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I'm straight and Im a christin and I know I'll get hate for saying this but I think gay marriage is wrong and it should be between a man and a woman and I think gay marriage gos aganst the bible and iv meet a few gay people some were guys and the gay guys were nice but I didn't think the girls that were les and bi were nice because the ones iv seen on the websites I used to go to used bullie me online and try to perpresher and if I saw a gay couple in real life I would look away and keep by distance cause in my mind some of them look tough like they could get in a fight easily so I just stay away and keep to myself
Oh my gosh thank u for thinking the same
your welcome
Did you know that the bible is also against female teachers? And did you also know that, according to the bible of course, women have to cover their hair when they're praying? And that wearing polyester is sinful? And that eating shellfish is wrong because they're "detestable"?
Have you had female teachers that you've loved? Have you ever covered your hair while praying? Have you ever worn polyester? Have you ever eaten shrimp, lobster, crayfish, crab, oysters etc? If so, you're just as bad as these gay people you discriminate against so badly.
You're just another shopping cart Christian, picking and choosing the rules that best fit your narrow-minded and hateful little world.
pI never knew that part about the bible
and I'm not bad and I don't discrimanate Im alowed to have diffrent views or opinions on gay marriage or gay people I don't like les or bi people for a resion so please don't argue with me or comment about u think I'm bad or discrimating and please kindly go comment on someone else's comment on here that u don't agree with instead of commenting on mine
I went on a night out with some pals of mine from University. As we headed down to the alley to get to the city centre, there was this gay couple making out and quite blatantly fondling each other too. My friend instantly shouted "Go do that somewhere else you pigs".
The bigger guy turns around and shouts "You can't tell me what to do you homophobes" ...
I have nothing against any couple... so long as they respect the public - which these two weren't. Respect is a two-way street, we don't owe you jack shit.
Would you react the same if it was a straight couple?
*My friend* ... I'm not the one who reacted!
I didn't give a shit.
Thinking about it... a straight couple wouldn't've bothered me so much (per say), because it's common and I'm used to it... Gay couples aren't an day-to-day sight are they?
Ok but your friend behaved very immaturely and your last sentences seemed homophobic. LOL
" Gay couples aren't an day-to-day sight are they?" ?
Well that's a fact lol...
Funny how it used to be common as hell in Ancient Greece & Rome, where there was no such thing as "bi" or "gay" or "straight." People just were who they were & it didn't matter.
I am straight, but I will simply quote a Pastor of mine "The body is just the wrapping on the candy-bar of the Soul. Which is more important? The Wrapping, or the Sweet Goodness that is supposed to be inside?"
Clearly, your pastor doesn't believe in Christianity. ;)
I believe homosexuality is not a choice it is the way you are born. I know there are some people that choose the same sex because the opposite sex may have hurt or abused them in some way but most people are born that way and I don't think that there is anything wrong with it. I really don't understand why anyone would judge someone on their sexual orientation anyways. what someone does in the privacy of their bedroom is none of anyone's business.
You are aware that the American Psychological Association and Royal College of Psychiatrists hold quite different opinions? Not that I expect gay supporters to go on anything but their own personal opinions as the gold standards, haha.
Tell me why homosexuality bothers you?
I treat gay couples the same way I do straight couples that don't involve me... with massive indifference.
Did you know that the most homophobic of men are the ones who get most turned on by homosexual p*rn? It's a projection of their repressed subconscious. They themselves may not be homosexual but their subconscious has feelings of it.
That's interesting
All of those downvoting this- want me to get the article?
www.pbs.org/.../freud.html
Don't be uninformed assholes.
I said the same many times. The truth hurts
Just because they are strong and or courageous doesn't mean they are doing the right choice. And to be honest I think it displays more strength and courage to fight those feelings and try to live as God intended you, than to give in to your desire for the same sex. Because let's face it, what good has ever come out of the gay community? Peace.
This God thing is ridiculous and spreads more hate than love, clearly. The gay community supported miners rights here in Wales in the 60's and were successful. There's a movie about it called Pride. That's one thing.
1 thing doesn't weight out the fact that they, destroy freedom of speech, are going against nature and God, potentially are destroying children, living unhealthy lifestyles both physically and emotionally. I could go on but the gay lifestyle is nothing like the glorified and normal lifestyle that the media is brainwashing us with. Don't get me wrong I'm not a homophobic but I just think that they are doing some very bad choices that are hurting both themselves and our community.
@Hannah591
You could say terrorists are destroying freedom of speech, homosexuality is found in animals too so it's not against nature and I'm not going to even go into the God part, you may as well say dentists are offensive to tooth fairies, paedophiles destroy children not gay people (gay couples usually adopt children neglected by their straight parents), homosexual and straight people take drugs, smoke and drink excessively, they're living unhealthy lifestyles, sexuality doesn't come into it and it shouldn't bother you at all. What you said seems very homophobic. The only homophobic people I know are religious aka the ones who are supposed to be loving, accepting and forgiving yet it seems the atheists are the ones doing that.
@Hannah591 Look at the media nowadays, in newspapers, movies and radio homosexuals are glorified and supported, and everything and everyone saying anything against it are instantly labeled homophobic and intolerant. You are a fine example of that, I give my honest opinions on how I think that the homosexual lifestyle is unhealthy and you immediately start spitting on my religion, now who is the intolerant? As for my claims I've got studies supporting them, I'll give you a few to look at.
Gay relationships are violent.
In 1989, 284 lesbians were interviewed who were involved "in a committed, cohabiting lesbian relationship" during the last 6 months. Adjusted for reporting by just one partner, an estimated 43% of the relationships were violent in the past year.
Gay parents are dangerous for the child.
Those with homosexual parents were more likely to:
report having had sex with a parent,
experience homosexuality as their first sexual encounter,
be sexually molested,
become homosexual or bisexual, and report dissatisfaction with their childhood.
That doesn't come into it. A large amount of straight relationships are violent, it's down to the person and their behaviour, not their sexuality.
Stop using religion as an excuse to be a homophobe.
@Hannah591 About 5% of heterosexual marriages are violent, almost 50% of gay relations are, don't try to cover it up. I can show you 20 studies more about different shit that is going on with gay people but I guess you get my drift.
@madispute Stop using homosexuality as an excuse to bash on religion.
How does violence in their relationships bother your life anyway? Violence in heterosexual relationships doesn't affect you.
@Hannah591 Seriously? Of course I care about how other people feel and every decent human being would too, if homosexual couples are abusive it's really sad and I don't want them to hurt themselves. Secondly they bring that shit on the kids they adopt, and I hope I don't have to explain why having abusive parents is bad for a child...
I hear "blah blah blah God bs blah bitty blah"
Are you not homophobic? why shouldn't they give in to the desire that all people do?
Lol you all claim to be Christians but when you read something in the bible that you don't like you just ignore it. I am not religious but I can at least respect this guy to an extent for not being a cherry picker.
"Judge not, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
Jesus spoke against blind, ignorant, hypocritical, self-righteous judging that overlooks one’s own faults, failures and sins and only sees faults, failures and sins in other people. If you cannot see your own faults (judging others when "there is only one lawgiver and judge"), you cannot point out those of others. Homosexuality may be morally wrong to you, but you are in no place to judge homosexuals because "who are you to judge your neighbor"?
They just hate on God bc deep down they know it's right but won't except it. And want to continue to live out there Godless life n
@madispute Please explain how I have been judging anyone? I'm just expressing my personal opinion backed by the Bible and actual research, while all you do is put your fingers in your ears and start shouting "lalala" when i give reasonable arguments for my claims. My intention is not to make gay people feel bad about themselves, but rather understand that what they are doing is wrong and unhealthy.
@Knitter123 I've got research backing my claims and an all mighty God supporting me while all you got is opinions. I'm guessing that you hate God as well, but please don't take it out on me.
@NO1independentguy Because it is unhealthy and morally wrong, if I get the desire to buy a gun and start shooting people in my school, it's still wrong. Just because they get the desire to have sex with the same sex it's still wrong.
@guitar94 Thank you man, feels good to know that not everyone is going to shout homophone without thinking.
@Random_chick_2384 Pretty much
To judge is to form an opinion. You have formed an opinion on homosexuals, have you not? Not only have you formed an opinion on people whose sexual orientation has no effect on you, you based it on the words on an archaic book that says slavery is okay and the wearing of mixed fabrics is wrong.
Being gay is not wrong. One has no control over who they're attracted to. If that was the case, I could force myself to be attracted to every boy who has ever asked me out just so I wouldn't hurt his feelings. Attraction, however, cannot be forced. I can't just look at someone and decide I'm going to be attracted to them. It doesn't work that way. Homosexuality is nature, not nurture.
It is also not unsafe. Your "studies" report less violence in heterosexual marriages than homosexual marriages because they're are more heterosexual marriages. That 5% could easily translate to 50% because of the huge difference in numbers.
@madispute Honey, that is really not how a study works. And it's unnecessary to start googling "racist quotes from the Bible" just to find something that is either horribly out of context or misunderstood.
And when the Bible says that we shall not judge it doesn't mean that we can't have opinions about things that God approve of. If I think a murderer has done a terrible crime, am judging him then? And if I am, is it wrong of me to think that way? The thing here is that I am not judging them but God is, he said that no homosexual shall enter heaven, and I think that is pretty close to a judgement.
And fyi attraction is not as carved in stone as you may think, it is possible to change who you are attracted to and it in fact happens quite a lot with homosexuals, but it is often done silently as gays that turn hetero are not looked on with kind eyes at all. In fact I've read about people that were bullied and treated poorly by the gay community for switching to hetero.
That;s only your opinion tough. Stop worrying about what other people do in bed please, THAT'S unhealthy.
@NO1independentguy Everyone is entitled to live their own life as they wish, and of course I can't stop them from being gay. But it becomes my business when they start destroying marriage, adopting children and making our society worse by weakening freedom of speech.
And what about all the discrimination that is happening to gay people? you just ignore that? gay people can live normal lives just as straight people do, that's the whole point of them protesting for rights lol.
Also, there are laws against hate speech and discrimination against sex orientation so if you mean insulting and hate speech as a form of weakening freedom of speech then think twice!
Your "studies" are riddled with errors. Surveys, experiments, and observational studies need to follow the rules of random sampling, have roughly the same amount of people in the groups (a lesser percentage of heterosexual marriages and a higher percentage of homosexual marriages), and matching groups (marriages with children, mental illness, financial strain, etc) to prevent bias. If these "studies" you speak of don't have all of those, a large enough population, and a margin of error less than ten, they are biased and invalid.
You cannot judge others for doing what you think is wrong if you don't acknowledge that you are doing something equally bad, or even worse. When you tell homosexuals to suppress their sexuality, you are doing wrong by valuing the words of a book written way after animals showed homosexual tendencies and after the creation of marriage.
Before monotheism, nobody questioned another's sexuality. Before monotheism, marriage was not a religious matter.
Before monotheism, marriage was simply a romantic affair.
Attraction and sexuality is set in stone from the beginning of one's life. Many people have felt that, from a young age, they were different than their friends of the same sex. They didn't feel the same way about the opposite sex when puberty began. They didn't choice their sexuality, bit merely discovered it.
The only way somebody can 'change' their sexuality is if they're abused and tortured in conversion therapy. And, even then, who they're attracted to doesn't change. They're just afraid to express their sexuality because they don't want to go through the horrendous process again.
Homosexuals did not ruin marriage--religion did when it tried to restrict who can be married. There is nothing wrong with homosexuals adopting children as long as they are loving, carrying, and want the best for their children. Freedom of speech was not "weakened" by homosexuals.
If you want to throw homophobic slurs at people, nobody is stopping you. But don't be a little bitch when people get on your ass for hate speech.
@madispute First off you're criticizing a study you haven't even seen, which in my opinion is a bit weird. Anyway, here I got the source for some of my claims;
Lockhart, L. L., et al. I Interpersanal Vialence, 1994, 9, 469492
Secondly you are suggesting that we should live like animals? Should we eat our own shit too and kill our children for food?
Also, when we talk about marriage today everyone is referring to the Christian version, otherwise we wouldn't get married in the Church and the ceremony would not be held by a priest, right? If homosexuals want to make a commitment to each other then go ahead, but please make your own version instead of destroying the 2000 year old version of marriage between a man and a woman!
@madispute "But don't be a little bitch when people get on your ass for hate speech." Wow, mature. Thank you for showing me and everyone else on this forum just how tolerant and loving the homosexual community is! Have a great day and God Bless!
Your study is from 1994. It's invalid.
I'm suggesting that you don't say something is wrong and unnatural when its documentation in nature is statistically significant.
Marriage existed long before christianity. When people refer to marriage, they are referring to the union between two people--not a union between two people and your god.
@madispute We can't trust a 20 year old study but you say that some kind of union between two people >3000 years ago matter? And for the record homosexuality is unnatural as it can't produce any offspring. Probably the biggest reason of intimacy in both nature and between humans is to produce offspring, something that is impossible for gay couples to do. And please don't come with the "the world is over populated anyway" because it doesn't matter, what matter is that it is unnatural.
You can't trust a twenty year old study because the outcomes of such things change over the years. Studies are only valid for five or so years.
I am sterile. Is it unnatural for me to have sex with a man because it can't result in the production of offspring? By your definition, it would be even though it's between a man and a woman.
@madispute You and other people being sterile is as sad as it is not how it was supposed to be. Women wouldn't have an uterus and men wouldn't have sperm without a reason. I'm not a doctor so I can't tell you why people are sterile, but I can tell you that from the beginning all men and women were meant to be able to get children together.
Of course two males can't have a child together, but that doesn't mean it's unnatural for them to love one another.
Instead of policing others' sexuality, practice what you think is right.
End of discussion.
@madispute Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if that is the way you feel then so be it.
I agree and I personally want to apply this to interracial couples.
I'm not sure why interracial couples are still such a scandal. I totally agree with you.
you are good heterosexual Love the gays i understand
Not sure what this means but okay.
lol, eh. I just find this kinda a gross thing to say if you are indeed het. If not then I withdraw my comment
Did I really say anything that's gross?
Or is it the fact that just hearing the words gay and lesbian ,
enough to make your stomach turn?
I am a lesbian, goofball :P
I've been down with the gays, the lesbians, the trans etc. since I was a little kid. No big deal to me. They can't reproduce but the world is overpopulated anyway.
Some gay/lesbian couples can reproduce...
Not by having sex.
Yes by having sex. Some girls have penises, some guys have vaginas.
Well yea if they're trans but i was mostly talking about just plain gay & les.
Wow, I love this take!!! Give a round of applause for this young lady!!!
Thanks :)
It does look strange when you see a gay couple hugging/kissing but I soon smile. They have just as much right to show affection as straight people do and it's better than seeing fighting/arguing. Love is everywhere, homosexual or not.
The first recorded same sex marriage happened before Christianity came into existence.
Personally, if they are happy with each other, more power to them.
Also to the two down voters, hopefully you will find someone who equally loves you as well. :)
The only thing that happens when I happen to see one is my stomach turns.
i love how u say :When I look at gay couples I see a symbol of
strength and courage.
The strength to face the world and the courage to come out.
I am Catholic and was raised in the Catholic way. I do not hate gay people, i have friends who are gay. It was at first hard for me to accept it bc of how i was raised because we are taught that the purpose of marriage is to procreate so it didn't really make sense to me but honestly now i dont mind. They are people who just want love and happiness. There are worse things going on in the world like abortion and i dont care what anyone says you are killng a child. There is scientific evidence to the fact that conception is when life begins so those hating on gay need to stop. They could be the parents raising these children that are killed everyday because someone got knocked up and can't take responsability.
"When I look at gay couples I see a symbol of
strength and courage."
^ I felt a bit sad after reading this. Every (homo or hetero) successful couple is a symbol of strength and courage.
by the way I know you wrote this to enhance your take.
Good effort.
This is something I wrote in 2008.
You missed the whole point.
I assume you've never had a gay friend because you seem to lack empathy with their entire situation.
You say to your family you are dating a girl and all is great.
You say to your family you are a man dating a man and a possibility they could abandon you.
You are close minded and I could care less of what your pea sized brain thinks.
I knew the real intentions behind writhing these things and i agree "This is something I wrote in 2008. You missed... possibility they could abandon you." BUT there are much much better ways to delineate such things. But it's worthless to banter or better say healthy discussion with you because you don't care about the people having pea sized brain & I don't care for the people having low self-esteem, bad manners & non-existent etiquette.
You're a moderator, master having insanely high MHO and (considering your age) you got more experience from me (probably). I was not expecting such rude behaviour from a lady like you.
I truly apologize. My comment was not meant for you and was meant for someone else.
I appreciate your outlook and what you added to this discussion.
however , it is extremely offensive that you would say my motive for writing this when I mentioned this was written years ago (way before my take was ever created).
You shouldn't speak or assume when you don't have a clue.
Thanks again !
Good day !
And by the looks of things, I will leave what I said above as is. The more I read your above comment, the more my message suits you.
toodles ! No hard feelings
All I can say that I'm sorry, I just seen the dark side of your post even tho I noticed your good motive. I can't criticize you because you can say that you ARE something which I am not. At-least you got the guts to write such things. I apologize.
Let bygones be bygones !
I hate gay people, needless to say, it is not right. And what i say now is not a joke in any way. How are the suppose to have a baby? 2 vagina's and 2 dicks cannot make a baby. The dick goes in the vagina to create a baby. that's how it is since the start.
who said anything about them wanted to make a baby? If they are homosexual then they clearly know they are not going to have their own kids.
@girlgeek But still it is not right for two guys or girls coming together. two negative magnets do not attract, 2 wrongs doesn't make a right. It is just my opinion and i don't support gay rights because in my mind it's not a right. You are open to your thoughts and opinions too
K. but if you wanna say stuff about being open to our own thoughts then doesn't that mean that the homosexuals the right to think the way they do? all i'm saying is you shouldn't go around saying you hate gay people when its just there feelings that are different. They are still human beings.
I understand they are humans, i just don't "support" gay rights. If a gay guy came up to me and started doing whatever they do i would react. But if it's on the news and that i don't rebel against the gays. I just think it's not right at all. I don't bother them and they don't bother me... as long as its that way i'am ok. Again you are open to your opinion too.
One of my good girl friends and i had a convo about this and it ended up being a yelling fest after 5 minutes cause she though i was "ok" with it. Everyone has there thoughts and opinions, you can say yours too.
ok, whatever.
alright
@OpinionOwner If two people being gay or lesbian love each other then why hate that? What if a heterosexual did not want any children would you hate them?
it's not right @fun-weird-guy as long as they don't touch me or bother me, i don't have an issue with. It's just i don't believe it's correct.
thank you for being honest. not many people are these days. they really just go with the flow because they have no brains of their own. they let society and hollywood tell them how to think.
It's what i believe not from media and Hollywood but my self belief. Although yes media had crushed these kids with stupid challenges (Jenner lip thingy) and they want to grow up just like them. Not only that, it's brainwahsing, people value likes on instagram just to feel "good" is another example.
Humans are sometimes hard to understand why hate anyone, live and let live...