicality of the ring is important too. If I work with my hands a lot, a big ring isn't going to work well. I may like the look of a big ring but if just ruin it with the work I do, whats the point?
My ideal girl would love a ring I got her because of it being a symbol of our commitment. I understand it's a natural desire for people to want to impress others which is okay and I understand, but that quality in a partner is technically a flaw. I wouldn't expect her to be perfect though.
This post does not make sense. You say it's not about the money and then compare ring cost to some indulgences ( that I suspect very few men can afford.) You appear to be saying men, if you can afford these things, then you should be to afford a better ring. And if that's the core of the argument, well that is about the money. However you justify it.
You have really not done yourself, or women in general, any favors here.
If telling you that a $200 ring is fine and that any woman concerned more about the amount spent on the ring than the appreciation behind it then you must have a very low opinion of women.
Well, I actually had a pretty high opinion of women... until I read this take.
Seriously though, I still have a high opinion of most women, but I don't like the materialistic ones whose priorities are out of whack.
@backdoorman please don't let this take change your opinion of women.
Ah, so a $200 ring is materialistic. I don’t even think you read the whole thing.
@Goodwifie LOL, don't worry. I won't let it change my opinion of women. My comment was tongue in cheek. I'm aware materialistic women (and men) exist, but they are not the majority, as evidenced by most of the female responses here.
@Allie_Oops No, a $200 ring is materialistic. But feeling the need to write an entire take on this subject does come off as a bit materialistic.
*isn't
I wrote it actually due to a conversation on a gaming group I’m in on Facebook, and everything in the Take (minus the research on the rings) came from the men in that group.
A girl met her now fiancé on PS4 and he proposed to her last night. Everyone congratulated her but the guys got into this topic of ring size and cost and were glad he actually took the time to buy her something decent that she’d also like. It want solely about money at all.
So the irony is this Take was inspired by the male gender, not me.
Wasn’t*
That's cool. But let me ask you something... if you take a step back, can you see why most people took this MyTake as materialistic and thought your priorities might be out of whack?
No because I never gave anyone a price range and provided cheap alternatives. Plus I think if this was written from a male perspective more people would agree with it.
If you read through the responses here, it's pretty difficult to escape the fact that almost everyone saw your take as materialistic. There's a reason for that.
Yes, if a man wrote it, of course it would not be viewed as materialistic. That's because a person who prioritizes giving is generous, while a person who prioritizes receiving is materialistic and entitled.
That doesn't make sense seeing as I based this Take entirely on male responses. It's just the fact that it came from a female that people are pissed lol.
This take was written from a woman's perspective.
When I proposed to my now wife, I had no engagement ring. We've been together for 8.5 years now and we don't even have rings. Cheapskate? No.
Engagement/wedding rings are nothing but bling for women to show off to their friends to strike envy in the same manner men compare penis sizes. Its original meaning is long lost. Now its just protocol and marketing (much like Christmas). Now why would we waste thousands of dollars when we could use those thousands to start a business that makes money?
They literally aren't, and that's a poor mindset to have to think that buying your wife something nice is a waste of your money. My sister's husband didn't have a ring, either, and he proposed with a life saver's gummy, but you best believe he wanted my sister to have something beautiful. It wasn't because he wanted her to have something to show off. It's because he felt she deserved it. And he's said this multiple times. And he isn't rich, either. She actually makes more money than he does. He's part of the reason I wrote this because he agrees with this Take. Actually, this entire take was based on him, my brother, my dad, and a bunch of men in gamer's group who congratulated a girl gamer on her engagement and her man for getting her a nice ring.
If you want a ring, get a ring. But an overpriced object does not keep a marriage together nor protects it. The problem with society is that they put a dollar value on love and beauty with the mentality of spending more = loves me more. Not only that, when a woman tells her girlfriends she's engaged, why do they immediately want to see the size of the engagement ring? Why does the woman want to show it off on the internet? its because they put more value on how they look to others as a form of validation.
Never said it keeps marriage together but your response is extremely selfish. A lot of things don't keep a marriage together. A BMW won't, yet you see people buy them anyway even when they can't afford. You don't NEED an overpriced car yet there it is. The fact that you don't think your wife deserves says a lot about you and her actually.
Can't believe people actually care about that. Seriously?
Another example of why men should avoid marriage in the current cultural climate.
Yeah. Seriously. Stay away from women.
I'm not gonna lie here, I care about the ring and how much he spent on it, I want to know how much he cares and values me and yeah I don't want a small whimsy ring with a tiny rock on it. I want the ring to say "yes I love you and value you". Nothing more can be a turn off than a cheap thin meddled ring.
If a hunk of coal that has been compressed and a chunk of metal on your finger define what your marriage means, I feel sorry for you. Clearly objects are much more important to you than human beings.
I'm sick of women thinking they are entitled to expensive things because they have a vagina
I think guys should also realise that the price on the ring doesn't necessarily have to be the price you pay for it. As they are crafted goods, there is an element of leeway that can be taken for haggling the price of a ring down. The key to doing this is to do your research, educate yourself on the elements of a ring and the diamond so that you're better equipped at talking the price down.
Pretty much. Diamonds aren't worth that much anyway so their value is MASSIVELY overpriced. IF it's a diamond, definitely look for the on sale ones lol. Even if you can't afford it right away and have to buy it after you propose, I would recommend anyone do this.
If a gal wants "big", he can always get a 3 c cubic zirconia. But I digress - in our family, my grandparents' and parents' diamonds from their rings were passed down to us and our daughters for the main stones in new rings.
I love these kinds of traditions
Not ours. But that’s because my family on my dad’s side grew up very poor. That was mostly due to them being black and no one wanting to hire my grandfather. I don’t think my grandmother had a ring with a stone in it for several years and by the time she passed all of my dads siblings, including himself, were married.
I personally think that a woman who requires a big ring is deeply insecure about the relationship.
What if she requires a big dick? 😂
@Raven_76
That’s not exactly the same thing. A ring is just a materialistic thing. But a woman who actually wants to be pleasured sexually in a relationship isn’t insecure or shallow for it. Not every vagina is the same. Some girls get the most satisfaction with a bigger penis size because their vaginas were naturally built that way.
Another example is how the vaginal canal can naturally be bent forward or backward. Those whose canals are backwards would enjoy “doggy style” sex and would get the most orgasms from that position.
@Ellie-V
Interesting...
Requiring a big dick is no different than a guy requiring a big ass or tits. It's still shallow. But I expect nothing more from someone like you @Ellie-V , no offense of course. It's just you seem to be that kind of person is all.
@Raven_76
There’s nothing shallow with preferring a penis size simply because not every vagina is going to get satisfaction from just any size.
I personally don’t mind big or small, so you don’t really know what you’re talking about... and you’re a Virgin. So, what do you know?
That’s just a shallow thing to do. Like breaking up with a guy because he doesn’t have a 12 inch dick is shallow. Girls are way too sexually selfish these days.
And no mind is 7 inches so I’m not worried or scared.
Only insecure? Add gold-digging as well 😂😂
If a girl doesn’t like the size of an engagement ring I bought her she can buy her own, and if anyone else criticized the size... good they don’t have to marry me then.
Win/win as I see it.
Every ring I have ever bought a woman has been either sold for 1/10 of the cost that I paid for it or the women lost the rings somewhere. I have spent $1,000's on rings in my lifetime and it has ended up being a big waste of money.
In a world where some people are dying from starvation, I don't need a ring. Ring means nothing to me.
Those rings are so useless and a huge waste of money. Especially for the man. Don't even know why people buy them. The only purpose would be to trade (buy low, sell high).