The problems with Libras

[Lesbobutch818]

Now this is just the darkside of libras that I have experienced in my life. This is not to say all libras are this way and posses these qualities but this is why I have problems with them.

Indecisive - Libras cannot make a decision on the spot. They have to weigh out all the options but sometimes the best option needs to be made faster. Libras always try to pick a better deal. Not knowing what they want.

Manipulative - Libras don't let their charm work for you.

Pleaser/not firm – Libras do not stand firm on what day believe and they tend to go with the group. They never really handle pressing issues also due to their indecisiveness. They don't want to get anyone mad.

Self-righteous thinking - Being so open-minded they have all the right answers? No, you're not you're just so indecisive.

Behavior creates a mask - Sometimes they are two faced.

They force themselves to be in the middle of gossip queen and kings.

They are very many people - Sometimes materialistic, they care of the apperance and society. They think so highly of beauty. Way too much of a status for such of are blinded by it.

That'll make the best close friends often very fast because they are social butterflies.

Dating - Libras are not very loyal; they have let options and plan life's around such. They are serial daters.

Master manipulators - Because Libras appear to be nice and innocent but they don't offend anyone with their words. They will make it seem like they love, they say it to you, but it really comes down to the possesions.

They will not be your rock or backbone; they not really supportive.

[LibraPisces66]

I am a Libra (w/ Pisces moon), a Maya Jaguar/Ix, a Vedic system Capricorn and am an astrologer. Each sign and person is unique, and generally a product of their various star chart positions, houses, rising sign, moon sign, Chiron placement, and much more. Astrology is an almost unbelievably complex area of study, and you could easily spend your life studying it alone, without necessarily mastering it. It is also an ancient and revered science going back to the early Egyptians, Greeks, Maya, and India. Each soul is different, and usually has karmic issues that also affect their present incarnation, how they act or are perceived, and their respective life or personality challenges. Having said that, are Libras usually indecisive? Yes. Are they able to almost always see two sides of an issue, and truly empathize with both? Yes. As an Air sign, are their minds almost always active, tending to make them very talkative and cerebral? Yes. But not necessarily. Nor are they all of those. Neither is any person, born under any sign. All signs have their respective challenges and strengths. All signs also change and evolve as they grow older, and the rising sign exerts its force. We are all truly works in progress. If you have questions or would like a reading you'll have to contact me by direct message since as a new member here I either don't understand yet how to make an opinion comment, or have enough Xper points. I can't seem to find how that works.

[springocelot]

I'm a Libra and I've never heard of this nor possess most of these traits. Though I am indecisive and think highly of beauty.

[misscoffeehead]

I second this. I'm exactly the same

[Trini-Rose]

Amen agreed and I'm a Libra too..
We are really nice until you piss us off..

[Lesbobutch818]

Ladys, ladys, ladys I meant this post not to It was just me talking about Some experiences I had with some libra in my life but not All I am sure you women are wonderful.

Can I get a group hug?

@springocelot @misscoffeehead @ Trini-Rose

[Lesbobutch818]

@Trini-Rose

[Trini-Rose]

Yes... ?

[Lesbobutch818]

It is all good.

[Amy10223]

indecisive - Libras cannot make a decision on the spot. That's right. I don't like to make any mistakes in my decisions--so I will weigh all the pros and cons to make a good choice. Why be hasty?

Manipulative - Libras don't let their charm work for you. Wrong! I am the opposite of manipulative--in fact-- I know plenty of those who are. Not me, no.

Pleaser/not firm – Libras do not stand firm on what day believe and they tend to go with the group. Right--we don't want others to get mad. however--I am learning how to say "No" in order to stay sane. If you get mad because of me--tough.

Self-righteous thinking - Being so open-minded they have all the right answers? Yes, this is true. I like to be idealistic, although it is not always possible. I know I'm not perfect; but neither are you!

Behavior creates a mask - Sometimes they are two faced. NOPE! We are afraid to make people mad, and so we try to please everyone. See above.

They force themselves to be in the middle of gossip queen and kings. You could not be more mistaken. I HATE GOSSIP.

They are very many people - Sometimes materialistic, they care of the apperance and society. They think so highly of beauty. Yes, I love beauty. Who does not? I love beauty in sunsets, mountains, hills, etc. I take care of myself--although I am not a fashion queen.

That'll make the best close friends often very fast because they are social butterflies. Yes, I like to make friends but am NO SOCIAL BUTTERFLY- That's my sister, the Taurus.

Dating - Libras are not very loyal; they have let options and plan life's around such. That is such BS!

Master manipulators - Because Libras appear to be nice and innocent but they don't offend anyone with their words. They will make it seem like they love, they say it to you, but it really comes down to the possessions. NOPE! Not at all.

They will not be your rock or backbone; they not really supportive. MORE BS!

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[SonOfSun]

Oh come on people... This is not science. Do you honestly think the position and movements of celestial bodies (all except Planet Earths) at the time of your birth, can in any way influence a person's life? This superstition is as logical as believing a Leprechaun riding a Unicorns in the Gobi Desert caused the most recent Everest avalanche.
The scientific method that Astronomers and Astrophysicists follow, and at least a millennium of humans questioning the absurd has yielded the testable evidence needed to understand their mechanisms. We understand the precession of the Equinox, the concept or axial tilt/wobble. We can calculate the obliquity of our orbit and the effect it may have on our climate. Heck, we can calculate orbital variation of the majority of celestial bodies within our solar system.
Given the innumerable relationships of celestial bodies, each, moving at blistering speeds in relation to us, I would be surprised if one couldn't correlate their most recent breakup, anxiety attack or hurricane toto some cosmic event. Thankfully, correlation does not prove causality.
If anyone could produce the slightest evidence to support the notion that, because of their birthday, "Libras are not very loyal" or "Sometimes they are two faced." I would give up my evidence based naturalism and jump on this misguided band wagon of fallacy.
When one questions their current view of reality, especially one deeply seeded in their identity, they end up opening the door of knowledge. You stand to gain so much more from studying and testing the natural, physical laws that govern our beautifully intricate surroundings rather than pointing a finger in blame at the heavens because your crush isn't into you.

Astrology cannot account for the basis of astrological associations with terrestrial affairs, Its lacking any reasonable explanation for it's claims and has not contributed anything of value to the advancement of Humanity.

[muspelhem_5]

The time of year you were born is quite predictive of a lot of things though. E. g. I was born in April, and people born in April are more often ill.

[Lesbobutch818]

You sound dogmatic. Each of us have our own world view and science can be religious also to how people apply it. And depending on your beliefs and definition of faith, science to me requires faith.

[SonOfSun]

While I have never heard of this, I'll go along with your hypothesis and follow it up with a question. Would someone born on April 24nd be more susceptible to illness than say someone born on May 6th?

[SonOfSun]

Faith is, by definition a belief without proof or evidence. Science and mathematics on the other hand rely on evidence and proof as the backbone for understanding...
How many things do you believe without a shred of evidence? Very little I imagine. You don't believe everything your told for good reason! Have you ever questioned or analyzed how logical your own world view is? Until recently I hadn't. Most people are comfortably stuck in their world view with a fear of the unknown.

[ponybabies]

Lol
1) who isn't indecisive at times? oh that's right many people, not just Libra's.
2) wrong
3) I do stand strong on things I believe but no one is perfect and I try NOT to get people mad because I love seeing people smile or making them smile.
4) I am open-minded but NO ONE has all the right answers
5) I am not two faced lmao other people than Libra's are two faced! I am weird and am myself around other, hate seeing when people can't do the some in front of different crowds.
6) who doesn't care about those things some of use care about at least 1 or 2 of those.
7) I am VERY loyal, just depends who the person is not the sign ;)
8) soooo wrong, dead wrong to the point it's actually funny.
Good night sweet dreams!

[Lesbobutch818]

I made my points above.

Have a good sleep. And a great breakfast in the morning.

[Ozanne]

And now the Libras will be out in full force to defend... but not until they've carefully weighed out what exactly it is they want to say about this...
:)

[Lesbobutch818]

Sounds about right

[SexyTexas]

I'm an Aquarius and Libras are suppose to be our soulmates. Oddly, I have never dated or been attracted to one. This list could be why, I found everything listed annoying and avoid people with these characteristics. Best boyfriend so far has been a Cancer. Shows you how unaccurate the zodiac can be :)

[Lesbobutch818]

The zodiac chart is only one aspect of astrology it is our sh signs. People can get more information if they know their birth chart. Plus, people learn how make things work and to get along and gain respect for one another. Astrology is a vast are of study, and here for the majority I didn't get to in depth with other aspect of astrology like moon signs and rising signs. But if you feel like astrology is hog wash bullshit then you have right to your oppion.

[SexyTexas]

I know about birth charts & all that. I'm Sun Aquarius Libra Rising & Moon in Aries, but this is just for fun. I don't rely on astrology for dating.

What is your sign?

[findingdreamland]

I do not want to generalize people just because of the sign. But you have some point here.
My experience is that I met libra women which are really cool; i met libra men which are really cool as a friend but sucks as a boyfriend.
Libra people are sweet generally. It depends on how they are raised , their family etc.

[Trini-Rose]

Amm I'm a Libra.. Most of what you said in this post us true..
But when we find love we are faithful.. We make a lot of friends yes its true but sometimes we can be loners..
Yes we are manipulative people but for the right reasons..
We love the better things in life, both male and female alike.
So do more research and stop talking about things that you don't know.. thank you... god dammit !!!

[Lesbobutch818]

You use agreed with the genere points of my post, but gave excuses why in your mind you think it okay be manipulative and cereal dater and materialist. Sounds like a libra response.

[Trini-Rose]

Dealing the details in your post is true, but not all of them... librans are very good people.. we do anything for anyone..
You really need to do a lot more research about... Librans like myself.. if you don't like September people say it don't hide behind your post and be rude... Christ in heaven help the haters please... amen ;)

[jacquesvol]

in my opinion this will break the meter.
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[Trini-Rose]

Ha ha ha ha... that picture is funny lol lol

[abundantlyrich]

I agree with some of it but i don't come into contact with them most of the time. Only on the internet.

Yes they are mind players, they do manipulate here and there, they are social life machines, they are romantic but they also can be nasty.

[Lesbobutch818]

Are you into astrology? How did you find there signs?

[abundantlyrich]

Yes. They told me.

[LittleSally]

I hate Libras. More females than males... I never could stand them for long periods of time - they're energy vampires!

I don't agree with the indecisiveness, though. And I've known a lot of them - and ditched them.

[SilenRose]

I'm a Libra and most of these don't apply to me. What's your sign?

[Lesbobutch818]

Which ones do and don't apply to you?

Are you upset or angry with my post?

[SilenRose]

Indecisive: I can be indecisive at times but who isn't? When it's an important decision I like to weigh my options and research it if time allows me too.

Manipulative: Nope

Pleaser/not firm: I'm not a pleaser but I do act as a mediator for my group. I listen to both sides but I do have my own opinion and I normally have the final say.

Self-righteous thinking: WTF

Mask: People come to me to vent because i'm easy to talk to and don't judge. I do share the things they tell me with my mom because so many secrets do weigh you down.

Dating: I have zero tolerance for cheaters and I would never become what I hate. I've learned to listen to my first hunches and not let the "honeymoon phase" blind me to what I'll face later on with a guy. For example I can't stand flaky people. I don't care how much I like you in the beginning. If you can't stick to a plan in the beginning stage of the dating period then I'm gone.

[SilenRose]

Materialistic: I'll admit I want to have the better things in life. I don't look down on those who don't, but I won't be with someone who weighs me down.

Master Manipulators: Um, no. Also why was manipulation listed twice

Your post didn't upset me and I know you wrote "this is not to say all Libras are this way and posses these qualities" but it felt like an unfair generalization. I don't know what sign you are but my pairs are Sagittarius and Aries. I haven't run into any Aries but the Sagi's don't work out but I haven't lumped them all into a boat as useless.

[Lesbobutch818]

It made me laugh in a good way when you responded to and said self righteous wtf that was funny. This post was not an attack on libra's. This post was just my personal experience with some libra's and how some of the traits can manifest in a problematic way. maybe your a libra who manifest the great and good qualities of this sun sign. But I do not know you. So I hope you didn't take any of these things personal. I was speaking generally and not to anyone in paticualr.

[SilenRose]

Well sorry to hear about your bad experiences with Libra's. We aren't all bad and no I didn't take it personal since it doesn't really apply to me.

[Lesbobutch818]

Thank you for your repsonse and oppion @SilnenRose

[SilenRose]

Welcome. :)

[Lesbobutch818]

😀😀😀😀 let the good times roll

[Amy10223]

I agree with some--but I have a reason for them. I agree with you that they do not apply to me.

[Amy10223]

Yes, I agree with you 100%, SilenRose.

[Starfishlover]

My mum is a libra (I am a leo). She is so cute. SHe does manipulate me and it works because she is so adorable.

[Lesbobutch818]

I don't know what to say.

[Starfishlover]

What starsign are you?

[Trini-Rose]

Tell me even when your mom manipulates you... does she apologize?

[Octavion]

So can you explain the actual logic behind astrology? Because everything people have told me trying to defend it has been B. S.

[Lesbobutch818]

What is logic any way?

It is seen from a diffrent perspective every culture.

[SonOfSun]

Logic is really more a science of the way in which we reason that something is valid. We tend to rely on our (semi) rational minds, evidence and physical experiences to determine if something is logical. Please @Lesbobutch818 enlighten both @Octavion and myself on the logic and rationale behind Astrology.

[Phoenix98]

I think the problem is some people believe far to much into "star signs".

[Lesbobutch818]

You think that's a problem. This is my reality. And that opinion is yours.

[Phoenix98]

It's a fact star signs are a bunch of nonsense, I mean don't get me wrong they are fun and cool to read about, and there is quite a bit of history behind them but you shouldn't take them literally.

[Lesbobutch818]

And I shouldn't take you repsonse seriously. By you telling me this will not convince me. But oddly enough this conversation is mildly entertaining.

[Phoenix98]

That doesn't surprise me.

[Lesbobutch818]

You initiated the conversation. But good for some people require predictability. Glad I could provide it.

[Trini-Rose]

Were you ever angry with a libran person in the past? Some how I think you were..
We are nice people just don't piss us off ;)

[Phoenix98]

No I just don't believe in all this astrology star sign stuff, its as simple as that.

[Hephaestus]

do you genuinely believe in this stuff?
just curious

[Lesbobutch818]

I don't do nothing I don't believe

[Hephaestus]

You don't believe in that stuff?

[Bards]

Yeah my best friend was one and she fucked me over. It's crazy that this all applies to her. It's too accurate. -_-

[YourFutureEx]

The problem with Libras: They believe in astrology.

[sham100]

I agree with you!

[Lesbobutch818]

☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[RainbowFanGirl]

You should write these about all the signs.

[Johnnyjay]

yea wonder why she picked just 1 could say good things and bad about any one

[Trini-Rose]

True.. the most evil star signs are Aries hate them 100% and my granny is one.. she pisses me off most of the time lol

[RainbowFanGirl]

Oh lol. I'm a Sagittarius :)