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It’s far easier to fix blame for most than it is to accept responsibility, even if it means blaming the victim. Victim blaming happens a lot these days, and sometimes rightly so, when a criminal ends up getting shot.
So care more about criminals who chose to be criminals than victims who didn't? Yeah okay that's all kinds of messed up and exactly the problem...
I’m just the messenger, and I did not say anything about caring more about criminals who choose to be criminals than victims who didn’t. I agree it’s messed up, so are a lot of things. Way too many criminals are being painted as victims rather than the criminals they are.
Well with that I agree 💯
Because they are nothing but drama queens LMFAO 🤣🤣🤣
Wait? Who's drama queens?
The people blaming the poor victim LMAO who you think I was talking about? You? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm just pulling your leg 🤣🤣🤣
Oh bite me 😛 I'm being serious here..
Lol 🤣
You should use the democrat party for more research. They love victimhood, it’s like their new religion, just ask one... >>
What the hell does the democratic party have to do with people being abused... Especially children or young adults... Take your political agenda to a post meant for that... THANKS 🙂
Clearly you aren’t aware of the ongoing abuse being inflicted on those who , this very minute, are unemployed due to no fault of their own, and we’re just denied the relief the need, by the democrat leadership in Congress. The democrat party has everything to do with abusing people, especially children and young adults.
Sorry if I hit a nerve, but you asked a legitimate question, and I offered a legitimate answer. Like it or not, politics has infected every topic these days.
I have no political agenda, and your rejection of my reply smacks of censorship. This place s an opinion site, remember that, and treat it as such. My reply was not out of line. Your rejection of it is.
Oh yeah, and THANKS! 😆
You reply to EVERY question and turn it into politics.. EVERY ONE... Other people do want to talk about something other than politics 24/7
I just realized that I didn’t thank you yet, for your reading EVERY ONE of my replies. I haven’t even had the time to do that... you are easily my biggest fan. Thank you for that.
I meant on my posts, you answer every one with politics... Funny tho you think I read every one on every post.. yeah don't think so lolol
Thanks for this
Thank you 🙂
sure thing
Cause it never happen to them.
Exactly!
this post is a reminder, how it has always bothered me, that guys, men, get bashed for playing the victim more than women are
Often times “victim blaming” is the word used to attack those investigating the crime.
No, I mean the people that think there was something they could of did, or think they should of left sooner, or try to blame it in what they were wearing... Look at some of the questions and answers on here? "Would you have sex with someone who was sexually molested"? -was one such question... Why wouldn't someone? It's not that person's fault... So what now they damaged goods? Isn't that victim shaming?
well in all fairness if I left the door of my car unlocked and left a lot of money on the front seat and it got taken the first thing people are going to say is “why didn’t you hide the money or why didn’t you lock your door” so if a female gets really retarded drunk around a bunch of other drunken males and then completely washes her hands of any responsibility then she needs to smarten the fuck up because if a guy is supposed to be 100% responsible for his drunken actions then she should be at least a little bit responsible for her drunken actions.
so in that particular case there it’s not victim blaming to tell somebody to make better decisions to protect them selves
What does that have to do with children abused molested? Or teenagers? Or spousal abuse? Or cheating spouses? You're caught on just the one scenario, and real rape really don't go down that way
I am not caught on anything.
It was one example.
Every instant is different.
For example... Rihanna was being violent to Chris brown... he hit her to stop her from attacking him. She was called the victim, she was not the victim. But asking questions to determine why she was hit is considered victim blaming.
Someone kidnapping a child is only the fault of the kidnapper, but if you are a parent who let your child wander the street without supervision, you have to take some of the blame for being absent.
cheating spouses can take some of the blame depending on the situation. A male who isn’t providing enough emotional support or a female cutting sex out of the relationship all together would have to take some of that blame.
No victim Blaming, is If a woman dresses provacitively she's asking for it. Or if she walks down the street alone at night.
See now thats the common gripe but in all logical honesty, criminals look for easy targets and wearing a miniskirt and no panties would be much more apt to get violated than a person in jeans and a belt. It’s no different than someone checking car doors and stealing from unlocked ones but avoiding breaking windows.
Yeah it can still happen but its less likely than the easy access.
I mean I have every right to walk down a dark alley in Detroit in the middle of the night... I’m still not going to do it. I’m smart enough to know that bad people aren’t just going to stop being bad people simply because I feel they should. so if I do and something happens I have to take a bit of responsibility for doing something I should’ve known better than to do.
The same applies to entitled females wearing almost nothing and parading around getting inebriated around even more inebriated males and assuming that drunk males are still responsible for their cognitive facilities while at the same time absolving females of their responsibilities.
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I get that this is a tragic event and that’s unfortunate... the guy said it was consensual and since both were drinking (likely heavily) then it would be impossible to know if she did or did not and also if her having alcohol excuses her of all responsibility for her actions, it would need to also excuse the male since neither can make proper decisions while drinking.
Her suicide was an unfortunate and sad event but it was no one’s “fault”... it was her choice.
Many of us have horrible things happen to us in life (I can attest to that) and we don’t commit suicide.
We live in a society in which people will play victim towards anything and everything. Naturally- the victim loses credibility through time.
Some people are not playing victim. Say that to a child molested by a family member. Or a person beaten to death...
Your attitude is exactly why I did this take... Not every one is playing or enjoys being a victim... Pray it never happens to you or yours and that if it does people don't treat them with that same mindset
Not everyone is playing victim, and that’s true. Having said that, the victim loses more and more credibility the more and more people exaggerate. I think it’s the natural order of things. I think the solution is stop using nasty labels when it’s deemed out of context.
For example, rape isn’t the same as regret. When we start saturating drunken college women who make poor sexual decisions under the same umbrella of rape- well that’s really terrible for the real rape victim.
I will agree with that... But you still cannot blame real rape victims for the actions of others... And what does that have to do with Blaming real victims tho? If sexual our physical abuse... Or people cheated on... This is not a take about fake allegations, but REAL ABUSE... so real abused people should get shamed or blamed because of drunk college students... And not so if those drink college students were/are falls allegations... Some really were drugged or passed out when raped
Honestly, I think labels like abuse are just so many times blown out of proportion that serve one individual persons benefit. It’s just so overused and saturated. It’s a terrible thing, because real abuse victims actually deserve all the help they can get. Real victims shouldn’t have to be blamed. It’s just the natural order of things in my opinion. So I hear you, but I’m thinking that the solution is to stop using false labels and for society to stop acting so sensitive towards normal societal issues.
So if a child gets sexually molested by their parent, what should it be called 🤔 and so it's that child's fault 🤔 or should not get the help and support they need and deserve because of society and false labels?
No of course not. You’re blowing things way out of proportion on this false moral high ground. What kind of person would say it’s a child’s fault if they got molested by their damn parent? I thought we were having a rational adult conversation here.
How am I not? But right away you were saying victims play victim... Everything this take is trying to stop people from doing. False moral high ground? No, just someone who thinks people should stop revictimizing people
What I’m attempting to do is critically think through a societal issue. If you’ve ever studied sociology, you know that society needs a reason to act in particular ways. I say it’s natural for victims to start losing credibility when we live in a society in which people are constantly to claim victim hood status when it’s not deemed as necessary. This causes the theory of the boy who cried wolf. As a society, for a solution to occur, I think we need to stop labeling such harsh titles that are undeserving of the actual context. I don’t think you telling people we need to change does anything. That is my logical assessment.
Wouldn't the more logical solution be to... *Blame/ charge the false accusers than to doubt every victim of abuse...
*More lie detector tests
*Charge people that knew abuse was happening but chose to remain silent And watch/let it continue...
And your boy that cried wolf analogy? They stopped believing "the boy" that cried wolf, not the "Whole village"...
Yes, I think that we need to punish those false accusations to the highest extent of the law. During 2015-2018, they got a slap on the wrist. It’s gotten better. Continue to punish those and stop the false labeling. Once this is accomplished more and more, then credibility will be again be restored to real victims of abuse. Polygraphs are also pretty ineffective.
If only the victim was stronger and could actually defeat the abuser in one on one armed combat.
Say that to an abused infant or child tho 🤔
Yeah true. Vulnerable people need protection, even if they are adults.
It's not victim blaming, its pointing out that YOU are RESPONSIBLE for YOUR own CHOICES!
If you make a bad coice lrarn from it. Stop wallowing in self pity
So you say that to an infant burned by their parent? Or shaken? Or the molested boy or girl? Or the teenagers that get raped by adults? Yeah okay buddy, sure
Fair enough actually childrwn can be victims. But adults have few instances where they can be
But that's not always true either. Do if someone hiding in the bushes, and jumps out and attacks someone? Who's to blame? But why even try to blame instead of try to do more to stop abusers and criminals?
Oh I agree and the best thing you can do is take some personal responsibility and srm yourself. You don't find many women becoming victims if they're packing a 38 special in thier purse
Men and women alike get drugged and then violated. People get targeted by someone they know in most cases according to statistics. Some people are just sick and hurt others. Like the ones pushing random people infront of metro, busses, throw acid at them, or throw rocks at moving cars. Or you might just be unfortunate being in the wrong place and the wrong ime. All I'm saying have some compassion to those who are less fortunate.
And if someone made the wrong choice or trusted the wrong person blaming them won't change what already happened.
As for the future.. trust me they are already screwed for life in most cases. Depression, paranoid, addiction, self harm, PTSD, and some eventually suicide. Please they're not happy it happened to them so show support and kindness. If you can't then don't contribute to their distruction.
@mindNsoul thank you! People in this post tho smh... Most mentioning just women getting raped, when there's so much more abuse than just that, but even that, can't and shouldn't be blamed on the raped, but the rapist. So again thank you for your great reply!!!
Patriarchy this is sadly a man’s world
society
But exactly why so many suffer in silence and are afraid to leave, just to be judged and victimized again!
thats lame
Because the darwin awards are funny.