Who is the winner in this relationship: The gold digger or the sugar daddy?

[Unit1]

The gold digger

The sugar daddy

They're both winners

None

[justathotty]

I would say the gold digger since what the gold digger is usually after can be handed to her (a. k. a. money or just buying nice luxury stuff) but the daddy can't get what he wants, that being love/sincere attraction. Unless the daddy is just looking for someone to show off (say, someone "out of his league" to show off to others, to show how even pretty girls want him = to show he has some dough) then the gold digger is strictly speaking the only winner, though her position is more vulnerable than the daddy's, as he can kick her out with nothing left (unless there's some marriage/heritage involved).

[CubsterShura]

Since they both use each other, both win.

But in the end, both lose. I know a couple like that and they got divorced recently. You can't expect long term love in these relationships.

[loveslongnails]

Sugar daddy/ Sugar baby relationships are not about love, they're about mutual satisfaction. They can last as long as the money lasts and the supplier of the money doesn't get tired of who it's going to and seek some different candy. :)

[CubsterShura]

The couple that I know got divorced because they had issues with their physical relationship. At least we now know that sex is still most important no matter what!

[Unit1]

They actually got married for that? Damn, i don't even know what to say at this point.

[CubsterShura]

No no, it's like she married him cause he was rich, and he married her cause she was hot. Overtime they faced reality and divorced.

[Unit1]

So they did.

[Logorithim]

Seems to me the sugar daddy could get a girlfriend without having to be a sugar daddy, so he is the loser here (not that he cares, of course).

[Logorithim]

Thanks for the MHO

[HereIbe]

Sugar Daddy can always buy another stupid girl who has no self-esteem whenever he gets tired of his current toy.

[Allie_Oops]

Both because they both have what they want lol.

[NearlyNapping]

Maybe it's a matter of definitions. To me a gold digger means she is using the guy, and the only reason she's with him is for his money. A sugar daddy is more voluntary. He's with her because he likes her, and buys her things for the same reason. A gold digger would break it off in no time if the gold stopped flowing. So it's pretty one sided.

Just because a guy is a sugar daddy, doesn't mean the girl is a gold digger or user. She could stay with the guy even if he went flat broke.

So the bottom line is that the gold digger comes out ahead, except in the case where the guy knows what it's all about, and goes along with it. In that case it's even.

[MlleCake]

Many of these relationships are referred to as "mutually beneficial", which means both partners are getting something they want from the experience. There is no winner or loser. If both people are happy with the arrangement, what does my opinion matter anyway?

[infp_libra_78]

Do you really mean the woman is only looking for money? And the man just wants eye candy? Or is the girl looking for a lot of security which for many is money (sadly), and the man wants a girl who can take care of herself so that she can take care of others (kids)

If the selfish types, then it depends on whether the man is aware of it. If so, all good. If not, woman wins

[GuyAtEdge]

It's an alliance of convenience, not based on the strength of love. Utility-wise life would be fine, but the inner satisfaction wouldn't be there.. chances are either of the two would look for gratification outside of the alliance. It's a choice. From my perspective, none win.

[loveslongnails]

Clarification here --- "gold diggers" usually want a permanent relationship and they seek out men who can financially keep up with their desires. A "sugar daddy" USUALLY just wants a convenient arrangement where he offers financial benefits in return for sexual gratification and attention. He's not usually in it for a typical "relationship", so his counterpart would be a "sugar baby", NOT a "gold digger".

[ScottSD]

Exactly right, semantics matter when discussing this lifestyle. However in real life, many gold diggers (and even escorts) present themselves as sugar babies, some even think that's what it's supposed to be.

[OfDeath]

The gold digger. The sugar daddy is powerless without the money.

I've witnessed a rich friend of mine in one of these relationships too.
The woman is treating him like shit. He will have to buy her jewelry and handbags and shit on a regular basis if he wants sex.

[Benedek38]

Just putting it out there, that's because your buddy doesn't understand how to make her work for the money. He messed up by shifting the power balance in her favour by being too generous and lenient.

[OfDeath]

@Benedek38 the gold digger will easily find another money pig if they aren't getting their way.

[Benedek38]

Exactly. And your friend will easily find another golddigger if he wants to. One that is more accepting of her situation.
If two strong personalities collide, either one of them breaks, or the collision has to be elliminated. But if you never actually try to collide with the other person, it will always be you who breaks.

[OfDeath]

@Benedek38 You don't know

[Anonymous]

The sugar daddy, he can force the girl doing nearly all he want by promising her money.
The gold digger is basically a slave who get mistreated in exchange of a bit of money (their job are more tiring and annoying than the one of a whore and they earn less than them).

[ScottSD]

It all comes down to how you objectify human relationships (or just sex) and how good at dissociating you are when doing this solely for money with no attraction or care for your sugar partner.

[Miss_missy77]

Technically it's the sugar daddy. Sugar daddies are what empower sugar babies to be what they are. Except, there will always be more gold diggers then there are rich sugar daddies willing to pay for. #economics?

[ScottSD]

That's right, a sugar baby is more easily replaced than a sugar daddy. For most girls who are not sex workers, it's a one time luck.

[ScottSD]

Actually I've been a SD to a young woman. At first it was mutually beneficial. We both had a vanilla partner. Except I was upfront and she was not. At this point it became mutually exploitative and not long after it crashed and burned, because she did not uphold her part of the arrangement, that was exclusive. In retrospect, we both lost. Her she lost the income and someone who cared for her emotionally as well. I lost a good friend (or so I thought) and some money, which I consider bad investment afterwards. The morale of the story is mutually beneficial is not the same as mutually exploitative. Don't do this is you don't care for the other person or you are not attracted to him, or your mental health will take a serious blow.

[ItalianGuy777]

Neither they are both pathetic in their own way the guy for giving a whore money to get laid and in some cases he is not even getting laid and the girl for well you know just being a whore for money and will probably end up a crackhead living on the streets if she is willing to sell her body

[ichighost]

I think the sugar daddy is the winner but it also depends on their situation. Because if you don't want to have sex and you're having sex you don't feel good afterwards even if you got a good amount of money.

[James_R]

Speaking from experience; neither win anything more than a superficial arrangement. If that's what you want, you win, if you want a lasting love relationship you'll never find it in those situations.

[katkittie55]

Speaking from experience it can work in a variety of ways. The good situations, both win. Sometimes there are times when it's an imbalance

[Anonymous]

Both get what they wanted from the beggining at the end.
The gold digger the money and the sugar daddy the attention and "love".

[Anonymous]

If they both know what they're signing up for, then both because those relationships don't ever workout for however long they are intended to, if that mutual understanding of what it is, isn't there. The same thing goes for F-buddies; same concept.

[Lance1965]

Both are getting what they wanted but it is costing the sugar daddy so I guess he is the loser in the situation unless he is so wealthy he just doesn't care.

[ScottSD]

We do this with disposable income, so we put this in the same expense category as entertainment or leisure.

[littlepig2002]

It depends greatly on what the goal of the relationship is. You failed to specify the goal.

[Unit1]

The goal is regardless. We are taking a look not specifically but generally.

You failed to bring up an example. Right back at you.

[ATuairiscean]

I say none - I don't see it as a healthy arrangement for either

[windknowsmyname]

well if she's relying on him for a source of income. the winner is the guy.

[A-man-22]

Gold digger, they don't have to work to get money and they can relax in a quality home and look pretty while their spouse works and earns the money.

[Danxsarah]

Both of them especially if they understand that lifestyle I know a couple they been sugars for years and properly one of the most healthy relationships I've ever seen

[Didi1337]

They both get what they want, aslong as they both accept it who cares? If they are happy, let them be.

[Rangers]

"Gold digger"? You mean "whore"? The whore obviously wins

[AcidT0y]

Well if they both got what they wanted then I guess everybody wins

[WhoDatGuy]

It's a mutually beneficial scenario. Hope I'm smashing youngins when I'm old 😂😂

[Nadim171]

Both get what they wanted. But that's not love that's more like a deal...
She takes his money he takes her body...

[catmandoes]

Always like the Jimmy Carr joke, you know she only dates you because you are rich "yeah, but I am rich"

[lordgrifis]

I think both wins, because both reach their objectives.

[TroyTrellman]

The Gold Digger. The sugar daddy could pay call girls less and get more action.

[Pamina]

Both, it's a symbiosis.

[Gottabsavagee]

They both get what they want so it’s a win win.

[kingofthellamas]

The customer is king.

[TacosRAwesome]

The one getting more of what they want.

[Partywithtom]

Depends how you define winner.

[Iamagoodguy]

Depends did he know she was a gold digger

[athena223]

Definitely the gold digger

[Anonymous]

The sugar daddy wins: sugar babies feel whorish

[6942Dom]

Having been a sugar daddy once. It's both.

[anametouse]

No one wins

[paolalovesu]

The baby (: aka meh

[Muhammad1999]

The gold daddy