Nice guys don't finish last (Page 2)

[Pvt_Nutzack]

It all depends really... i mean you can say that a guy that makes damn sure that you finish first is a nice guy but he is also a dick to you or others, or a guy that sucks in bed but its nice to you and others is nice.

Me personalty like to make sure my girl finishes first at least 2 or 3 times, of course I'm not always "in" i move around and play with her with my hands or mouth and try to stimulate her as much as i can then when i know she is satisfied i can then finish and we are all happy, she does the same to me from time to time to keep thins 50/50.

I also would not know if am a nice guy or not, i joke with my friends and make references to how or why they are to white, black, tall, short, but its just for the fun of it and they enjoy it, tho some outside my circle could consider it racist or hateful, i have being with the same girl for almost 10 years now, always respectful but rough and sometimes rude, but that is my personality...

To answer this question i ask her if she though i was a nice guy or not, she just game me a look like "like you don't know already" and when back to playing her games on her phone, so i can't answer it, tho if i had to say it i guess i would be a 7 in a scale from 0 to 10, 0 being a dick and 10 being the nicest fella in the world

[MrTexan37]

You almost told the truth here nice try but here's reality! Yes nice guys finish last and here's why your right that when women are young they dont go after the guy with nice guy characteristics they go for popularity looks hot body all the superficial things but when you age and get maturity then OMG you realize youve wanted the guy who was the nice guy but now your used and abused and SWEAR that no guys gonna hurt you again blah blah blah and when you do give the nice guy a chance you take out all your frustrations and mens past failures on him and he ends up miserable thats why im not a nice guy im a good man! A good man will love honor and protect his woman but he won't put up with bullshit or be walked all over hell know when to say no to her and when to be sweet nice guys always say yes cause they want to be liked by everyone but end up being used, nice guys Wait on women hand and foot and never ask for anything in return a good man will do for his woman as long as she does equal for him its 50/50 a good man is his womans best friend and knows her wants and needs a nice guy sits like a lap dog begging for a bone a good man will try to get his woman everything she wants but will make sure she has everything she needs a nice guy will go broke buying her every little thing she sees i could go on but i think I've made my point

[BloomingGirl]

that is only fair, you must look out for you

[MrTexan37]

Look at the risk of sounding like a super douche ill say if you let a woman walk all over you she will and its true maybe not in the bad way but she will control you

[Creeper1o1]

my favorite part "SWEAR that no guys gonna hurt you again blah blah blah" haha love that shit.

[Tormentarian]

Everybody get of your little fairy ponies, nice guy this and that, that stuff doesn't matter or make sense as you grow and in the long run, you only attract and receive any kind of treatment from anyone only if you allow it and accept it as meaningful to your existence.

How so? Problem with people nowadays is they have feelings that are easily penetrable. Those looking for a real relationship are too naive, try to treat everyone as if they are the same person - not dynamic enough in their preferences, hurry into these things and try to reason over instinct to pick the right partner.

These things shouldn't be planned at most but follow a natural course of building up the relationship. There is a reason why there is the 'one' you will ever call soulmate even if things later don't work out.

If he/she friendzones you, think incompatibility and don't dwell too much on it, because even if it was to work out, the chances of being heartbroken are huge - assume that you have been the last resort to them.

And girls and boys out there know that you love this person, but just don't pour your feelings to everyone every time because you have a hunch you already what he/she wants you - study your own character and your one for your potential specimen.

[im911nc]

From what I've been through, I'm a quiet, introverted guy, I don't go out a lot and I don't approach people in general, I mind my own business (mainly cause the city I live in is RATCHET a. f.) I've always been sporty; athletic. I've been working out intensely for the last 4 years and not to brag, I have a better body all around than most guys.
But even having looks does not mean anything though. It's only a ++ Plus ++, a positive, but it is no guarantee to most girls. I don't have a charm, I don't have a bubbly personality or an "aura" or "aroma" to me. Whatever you want to call it. Nice Guys like me, do finish last, especially if you're shy and quiet like I am, I am a responsive person and do talk when approached, but me approaching a girl does not happen, and will never happen for a long time to come.
The last and first girl I ever asked out, led me on with so much eye F_cking or "eye-flirting" to only say, I actually got a boyfriend. It's scenarios like this that keeps me from not bothering with girls, being a nice guy doesn't bring anything and even having good looks does nothing. It's being able to flirt and flatter a girl from what I've been through. If you can't kiss a girl's @$$ enough, then you won't get her. That's what I've been noticed where I live in America, and I grew up outside of the U. S. to only see how spoiled the majority is.

[Somehockeykid]

I have the same thing happening right now.

[Anonymous]

Good post. Pretty impressive insight for a 18 year old. The whole "nice guy" dilemma is actually much more complicated than people think. I'm a "nice guy" but I've managed to score with a few attractive women over the years. It's not always a sexual turn off for women to be genuine and caring. However a "nice guy" needs to know where to set boundaries and/or avoid being too available or boring. He also needs to believe that he deserves a good girl. Nice guys often have a twisted sense of "toxic guilt" and unnecessary shame for being a man. This maybe because he was brainwashed growing up. Primary public education is dominated by liberal women who unfortunately consciously/subconsciously brainwash young boys into to being "nice". Also the sexual frustration a "nice guy" feels may be more about expectation and peer pressure than his own biological needs. I do go out to clubs/bars with the boys occasionally. Unfortunately we all too often compete with one another about "we need to get laid". Sometimes I'm in the mood for that but most of the time I just want to have a good time and not be pushy with women. I'm older now... so for the most part I don't give a shit. But I can remember the pressure I got from other dudes during my college years. If you weren't getting laid it was you were less of a man or a homo. Unfortunately that compounded with the sexual frustration you were already feeling... so then you get really angry, depressed, etc and then only makes it tougher to get women. The peer pressure is a cultural thing and I hate it.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the post, specially because i am passing through a break up. That's true, we girls need to experience (not necesarily in the sexual way) dealing with the opposite sex.

Of course, society media sells false stereotypes to everyone just for sell and what can "attract" to everyone.

I discovered that if one is interested in jerks (in both genders) is because one can confuse jerkness with assertiveness. The media puts that bullshit.

We need to break free from the idea, not necesarily is that the ugly is the best option, or the less intelligent or less charming, no, it is being with someone who can be a friend, who respects you and doesn't want anything else.

Also the idea of nice guy and fake nice guy can also be applied to the girls side.

"If the girl doesn't show the signs of liking him, he doesn't chase her relentlessly but give her space by either limiting his friendship or cutting off to move on, but always wants the best for her."

I understand this feeling, in both ways, it can be hard, but I always think that if you really, really love someone, you need to think and do whay you think is the best for your beloved even if it hurts you in the beginning.

[CharlieGP]

It depends on what the "nice guy" is going after. If he is young (late teens through most of his 20's) then yes, absolutely he is going to finish last because the large majority of his dating pool (girls of similar age) are complete idiots as to what they want in a relationship. Young girls have no concept of what a stable, healthy relationship should be. They instead opt for the douchebag with money, the jerk that presents them a challenge, the asshole that only the girl sees the "good guy" within.. take your pick, it's all cliche.

Now when the nice guy gets older, then yes he does finish first because that stupid little girl has grown up into a woman that has been screwed over a time or two, probably watched her only chance with a nice guy (the guy she friend zoned years ago who is now married and living happily) slip through her fingers and now she's just yearning for a nice guy that will treat her well.. but alas, her 20's have left her a shallow, empty vessel that has been ran through so many times, probably has a kid or two hanging around, and likes to convey herself as a "strong woman" because she's a single mother instead of accepting the reality that she's a f*cking idiot.

Nice guys certainly win the race in the long run, but the younger years see them constantly falling behind the curve because of assholes.

[Jjjoooggg]

I actually almost connected with a girl in her 30s. didn't work out because I was advised to just stay friends. She felt rejected. Years later I did a background search. Shocked that she was divorced twice. She never told me.

[Jjjoooggg]

She also thought that i was insecure and worried too much. She said that in her last email to me.

[pkrishi]

I use to be a nice guy.

I was shy and too good to people. I wouldn't stand for myself. I'd be ashamed to look at a girl, and even more ashamed if one of them should ever demonstrate interest.

I kissed a girl once when I was 15, only to kiss again when I was 22. That's also when I lost my virginity.

I'm now 28. I'm not tall, I'm not handsome, I'm not rich. Between losing my virginity and today, I've slept with some 50 different women, all of them beautiful and some of them very beautiful, including my girlfriend.

What happens is that I became a man. That doesn't mean sleeping with a lot of women. It means learning how to respect yourself first, to put yourself first place. Stand up for yourself. I had to change. I had to quit being an apologetic doormat that everyone walked on and embrace both my qualities and defects, and accept this is the way I am. F_ck others if they don't like me. This shift was not easy, though. Change is always hard, but its worthwhile.

So eventually I started getting hit on even by gay men, and I'll often catch beautiful women staring at me, even though I'm no hot-looking guy.

None of that matters now, as I've been now in a serious relationship for a year. She's very happy with me and I'm happy with her. I've never cheated or intended to cheat on her and I go out of my way to do anything to keep her happy in all aspects. Still, she knows that, regardless of my love for her, I'm willing to leave her if she ever does anything I consider unacceptable - I'm not afraid nor ashamed of that. Maybe I'd never find someone like her, but I respect myself first, always.

So good guys finish last because being a guy and being a man are not the same thing. I'm a man, very good at it and very proud at that. Being a man will get you far, even if you're like me: short, skinny and kind of a nerd. Do women prefer jerks? Maybe. But once you become a man - not a jerk, not a good guy, a man - will have plenty of women around for you.

[suziecuzie]

50 different women in 5+ years? a woman who did this would be labeled a slut.

[bloodmountain1990]

That's double standards for ya.

[Docomoz]

So, I think I fall in line with this "Nice Guy" thing.
First of all, I don't think I'm a nice guy. I'm a cook, in the kitchen I swear like a crazy bastard, it's the nature of the cooking world, but outside of this world, I'm actually little bit of the same, but much more calm, reasonable and little less swearing (except when I talk to a girl I like, I try to not swear that much cause I think she'll hate it which I know now is obviously not true.) There are time that I get mad, and some how do some of the stupid shit, but afterwards I regret to hell that I did some of these things, and I would apologize to who ever (except in sever cases, I hold my ground, and stand up for my self, and would never apologize about it).

Now, I'm 27 and I've not yet had a girlfriend ever. Thing is, a lot of girls shows interest, or is very nice to me in a way that, they would do things like Lift me up from the back out of no where and say, "Hey you! Cheer up!", or just look out for me when ever they can.

I don't ever go out, I barely drink (only to socialize), I use to smoke weed, but now I've stopped.
I have my small circle of friend whom I trust and hang out with, I have my 2 Best friends to get my back when shit happens, other than that, I do not interact with women outside of my work place, because how they treated me as a kid, and how they treated me after I grew up, I just never really gave a shit any more because of things they put me through.

back in Jr high school, I've told a lot of girls I liked them, I had no fear of that what so ever, I was rejected every single time, I still kept going for these girls (wow how stupid am I, now that I look back on it) They ALWAYS came to me for advice about this boy or that boy, and they went for all my douche bag friends who at the time seem much cooler than I and had things going for them.

[Docomoz]

There is this one time, I really liked this girl at work, she led me on so hard, flirt, held hand, had my hand over her shoulder (I consider this to be pretty intimate), and even brought in a guy to work to make me jealous (it worked!) and out of the blue at a party, she brings me outside and said, hey look I'm not interested, lets stop this, that broke my heart so much, after this I didn't think I can ask another girl out. why didn't she just tell me straight up the first time we met, hey I'm not interested, I can take it just like I did in high school, I'm a man, and I deal with my problems like one.

[Docomoz]

this will be a long post...

Now back track to 2010, I really liked this girl in the kitchen I worked with, since the first time I saw her, she was this very beautiful (pls no judge I don't always like pretty girls), yet kind, smart, genuine (at the time it seems so) girl. we worked together total of 2 years, but I've only ever interacted with her started after the first year that we've work together. Since then we hang out a lot, we would text each other daily, she has lightning fast response time. Thing is, I never got to tell her how I feel because of what happen with the previous girl at work (same place). I went out with her a couple times, not really asking her out, but I suggest to do things as friends. We dance together very closely, we did a lot of things together, I was even over at her house at 1am sometime, watch movie with just her on the couch, I never ever made a move. continue ->

[Docomoz]

Later on, I found out she actually kissed one of my "good "friend (later turn dbag and not friend anymore) at work, Never told me about it, I found out by looking at my friend's phone whom he left at my place (I was really insecure by that time, I had to do it for my self) and found the text of them talking to each other which I never knew about, and found out they kissed! I was like woah how is this happening to me, I thought she liked me instead but she went for my douche bag friend who later ditch my 3 br apartment, cause they lost their job to their pride, and I had to keep going on with life aka find new roomie, and pay for rent. and long story short, little after this happen, she was not seeing him any more cause he quit his job, but we still never got together despite of that. Then she left the city for some unknown reason, at first she gave me her number once she was home, then she just disappeared from the face of the planet, never again did I see her, its been 7 years now.

[Docomoz]

Now fast forward 4 years, New work, New place, New people. This time, I fell in love with my sou chef, because of her work status, I once again, never told her I liked her. When I first met her, I thought she was this bitchy person, kind of all up tight and stuff, and she had a boyfriend at the time, everyday at work, she would spent 30 min outside before service to see him and do you know bf/gf things, since they work together I guess its hard for them to see each other? I don't know. Anyways, later on 6 months into working, I found out they broke up, she seemed very sadden by it, so I of course being the nice guy, try to comfort her, you know try to interact and stuff, the more I talk to her after she broke up with him, the more I found out I liked her. she ALWAYS helped me at work, no matter what the situation is after that, she was always super nice to me, give me a lot of smile and stuff, but I thought she was just being nice continue ->

[Docomoz]

She was also really good friend with this very bitchy and lazy girl at work, they were so tight that, I didn't really feel like telling her I like her, because I would have to deal with this girl (which I did anyways, this bitchy girl would always ask me to hang out, and being the nice guy, I could not reject and just went with it, it was so horrible, I went to hospital for stomached related stress problem, I even cried at work because she was so hard to deal with and I didn't want to do any more.)
Now after knowing her for a year and couple months (8 months or so after she broke up) she is now gone, just like the first girl I really liked at my old work (the one that left and never show her face again)
She left the city, tho I still have contact with her, I still can not tell her that I like her for some reason,

[Docomoz]

and just to clarify, I don't act overly aggressive to girls I like, I treat them with respect, I open door for them when ever I can, if they seem like not interested, I often back off, shut me self out from them and not even say a word. I have my value, I'm proud of what I do, and I have no shame in my body (I weight 120 pounds, I'm a skinny guy) and I dress better than average everyday guys, I save my money and buy good looking clothes, they are expencive, but I prefer quality over quantity, I own 1 pair of jean which cost me 250$ etc this is not to show off, but to feel good while in them, and I get looks everyday from women on the street (I'm not bragging here, just stating the facts).

[Docomoz]

cannot edit my some of my post, where it saids 7 years, i meant to type 4

[Micky5Iron]

(Nothing is easy) Men and Women do stupid things to each other

The battle between a "nice guy" and a "fake nice guy" or I would rather say "Man" verses "Dude that's not quite there yet." It's not this black and white, I know there is more gray areas when it comes to different types of guys (girls too), but I'll comment on those main two.

I really do think these two guys are different sides of the same coin.

You got this guy the "the real nice guy" he's perfect, like the guy listed above, we all want to be him. That's pretty good description of what being a man is. Problem is we are not perfect and won't be, but as men we should strive every day to be our own version of this. (We will win and we will fail constantly, that's life, but we will hopefully do it like a man)

Then the other guy that's on his way (dude that's not quite there yet). He's insecure, he get's angry if you point that out to him but not at you it's more likely at him self, he beats himself up constantly. Maybe he thinks something is wrong with him. So badly, he wants to be the man though. He might complain to much sometimes, but that all goes with insecurity. Also Sex is easier than love. All this stuff so unattractive, which is why I these guys aren't there yet.

I'm not hating, I've been this fake nice guy (it flares up every once in a while, bad days anyone)

1. Be yourself, flood statment (who the eff is that sometimes )
2. If she doesn't feel the same way you do, move along (yes it effing hurts)
3. Stop complaining (okay okay complain about one less thing today than the day before)

Obviously I don't have all the answers it's almost 3am with a lot of self reflection on my part.
It's a start

[AndrewSS02]

So here is my thought on this. I've known many women in my time. Watched as they pick some guy who they think is nice and get all torn up because of them. Some where abused mentally, others physically. Some not at all only to say they where boring. Some have even stated that they wish to find a guy with priorities yet they themselves can't keep a job. It really comes down to attraction which is about 80%. You may be attracted to someone and only come to know them later down the line. When you are attracted to someone and start hanging around or dating. Start asking yourself what do you really like about him other than the physical attributes. You can meet many nice guys and have lots in common yet no physical attraction. Leading to say things to your own friends "I wish I can find someone like so and so" meaning nice just better looking.
It always comes down to that for a lot of the nice guys. They are stuck hanging around for someone who has been messing around with their life while they have everything but a relationship for themselves. Yet they are supposed to pick up all the baggage from what was before in order to be happy? Most nice guys will stay nice. The ones that become dicks are the ones who where nice to so many only to be beaten and broken in return.
They then go on to do the same to girls leading to the same question above. Do nice guys finish last. They do because they have to in this day and age. Its the only way of finding someone. When it comes to marriage. Why do you think so many men now a days make women sign pre-nups? They dont trust them anymore. So nice guys finish last but with lots of distrust.

[mef1975]

I was one of those nice guys that got beat down so much, I don't even go out anymore, ever.

[Anonymous]

Nice guys in relationships can get a girl if they can be confident, honest, and knowing what's right. If a girl doesn't like the guy for who he is then that girl is not the right one. There's always someone out there that will be the one. Just be yourself and focus on things for the meantime and someone will eventually come into your life. For nice guys, its tough to find a girl because they try to make a relationship by being very nice and a girl sees the guy only as a friend nothing more. Some girls will test guys to see how they can handle situations. Some guys won't be able to tell what the girl is trying to do even if she gives signals. The most toughest part is when some nice guys made a relationship and things don't work out, it will hurt a lot because they had known the person for a while knowing all their personal life which ends up as part of their life in memory. It may be even harder to let go because of that. If the girl still doesn't want to have a relationship anymore, let the girl go for whatever makes her happy and move on to something better. It won't be the end of the world for a nice guy because he believes in himself and nobody can change him as long as he's confident and never change for who he is, he may eventually find the one without trying. :)

[Jjjoooggg]

Cont.
She never seemed to show an interest in him.

[Yc2K15]

For some reason a lot of people on here think the only people that exist on this planet are the ones they know or the ones they read about in magazines and see on tv. Its sad people have to say shit like this to fuck with peoples heads and make them think they are acting socially abnormal.

[Johnson123]

This is amazing! i have a girlfriend because i'am a nice guy, i mean sure i want to have sex with her BUT she wants to wait which is 100% ok with me. I'am not eager to jump into her pants, i love her for her and not only for her body. I really love this mytake. I barely even read these but yours was very good. Points were well made. Great job once again :) You gave hope to the other real nice guys out their! I just hate when guys try and get with a girl just to have sex with her, that is very petty and low, then he dumps after 3 months. Well once again, great my take :)

[kambo_trick3y]

Guys seem to think that being a nice guy is all that's required for attraction, which is funny, cause many of the guys that say this are usually one or more of the following:

Unkept, out of shape, GIGANTIC girl worshipping doormats, boring personality, bad hygiene, etc.

They think being nice is the only thing necessary to attract a girl. Which is funny, cause I've never seen these guys date an ugly, unkept, boring personality girl. Hell, many of them chase a girl with big tits and an ass the size of Texas, and they are VERY willing to forego her really shitty personality.

Hypocrisy at it's finest. Not all guys are like that but, damn I've seen more than my fair share. They don't realize that being nice IS genuinely an asset, but that is NO excuse to fall short on EVERY OTHER attractive quality.

A hot, really buff, funny and witty, confident and no shit-taking nice guy will ALWAYS beat a hot, really buff, funny and witty, confident and no shit-taking bad guy.

[HeartsBloodDupre]

This to a T!

[Phoenix98]

I'm glad somebody took the time to write something like this and as a true gentlemen I thank you.

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( just for jokes )-( I do have several punches though lol )
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[XNicholeMariex3]

You are a perfect example of a nice guy!

[Phoenix98]

Thank you.

[Murie]

Remember Elliot Rogers? He was a fake nice guy. He flipped out because he felt he'd done all the right stuff and was owed a certain reaction. Most women (and men) can smell that fakery and will not respond to it. Then you get guys that are resentful and bitter about women not wanting nice guys. Nice guys, real ones, are the best. The absolute best. My best and closest friends are guys, always have been, and are nice and sincere. They are all married or in long term relationships with great women that saw they were nice guys.

It always pays to be a decent person, regardless of gender. Just don't act like the world owes you praise for doing so, because that isn't "nice". And yes, this applies for both genders.

[Jjjoooggg]

When I was 24 I met this girl in martial arts. She was only 17. She called me to take her to the mall. And she wrote a letter and she took a picture with me. A student told me that she called meI a "fag" because I didn't sleep with her at the national tournament. I can't sleep with a minor or a student that I am teaching.

But I was having a hard time dealing with my twin and work and parents. So I tried to just be friends. I just wanted to have lunch with her. I called her once a week. When that didn't work, few months later I bought her a nice Christmas present and flowers for Valentine's.

One day my twin went missing. I felt he was dead, true. She could sense something was wrong and she finally offered to come to my place for lunch, I ignored. She asked to go for lunch a few months later. And asked me to visit her in college. Called me after first semester and wrote me two years later and called me for lunch after graduation.

[Jjjoooggg]

I didn't respond to her requests because she wasn't there for me the previous six months and was rude when I told her about my brother. And her friend called me an A hole everyday for four years. I know that she is a good woman to her new husband and has a great career as a lawyer and owns a company. I wish her the best. It wasn't just about her. But all the drama from her classmate. He really wasn't her friend by she confided in him. And I got a lot of bullying in return.

[Jjjoooggg]

by the way, she was with her abusive high school quarterback boyfriend during all this. Sometimes nice guys finish last. And sometimes they decide not to cross the finish line.

[Jjjoooggg]

Also, I was grounded for two years after my twin's death. So I was supposedly not allowed to see her. Also, I was grounded all through high school to my bedroom. Sometimes circumstances makes us single.

[Murie]

@Jjjoooggg It wasn't because you were nice. It was because she was 17 years old an immature and didn't know how to deal with a perceived rejection and didn't know how to have a simple, mature conversation with you about it. Gods honest truth - 90% of heartache could be avoided or rapidly resolved with a single 20 min (or less) conversation, both parties being fully up front. I'm sorry you ran into someone that immature (but again, 17 years old) and I am sorry for your losses. Never stop being nice. Just look for more grounded, mature people. Life is filled with people that are dramatic, selfish and immature. It sucks, but you weed them out of your day-to-day and surround yourself with a core of good people. Good luck to ya!

[Jjjoooggg]

Well, she complained about her football quarterback boyfriend abusing her and we talked every week. I believe that she had me as a back up plan.

[Murie]

@Jjjoooggg It is possible, but I personally don't think so in this case. Considering your age difference and where and how she knew you and that she openly told you about her boyfriend and issues there, I'm thinking she saw you as a source of experience and advice. She probably also hoped you might correct her on nasty things he might have said or done to her to salve hurt feelings, but all in all she sounded pretty wrapped up in her own drama. Again, 17. Even if you'd shown an interest (glad you stayed away from that, again...17...) I'm pretty sure she might have made out with you at most and shied away from anything more serious. Sometimes a guy or girl looks for someone safe and reasonable and helpful to be a sounding board and buck up their self esteem. Then when they feel better and have sound advice, they go back fully loaded to confront their partner for some more drama (or closure, one can hope). In any case, the most you'll lose being a nice guy is some of your own time. Stay cool :)

[partlys4int]

Well, the thing with this matter is that girls THINK they like nice guys but in fact will always come back to the more adventurous douche bag who controls them.
It's just how our biology shaped us sadly and I can attest from first hand experience that it is that way.
I have a fair share of assets that would make me attractive to women, but the sad truth is that I can't compete with the douchebag who'll always win out for a short period until the woman comes back crying.

It's the same thing with us guys really: we ALL want a smart, funny and caring woman but we get weak when a 'femme fatale' crosses our path.

[Madam_Inferno]

Ah, my first boyfriend was a fake nice guy... To bad I was stupid and ended up doing eveything he wanted, the best part was that he cheated on me and didn't have the balls to admit it. HA! I'm so happy the other chick dumped him when I told her lol.

My actual boyfriend is SUCH a nice guy! I absolutely adore him! He always thought he would end up alone from being nice to girls. (Worst thing is that his last girlfriend broke up with him and said 'Wow you suck, I'm gonna be a lesbian, must be way more fun'. BITCH..

But it's true, good guys don't end up last. If the right person comes along :) <3

[thatcomplicatedgirl]

True enough, but unfortunately many male GAGers here would still say that all girls want jerks and blah blah. They are living in some kind of YA movies lol

[Marinepilot]

Too many girls want bad boys. They try to rescue them, get knocked up
and abandoned. Then they come groveling back to nice guys who have
changed and are more confident. They're crushed when the nice guys
aren't nice anymore and don't want them. If they're good enough now
why weren't they good enough back when they first expressed interest?
Frankly, why should we accept you when you gave the ass douches the
best years and want us to take the leftovers? You're used and damaged
and any man worth his salt won't want you. Nor should they. This will start
a shitstorm, C'est la vie !

[yellowmamba024]

Nailed it. Couldn't have said it any better. I see no thumbs down from the ladies yet. Maybe because even they know it's true, it's damn true.

[Marinepilot]

@yellowmamba024 I think because the ladies know I'm right. I was thinking about a girl
I was friends with in high school. She was in National Honor Society, all the activities, but
she liked the bad boys. One guy who was a nerd, I liked him and we were friends worshiped
this girl. Long story short, she got knocked up by a bad boy and he went to Vanderbilt Medical
School, is an enormously successful M. D. and the top pediatrician in the country. I rest my case.

[yellowmamba024]

@Marinepilot Wow what a beautiful story. I like it.

[Marinepilot]

@yellowmamba024 I sear it's the truth.

[trellbrown23]

FUCKING NAILED IT!!!

[Touchmehxx]

Funny that I ran into you again. I agree with everything you said apart from 'used and damaged' frankly thats gross. Women aren't objects. K?

[XtraJordanary]

Here's the difference to me: I love nice guys, I hate push-overs.

I want a chivalrous knight, not someone without a spine who will do anything to make me like them. You can be strong, independant, and have integrity without being a jerk. But a lot of guys don't know how. When guys are strong yet kind, it shows me that they have what it takes to take care of me. Regular "nice guys" who are push-overs, they just show me that I am the dominant one and they are trying to earn my affection. I want them to earn my respect and win my heart.

[ManuelMarquez]

Just because a guy is a pushover, doesn't make him''not a nice guy''